This guy might go to prison for doing what cunts do every day. Add to that the Violence Against Women Act, tender years doctrine, women led business grants, etc etc etc. Women do NOT want equality under the law! They only use "muh equality" arguments when it's in their self interest. We need to respond with "fuck your bullshit equality".
Anti-male hypocrisy
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It's the social norm for men to pay, if he didn't plan to he should have told them. Women don't generally do this, or at the very least the man EXPECTS that he will be paying.
>extortion
The guy is an asshole but how is that extorting anyone? Did women not assume he would be paying and that is the only reason they went? Bear in mind every single day women bail on dates with men they find beneath them, sticking them with the bill.
>It's the social norm for men to pay
That doesn't seem very "equal."
This is a civic case if I have ever seen one and not a criminal case. Fuck us dudez.
Guy does what women do to men
Goes to prison for it
And? We're not equal. It's only raving feminists that play that dumbass card. 90% of people know there's obvious differences between men and women
>does exactly what a women does
>goes to prison for it
Somebody explain.
you're never FORCED to pay for a woman's food. Just expected to. The only exception would be if you said you would, got there, then decided you didn't wanna and the woman had no way to pay, and even then you probably wouldn't be made to pay for her, just be called an asshole.
Anti male hypocrisy is largely due to men who wont grow balls and lobby for their rights. Any time a group of men try ti get together to make change in the system you fucking autists joke what a bunch of faggots. It also doesnt help you bow to every whim of women
Feminism has captured our justice system. If you can't see that you're blind as a bat. So don't call them 'raving feminists' when the proper form of address is "Your Honor." People like you want men to play along with gynocentric "social norms" while at the other end of the hall, feminism enforces gynocentric laws from the top down. Rigged game.
>they met on the dating site Bumble
>It didn't occur to her that someone would walk out on her.
>"That just never came to mind," Jane said. "What is he benefiting from it, really? Is that all you want, is a free meal?"
>Carol Meredith got left with the bill at Mercado in Pasadena, but managers picked up her tab.
>Meredith also met Gonzales on Bumble.
>"I feel like any man who loves his mother is probably going to love me in the right way," Meredith said.
>"In short, the defendant's wrongful conduct induced innocent third parties to pay for his meal, using the implied threat of public humiliation or being viewed as an accomplice," a criminal complaint says.
On Bumble women make the first contact.
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>Any time a group of men try ti get together to make change in the system you fucking autists joke what a bunch of faggots.
this has everything to do with WW2 and the white-man-is-evil-in-groups meme
>Guadalupe Gonzalez
> Jow Forums defending some deceitful spic just because he is male
You guys are fucking idiots
If this guy gets sentenced then sure as hell America is going to burn
The difference obviously is he's sneaking away, leaving unexpecting women trapped with a bill that he never once indicated they'd had to pay. Again it's the social norm, are you seriously shocked that feminists would be hypocritical with their equality bs? You're suppose to know they're moronic and wrong and be better.
This is actually a good legal argument, senpai jap
Feminism didn't make these norms jackass, the man has ALWAYS been expected to pay for shit since before feminism was a word. You're the one blatantly ignoring the very obvious deception this guy employed. It's one thing to tell a girl you're not gonna pay, it's another to leave her with the check for both of you. Women and men are different, get over it fag, you're gonna be expected to do stuff they're not, it's what you get for being smarter and more capable.
>Women do NOT want equality under the law! They only use "muh equality" arguments when it's in their self interest.
That's the problem with the persistent slave mentality in society. Only because a gender or an ethnicity is weak and possibly stupid, maybe even disprivileged, doesn't make them good or preferable. Giving women power only has shown their inherent ugliness and all the centuries of suppression start to make sense.
He could tell them to go fuck themselves by saying he is female by way of a male transitioning to a female.
So the gynocentric restaurant manager decides to pay princess' bill out of fear of being seen as an accomplice because our culture is so woman-centered that it would be publicly humiliating to not start throwing money at a crying woman. Why should I pay to feed the group of people that made this sickness possible in the first place?
I hope this guy walks and keeps doing it forever.
yep. they want to get shafted at every end.
