Hi lads. I was wondering how best to re-design Natsoc general to make it more appealing and useful. Here is the current general, please offer constructive criticism:
/nsg/ - Natsoc General ϟϟ The Last Glowing Ember of Classic Jow Forums ϟϟ
Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, Anti-Communism, the Aryan Ideal, Traditionalism, Racial Nationalism, and Racial Identity Movements.
We should be studying propaganda to reach normies. Obviously make it non violent and peaceful. Protection and love for your own race whithout hating others while also encouraging other races to do the same. The swastika and the term national socialism have been too demonized by the media so I would recommend the creation of a new movement with a new name while taking some of the good ideas national sociaism had. I've been thinking a nationalist union or alliance in which races protect each other rights of independence and autonomy from cultural, ethnic and racial globalization. That way nationalists from different races support each other which would make sure the right to exist on independence from other races. If white natinalists, black nationalists and asian nationalists star working together, the jews are finished and the races saved. It's a win win situation for all.
Jayden Martinez
what are these threads all about? is it about german supremacy or """""""""""""""""""white"""""""""""""" supremacy?
Caleb Hughes
>The swastika and the term national socialism have been too demonized by the media so I would recommend the creation of a new movement There are a lot of problems with this thinking, but overall, its the wrong approach to be think anything pro-white will ever be accepted by anti-whites. In order to undo this kind of conditioning, we are going to have to start by offending normies somehow. There's absolutely no other way. Anything you change the name to will be called "Nazi' by the jews, so you might as well get comfortable with not apologizing and having supportive things to say about Natsoc.
>How to improve /nsg/ Avoid posting a thousand links in the first post that should be as short as possible.
Ian Kelly
>avoid posting 1000 links its down to 20
Benjamin Wood
im very concerned about these threads considering theres no links to learn german and basics of the german culture in the OP.
Isnt this the NSDAP general?
Owen Scott
I concur with both points, and I believe using both is our best option. We should work on two fronts, one being outspoken, yet still respectful. The other should act as we have in the past: "it's okay to be white" flyers on walls and the like.
Carson Wood
Shouldnt it be, "its okay to be german"?
Eli Gonzalez
>when this is the only general thread worth viewing on this board anymore
Joshua Hill
I have been making my own efforts to learn the language, there are some helpful links on Jow Forums. Here are some
Generally, I agree with using updated optics and symbols, not trying to replicate the original movement. NMR is a good example (pic related). But if the ideas of the "new" movement are the same, if you are still national socialist, there's no use pretending you arent. We should be brave enough to tell people that what they've heard is wrong.
There used to be a section on language, but then people started speaking in German in the general, and that's against the rules. Mods get mad at people not using English
national socialism is the only ideology that makes sense for the white race. it's the only thing that stops kikes infiltrating governments and education institutions and makes our people the most prosperous and happy. we really need a way to make national socialism appeal to the purple pilled civnats while keeping out the ZOG jewllytype-type caricature villains.
Pan europeanism is a goal, not just German. Obviously it would be a good goal to strive towards, but it is relatively un-realistic at the moment. Also, whilst Germans are a force in Europe, America is not quite the same. While whites are becoming a minority, the Germans are a minority (albeit large) within that group. It is better to focus on the broader European group.
Wyatt Morgan
one small improvement you can make if i may suggest is to add some information or links on -eating healthy (paleo) -living healthy (calisthenics and lifting) -how to behave (confidence not arrogance, dominant not an asshole) -debate and discuss in a sensible fashion to those questioning your beliefs
Tyler Smith
can someone post that list of books that usually gets posted here? Has books like The Uniqueness of Western Civilization and Comparative Mythology. Need to find more indo-european related books to read that aren't garbage like a lot of the kosher shit STJ recommends.
Tyler Parker
Be careful not to say "pan european", it has negative connotations because its been used by globalist ideologies. Besides, natsocs support ethno nationalism, but we are pan-Aryan solidarists. I know it sounds like a silly thing to worry about, but "pan-European" has taken on associations we wouldn't want
When you talk about how whites invent everything youre referring to Germans, not poles or hungarians or bulgarians or slavs or Boers or white non german americans even.
