Every religion is just a cult. Definitions don't change just because something is popular

SHOW YOUR FLAG COWARD LEAF

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A very enlightened post, good sir, have an upvote from me.

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Instead of relying on more lies how about just using logic and reason? I will never understand how anyone can look at the stonings in Islam or witch hunts and decide that religion is a positive. It's like assuming robberies are good because they might use the money to cure cancer. Focus on what is rather than what can.

Christianity literally built the western world. And your beloved capitalism was birthed in monasteries in the tenth century. We do focus on what is. And what is is pretty great. To paraphrase Augustine, I would rather have one master than as many masters as I have vices.

I can't decipher what the fuck you're saying but I'll just remind you that definitions are not the same as a particular object.

Because you're a brainlet or underage.
Stonings in islam kept gayness and degeneracy down. Each state which allowed and in time encouraged homosexuality has fallen.

Your point was based on definition above. I used it to show you that ancap is religion worshipping worth. Now you're undermining your initial point kiddo

Capitalism is a simple economic system where nobody infringes on anybody else. It has been around since caveman days, so don't try to claim it's your cult's grand invention.

>Getting rid of faggots and treacherous sluts is a bad thing
"Companies need no regulations whatsoever, monopolies will organically cease to exist if the market is unregulated"
Go back kiddo, reddit is calling you.

Capitalism is not simply trade. It requires capital. Hence the name.

The cultist resorts to defending Islam if it means he can make it sound like he actually likes his bullshit indoctrination.

Religion is the only form of mental illness that is sanctioned by society.

And you heard it here first.

A tiny berry picked from a bush is capital. You seem to be confusing fiat with capital.

There is a generally agreed upon set of ideas in all religions.
Stop acting like there is not a generally agreed upon set of ideas in atheism. You're not special and you're not above it.
Moreover, you've spent the majority of your intellectual energy arguing against only one religion, Christianity, instead of all religions.
You've also picked the safest religion to criticize. Try criticizing Islam or Hinduism sometime. You won't because atheists are abject cowards.
Atheists won't criticize Islam for fear of violent reprisal.
Atheists won't criticize Hinduism (or any other majority nonwhite religion) for fear of accusations of racism.
Atheists are the goodest goys.

Now go sip your Starbucks S O Y chai latte you mindless consumer drone.

I defend a single doctrine,not a religion you brainlet.
Let me guess you read one book from Ayn Rand and you think you own the world, ain't I right kiddo?

Religion = philosophy + myth + sacred ideology

Most Atheists are just edgy Nihilists

>myth
You're going to hell now. The authoritarians who wrote that gobble-de-gook need you to believe every word and every contradiction, even if it means threatening you with eternal hellfire.

>Stop acting like there is not a generally agreed upon set of ideas in atheism
Please quote a single sentence of mine showing this.
>Moreover, you've spent the majority of your intellectual energy arguing against only one religion, Christianity, instead of all religions.
Clearly you can't read, cultist. " I will never understand how anyone can look at the stonings in Islam". I hate all cults, just like I hate all liars and all thugs.

Then what is your point? Are youou going to admit Islam is a pedophilic barbaric cult or are you going to backtrace again and try to convince us religion can work in this one specific way? Rude, stupid, cultist.

I was clearly referencing atheism as a group.
Don't act like you're innocent of this.

Sure, that's why you quoted me. Stupid cunt.

I defend one single doctrine of stoning homos, are you that fucking dense ?
Religion works, christian civilization has risen above all else, capitalism as you noticed is primal and never managed to produce advanced civilization because it promotes degeneracy.
Capitalism and ancap is only a meme without suitable religion.

And my point is that you need to be 18yo to post on this board.

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user, "myth" doesn't make it untrue per se; they have very real and deep meaning to them. Understanding has been hollowed out to where it either literally happened or it's worthless. It's disgusting how the language of the ancients has been perverted and mistaught. You also sound like a lapsed Catholic

lot's of kids posting today

Clearly reading comprehension isn't your thing. Perhaps you need to stick to the writings of your hypocritical Jewess who spent her 99% of her life arguing for selfishness, yet died while living off the public dole.

I'm sure a big-brained nigga like you can justify those mental gymnastics.

You spout religion works yet you aren't even willing to mention the fact that Islam is a barbaric cult, meaning you probably like it, unlike most here. Capitalism is the only way to achieve prosperity. And par the course, the cultist defends the opposite.

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Oh, now are you going to tell me you were just talking about a group again? Nobody cares about Ayn Rand here, moron.

>most doesn't like Islam here therefore everything you say is wrong

It is the fastest way to achieve prosperity in christian dominated country with intelligent and self aware nation.
Capitalism is not magic,it needs to meet certain conditions to work well. Christianity takes care of number of requirements and that's the only reason that american christian society could use capitalism so efficient.
Nowadays with wave of atheism,idiocracy and destruction of nation capitalism is failing us.

