Oh no, not even close. Let me speed up the process for you
>God has already been defeated. The low IQ masses are ready to vote away all religion, we have 100 years tops >Consent laws were an attack on the west. We should be able to marry 13-14 year old girls, and not even think twice about it >Women were objectively never meant to have any power. We were born into a world that was already ruined by women with way too much power that they should have never had >pretty good chance that the earth is flat, and space isn't real. If that's too much for you too stomach, then at least understand that evolution doesn't disprove creation, and that all of Darwins work was taken out of context by nutty luciferian elites. >there is absolutely no chance we will turn any of this around without world war. >most of your friends and family are trash low IQ air breathers who will never understand anything close to reality >the fact that you are here, and were able to stomach the grand narrative of Jow Forums means that literally centuries worth of conditioning and brainwashing wasn't enough to kill your spirit
Basically Jow Forums, if you are redpilled, then you are one of the not so lucky few who get's to be consciously aware of the fact that the world has been taken over by evil elites who hate god, and want to turn all of us into slaves. Alex Jones version of the story is a bit off, but he is arguably telling the truth.
We are absolutely fucked, and I highly doubt Jow Forums will be able to do anything about it. Ever.
Look up Southern Israelite. If you REALLY think that you are red pilled, look him up, hear out all of his best arguments, read his books, and decide for yourself whether or not the guy is nuts. Just imagine for a second that the earth IS flat, and space isn't real. Why would they want to lie about that? Because they wanted to create fake evidence against God. IF the earth is flat, then it means that NASA is a giant LARP, where we give them 40 BILLION dollars a year to sink us deeper and deeper into propaganda, and enslavement.
I went down the rabbit hole anons, not everyone ends up in the same spot.... but I'll tell your where I ended up.
The bible is FUCKING REAL, and we have been under luciferian control on and off since 1776. They have falsified evidence against god, and they have created an artificial paradigm that will slowly guide us to a Tabla Rasa (blank slate). New begginings without Christian morals.
They don't want future generations to even know that the bible ever existed. Also flat earth means that there is secret uncharted land that the elites are doing fuck knows what with.
Black pill = nihilism = jew propaganda to make you surrender your shekels
Justin Thompson
So the 1000 year reign of Lucifer has begun up until Christ comes back...
Ethan Parker
Ok this should be fun. Prove to me that space is real.
>pro tip, unless you have been there, you are a speculating faggot
It's like a big joke that they play on us. They mock us for believing in what we can't see, but then they force us to believe in their lie that we can't see.
Either you have been to space, or you have no argument for it's existence.
Gavin Bennett
How feminine is your penis?
Colton Bell
If the earth is flat then how does gravity work and the sun stay suspended and how the fuck isn't the fucking whole earth lit up at the same time you stupid fuck. Holy shit. I am religious and you make me feel stupid for believing in the same God as you. How fucking dense are you?
simple physics please see If the earth is flat and the sun is always shining on part of the earth, what obfuscates the sun at sunset?
Benjamin Powell
Answer
Charles Russell
>We are absolutely fucked, and I highly doubt Jow Forums will be able to do anything about it. Ever.
There's a good chance this is true.
But I don't care.
If you're a white man, your lot in life is to strive. To rage against the world and bring light and life to the dark corners of reality, to bring humanity kicking and screaming to civilization. Or die trying.
The upside of this blackpill, though, is that if everyone else is that dumb, then working together creatively and for the benefit of our people, we still have a chance, however small, to reverse it.
David Nguyen
sooooooo..... you've been to space then? You must have missed when I asked you the first time..
Grayson Cook
This is a bait thread, move on
David Allen
And geometrically speaking you can prove it without going to space, though there are pictures from up there which are not required to demonstrate you are being a jew.
You should feel stupid for believing in a magic sky monster.
Jose Bailey
Goth as fuck.
Leo Hughes
From the religious Christian perspective then this is all going according too plan, and Gods will and he will ultimately bring judgement on the evil of this world. Things just need too get a whole lot worse first.
Charles Taylor
Brap posting is my favorite meme in the past 2 years by far. Even if you’re serious it’s a meme in my eyes.