The Germans are the ones who held you """whites""" up. When all the shitskins are gone, we have to talk about this.
James Perry
this. when i hear the word "pan-european" i automatically think of things like European Jewnion.
Ryan Green
If it has, I haven't heard them. However, I understand and I will refrain from using the term In the future.
David Mitchell
remove the meme flag if you want to be taken seriously, nothing you're saying makes a lot of sense so far
Nolan Nguyen
yeah technically Kalergi was a "pan european", like the EU is "pan european". so while i get what you mean by it, not everyone would
Christian Torres
I'm specifically looking for non-kosher books on Indo-Europeans and their history and traditions. I don't think that paste has anything on it.
i know for sure 'The Uniqueness of Western Civilization' is in there
Henry Stewart
>I was wondering how best to re-design Natsoc general to make it more appealing and useful. Stop milking the dried up cock of the 1930s and start talking about modernizing NatSoc theory for the modern world. If you're wondering why people aren't joining up, it's not because of Jewish agitprop. It's because nobody can see what the benefits will be in their own lives and you all have not made that case for them. You have to *sell* National Socialism, not just say >IT'S AWESOME CUM ON U GUUISE!
Daniel Cook
Understandable, however for now the 14 words suffice. Stop with the meme flag you degenerate.
Connor Moore
White americans need the help of exiled german physicists to develop the nuclear bomb. White americans cant do jack shit without the help of those Germans people who were born in Germany and spoke the German language.
Connor Foster
i think there's equal value in promoting modern versions of natsoc as well as teaching people about the original
Stop with the fucking claim that all whites are responsible of modern civilization. Deutschland Uber Alles isn't a meme. German supremacy or bust you dumb deluded mongrel.
Bentley Campbell
see here kike your divide and conquer tactic has no power here JIDF
Dylan Rodriguez
Show your flag, you fag.
Aiden Nelson
he can't, the vpn at the JIDF headquarters in israel is down
move /nsg/ to kraut/pol/ At least you mutt shits can do something in your pathetic lives to revive german nationalism. And probably learn why the German race is so respected and successful in the first place.
Caleb Green
We know why. It isn’t from hiding behind false pretenses.
Jacob Walker
Oh my God, stop saying folk, it is so fucking cringe worthy. Volk is simply German for people. This level of LARPing is simply not okay.
Grayson Gutierrez
>the German race There is no "German race" Moishe, not even the NSDAP thought there was. German is an ethnic category. Aryan is a racial category. Lurk moar, your shilling is shit-tier.
i hardly visit now but i love your dedication. include a daily talking point or topics perhaps. focus more on long debated and time honored views instead of contemporary news references that are up in the air and emotional. keep record of topics that went before if you can, and link to archives. revisit topics as needed depending on the popularity or shilling of each, not everything will be respected the first time through. keep up the good work.
Luke Martinez
These kids are the degenerates people told you about. "As long I do hitler salutes and wear swastikas i should be as successful as those german guys."
The piece of lazy shitkids thats no different than the niggers they hate. Like those skinhead russians and poles. Pathetic pieces of walking subhuman shit.
Juan Harris
thanks fren, will try to make some versions based on specific topics
Anthony Davis
Stop being so fucking cringy and abusing the use of the swastika so much.
its usually one faggot on a VPN talking to himself
Isaac Anderson
first thing to do is stop denying the holocaust. it is retarded. it makes you look retarded. it is unnecessary.
if nat soc is about ethno state nationalism and has deep racist roots, then why deny that? you want people to think it is good. you want people to think that Hitler was justified.
saying he was incompetent and couldn't kill jews, after years of saying he would like to, is just stupid. it happened. get over it. saying it didn't turns normies off. be proud, or be ashamed, but stop pretending it didn't happen. grow a pair.
