Why are so many fascists of the past and present gay. Several members of the German national socialist party were gay or allegedly gay, including Ernst röhm leader of the SA. Fascist Italy also has a disproportionate numbers of gays involved in their party. There are also clearly a disproportionate number of homosexuals in modern movements like the alt right.
Why is this and is it something we should be concerned about?
>implying there has ever been a cool party without a few gays
Hitlers idol, Frederick the Great, who he kept his picture with him on his desk, was also a homosexual. They always said Prussia was the Sparta of the North, in more ways than one this was true, Spartans were also heavily into homosexuality.
I am gay and I've noticed that several others in this movement are as well. As well as their prevalence in past fascist movements.
Probably secretly want jackbooted blonde aryan men walking the streets every day.
What and you don't. But in all seriousness why do you think fascism appeals so much to certain demographics of homosexuals. Also I believe that homosexuality is a mental disorder and should at the very least be recognised as such and looked down apoun be society. I may be a degenerate be at least I recognise my self as such.
The top layers of the Nazi Party (except Goebbels who was a converted communist) were all "butch" homosexuals who dreamed of creating a Neo Spartan homo-supremacist empire, this is a fact. It also follows the JEWlluminati standard of using homosexuals as tools, the Nazi were totally propped into power with Wall Street money (Read "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler") and armed to the teeth with technology transfers from the US and even the UK.
Hitler found out what the game was and that it was impossible to escape the trap that the JEWlluminati created for him and Germany so he cleverly decided to attack in 1939 when no one was expecting...however his homosexual emotions got the best of him and decided to attack Russia, the homosexual emotional unbalance together with the desire to have Russia in his glorious Neo Spartan Empire made him do a very stupid decision, the conservatives who dominated the army, navy and air force did not have the guts to tell him "no!"...the disaster was certain.
Butch homosexual movement in Germany started in the end of the 19th century and had very considerable success. In fact many of the infamous "stormtroopers" of the Spring Offensive were butch homosexuals.
The Top Jews (Illuminatis) noticed this and saw them as the ideal candidates to create the "antithesis" to the USSR "thesis". Money poured into the Nazi Party and massive transfers of technology to rebuild Germany started in 1921. "Hitler's economic miracle" my ass...
Is this ironic, sometimes you can't tell because of the amount of autism that exists on this site. If so I'm not claiming the nazis or any other fascist group is homosexual in nature, just that they seem to attract a certain type of homosexual and have a disproportionate number of these people in their movements.
Not ironic at all. Contrary to what Jew media tells people, homosexuality ranges from "very feminine" to "very masculine" and the very masculine tends to have militaristic views because of obvious reasons.
Hitler and the top layers of the Nazi Party dreamed of an Empire full of handsome and virile warriors who had the type of sexuality that was worthy of their virility...so masculine that it only desired the male body and not the body of the pitiful, weak female who only serves to incubate babies.
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I'm sorry friend but I believe that your lying to yourself. Are you personally a homosexual if so I think you might be a bit insecure. While the nazis clearly had a disproportionate amount of homosexuals in their party. they were seen by many to be devise and radical thats why Ernst Röhm and many other gay SA members were killed because at the time it was believed that they were planning a takeover which while false there was still defenletly a radical homosexual movement in the SA and shortly afterwards homosexuality was cracked down apoun by the nazis.
As I say I my self am gay. I think you may be a bit insecure about your homosexuality, assuming you are gay, no offence intended.
the soviet union started this meme.
No definitely not gay. Rohm was the leader of the "we should be loud and proud" faction and Hitler was the leader of the "we should be discreet" faction. When the conservatives who dominated the army, navy and air force told Hitler "We work with you but Rohm and the rest of them have to go" Hitler accepted the proposal. This was the main factor but there were other factors like the "loud and proud" philosophy of Rohm causing outrage among what was still a Christian conservative society, a string of very violent and sadistic murders of prostitutes by the SA or the SA beating the crap out of military personal out of hatred for the "reactionaries" that dominated the regular armed forces.
