"Go back to Africa" is a common insult hurled at black americans.
At this point we have lost our communities to such an extensive degree, I would actually welcome being exiled at this point, for a chance at a clean slate, the chance to build a real community from the ground up. What we have hear in the states is a hopeless situation. Government backed matriarchy is a living hell.
Oh my God. Give them each $50,000, work out something with Nigeria, and get them the fuck out of the US. Best spent money ever.
I would rather settle somewhere that is fairly uninhabited as to avoid conflict.
Just join the Nation of Islam or some other black nationalist group that has its shit together if you want to be part of a stable and dignified community.
It's not possible because of US laws, policy, and academia. Even being in NOI only affords us but so much freedom.
Well, it's better than every other aspect of black culture in the US today and it does afford you some sense of protection from the threats that you perceive. Take what you can get. The perfect is the enemy of the good.
native africans would slaughter you all the second you stepped foot off the boat! LMFAO they hate black americans bahahahahahahahahahahaha
Liberia. Make it happen.
The last time we set up a colony the CIA and others flooded it with guns and destroyed it. Claiming we were oppressing the natives.
all niggas should just return to slavery, id love a good black bitch rubbin mah sore back right now
That's why you want to go to a place like Nigeria. It is an independent nation, not some protectorate of the US like Liberia was. My guess is that they would welcome a flood of blacks from the US with each of them bringing $50,000.
Pfft lmao!
>Government backed matriarchy is a living hell.
also, this deserves recognition
Okay nigger start a go fund me I’ll give you one cent you faggot Nigger lowly thin piece of shit
Get Liberia to rebrand itself as Wakanda, and just let nature happen.
>filling a land with niggers
>avoiding conflict
pick one.
They wouldent survive a single day
We had a colony in Africa before, but the international community shut it down because of "muh apartheid". You should know what that's like.
>Government backed matriarchy
This is trully the roots of all the madness that followed and we are living now
Liberia is your home.
>We had a colony in Africa before
As I recall the former-slaves ended up getting genocided by the indigenous blacks.
It was the other way around. Our niggers ate the natives.
Yep. I've been saying this forever, though I usually go with $25k.
Indeed it would be the best money we ever spent.
Further, we could bribe whichever sub-Saharan shithole will take them with additional monies.
Obviously we would collect their biometric data on the way out to ensure they never return.
It would be fair and voluntary; and most could be easily convinced.
>I actually welcome being exiled
Of course you do. It doesn't involve you getting off your black ass and fucking off on your own, it requires us to kick you out. This is why everyone hates you.
We could give the niggers $750,000 each to leave and still come out ahead.
It was fairly stable for 150 years until the CIA and company got involved and flooded it with guns.
It was a run of the mill, backed coup.
We tried this before, it's a country called Liberia and they poop on the beach.
Imagine, miles of shit covered beaches, it's not hard if you try.
Nope, our white children would fall under the sway of cultural marxism and bring them back
If we got rid of the kikes too that wouldn't happen.
I would want a place that is undeveloped so We could make our own nation from scratch. Nigeria, being already established would be problematic.
Maybe a place like western Sahara
Namibia awaits
I don't think you have any idea how hard it is to start an entire country from scratch, especially in the middle of the desert.
I get the feeling now, that I have been rused with this thread.
>Nation of Islam
>has its shit together
>stable and dignified community
That's a good one.
This is not a real option. The only way would be to make some random US state like say California be for blacks only and have some other state for whites only and see how it goes from there
OP, if you actually are Black you don't want to start this project off with a forced exile.
A forced exile means that you'll be forced to build a community with the same Blacks that have created physical and spiritual ghettoes in the US for *generations*. You don't erase that legacy by extrinsic force of will.
If you actually want to succeed, you need to create a vanguard of the most able, with respect to useful skills, temperament, and moral fortitude. Only by being selective could you succeed.