Mason Miller
Actual flags are the reason for the decline in quality on Jow Forums
Jeremiah Rivera
At $4000 GDP per capita and have done jackshit to human progress despite your people looking like "aryan" men you are a much bigger meme of a flag.
Your culture celebrates the beauty of being lazy pieces of shits. No matter how much you fly the nazi flag or do hitler salutes or read a translation of the mein kampft, in the end of the day slav, you are still a lazy non german piece of shit.
>first thing to do is stop denying the holocaust. it is retarded. it makes you look retarded. it is unnecessary. No, considering that its the centerpiece of the anti-white world order, its entirely necessary to challenge that false narrative.
*$2,000 per capita Sorry i didnt check the latest data on that.
Robert Walker
even if you keep the main thread here as conversational and open, you could also post another for a specific side topic and link it in the header. thats double the /nsg. that would leave this area populated and if the side topic gets derailed, then oh well, next time.. 卐 - /nsg/mini: Mein Kampf and which edition ϟϟ - /nsg/seite subjekt: Natsoc and Economics, an in depth look
Colton Gutierrez
If you're natsoc and not a LARPing sperg, then no one should be able to outwardly tell, like the NRM.
Doesn't matter what they call themselves, appearance is all that matters. Walking around with swastika flags is autistic and looks bad.
Brandon Flores
fuck off you god damn optics cuck. Your place is in the Super Chats of Nick Fuentes. You have no place in threads like this.
Ryan Hall
Running around in dress-up and pretending isn't serious politics, it's autism.
Parker Richardson
>appearance is all that matters No, I think that's the problem with modern men, they think appearance and how you sound matters more than how you act and the substance of your values. Thinking appearance and what you say is all that matters is feminized thinking. Besides, their flag is a green colored Hitler Youth flag. And they aren't afraid of being seen as Natsocs, and they haven't forgotten their roots.
sitting on your chair all day in your mom's basement with a suit pretending to be a political pundit is just as if not much much worse. NRM does not pretend. Your rhetoric is as weak as your genes.
Daniel Harris
It's the appearance of looking like cosplayers that's the problem. Most people are stupid and won't bother to look into what your values are, they see the flag and immediately think back to holocaust class, and dismiss you.
Hudson Myers
the last two digits of the above prove the real identity of the poster. Coincidentally it also indicates his IQ.
that's rougly 0.0000000001% of actual national socialists in Europe. If that guy was well dressed and didn't look like a total subhuman, there would be no problem with him having a swastika flag.
Austin Bailey
How can Poles or Hungarians support any of this shit?
Bentley Sanders
no it just makes you look like a cunt.
a stupid cunt
Zachary Collins
>Most people are stupid and won't bother to look into what your values are, they see the flag and immediately think back to holocaust class, and dismiss you. I don't think that's as common as you've been led to believe. I think what people are programmed to respond to most positively is strength and determination. That's why Trump won despite what they threw at him, despite his own cringiness.
Nolan Clark
No one here is advocating that, why is every thread full of people like you demanding that everyone defend against that strawman?
Jeremiah Powell
Hopefully. Still, Trump is really moderate for how controversial he was.
Gavin Davis
Because i'm bored and want to argue with somebody
David Bailey
How do you recognise a foundation myth? It fulfils three functions. 1)It explains the origin and structure of the world (and society). 2)It defines ultimate good and evil (and from those definitions are derived the values that are used to justify the holding of power). 3)It determines what is held sacred in that society. For modern neo nazis the story of WWII and the rise of Hitler has become their foundation myth. It fulfils all three functions. 1)We live in the ‘Post-War World’. The lines on the map, the institutions, the sense of what era we live in, all arise from the starting point of WWII. 2)Ultimate evil is liberalism. Ultimate good is Nazism. The values derived from these definitions are that anti-racism, equality, diversity, anti-nationalism and so on are evil, while tribalism, totalitarianism and sexism and racism are good . 3)The only thing that is held sacred, that cannot be denied or mocked in the contemporary neo nazi doctirne, is the goodness of Hitler. The problem is that all three functions are backwards or negative. Instead of the origin event being one of fertility and new life, it was a conflagration of death and destruction. Instead of ultimate good taking the central position in the story that slot is occupied by ultimate evil. Because everyone knows that Adolf Hitler, and his wicked ideology, the personification of evil, holds the centre point of the WWII story. Instead of that which is held sacred being something mysterious and sublime (and ideology of peace, accommodation, brotherhood and progress) for the Neo Nazis their sacred idol is an obscenity of war mongering death and destruction. Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for Neo Nazis is poisoned. > Having a negative foundation myth means the tree of life for neo Nazis and the Alt right is poisoned.