Who gives a shit, he is a jerk but to face criminal charges ??? buddy, go fuck yourself
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fuck you cunt
> it's only the feminazis
and how many times have you stood against them?
how much have you reaped the fruit of their craze?
you're quick to
> it's only a handful of them
like when women say
> it's only a few muslims that act as terrorists
while the vast majority of them cheer, secretly or not, their brutality
so, fuck you cunt
for too many years you have sided with the wrong band
The funny thing is even if things go back to the way it was in a social aspect, a few hundred years from now cucks will be giving them all the perks and priviliges back and the future society will crash and burn all over again/
But that's exactly the point. You want us to continue practicing gynocentric social norms, while patriarchal government has been entirely subsumed by feminism. Do you see the problem here? You can't appeal to partial tradition. The tradition of patriarchal rule of law was indispensable in making gynocentric social norms possible. The social compact has been broken. If I don't have patriarchal government, I do not have to abide by these outdated social norms that only work against me when I do not have rule of law on my side.
> "...Is that all you want, is a free meal?"
the absolute lack of roastie self awareness
Yeah man, people tend to get charged for theft, or for DUBIOUSLY trying to force others to pay for them. That is illegal. Did you know it's illegal to just take food from a store? Or to steal someone else's groceries? Crazy right?
Cringe bluepilled r*dditor
when women "do this", they don't run away to trick the men like this guy did, because they don't need to. they simply get the man to pay. most of the time i guess they don't have to do anything, guys tend to pay automatically. in general, men are expected to pay, and they do.
when i'm on dates i try to split the bill like 9 of 10 times because most of the time i feel it's not going anywhere so why should i bother paying for everything. once in a blue moon however i get a decent girl and it feels like it's going well, so i'll just do everything in my power to make it, including paying for everything. that's just how it goes.
Why didn't he just say he forgot his wallet at home?
Cucks like this dude piss me the fuck off.
It okay to face criminal charges for being jerk bro
It feels so good giving my ex wife of 2 years a life time of alimony and half my assets bro,there women they deserve it
Gynocentrism.
Never once have we lived in a patriarchy. Nor do we live in a matriarchy now, you're just grasping at straws, taking such a shitty example to try and go "LOOK! LOOK! DUH WOMENZ ARE EVIL!". I'll side with you with some dad getting fucked in marriage court, but this is a cut and dry case and no amount of your bitching will change it.
Go to dinner with a woman on a "date" she orders the lobster, champaigne and rib eye.
Check comes, she just bats her eyes at you.
Literally woman will go on dates just for free food.
I dont see the issue for what the guy did.
If Im on a date, and the woman so much as LOOKS at her phone, im out.
I dont tell her, I just get up with a smile, and leave. Dont care what part of the meal.
If she expects me to pay, then I am paying for 100% of her attention.
that's actually a brilliant crime
How is it cut and dried? He hasn't seen his day in court yet. Or are you suggesting that our justice system is so slanted in favor of women that we don't even need to see the evidence or empanel a jury? Are you a woman. You seem like a woman. And you're wrong, we absolutely did live in patriarchal societies once upon a time. And until we get them back, I simply do not feel obliged to abide by your gynocentric social norms. Pay for your own meals, open your own doors, fight your own fights.
I'm not talking about any case except this one, retard. And if you can't trust a woman to not do that to you, it's your fucking fault for not getting a prenup or for marrying her at all. No one forced you to marry her and when you did (obviously not really you because you've probably never held a conversation with a woman) you knowingly took on these risks, then you bitch when something you knew could happen, happens. Marriage is a game you have to willingly play
>Never once have we lived in a patriarchy
you're so full of shit
If the man asks the woman out he should expect to pay and vise-versa. I doubt this psycho looking guy was asked out unless it was by some orca.
Are you retard how did he force her to pay. He didnt hold a gun to her head. Jesus christ stop being a cuck. Was he a jerk sure but jail time dont be a retard. In a world were women are shouting #metoo and screaming about bs like toxic masculinity and women can do anything cuz the patriarchy is dead,why the fuck should men abide by outdated patriarchal standards
>mfw I didn't prepare for unforeseen consequences
"If a woman doesn't go along with abnormal shit I didn't even tell her, I leave" You've never been on a date.
