Does religion have a place in the modern world? Do religions have a place in government or politics...

>The Emperor Himself declared that Mankind would never be free to progress and advance to its destined position as the pre-eminent intelligent species in the Milky Way Galaxy until "the last stone from the last church was cast down onto the last priest."

>He had already purged ancient Terra of all its ancient religions and superstitious beliefs by the time the Great Crusade began, even going so far as to personally witness the destruction of the final church

>The Imperial Truth also held that humanity was the species which should rightfully rule the galaxy since its physical form was both the most pure and all of the other intelligent alien races

Emperor of Mankind When?

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KALKI SOON

>Dont think for yourself we do it for you

Religions are a cult that enslave people

JOIN THE DHARMIC WAR OF MANKIND ON ABRAHAMIC HERESY AND KALKI WILL GUIDE THEE HIMSELF ON THE HIGHWAYS OF SHAMBALA SHINY AND CHROME

MANDIR WAHI BANEGA

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Does Jow Forums truly feel Eastern religions are more viable than good old Abrahamic religions?

I mean, Buddhism and Hinduism have great spiritual teachings and methods of meditation, but have they ever inspired art like this?

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ALWAYS
HIMMLER WAS AN AVID FAN OF GTA
THERE WOULD BE NO NATSOC W/O INDIA

>Cherry picking a few 10-membered churches out of the billions there are.
The strawman is truly the only argument atheists ever had

Dharma inspired half of asia

Dharmic religions are the only ones that have a realistic path to salvation.

God has no religion, the adage remains true though, you meditate and you find god.
Dualism, btw.

and also science, arts and humanities correct

>tfw no white christian borderline cult theocracy to live in

looka like a nigger is about to rape a white woman

It doesn´t really matter if you are religious or hate religion. Its going to stick around.. you would have to actively crack down and purge it to really get rid of it. (1984 style on a global scale)

And also unlike other BS religion you get second chances

Another from the series, illustrating scenes from revelation.

What if we took the best parts of both worlds? The art, science and culture of secularism, and combined it with Hinduism and Buddhism?

That would be perfect for the modern world.

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Yes, they are much more forgiving. I can’t see how anyone buys into eternal salvation or punishment. Nothing ( but “God” if you believe in it) is eternal

GAS THE BIKE
RACE WAR NOW

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It's time for the more ridiculous claims to die off, but it's also time to recognize soberly which religious philosophies are worthwhile, and which traditions are worthwhile.

Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism have diversified to such an extent, that it's really vital to distinguish different traditions from one another. Certain Christian traditions, notably Quakerism, are extremely valuable. Some philosophies, like Socinianism (an early porto-unitarianism) are also valuable. There are also destructive, hideous sects, like Pentecostalism. Similarly, Islam actually has some beautiful traditions, notably the Bektashi and Alevi forms of Sufism. There are also hideous, evil forms like Salafism/Wahhabism. Buddhism is more deliberately methodical in ensuring its traditions are of value, which is to say, they seek to make meditation effective. Meditation practices like zazen, dzogchen, and possibly vipassana are extremely valuable. The actual philosophies need to be separated out by school. Soto Zen is pretty lean, and is pure substance; for utilitarian purposes, Soto Zen is probably the most valuable form of Buddhism. Vajrayana is more expansive, but it also has way more useless fat, and if you reduce it down, it probably has even less wisdom than zen (or Taoism, for that matter).

Monotheism is most valuable in expressing interconnectedness, which is even better expressed in panentheism. I think panentheism is the most valid alternative to naturalism.

We should look soberly at the actual value of polytheism, which is a sort of psychological trick wherein you adopt the traits of an idealized figure, or god. It's a sort of therapy.

Each soul is potentially divine. The goal is to manifest this Divinity within by controlling nature, external and internal. Do this either by work, or worship, or mental discipline, or philosophy—by one, or more, or all of these—and be free. This is the whole of religion. Doctrines, or dogmas, or rituals, or books, or temples, or forms, are but secondary details.