Probably because everyone else's is a degenerate with no self respect. I imagine gays would want someone who takes care of themselves, the same way we want women to take care of themselves and not be obese land whales.
Interesting theory. If your correct then I suppose I would take Hitlers side of being descriet about it. Homosexuality clearly can work look at ancient Rome or Greece for an example, I just don't believe these societies are the most desirable a society that embraces homosexuality incounters many problems related to it.
But any way What's your opinion on the homosexual question user?
WRONG.
you sure about that?
As one myself I see a lot of homos that hate the fact of what they are and want to see the causes of faggotry stopped ie enforced traditional values.
Elaborate
Same reason so many neocons and pastors are gay.
No one hates the gays more than a repressed homo.
The question isn't why fascists are gay it's why are gays fascist. Clearly they respond to its masculine aesthetic
Not trying to offend you but you asked: It is an highly interesting phenomenon related to the collapse of civilizations. Specifically the decadence of the Family and the rise of hyper-sexuality, most gays either had a non optimal family structure or were abused as children. Eventually gays, who are the product of decadence end up greatly accelerating that decadence because they are an extremely passionate minority of people who hate the current order and passionate minorities can become very powerful...even more so when the Jews find them useful.
It most likely stems from Gay men being rather effeminate, hyper feminine in many aspects. Nazism and Fascism have a strong emphasis on Authority and leadership with the "Big Strong Man" protecting and leading those less able. I think this leadership side is fetishized by gay men because of their desire to imitate the female thought process, they want to be taken care of and they want the Chad.
That might be true for "femmes" (feminine homosexuals) but for "butch" (masculine homosexuals) fascism is fully aligned with their worldview.
Homosexuality goes from very feminine to very masculine, many people don't know this. Masculine homosexuality is even more dangerous than the feminine one because it is far more aggressive and militant.
Modern Fascism is not for normal people. Fascism is fucked up and is very different from regular "pure" conservatism which is just nice idyllic village Christianity and community. Fascism is an ideology of might makes right and survival of the fittest it's blackpilled and nihilistic to the core and it faps to militaristic aesthetics and weird Greek statue body worship white male body worship in general weird pagan shit Ancient Greek hero worship and just all around fucked up weird gay shit it's demagoguery and a power trip a mix between a desire to be the ancient Greek Hero and pure black-pilled nihilistic view of the world naturally this attracts a whole bunch of weirdo faggots and deviants
Sorry for the delay. I agree with you completely. most gays especially the flamboyant types are a clear example of the decline of society and the family unit. I personally believe some are born gay are for others it was because of negative or abnormal experiences/living conditions usually formed around childhood and based around bad parenting, especially the lack of a father or a good one or sexual abuse. I wouldn't call my upbringing ideal but it's was far from tragic and I have a overall good relationship with my father. So for me personally I would say it's genetics
No offence taken.
For me personally I'm more masculine. I'd say that I'm attracted to masculinity and thus want to emulate it subconscious by becoming a national socialist. Not all gay are effeminate, gays are usually hype masculine or hyper effeminate, there is rarely an in between. Gay men are attractive to masculinity and thus project this on to an other man or internalise these feeling
by becoming outwardly very masculine.
Thus there are two types of homosexual male the projecter and the internaliser, I'd say I'm personally the latter.
Something i've been ruminating on. Even when you think about intellectuals, like Mishima or Thoreau, two closeted ass dudes, two very smart and articulate thinkers.
That said i'm a believer of the gay/fag or black/nigger dichotomy, so i don't give a fuck who you fuck so long as you want to give lefties the bullet.
> Thus there are two types of homosexual male the projecter and the internaliser, I'd say I'm personally the latter.
stop being a faggot
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Homosexuals aren't disproportionately overrepresented in these movements compared to their actual percentage of the population
I can't read pic related give me a small summary.