Because the evidence is very plain? Chat logs, multiple victims, testimony from the restaurants, asshole doesn't stand a chance and he shouldn't. Just because you don't want it to be doesn't make what he did any less theft at the very least
>California
He looks like a jew.
So what did he sign a contract he was going to pay.. you must be a woman only a woman can rationalize being left with a bill as a criminal act
You haven't seen any of the evidence, roastie. You've read a news article. You haven't heard his side of the story, or seen any of the evidence he has to submit, or let witnesses be cross-examined, etc. You know, the rule of law. But I guess that just doesn't matter when a woman starts crying.
We've had female rulers in many areas since before roman times. Therefore it wasn't a patriarchy. Just because a woman has never been president doesn't mean we were ruled solely by men and women were just subjects.
If he didn't force HER to pay then he forced the establishment too. Still extortion or theft. Why is his whims above the law? Why are the goods and services of the restaurant irrelevant? You think some magic fairy just pays for all of it when he runs out?
And people wonder why MGTOW is getting more and more popular
Thanks ladies, you made your bed, now lie in it. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too, they should not be surprised that the other side simply took the other end of the ultimatum and simply left.
i agree with you in all of this, but you have to remember that Jow Forums is extremely biased in this matter. it's filled with people that hate women for whatever reasons, so i'm not surprised so many are disagreeing with you. what he did should obviously be punished.
Once again, social norms. He is, at the VERY LEAST responsible for everything he ordered himself. Do you think you can just say "I made no promise to pay!" and just leave a restaurant after eating your meal? Because that's a crime.
Cucks in the thread dont understand this. It always amazing to see the level of cuckery on Jow Forums whenever it comes to these type of discussions. Its like 70% cuckery on Jow Forums
>thinks feminism is about "equality "
Oh son.
it is really your argument that, because a statistic outlier, it wasn't a patriarchy?
fucking trolls
we are EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW
Social norms have changed sweety and women did everything to kill it. It was considered socially norm to ask a coworker out on a date and bitches killed that. It was considered socially normal for women to say in the kitchen and look after the kids but that changed so deal with it hunny
No, I explain it to her, by openingly shutting my phone off and putting it away, if she doesnt understand that, then she is a dumb whore.
She doesnt have to shut hers off, but I think the message is clear. We are on a date, it is essentially a job interview. You dont glance at your phone or text during a job interview do you? This is only for the first date of course. You would be surprised how many girls get it. Only a few have not, but I suspected they were low iq anyway, but hot.
This is why marriage is a meme. I already told my girlfriend I'll have a wedding but I'm not getting legally married. It's up to her if she wants to let her parents know or not.
This shit is why I'm gay nigga. Fuck wahmen
The psychologist in the video for this "article" is sort of blanching at the idea that men have no compassion for women anymore.
women will pay.
dearly.
Troof. Ultimatley cuck men allowed our rights to errode.
serious question, why is the other person forced to pay? If I go on a date and the guy leaves, why is that my problem? I would pay for my order and leave as well but not pay for his stuff. Maybe I would give them his Tinder Profile but nothing more. It's their business to find him. Or not?
You have no arguments
sorta, what's your point?
Social norms have changed but it's still very much the norm for men to pay, and further it is 100% Abnormal to expect a woman to pay and is wrong to leave her with a bill without so much as a word.
No one believes you, this is a fantasized scenario you've made up to jerk yourself off to.
This...If you ask the states "permision" to get married then you arw essentially inviting a vampire into your home.
But Protip user.
Stop saying "legally" married, just say married. Dont even bring the word legal into it.
If your girl asks why you never went to the court house to get a license just say
"Im marrying you, baby, not the state".
The next step is gonna be men just opted out of alimoney. The more men not paying into the system will lead to the system buckling and breaking
social norms and laws for stealing in restaurants haven't changed.
A lot of sand in your vagina this morning, huh?