this is still pseudo intellectual crap, but it makes more factual sense than your version.
Cooper Howard
I can understand why Poles might not, but why would Hungarians be against it?
Carter Jenkins
Why was the "poison gas" exhaust in the "gas chambers" of krema 1 the same as the incinerator exhaust, if zyklon B is explosive?
Adrian Edwards
I've been meaning to say, I appreciate your posts. Maybe you could do a series focusing in one specific points to promote more knowledge and understanding. Such as opposition to degeneracy for a week or two. Siting examples of how it was dealt with under Hitler and how it would be addressed today under a similar authoritarian governance. Then a week with some hard hitting marketing and visuals that blend the past and the present, promoting another key point such as the Aryan Ideal. And then another week with a fresh new topic and so on. That ought to be able to keep the subject material fresh and focused.
I've been learning so much recently about NatSoc and it has really challenged my worldview. I remember in school, all I was taught was, "Nazis are evil because holocaust". I was never taught about the humiliating social, moral and economic conditions the German people endured from issues and powers that mirror the very things which challenge western society today.
Justin Wilson
I dont think Jow Forums is the place for turning people over to national socialism, i dont mean this in the wrong way but the quality of people here isnt too great, lots of people with mental and physical disabilities, overweight, lots of nerds etc i suggest to first start with people that already dislike the current system like the working class, delinquents etc pretty much how the NSDAP started, appealing to acne-ridden overweight middle class american NEETS isnt going to bring back national socialism in the real world
Adrian Bell
This is a really good idea. I'll put something like this together. I've got folders full of sources for that very topic.
this place is overloaded with people dissatisfied with the system and society. I think if GLR were alive today, he'd be shitposting here.
You might be surprised at who actually lurks here.
Gavin Wilson
I know there is lots of people here dissatisfied with society but for years national socialism has been spread on Jow Forums and what has the result been so far? national socialism in the west especially the UK and USA are dead but in Scandinavia, Germany and to some extent Russia there has been a revival and it has sprung from the "lower classes" of society most i would wager dont even know what Jow Forums is, we should be out there appealing to the working class and others left behind by the system, but in the end we will see an even bigger national socialist revival when the economy goes to shit again this is when we really have to up our game
Adam Young
There is good and bad quality people here but the ones i have spoken to on discord etc have been very low quality and extremely unreliable, more interested in fucking memes than learning more about national socialism let alone even consider for one moment going outside of their comfort zone in the real world
Ryder Ward
part of the problem being that you literally can't go out and promote Natsoc in the UK, not since they labeled National Action a "terrorist" organization, and anyone who even remotely resembles them get charged with violating the ban on NA. In the US there is quite a bit of support for Natsoc, especially among blue collar racialists, but the system would never permit anyone openly natsoc to participate in the political system, or even to take advantage of their first ammendment rights. As we saw with Charlottesville, we've crossed a line into a new age where the system is bolder in destroying people who are open about it. That doesn't mean we shouldn't adapt and counter that kind of oppression, it just means we have to recognize the differences in each nation where we operate. The US and UK are also poisoned by considerably higher amounts of racial "diversity" than somewhere like Sweden or Norway. Its even harder to be Natsoc in Germany of course.
The man said 1000 years. Last time I checked, that 1000 years is not over yet. The fire rises. Despite its rocky start, NatSoc seeds are sprouting and bursting forth all over the western world.