>stop being a fagot.
I'm afraid I can't user faggotry much like autism is a mental illness that can only be cured with a bullet. I have both but unfortunately no bullets.
Look at the nazi party and other fascist movements you'd be surprised.
I've read that in the past and while disgusting did nothing to cure my faggotry.
Nice words fag
Is this the usual they must be gay to hate us meme. Turn on the gas.
This is the new NPCs isn't it
Thank you, I guess
Those quads...
He is there
Because homosexuals are like rats and Jews. They try to take over and pervert anything that is good or wholesome. They go through their lives knowing that they are an abomination. In order to cope they must subvert and pervert anything that supports that natural order of things. I wish more of you understood this.
I have a theory about it. It's because they realized that order is required to create great soldiers.
Left-wing ideals create unattractive manchild basedboys who parrot bloggers, right-wing ideals create attractive men who lift and have something to say. Homosexuality has always existed, but the stigmatization forced them to stick loyally with a single partner who won't rat them out.
Socialism (and all revolutionary movements) has always attracted homosexuals. They make the best revolutionaries because they will betray anyone, and are also easily blackmailed. Their wold is one of violence, hatred and isolation.
I only know of Rohm, who are the others?
did you not read the part with the poop on his dick?
Who from the American Revolution was gay?
You can avoid such things so long as you are not at that level of degeneracy.
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I don't know them by name but it was and is well known that the nazi party especially the SA had a high number of important homosexuals.
Source?
why are there even more gays in the communist party?
in a fight, why do the fascist gays always shitstomp the commie gays?
>USSR thesis
>National Socialist antithesis
National Bolshevik synthesis?
sacrificing everything to defend your country is pretty manly
Read the pink swastika. There are also many other sources proving the prevalence of homosexuality in far right movements, it's became almost a cliché at this point.
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some shill has fired up an old pc, this is the third 2015 era pic or pasta I've seen in the last 30 minutes.
Judging by the flags it's probably a discord raid or bantz by a lil gang of oldfags.
I recall looking into the homo nazi thing & despite there being plenty of circumstantial evidence for fruity nazis that book in the op was lugenpresse & largely btfo by the true believers we used to have, & their extensive files.
Jow Forumsing Himmler's speech to the SS on queers?
"I expect any members of the SS that are found to be homosexual to be shot attempting to escape from the camps."
>Extended monologue on the real reason for bog bodies
etc etc
BASED MILO is both gay and REDPILLED
The American "Revolution" was not a struggle to overturn the existing order, but rather to preserve it.
Americans had de-facto independence for almost 200 years. The "Revolution" was a response to NEW assertions of Royal power.
>tfw no nazi bf to fuck my ass and read mein kampf with
Fucking end it ples
I know this feel.
To add, the main thrust of the speech was they undermine institutions, surround themselves with themselves instead of following any meritocratic ideal & form base relationships & move in circles that a wholesome German citizen wouldn't recognise even if he saw it.
Good speech. All fags get the gas.
I don`t think most of this is true, user. The difusion of these rumors ran in the hands of the lugenpresse. There were far more self-admitted gays on the Russian Communist party than in the National Socialist party. Stalin was the only commie that outlawed homosexuality; before that it was rampant on the bolshevik circle and it sparked a sexual revolution that degenerated the Russian society to no end.
Besides that, I believe that most gays and transexuals tend to be politically extreme to one side or the other. Most of them lean hard left and some are borderline communists, but there is a small group that leans right-wing as well and they are mostly fascists. Both homosexuals and transexuals can`t find the middle ground on politics.
Read my other post that I have linked.
The ones that lean left are projectors and the ones that lean right are internalisers
Traps aren't gay.
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>fascism is bad because they wanted to kill jews and gays and destroy liberty!
>fascism is bad because Hitler was a jew and gay and wanted to give everyone guns!