memes aside, what's your actual stance on the authenticity of the holocaust?
>1. the holocaust happened as stated by mainstream sources >2. the holocaust did happen but its death-toll/significance is greatly over-exaggerated >3. the holocaust didn't happen as the final solution wasn't a genocide >4. the holocaust was intentionally fabricated by allies/jews
Probably happened. The 6 million number has no basis in reality though
Jason Peterson
German government rounded up undesirables, including Jews, and put them into concentration camps. There’s no denying that, but it would seem that the total tally of losses is exaggerated. I don’t think it’s relevant because in the end, Hitler is a scumbag for starting a way which had 50 million Europeans killed and cemented American dominance over Europe.
Easton Campbell
4.
Haavara Agreement. Germany was trying to get the Jews to Palestine. But Britain owned Palestine and curtailed the transport. Deportees languished in concentration camps but had amenities such as pools, currency, theater. Logistics broke down and people starved. Allies swept in and had to cover up the EPIC amounts of rape that their and Soviet soldiers perpetrated on polish and German women. They invented the soap and lampshade BS. Made their rape victims view the fake shrunken heads and starved bodies so they'd think well maybe my rape is small potatoes. They called this process denazification. Then Elie Weisel stepped in and fabricated stories about spinning knife rooms, holocoasters, Masturbation machines, twin pain studies, etc.
It's all a lie.
Parker Rodriguez
>>/b/
Leo Ramirez
Anglos are the scum of this earth
Connor Edwards
It probably happened, I reckon.
But it's historical importance to us is grossly exaggerated.
It wasn't the largest or most successful ethnic cleansing in history - it wasn't even successful really.
It looms large in our imaginations because it was recent, in historical terms, and because there are Zionists in positions of power who will not allow us to ever forget it, because it gives them power in the "Victim Hierarchy".
Stop lionizing victims.
Victims are categorically not heroes; they are the meek common men and women who surrender to inexorable fate.
Heroism is about resistance, not passivity.
Thomas Ortiz
I’m starting to open up to the idea that Zyklon B and the gas chambers were only used for (or at least designed/intended for) delousing purposes as opposed to genocide. The official story makes about as much sense as the the one we’re being told about Syria right now.
. the holocaust did happen but its death-toll/significance is greatly over-exaggerated This. Especially the significance part as people use it to further agendas. Many people have suffered from genocide and you don't see it being shoved down our throats constantly. The practically brainwash you into never being upset with Jews in high school. It's especially bad considering Jews own the media in the US, which isn't up for debate. It's a fact.
Joseph Roberts
It must suck to have your culture indellibly changed by hundreds of years of our rule.
By the way, how's the space program going?
Need another cash boost?
I mean, we meant you to use it to feed Dalits or something, but we don't really care what you do with it as long as we can keep raping your national resources and labor market at rock-bottom prices.
Landon Torres
>are you a LOSER who believes the lamestream media >or you are a cool, hip alpha male who knows the TRUTH lol
Charles Jackson
yes they are the cause most of our problems, yes even the jews
Jose Cox
3. and 4. but jews did die in camps from typhus and allies starving germans out
Jaxson Gray
2. The event did happen, but the toll was overtly exaggerated. People did die during that time in the camps, to deny their existence is folly, but their deaths were mostly from disease and malnutrition.
You still haven't payed back your debt to India leave alone a cash boost, also we can feed our own it was only under the British we had a famine every alternate year They are the Jews
Carson Walker
My stance is that anybody letting such questions influence the legitimacy of their struggle for survival is a bluepilled normie cuck.
No matter if 6, 6 million, or 6 gorrilion jews got shoaed, the number of sandnegro rapefugees id like to admit into my country is the same.
Anthony Myers
2
Nolan Davis
2. Around 3-4 milion died in them campz, from gassing, hard labour, diseases and executions. Some were cremated, some were put into mass graves. However the number is overplayed in the media as it wasn't just the jews that were exterminated en masse, Poles, Roma etc. Plus they tend to make the numbers seem that only Jews were killed, but most of them identified as Pole-Jews, Poles of Moses faith. On the other side comparing civilian casualties to the Holocaust is downplayed, and those deaths were also part of a larger depopulation plan and were carried out in similarly ordered and planed action. The other thing is that anti-semitic sentiment was a common thing in Europe during XIX and XX centuries, funnily enough it was the German Empire that started to incorporate Jews in their non-assimilated state into the fabric of their administration. Americans didn't accept refugees, Brits tried to play Jews vs Arabs in Palestine, France tried to use Jews in their control of Algeria etc. etc. Oh and one more thing - a great number of Jews especially in the Eastern and Central Europe were communists and were the fundamental force behind CzK - many Jews were killed because of that. because they betrayed their states for the communist and were behind many mass executions on non-Jewish civilians.