Take up one idea. Make that one idea your life – think of it, dream of it, live on that idea. Let the brain, muscles, nerves, every part of your body, be full of that idea, and just leave every other idea alone. This is the way to success, that is the way great spiritual giants are produced

Vedanta (/vJˈdɑːntə/; Sanskrit: वेदान्त, IAST, Vedānta) or Uttara Mīmāṃsā is one of the six orthodox (āstika) schools of Hindu philosophy. Vedanta literally means "end of the Vedas", reflecting ideas that emerged from the speculations and philosophies contained in the Upanishads. It does not stand for one comprehensive or unifying doctrine. Rather it is an umbrella term for many sub-traditions, ranging from dualism to non-dualism, all of which developed on the basis of a common textual connection called the Prasthanatrayi. The Prasthanatrayi is a collective term for the Principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita.

All Vedanta schools, in their deliberations, concern themselves with the following three categories but differ in their views regarding the concept and the relations between them: Brahman – the ultimate metaphysical reality, Ātman / Jivātman – the individual soul or self, and Prakriti – the empirical world, ever-changing physical universe, body and matter.

It's not about controlling nature. It's about conforming to it, and figuring out how to optimize your life by living in accordance to it - what Taoists call the Tao, Buddhists call the Buddha nature, or what Quakers call listening to God.

Not all religions are equal, not all fluff is meaningful.

Advaita Vedanta (IAST Advaita Vedānta; Sanskrit: अद्वैत वेदान्त) espouses non-dualism and monism. Brahman is held to be the sole unchanging metaphysical reality and identical to Atman. The physical world, on the other hand, is always-changing empirical Maya. The absolute and infinite Atman-Brahman is realized by a process of negating everything relative, finite, empirical and changing.The school accepts no duality, no limited individual souls (Atman / Jivatman), and no separate unlimited cosmic soul. All souls and existence across space and time is considered as the same oneness (i.e. monism).Spiritual liberation in Advaita is the full comprehension and realization of oneness, that one's unchanging Atman (soul) is the same as the Atman in everyone else, as well as being identical to the nirguna Brahman.

That's actually a valuable point.

correct

Religions that are pronatalist will dominate and eventually overtake secular peoples. It literally is demographics are destiny. Just make your tax payment checks out to your local religious community because they have a reason to organize and reproduce. Atheist cucks will never learn.

youtu.be/U84DoEClyn4

Ideas evolve with time and so does religious philosophies

Some offer answers while others do not

Vishishtadvaita asserts that Jivatman (human souls) and Brahman (as Vishnu) are different, a difference that is never transcended.With this qualification, Ramanuja also affirmed monism by saying that there is unity of all souls and that the individual soul has the potential to realize identity with the Brahman.Vishishtadvaita, like Advaita, is a non-dualistic school of Vedanta in a qualified way, and both begin by assuming that all souls can hope for and achieve the state of blissful liberation. On the relation between the Brahman and the world of matter (Prakriti), Vishishtadvaita states both are two different absolutes, both metaphysically true and real, neither is false or illusive, and that saguna Brahman with attributes is also real. Ramanuja states that God, like man, has both soul and body, and the world of matter is the glory of God's body. The path to Brahman (Vishnu), according to Ramanuja, is devotion to godliness and constant remembrance of the beauty and love of the personal god (bhakti of saguna Brahman).

Shuddhadvaita (pure non-dualism) states that the entire universe is real and is subtly Brahman only in the form of Krishna.Vallabhacharya, the propounder of this philosophy, agreed with Advaita Vedanta's ontology, but emphasized that prakriti (empirical world, body) is not separate from the Brahman, but just another manifestation of the latter.Everything, everyone, everywhere—soul and body, living and non-living, jiva and matter—is the eternal Krishna.The way to Krishna, in this school, is bhakti. Vallabha opposed renunciation of monistic sannyasa as ineffective and advocates the path of devotion (bhakti) rather than knowledge (jnana). The goal of bhakti is to turn away from ego, self-centered-ness and deception, and to turn towards the eternal Krishna in everything continually offering freedom from samsara.