Brody Scott
read parmenides, read about monism, read pic related
Shit comes out of there, user. Not ice cream, not yogurt, not cotton candy. SHIT
Ethan Garcia
But.... you haven't been there. Not sure why you won't just answer the question. So basically you believe in a sky daddy that you haven't seen based off of some books that people wrote? (literally the exact same argument atheists make against the bible)
see My monism allows me to view the whole as a gestalt which is what I believe to be God. There is the same evidence either way for or against theism which is none. It is a choice and my understanding of reality allows me to believe and I also choose to believe.
Anyway, this is a troll thread and I have already fed you enough.
Sorry, I assumed you were a Christian assuming OP was a Christian.
Isaiah Ross
>God has already been defeated. Stopped right there, clearly you are tragically unaware of God.
Kayden Miller
>the world is flat
I've been skydiving and on top of mountains which I hike for amusement. The horizon is a curve, and the world is not flat.
Ayden Moore
Well I guess you will have no problem debating Southern Israelite then. I mean he has never lost a debate yet, and mainstream theologists like Jay Dyer are literally shitting in their pants trying to avoid him and trying to keep people from knowing that he exists. Besides, you are a neo-platonist and just don't even realize it.
>muh the one is god
So my dick is god? My cat is god? Pornography is god? Weeewwwwwwwww
>muh went hiking and saw muh the curve Literally prove it
Honestly guys, I'm just a neutral earther. I will never believe in space until I see it. That's what atheists do right? "Hmphh! If god is real then he should strike me down right now! HAH! HERE I AM! NO GOD!"
I mean literal scientists say shit like that...... so here I am, a scientist. If space is real, then I will see it in my lifetime. All NASA would have to do is fake space footage, which Kubrick mastered a long ass time ago.
If it makes you feel better, just pretend I didn't say anything about flat earth.
To an extent I am. It is the faith of my forefathers, it is the faith that brought Europe to the pinnacle of civilization. I do not like modern "nice guy" christianity. I like the jews are "of the synagogue of satan" Jesus who chased the merchants from the temple with a bullwhip. I hate that every time I go to church I hear some sap talk about "boo hoo we're so broken pls fix us." It infuriates me. The church has allowed itself to become weak. There needs to be a reformation again. As long as christians keep "turning the other cheek" (which is totally misinterpreted, it means make people treat you as an equal, in roman slapping culture terms) they will continue to watch their families and countries decay around them. Jesus had much to teach, but even he was violent when the situation arose. We need more of that, otherwise christianity will die. IMO it's been perverted by jews since the holohoax. Prior to that time I doubt many people called much Judeo-Christian.
Plato called Parmenides a sophist, you have no idea what you are talking about. Platonic forms and abstractions are not part of my philosophy. Monism is not neoplatonism. Parmenides was the father of ontology for a reason.
Gabriel Evans
Ok. So if I can even get you to hesitate for a second thinking about flat earth or space..... then it shouldn't be hard for you to understand that Evolution really doesn't disprove god or creationism. Obviously genetic selection, natural selection, fitness, bottle necking, yada yada, that kind of evolution is real, but as far as people evolving from monkeys that evolved from fish.... it's seriously just a theory that has been talked up for centuries, they only used philosophical logic and reasoning to create that theory, and they don't want to admit it. So evolution is not that hard to debunk, flat earth and no space I honestly might not even believe myself.... but here is an important one.
The earth probobly isn't billions of years old. Dinosaurs are exaggerated, and carbon dating is bullshit.
just fyi this is a troll thread, flat earth should have tipped you off
Charles Moore
So I"m looking at this and this . The picture says that god is everything and nothing. You said that the whole is a gestalt that you believe to be god. I'm just going off of what you said. It doesn't really matter if Plato called him a sophist or not. I'm a Christian in the sense that I believe god was as explained in the bible. A single entity that communicated with people long ago. I don't flat out deny the transcendence of God, but I do believe that God is an individual of sorts. God laid down laws, and commanded the original man on how to live.... that doesn't sound like "everything, and nothing" to me. That's some pantheistic, taoist, neo-platonist kind of shit.... all of those beliefs are similar. Any way, I'm not shitting on what you believe, I can see you have put some thought into your beliefs, but I've put a great deal into mine as well. At the very least the point I'm trying to make is that the God described in the OT and NT all of the bible is not a pantheistic everything and nothing all at once god.