Yeah, ideally you would start small as a proof-of-concept with an unincorporated town in rural California. If you can't manage that, then you have no chance of settling the Nigerian or Chadian desert with Boko Haram up your ass.
Yes to all three. You are allowing your disdain for their black nationalist, Islamic, anti-white message to color your assessment of their organization itself.
The thing is, in the absence of government backing, the matriarchle structrure at the root of our communitie's problems collapses. As a community we have an average IQ of 85, so under strict guidance. I could see us being able to create a stable society.
Obviously I wouldn't just bring random black people into the colony early on, just the best and brightest.
Moronic and an emphatic NO.
Who gives a fuck if they succeed long-term. Best they don't actually, because their population would just balloon up to fucking disaster levels.
It just needs to stay afloat long enough for 90% of them here to take the bait.
Whatever you think of their message, it is a well funded and well run organization.
Absolutely not. Even if your premise was correct, you don't correct it by throwing a bunch of maladapted morons into the desert and tell them to work live. You dont want to deal with morale issues on top of the task at hand. Especially from people without scruples or experience with conflict resolution.
In the absence of government intervention, a select few will get it together. The rest will be lost.
also, internally, up right moral behavior is promoted among members and stable family units are incentivized by social reinforcement.
Can we help you pack?
Support the idea of "Reparations with repatriation". That is, give them a check for a few million, but it's not a valid check until they leave the USA and renounce their citizenship somewhere else.
I would unironically support this. Unfortunately it'll never pass Congress, even in a White Nationalist state.
Slogan:
Reparations for Repatriation!
Meme.
It.
Up.
Not bad. Alas, I do not see anything like this ever being translated into actual policy.
I would want to organize an economic expedition to Africa as a start, it could be pitched to the Gov, as helping to counter china. This idea that random lowly hood niggers would be willing, able, or even welcomed into a project like that especially early on is laughable.
The governement won't fund it. Ask Beyonce or Kanye or something for money in exchange for naming rights.
Also, do you even have the skills to create such a colony?
If I were black, I'd go to Africa. Black Americans are educated at least, comparatively. They could easily take over a country with the right numbers, and turn it into a stable and economic success. Or they would become corrupt too and just become the elite.
It only became that way when American blacks gave in the population pressure and let the native blacks into power.
The government might at least consider it. They already have Ops going on in Africa, and putting a black American face on their African mission would probably go a long way towards making inroads and building rapport with the locals.
I do have he skills to create such a colony.
Work out a deal with some counties in the deep South. They can become designated for blacks.
Tolbert was a basically a communist. Like most places in Africa, if there were western diplomatic ties, the Soviets tried to counter-balance that with their own.
if they were to do it, they sure as fuck wouldn't work with someone like you or me.
This is a gibs-less movement.
honestly if i were black, thats what id be thinking. jews have thoroughly fucked black culture and now they are doing the same thing to whites
That's complicated though. If a new government was created out of portions of the south in order for it to work a few things would have to happen the main thing being it would essentially have to be a dictatorship, full blown democracy/mob rule, is horrible for black people. Maybe a limited democracy that doesn't let women vote would stand a chance.
Nobody would be forcibly moved white or black.
Unlike most people on this board, I don't hate black people, I want them to succeed. I just don't think they belong in a white society. Blacks need rigid communities to succeed, and usually the leaders in these communities are corrupt. Blacks living in their own communities with leaders appointed by a benevolent white ruler would be beneficial for all.
I would hope more whites see this progression. Don't let our downfall be for naught.
I'm getting a project like this rolling myself. Take the best and most capable Blacks and create a gulch for them. The hoodrats can stay where they are.
I was with you until "white-appointed leaders".
I share fashy/3rd position ideas with other Blacks and they love it. I'm honestly thinking of coming out as a proper 3rd Positionist and Traditionalist. I'm working on the physique required for Chad Nationalism, which would also be *super effective* in the community.
Are you sure it's poop and not severed limbs from all the nigger violence?