Jordan Robinson
Red cross said 250,000 after the war. A bunch of 'eyewitnesses' claim it was 6 million, but these are the same people who claim holocoasters, lampshades , soap, seeing Mengele around every corner, 'gas chambers' with flimsy wooden doors and not very lethal gas that comes out of showerheads???? etc etc. Why do the 'surprise its a gas chamber' shower room routine when everyone there supposedly knew it was a death camp? Plus the cremation angle doesn't make sense when you do the math. Too many bodies, too little ovens and time. Also there a ton of senile survivors who forgot that they were supposed to exaggerate and told of lovely orchestra halls, arts and crafts, libraries, dance parties on fridays etc. Nothing is believable about the 6 million thing and it just makes it look worse that so many 'survivors' have made so much money in reparations over the years. At this point the only reason anyone would believe it is because they haven't thought about it.
Jackson Barnes
it doesnt really matter if it happend or not.
Wyatt Stewart
>5. I don't give a fuck but shit seems fishy and there shouldn't be restrictions on investigating or being skeptic
Thomas Wood
Why did they shave their heads first if they were just going to gas them?
Jace King
My position is that the story we hear is propaganda, and that I don't know the truth.
Historical details like are literally irrelevant to my life... and are irrelevant to what ought to be our countries policy.
Asher Gray
>Let's round up the Jews, transport them to camps from all around Europe, feed them, shelter them, THEN gas them, THEN burn the bodies as well What an elaborate scheme these Nazis had.
Mason Clark
some where between 2 and 3 the holocaust happened but it wasn't intended as a genocide. Still hundreds of thousands perhaps even over a million Jews died of malnutrition, typhus or were shot during escape attempts. Certain actions taken by Einsatzgruppen were outside their mission parameters but were not punished as they should have been.
The Nuremburg trials were an attempt to exaggerate the war-crimes of the Third Reich to justify the alliance with the Soviet Union and the shear cost of the war to the civilians in the US, UK etc
Jacob Ortiz
The facts I believe in.
1. In any human system where some people have life or death authority over others there will be cases of abuse. 2. In Nazi Germany Concentration camps did happen, just like they did in America. 3. Since the camps run by the Germans were separate and under different officers some camps were more abusive than others. 4. American Camps didn't have starving Japanese Americans because no one was bombing American bridges, trucks, warehouses, and railroads. 5. German camps all had pictures taken by the allies of skeletal prisoners, but no one talks about the skinny as fuck starving guards in those same pictures. Remember we bombed the hell out of their food distribution. They all starved to death. 6. All the accused crimes were committed in camps that the Soviets liberated, and none in the camps taken by the western allies. These camps were not available to inspect behind the Iron Curtain after the war. 7. Allegedly, the Soviets later dwarfed the Nazi death tolls for Jewish and gypsy death camps. Again in places were the west could not inspect. 8. No one wants to accept the blame. It's easier to blame the guy you just defeated than the Soviet enemy who was ready to fight another war. 9. There is no physical evidence of wide spread genocide or published policy of such practiced by a people who were famous for documenting everything. These people literally made the phrase "Papers Please!" infamous. 9. Every organization that says the Holocaust definitely happened also tries to guilt or demand money from whoever they are talking to right afterward when they know those people had nothing to do with any of it.
Not authentic in my book. War is just war. It is not meant to be practiced in a peaceful, nonlethal manner and the winners will lie about everything bad that happened afterwards.
3 & 4, why? Because the killings that did happen weren't systematic and on a very small scale compared to the million and millions that died in camps they state. Also, all the famous holocaust pictures of dead or dying Jews are of starving/sick ones. Ones that would be starving likely because of the allied blockade and bombing campaigns starving Germany as a whole. The allies took the opportunity post war to spin more propaganda so people back home could feel good about what we've done to win the war so there'd be no outrage over the truth.