Not really dude, I"m handing you your ass here . You can't say you are a Christian if you believe in a pantheist god. Learn real theology
Luis Russell
>believe in space when you see it you can't see microwaves but they still cook your food, or is that some sort of Jewish fire magic to you? Also does it bother you that space is supposed to be empty and is thus invisible?
>Literally prove it Literally proves you've never hiked a mountain or even participated in a sport, for that matter.
>Flat earth Stop making actual blackpilled people like me look bad. Your retarded bullshit contradicts everything including itself and is designed by the Jews to make conspiracists look bad by association but you're too stupid of a gullible fuck to even realize you're playing to (((their))) tune
Wake. The fuck. Up.
Camden Collins
>>God has already been defeated Actually believing this
When He returns the wicked will be annihilated at the brightness of His coming. Feel no fear
Austin Gonzalez
>you can't see microwaves false analogy >proves I've never hiked a mountain not really. I have hiked plenty of mountains >no sports for that matter Oooooo sick burn >Hurr durr I"m really black pilled and you aren't Nah, you are a fag, and people are laughing at you right now. Guarantee it >retarded bullshit contradicts everything including itself and is designed by the jews to make conspiracists look bad That is a statement, not an argument. Can't wait for you to prove all of that. >stupid gullible fuck to realize k
I don't think the language used in the bible is philosophically rigorous enough for me. I am a chemistry person. My worldview is materialistic. God as a character in a book tells me nothing about what God actually is. And you won't read Parmenides so allow me to clarify that one of his criteria is that it EXISTS, so God or the one is EVERYTHING not nothing.
God is he "in whom we live and move and have our being" (Book of Acts 17.28) So I think monism might have some backup there. Another thought experiment is: how can the triumvirate work without polytheism? or How can God be separate from his son who also states that he is "I AM" without polytheism?
Xavier Miller
But Parmenides is just some mortal man with an opinion, what gives his words authority? The Bible is the word of god, and if you don't believe that, you aren't a Christian. That's fine, you don't have to be, just don't act like the Christian god is the ancient wankings of some largely forgotten philosopher.
>Don't like bible language >not good enough for you >muh I'm a chemist materialist
You couldn't do a high school algebra problem to save your life, and you expect people to believe the regurgitated bullshit you hand out on flat earth?
Come back to me when you realize the same math and science and technology that allows you to shitpost to anyone across the world instantly is also the same math science and technology that proves the Earth is round, not flat. If it works to allow you to shitpost, why would it be a lie when it comes to the planet? Math is objective, it doesn't have an agenda. It won't not apply to planets and apply to wifi signals. It applies across all. Either the earth is flat and all modern technology is literal mass delusion that doesn't really exist, or the Earth is round and modern technology exists to let me call your retarded bullshit out from thousands of miles away, instantly. All or nothing, cuck. Internet cant work if the Earth is flat. Magnetism can't work if the Earth is flat. Compasses wouldn't work if it was flat.
William Lewis
Can we get a fundraiser going to strap OP to a rocket and launch him into the air at 2x escape velocity with all the parachutes etc. that he would need for a safe landing if space is, in fact, not real?
>you couldn't do high school algebra I actually just got a B+ in math 181 which is calculus..... so I guess making up shit isn't going to help your non-arguments suck less >same math and science Muh math n science and shit! Dude you aren't even saying anything. Math and science proves that the earth is round? Ugh... can you elaborate on that a little please? LMAO >if you can use the internet, then obviously the world is round what? >Muh Magnetism and Compasses get a compass that can lead you to a basic logic course buddy.