>FUCK YOU WHITEY, WE'D BE BETTER OFF IF WE MOVED BACK TO AFRICA
>no problem, here's a voucher for a one way plane ticket to the third world hellhole of your choice and $5,000 cash - enough money to make you one of the richest citizens of your new home country.
>I...I DIDN'T MEAN IT LITERALLY! FUCKING NAZIS!
every time
Blacks have had it a lot worse. Blacks need rigid communities to succeed, they aren't like whites. Take that away from them and you have pure degeneracy and crime, and they become very easy to manipulate. It's currently being used against whites to blame them for their current circumstances.
Blacks and whites just don't thrive under the same circumstances, and we need to accept that if we want things to be better for everyone.
What the heck are you responding to?
This is truth. Different peoples thrive under different conditions.
I wonder what the chances of this happening one day is. America in general just holds a shit tension with blacks and whites,that wont ever heal. I'd rather just part ways with their community and give them in ethnostate in africa, or slowly send them to African countries.
Any real effort will be very choosy with the Black they accept for the ethno{state, city, whatever}. They should know the corrosive effect of degeneracy and seek to remove as much of it as possible from the new ethnocity-state. Unfortunately many Africans-Americans are infected with it.
>What is Liberia?
Yea, I wish that wasn't the case, but I look at Africa and how many corrupt leaders they have, and it's a problem. So many of the worst dictators in the world have been in African countries.
Maybe I'm wrong, I'm just trying to think of a system that would ensure that blacks would have the right leader for their nation.
A lot of the corruption is a result of globalism. Leader that sell out their country's population and resources are rewarded, albeit with a pittance.
Part of the issue with the corruption in Africa is that the West needs to accept lower returns and less access to African resources. African nations are not special in that when their leaders truly seek to put the interests of their people above the profits of globalists, they tend to either get (1) violently removed from office or (2) Western-funded 'NGOs' work tirelessly to remove them office.
Globalism, i.e. international business done without concern for the land or the people on it, is a threat to all nations. What you see in Africa will come to all nations if the tide isn't stopped.
Liberia has dropped out of the American political discourse because political actors, across US political parties, agencies, and presidential administrations, use it for shady financial dealings and spy shit.
Dude, Liberia was shit from the start, and has always been shit, even when it was sponsored and financed by the US in its beginnings.
We don't disagree.
No one is stopping you, user.
A whole continent just for you exists out there right now.
The happiest place on earth.
This is my main problem when trying to plan shit like this. People love the idea, but won't make a move until someone ELSE gives them the money and push to do so.
I'm currently saving the money and getting the skills to do something like this. If I had just *20* sane and capable people, we'd change the conversation entirely. But too many people just want to play in fantasy land and think in "wouldn't it nice"s.
Yea, I recognize that. People in the West will learn that their 'humanitarian' good will won't exist when shit hits the fan here. I think it's going to be our undoing ultimately, Westerners are deluded when they think that their wealthy and safe society is the norm, rather than the exception, and take it for granted.
Maybe other countries can be like Botwansa, which has the benefit of having one ethnic group as the majority. I still think the tangled web of African countries is too difficult to untangle independently though, at least not in a short time span. The current mix of naive/corrupt NGOs and amoral capitalism is part of the problem though, I agree with that.
As far as American blacks go however, it's inevitable that a white leader would be responsible for facilitating such a transition. That's just the reality of our country.
>Join the Nation of Islam
> has shit together
Be black join Nation of Islam
Become educated
Began to preach and give people hope
Change your last name to x
Spread Islam within your community
Uplift your community
Get killed by Islam
Yeah bro you should do that
Be pro black and think you can make a black utopia.
Kick out whites.
Proceed to take their land and employ your own people.
Watch as crops don’t grow and people starve to death.
Watch as currency plummets.
Beg white people to come back or to get billions in aid.
Don’t pay attention to the fact slaves had been given reperations and given land look up Liberia.