This school is based on the premise of dualism. Atman (soul) and Brahman (as Vishnu) are understood as two completely different entities. Brahman is the creator of the universe, perfect in knowledge, perfect in knowing, perfect in its power, and distinct from souls, distinct from matter. In Dvaita Vedanta, an individual soul must feel attraction, love, attachment and complete devotional surrender to Vishnu for salvation, and it is only His grace that leads to redemption and salvation. Madhva believed that some souls are eternally doomed and damned, a view not found in Advaita and Vishishtadvaita Vedanta.While the Vishishtadvaita Vedanta asserted "qualitative monism and quantitative pluralism of souls", Madhva asserted both "qualitative and quantitative pluralism of souls".

Let's see what wouldn't exist without Hermeticism or Gnosticism!
>The scientific method
>The discovery of gravity
>The Renaissance
>The National Socialist German Worker's Party
Atheism couldn't exist in the way it does today without us.

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Neo-Vedanta, variously called as "Hindu modernism", "neo-Hinduism", and "neo-Advaita", is a term that denotes some novel interpretations of Hinduism that developed in the 19th century. Western orientalists, in their search for its "essence", attempted to formulate a notion of "Hinduism" based on a single interpretation of Vedanta as a unified body of religious praxis. This was contra-factual as, historically, Hinduism and Vedanta had always accepted a diversity of traditions. The neo-Vedantins argued that the six orthodox schools of Hindu philosophy were perspectives on a single truth, all valid and complementary to each other. sees these interpretations as incorporating western ideas into traditional systems, especially Advaita Vedanta. It is the modern form of Advaita Vedanta, the neo-Vedantists subsumed the Buddhist philosophies as part of the Vedanta tradition and then argued that all the world religions are same "non-dualistic position as the philosophia perennis", ignoring the differences within and outside of Hinduism.Neo-Vedanta is Advaita Vedanta which accepts universal realism:Ramakrishna, Vivekananda and Aurobindo have been labeled neo-Vedantists (the latter called it realistic Advaita), a view of Vedanta that rejects the Advaitins' idea that the world is illusory. As Aurobindo phrased it, philosophers need to move from 'universal illusionism' to 'universal realism', in the strict philosophical sense of assuming the world to be fully real.
A major proponent in the popularization of this Universalist and Perennialist interpretation of Advaita Vedanta was Vivekananda,who played a major role in the revival of Hinduism.He was also instrumental in the spread of Advaita Vedanta to the West via the Vedanta Society, the international arm of the Ramakrishna Order.

The universe is not eternal and neither is the conception of "GOD"

Godfags will defend this.

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No only homosexuality and abortion has a place in this society.

Additionally, some people consider Hinduism a form a Gnosticism, along with Buddhism.

Religion where it is based on faith; that is, where it is based on believing in certain ideas on the basis of insufficient evidence; can have no place in the future, if we are to survive our current level of technological prowess. One need look no further than the brute arithmetic of adding Islamic metaphysics of martyrdom to nuclear proliferation. It's really quite shocking we haven't been nuked yet, given what many Muslims believe to be absolutely true about the rewards that await the suicide bomber in heaven. Mutually assured destruction, the force of rationality that kept the USA and the USSR from destroying the world, won't operate when and if a suicide bomber and a nuke are wedded together. The difficult part about using a nuke is finding a way to deliver it without being killed yourself, and this is not a difficulty for a suicide bomber. Given all the other ways in which we are increasingly capable of killing large numbers of other humans, it should be obviously insane to continue to respect beliefs that have no basis in reality, and that is what religious beliefs are.

