J.P. has got to be one of the most retarded, propped up "public figures" I have ever seen. At first I was ambivalent about Peterson, but now I firmly believe him to be a destructive shill to keep young white men stuck in the mindset of hyper-individualism, rather than return to the natural order of nationalism.
He literally says about European culture: "It's not even so clear to what degree it's European. It came out of the middle east". youtu.be/9OG4CfUVcTg?t=4m20s
What kind of retard actually takes this insane charlatan seriously? He shills for hyper-individualism and offers nothing but rambling, incoherent advice to young men, encouraging them to see themselves as individuals that are NOT part of something greater than themselves. On top of that Perterson can't even answer simple, straightforward questions: "Who was Jesus" " *long pause* Well...that depends on your definition..." (see: 9:40+) bitchute.com/video/P0PPrH4DmtSo/
>>Be American >>Worship Jew >>Western culture is not from the Middle East
Iranians are Aryan ya retard.
Eli Morgan
Nigger, you can listen to his stuff and not take it as the holy truth. He shares a lot of wise things, but you don't have to build your worldview around his thoughts. Shocking, I know.
Robert Parker
Look, I'm sure your understanding of the English language isn't that great, but Juden_Peterson was talking about European culture in general, with no qualifiers. He is a fool.
European culture fundamentally originated...guess what...in Europe. Just like Japanese culture largely originated in...Japan.
>It's not even so clear to what degree it's European. He should go to China and try say that to the Chinese. that Chinese culture comes from somewhere else.
Western Civilization started with the neolithic revolution in the Eastern Mediterranean. We don't know the genetic makeup of the first farmers or the first guy to invent written language. Giving credit of modern European culture to ''the Middle East'' makes the assumption that it is the ancestors of modern day inhabitants of Middle East that invented civilization. We know that civilization didn't come from the Arabian peninsula, and we know that modern day Middle-Easterners are mostly Arabs everywhere except Persia, Lebanon and Syria. It is up to Peterson to prove that the inventors of European culture were not in fact genetically European. He made the claim that it isn't, he has the burden of proof. Europeans mostly live inside geographical boundaries of Europe, but they have lived outside of it (Africa, Asia and Middle-East).
I'm anti-civilization too, but Peterson is a subversive trying to say that our traditions are not ''ours''.
No. Civilization begins when religion starts to lose a stronghold and money dominates life, and eventually money dominates culture so much that the civilization collapses. It has happened hundreds of times and it will again.
Blake Bennett
no.
Jayden Jenkins
He is not wrong though, don't get why people get so riled up about it. Modern middle easteners are still subhuman tough.
Levi Williams
He's fine when it comes to psychology. He has such a following that people eat up his opinion on anything else.
Jacob Campbell
ancient middle easterners were not the brown goatfucking suicide bombing subhumans of today
Daniel Hernandez
I don't even want to give answers anymore. You will never hear it
Christopher Ross
He is absolutely wrong though. European culture obviously originates from Europe and Europeans. It goes all the way back to the stone-age.
>It is up to Peterson to prove that the inventors of European culture were not in fact genetically European. He made the claim that it isn't, he has the burden of proof.
Expecting Juden_Peterson to actually say something finite, concrete, or factually verifiable is a waste of time.
Its funny because if you read up about the wacko theories from the 20th century and earlier they thought all sorts of retarded things about peoples origins. Pretty much psuedo-history same thing the nazis did.
David Morales
>juden peterstein stop shilling this kike worshiper
Whatever you believe the point is wild theories were really popular back then the nazis were a product of their time. You can find references everywhere of people claiming to be descended from mythical tribes in the far east.
The nazis whole fixation with asian origins was part of that.
Ancient Middle eastern Marsh-arabs and other proto-semites =/= camel-jocky tent Bedouin Muhammadians.