SO to summarize
>muh hurr durr the earth is round because you can't do algebra (literal babies first math) n science n shit
The bible is a collection of stories written down many years after most events occurred. I guess I am not a Christian by your interpretation, though, I don't believe you are as smart as you think you are.
again, as I have said, troll thread
Good sir, stop wasting your time. This is a troll thread. If this chain doesn't demonstrate this individual's lack of honesty, I do not know what will. He's arguing like a jew, rather than approaching an argument he is stating his own criteria for what constitutes proof and changes the subject when he has been shown to be a fool. I then argued religion and now he is telling me what I believe and how I am not what I say I am because I believe something he doesn't.
So basically you admit that you were wrong, but you are hanging onto the idea that this is a troll thread because you are butt hurt that you lost? Who cares what you think the bible is? Go away, lmao
>arguing like jew lmao >changes subject no... you said you were a Christian, and I proved that you aren't. You are just crying
>t. someone who is butt hurt, embarrassed, and on damage control
literally just sage this guys. He's either trolling or extremely autistic and beyond help.
Landon Phillips
I am laughing that you think I am not a Christian and that you perceive yourself to be the authority on the subject. All you do make stupid claims and back up your arguments with insults. At one point you even suggested I debate someone else (apparently you aren't capable of reasoned discussion).
You're either quite young or quite stupid. Do you truly believe everyone else to be as insecure as you, able to be dissuaded from your beliefs by some fool on an anonymous imageboard?
>B+ in calculus Confirmed for shitskin, also nice lie kiddo.
>you're like, not even saying anything, dude. It's like, not like you can do simple math formulas to figure out the area of spheres and apply that formula to the Earth or anything. Dude, it's not like anyone has gone around the planet or into space or the upper atmosphere or anything to do calculations bro those are all lies man, that math is fake dude
The internet only works via satellite and wireless connections transmitting data to wired centers that transfer that data along wired lines to houses and individual computers. If there aren't satellites cuz the Earth is flat, there is no way a plane 30k feet in the air can get a wifi signal as it flies across the ocean, moron. Your retarded arguments don't suffice here, there's nothing. I always either get, "wireless signals have a limited length so to get worldwide internet they have undersea cables" and then when I ask how a plane gets wifi in the air over the ocean, they'll say antennas ontop of buildings many miles away (because you're in the middle of the fucking ocean) are beaming wifi all those miles to the plane in motion. If you can do that, why do you need undersea cables to transmit? Just create a global network of giant antenna towers. Oh wait, because we use satellites orbiting the oblate spheroid of Earth to bounce signals.
As for compasses and magnetic fields, you need a spheroid magnetic field to mimic what we see in a compass. A magnetic field coming from a cube or cone or other shape is different and interacts differently.
You're a bad, idiot troll and everyone knows it. Read the replies, idiot.
Brody Martin
Dude I humiliated you..... You are trying to say you are a Christian, and you believe some pantheistic dog shit. I was saying go debate Southern Israelite about flat earth, he will embarrass you even worse than I did. You are just crying now, the argument is over.
>Basically Jow Forums, if you are redpilled, then you are one of the not so lucky few who get's to be consciously aware of the fact that the world has been taken over by evil elites
I thought countries with the lowest iqs are the most religious? Eg: South America, India, African countries
Evan Green
Founding fathers were Christians sprinkled with a few Masons, Illuminists, and revisionists (heretics). This country was not founded by atheists, the most significant inventions where not created by atheists. For the majority of History, western civilization was predominantly white Christians. Only recently has that started to change (since WW2). Yes now we live in a time with a decent amount of high IQ atheists (it's pretty fucking sad).
Finding the Christian truth of the world isn't always the result of a high IQ man using his own logic and reasoning all day in a room by himself. By today's standards, and paradigm, the story of God in the bible is irrational, contradictory, basically for it to be true you have to accept that God is able to do things that extend beyond what we would consider reasonable. God is transcendent. To what level he is transcendent is arguable, but basically he intervened a couple different times throughout history, and the Bible accounts for those instances. Logic and reason alone will not save you.
>revisionists (heretics) Just wanted to clear up what I meant by that. I'm leaning toward a more Protestant/Baptist side of Christianity, so I didn't mean that the reformation was heresy. If you ask me, if you are a Christian of any kind then you are close enough (no comment on mormons and Jehova's witnesses........probobly not brah)