As far as American Blacks ago, I don't even think it'll be an African American to facilitate this. Caribbean and African Blacks are much more self-reliant, willing to work, and are much more willing to root out degeneracy. The SJW virus has taken root in the African American community and frankly, I have little hope for them.
Have you ever wondered why poverty-stricken Caribbean immigrants have been able to leapfrog over African Americans in a single generation? Not even Obama was African-American.
I'm not a race fetishist, but the more I interact with African Americans, the more I'm glad that I'm 100% Black with no admixture and have a good upbringing to back that up. Picture very much related.
We want you to go back.
Obama was a literal "African-American"
Ethiopia would be the nation to look to then. Obviously it isn't a wildly powerful nation but it's full of people who are proud and patriotic. It's honestly one of the few African nations I would be willing to live in if I had to. Enduring black countries exist but many leaders of black nations are chosen for their displays of power and some just straight take over. It's a sad situation really.
This bitch watches too many movies
Obama's father was a Kenyan economics student who impregnated a White woman while temporarily living in the United States. He is absolutely from a distinct heritage from African-Americans and he would *never* consider himself a descendant of Black American slaves, which is foundational to African-American identity.
If you're coming back to me with "well, White people see us all the same" or "Websters dictionary says an African-American is..." you've already lost the point of the distinction I'm making. You will never see a Nigerian calling themself 'African American' unless they're trying to get into med school.
I will repeat: African Americans and their culture have not yet produced a president.
he is a descendant of a black American slave through his mother.
you'll never hear a blac american calling themselves an "african-american" either outside of CNN, and ultra pc environments. ZOGed up puppets like jesse jackson were used to push that label to make them seem less american.
> Ancestry.com announced on July 30, 2012, after using a combination of old documents and yDNA analysis, that Dunham's mother was descended from African John Punch, who was an indentured servant/slave in seventeenth-century colonial Virginia.[12][13]
Are you saying Pic Related is African American because she has a Black ancestor from the 1600s? If you're reaching this far to make your point then you know you're wrong. Further, if this makes her Black, then African-Americans who on average have 1/3rd White ancestry, are White. FOH.
Do you actually think Ann Dunham, or any blood ancestor considered themselves African American?
Actually address the point I'm making instead of dancing around it like a Liberal White Woman.
>labels>genetic science
You and all the other niggers can go back while my black ass stays.
Fuck being exiled from the United States, I would become a refugee and flee to Europe if I ever get exiled.
>Wanting to go to a continent that sold your ancestors.
Further, you only see this nonsense "all Blacks are the same" from African-Americans. Caribbeans and Africans are quick to shut that shit down -- they know that "Black is Black is Black" is Liberal reductionism that seeks to erase the stark differences between Black subgroups.
What the heck are you going on about?
the term African-American was created in the 80's so no.
It was a term created because the label "black" for some reason scared them, and the label simply "American"(which is the truest) would have given them a stroke.
>go back
>back
you have alot to learn user
Yeah. I don't actually have a soft spot for Africa. They collaborated with Europeans to sell slaves for alcohol and guns, and got their shit kicked in soon after. There are other options than the US.
> flee to Europe
Europe is about to go full 1488 against dark skinned migrants and refugees. France isn't good for Black people anymore, and I can't say I blame them.
them as in (((whites)))
Then try it again for God's sake.
And keep trying until the job is done.
I'd support generous reparations and military protection for a time.
wrong. Most black americans would be quick to correct anyone who would call them African or anything they are not.
>I would actually welcome being exiled at this point
THEN GO BACK, WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR???
So, instead of using your semantic claim to ignore my point entirely, how about you actually address what I'm saying. Suppose that I'm using the term "African American" as shorthand for "Black descendants of US Slaves" just for this conversation, and paring away the baggage of the term.
How do you respond to the points I'm making?
No. Actually they'd be taught history and realize it was the only way. They'd be proud of the generation that finally fixed the problem after 200 damn years.