Andrew Ross
>mfw it's another JBP character assassination thread kys faggots
Benjamin Ortiz
I don't mean Carl Benjamin. I mean Sargon of Akkad in ancient Mesopotamia. The fertile crescent and ancient Egypt actually did contribute quite a bit to European civilization.
Angel Davis
Peterson self-assassinated his character.
Julian Green
There is nothing good or coherent about Peterson. He comes across as a kind of person that, in an effort to sort himself out, is trying to do the same for other people. Of course that is a very dangerous situation. He's incoherent and makes virtually no finite, verifiable statements
>he think people that right now habitate the middle east, are the people that have always live in there >he fell for the blackwashing history meme >he cant be saved anymore F
He's right though, also the concept of a nation or nationalism only came about in the last 200 years.
Levi Taylor
Peterson hung himself with his own insane, vague, false words. It's you whose perspective needs to change based upon the evidence - didn't he teach you that?
They were proto-med people. From anatolia that colonized europe
Jack Ramirez
Listen to his actual words, in context, and you will see he made no qualifiers. Just "European culture". He is a fool and a fraud. I'm not sorry if this bursts your bubble.
Well all civilizations spread out from Babylon. From there the virtues of Greece met the principles of the Bible and spread through the catholic church and gave the structure to the society upon which what we know call European culture grew.
Adrian Long
He’s right about that, but you revisionist fags don’t care about anything outside ideology. Read Will Durant
Nathan Long
Holy shit, is that his wife? She literally looks like a fucking goblin.
Luke Baker
yeah yeah and the queen of England's a nigger We Wuz Euro trash n sheit
David Morgan
Stonehenge is as old as the pyramids
David Wright
You’ll literally no better than the wewuzkangs nigs. The Middle East exerted massive cultural influence on the Minoans, Greeks, and Romans. The Greeks even wrote about how they had more in common with Egyptians than they did with Germans
Wrong. Peterson made the fact-free claim that European culture came from the Middle East. If you would like to provide information that contradicts 7,000yrs of archeological information that proves otherwise I'd love to hear it.
varg is a literal retard i don't know why you would throw that name around like it has weight to it
Lucas Smith
Are we talking modern "Greeks" or actual ancient Greeks circa 500bc? If we are talking ancient Greeks, Germany nor its people we existed as a nation in that region at that time.
Nigga, at the time Egypt was a Mediterranean nation and not considered part of Africa. It wasn't until after the fall of the pharaonic dynasties that Egypt became an Arab shithole.
>don't know the genetics of the first farmers Wrong. They were likely the Natufians and their genetics have been studied. The closest people to the Natufians are Arabs from the Arabian Peninsula. The first evidence of animal domestication is from the Arabian Peninsula as well.
Anyway, neither the early Mesopotamians, the people of Harappa civilization or the ancient Chinese were white.
Western civilization had nothing to do with the neolithic. It started in Europe.
>Middle-Easterners are mostly Arabs everywhere except Persia, Lebanon and Syria. And Egypt and Turkey. Those countries mentioned are already most of the Middle East. You have no idea as to what you're talking about.
Peterson is right. Without Middle Easterners, who are closely related to those living today, you wouldn't have much of European culture. The most obvious one is Christianity.
Source for Natufian claim: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5003663/ See figure 1 and extended figure 1. Closest populations are Bedouins, Saudis, Palestinians, Libyan Jews.
That's correct. It's a mistake to think Western culture was not unique. It may not have existed if it wasn't for the existence of ancient cultures but it's also very different. Buddhism comes from India.
Connor Ross
If your personal development needs to come from an emaciated Zionist shill who eats nothing but steak and fantasies about fucking every woman in his family, you should re-examine your ability to think. You're far too stupid and bluepllled to be posting on this board.
Kayden Lewis
The closest people to proto Semites would have had about at least 50% Basal Eurasian mixture. And the people with the highest amount of that admixture are Bedouins.
Ancient Middle Easterners would have beheaded you for your stupidity, they weren't the sensitive faggots present today. They were not like Westerners at all.