But the issue isn't religions, it's the way we discuss them and think about them. It's because we treat religions as modes of thought which don't have to answer to the same skepticism that every other mode of thought does. It's because we hold respect for believing something on the basis of nothing in this one area and nowhere else.

If one asks about religion even 1/10th of the questions that are asked about any medicine that enters the market, religion crumbles. It is time to stop privileging beliefs of this grandiose sort over skepticism, and expose them to the same truth-finding explorations to which every other area of human inquiry is exposed.

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>Gnosticism
Totally different thing but has a convergent ideological doctrine.It's younger than dharmic faith
>Buddhism
A subset of dharma espousing the middle-path

Extermely heart-breaking

"Can we find a place in modern world for religion?" is the real question. If we fail civilization will keep degenerating itself indefinitely.

What atheists don't understand is that the modern world is just yet another "better place compared to yesterday", but we need (and always will) need to keep seeking for a better places to stay live (a.k.a. MENTALLY HEALTHY) and that is almost impossible without a transcendental line of thinking.

Now guess what, religion is a tool to make this transcendental line of thinking accessible for arrogant low IQ atheists that are too worried about living in a simulation. But unfortunately we're being educated to throw the bible in the trash just because serpents don't talk.

Well enjoy the modern world while you can, it probably be the last one. Thanks for doing nothing about it btw.

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>Does religion have a place in the modern world?
Yes. Abrahamic desert death cults on the other hand don't.
>Do religions have a place in government or politics?
Dharma does. Righteousness does. Unitary self serving all consuming all conforming omniscient cults poorly masquerading as religions don't.
>Would society be better off with more or less religion?
Society is always better off on the path of righteousness.

WORDS

In reality, nothing actually changes and all is eternal. The very idea of change must be seen as false and abandoned. We may have miscommunicated what we meant by "the universe", to be fair. Samely with God. Are you Hindu or Buddhist? Either way, their are multiple ways of describing a reality we can agree is beyond words such as "infinite", "eternal" abd "finite".

Hindu
The great expansion and increasing entropy will likely cause our observable universe to cease to exist in space-time ie the end of world(observable)

the mathematics of infinity was moulded by the church to attenuate to their theological imperatives. if infinity were to be understood as a singularity where space warps unto itself, subsequent interpretations of the universe would be easier, and hypothetically, our understanding of the universe would be far superior.

but this would mean that there is no space left for a god and his seat in heaven. so here we are

>but this would mean that there is no space left for a god and his seat in heaven. so here we are

Most physicists believe our universe has a net energy of exactly 0. Naught; nothing.

If it's any consolation ,many simply believe space and time are illusions. Check out "the Road to Reality" by Roger Penrose.

>Would society be better off with more or less religion
>less religion

less is more as they say.

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How do we stop religionfags from breeding like rats?

unz.com/jman/liberalism-hbd-population-and-solutions-for-the-future/
youtube.com/watch?v=ZjuBRaLYWnA
phys.org/news/2011-01-religiosity-gene-dominate-society.html
futurism.com/genetic-idiocracy-genes-associated-with-high-education-are-becoming-rarer/
unz.com/isteve/cochran-harpending-paper-on-amish/

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>Does religion have a place in the modern world? Do religions have a place in government or politics? Would society be better off with more or less religion?
*Tips*

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Pat Barrett - The Way
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Steffany Gretzinger - Blackout
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For King and Country - God Only Knows
youtu.be/Q5cPQg3oq-o

Lauren Daigle - Still Rolling Stones
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TobyMac - Everything
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All religions are the . same at the core

Prove me wronng.

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Orthodox kikestians have always been cozy with rabbinic jews, even more so than catholics and protestants. The sooner you acknowledge the fact all sects of christianity are retarded jewish offshoots the better.

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>and combined it with Hinduism and Buddhism
Try to convince the christfags that there is anything beyond their Bible.

I used to doubt the role of religion and not give a fuck however I now believe that the belief in God is ESSENTIAL for social stability and unity, preferably under a Monarchy.