Only a dumb cunt wouldnt believe me because all you have ever had are cucked loser beta faggots fawning over you. Im 40 little girl, and you are clearly a dumb whore whom I would have walked out on on the first and ONLY date
>democrat implying an egalitarian male has no rights because he is a minority
pottery
Lol
Social norms have changed but but we need this one to stay the same *nervous face*
Bitch go change your fucking tampon
the user you responded to is right and your painful lack of argument helps illuminate that
>Men not paying for dinner dates with women is stealing
Show me the law that says this.
Look up common law marriage. You’ll be fucked either way.
I wonder who could be behind this post...
because alphas know that it's all going to come back around again. when this whole feminism thing cannabilizes itself, the alphas will pick up the pieces and rebuild. until then, just sit back and watch the carnage.
Its amazing how easy it is to spot women despite this being an anonymous board
Where the fuck do you think you are retard? You think saying any of that really gives your bs stories any more credibility?
I'd say until the waiter asks who's gonna pay and one part claims the bill - everybody is responsible for themselves.
Do you think only women eat or drink on dates? What about his food and everything he ordered himself? That's where the crime is idiot.
yeah but it wouldn't have been necessary to let everything fall sto pieces if men weren't so passive.
I'd say everyone on earth should pay ten percent of their income to me in taxes, but that's not the law.
Did he grab the food and go? Did he hold a gun at counter and say gimme the food no he left another party who was more than capable of paying. You bitches can get fucked its only going to worse for you lot. Reap what youve sewn
>Paul Guadalupe Gonzales
Yeah, real fine upstanding citizen there. Just face it, he should be locked up
The leaf checks out really. A date means "let me take you out to dinner", not let's grab something to eat.
That said if a girl offends my hospitality by sitting on her phone all the time, only orders the most expensive shit on the menu for shits and giggles or in general is only there for a free meal without being engaged she can go fuck herself.
yeah user is completely right. that's how courting works when you're a guy, you're expected to pay the bill. that's how it's always been.
but white men gladly fell for that meme and adapted it. My grandfathers went through WW2 and weren't guilt ridden. Why are the other white men so selfhating?
also reminder that you are NOT ever "stuck with" someone else's bill, you have NO legal obligation to pay your partner's dine and dash and you can inform authorities I'd you believe a date has left without paying
it is also illegal for an employer to garnish employee wages and tips over dine and dashers and any employee who tells you otherwise is guilting you or themselves the victim of a crime
So it's a crime to not pay for your own meals? Then why do women get away with it? More social norms bullshit? So men get fucked at both ends. We lose on the law, and we lose on social norms.
>muh 1% queens who only showed up if there was no male in the family
You are one dumb fuck. The general rule was a man has the final say in households.
The only women rulers existed because there were no men in the family. And they were very rare.
It wasn't truly abusive to women as people like to claim. Wife beaters were still punished. But political power was overwhelmingly in male hands.
Most female power came from who their husband was.
Two chicks agreeing with each other to keep the scam going
>Did he grab the food and go? Did he hold a gun at counter and say gimme the food no he left another party who was more than capable of paying.
no but it seems, he left without paying what he ordered. Which is considered stealing as far as I'm informed.
so there is no law that forbids stealing in US?
And they wonder why MGTOW is rising. Men are opting out and women are going REEEEE "muh social norms"
it's not about being a man or woman. it's about being human. and human are flawed. we're always going through negative and destructive cycles because we can't fucking help ourselves.
Enjoy the new world
That's a cuck move. Vanishing without even saying goodbye to the women is the alpha move. No embarrassment involved, just pure trolling.
I don't know that it's stealing, to be honest. I'm not just going to trust some gynocentric news articles account of it, from CNN no less. I bet if we heard his side of the story and saw what evidence he had to submit, there's more to it than what CNN would have us believe. But in either case, even if what he did was illegal, it's just evidence men are put in the predicament of having to abide by gynocentric social norms, while having no androcentric recourse in the very legal institutions men built in the first place. That's a rigged game and I won't play it.
The only incentive behind even playing along with those norms is shame and that just doesn't carry the same weight as it used to. Men aren't given any real incentives to play along with those expectations.
Because most guys agree to pay for the meal. If you're not going to pay for something you order say it up front.