Julian Sanders
>Peterson is right. Without Middle Easterners, who are closely related to those living today, you wouldn't have much of European culture. The most obvious one is Christianity. That is categorically incorrect.The entire region of Europe had 100s of unique cultures even prior to the introduction of Christianity. Are you familiar with a hip new area of study called "archaeology"?
>what is Christianity Oh yes, this European religion, with its white center figure, its birthplace in Europe, and much of its stories drawn from European folktales.
The pre-Christian religions in Europe were all gone. Some influenced the way Christians did their rites, like Christmas and Easter. But for the most part, they were replaced by Christianity.
When Peterson states that culture from the Middle East influenced Westerners, he's obviously talking about the era of Charlemagne till modern era.
Nathan Scott
What did you expect? He's a Jew.
Lincoln Jenkins
shut up retard
Zachary Price
Oh, so you have some quotes or evidence that he was "obviously talking about the era of Charlemagne till modern era". How long should I wait?
>first Christian empire in Western Europe >not defining beginning in Western Christianity Peterson's interest in culture is in psychological parallels. Agree with him on his conclusions regarding psychologian and his supposed Juugian approach or not, he does look at European culture from that angle. He spends a lot of time looking at the Bible as well. Ergo, when he's dealing with Western European culture, he's interested in its obvious beginning. He literally states that the story of Christ is the foundation of the West in one of his interviews with Joe Rogan.
You just don't understand the context of what he's talking about. It happens a lot with Peterson's radical collectivist critics.
Lucas Lopez
Of course he is right. Christianity is the biggest cultural factor in the west, and its basically a modification of Judaism.
Jews have always owned the world
Benjamin Powell
The sign was how popular he got, how fast it happened, and how many news outlets fatured his name all at the same time for the insignificant act of saying >trannies should be referred to by their actual genders This shit wasn't radical or new. His opinions and memes are retarded. >clean your balls, clean your teeth, wash your penis A bunch of other deep state figures have written similar things, like its some kind of research out of the same CIA Tavistock program (pic related) -- McRaven was one of Obama's operatives that "killed" bin Laden
>You just don't understand the context of what he's talking about. It happens a lot with Peterson's radical collectivist critics. Translation: you don't got jack shit. Like most Jordan Peterson acolytes, you fill in his vague, meandering, incoherent words with your own meaning. He's no different from a shaman who speaks only in vague, fluid terms, allowing you to fill in what you want to be true. It's laughable how weak minded you are.
He's just dumb boomer posting. What he means is that christianity broadly comes out of the middle east and that it later turned into the Enlightenment. He thinks that "Western Culture" means Christianity + Post Enlightenment Europe.
Eli Mitchell
This. The whole "we come from Africa" meme just exist because the only known common ancestor AT THE TIME was from Africa.
There are already older ancestors that were found on Europe. The whole meme is already debunked but the news never gained traction on the mass media. (((for some reason))).
The whole "we all come from Africa" is a forced meme.
Isaiah Peterson
depends if you consider greece to be the middle east or not
Parker Ortiz
>Tavistock God fucking damn that rabbit hole is deep.
Gavin Lewis
Well, the woman Europe is named after is literally middle-eastern.
greece was the first part of europe to be infected, but it originated in the middle east.
Lucas Hernandez
>The sign was how popular he got, how fast it happened, and how many news outlets fatured his name all at the same time for the insignificant act of saying >>trannies should be referred to by their actual genders >This shit wasn't radical or new. His opinions and memes are retarded. >>clean your balls, clean your teeth, wash your penis Right. Jordan Peterson speaks in vague half-truths or outright incoherent babbling. Nothing he says is insightful or axiomatic. He just appeals to people seeking meaning in life by providing nebulous shamanistic statements they can fill in with their own desired meaning.
Fat middle-aged women have Eckhart Tolle. Lost young men have Jordan Peterson.