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The amount of backtracking you are doing is astonishing. It's like you have the memory of a goldfish.
>capitalism never managed to produce advanced civilizations
>It is the fastest way to achieve prosperity if XYZ
By the way, Hong Kong is the most capitalist country and 63% consider themself irreligious. Moron.

You must be 18 years to post here bucko

CAPITALISM ITSELF
I'm starting to think you are actual retard
Hong Kong is city state, it's not a real state, it's also tax heaven and gateway to numerous asian tigers.

>I DIDNT SAY THAT IM IN ALL CAPS SO I LOOK CONCERNED
Here is a direct quote. I don't know what you get out of outing yourself as a troll or a liar but you have severe brain damage either way.
>capitalism as you noticed is primal and never managed to produce advanced civilization because it promotes degeneracy.
No "itself" or anything.

Now put bricks together
>capitalism as you noticed is primal and never managed to produce advanced civilization because it promotes degeneracy.
>Capitalism is not magic,it needs to meet certain conditions to work well. Christianity takes care of number of requirements and that's the only reason that american christian society could use capitalism so efficient.

See,that's how people with three digits IQ put things

The Bible can be demonstrably proved to be of supernatural origins.

>Oh, and by the way, you can't be an atheist and believe in the state; because statism is a religion.

If you consider every belief system a religion, then sure statism is a religion, but so Anarcho-Capitalism.

>Every religion is just a cult. Definitions don't change just because something is popular.

Cults are just outlier societies where social phenomena that is present in every human society becomes extreme and exaggerated.

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>I also backtracked here too! Gotcha!

Ooh, please demonstrate.
I want to learn why I'm wrong.

>Arbitration and symbolism are inherently faith based

No... The "state" isn't based around some sort of baseless belief, States have physical bodies in power for one reason or another. People don't worship governments (unless we're talking MAYBE some strongly authoritarian dictatorships) their importance is supposed to be recognized because societies need structure and guidance to at least a very liberal degree.

I notice AnCaps love using this argument but funnily enough, if "The State" is a strictly faith based thing, then explain to me how property ownership isn't?

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The biggest joke here is the fact that you consider yourself smart and you can't even fight the simplest points.
What a waste of everybody's time.

You are missing the point entirely. Nobody ever inferred that every belief system is a religion. Statism is a cult because there is devotion and veneration given to a diety, government, that is supposed to have powers for good that no one else has, and which has rights no one else has.
>Only government can keep the streets clean!
>Only government can build roads!
etc.

>given to a diety, government

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youtube.com/results?search_query=proof that the bible is true chuck missler
You can find materials to start with even on youtube.

It is. It's based around the belief that infringing on rights is only good if some superhuman diety called government does it. It has commandments against disobeying, and its members assume the particular figure has powers no one else has. It is a cult.

religion and politics are the same thing, a struggle for Masters to hold Slaves captive. Are you an NPC take the NPC test today.

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Surely you're all aware that only through gnosis can you attain salvation yes?

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You might as well believe in cuckolding because there's just as much evidence it leads to enlightenment as that gobble de gook.

I don't seem to recall anybody, in this day and age, ever praying to or offering sacrifice to the state as if it was some kind of supernatural spirit.

let alone this being a common practice and belief.

But I am answering to a cuck, how could I not believe in cuckolding user?

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If you don't think the government is a diety, then do you also think the government can't have rights others don't have?

you only have the rights that you take by force

Sorry, that's not what defines a cult. Read the OP.

Seems like you have a really particular definition of a cult, which is not based on the actual phenomena; and that just happens to include everything you don't like.

By that logic I have the right to rob you as long as I get away with it. Nobody defines a right that way and Im not going to play stupid word games and english lessons with you.

So where's your research son? You're here telling everybody that they are wrong and I don't see any research nor credentials.

For example, pic related, this guy, in his book, presents some research done to prove the supernatural, he supports his point with motherfucking evidence.

But you? Nope, you just make some wild claims here son.

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>credentials
Perhaps reddyt is more your take then. Small minds discuss people.

>Replies to the wrong post

Anyway...
That's a comically ridiculous comparison.
Nobody puts that much devotion into a government. They exist because an organization that is required (at least on paper) to run a collective efficiently is necessary. People don't worship government, it is a tool not a "deity".
Your understanding of people's relationship with their government is juvenile

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sure if you got away with it then you self impose your own right to do so. You're just an NPC and using a per-programmed language and words to react to my comment.

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"Rights" are just as arbitrary a concept as a government

>its not
>it is
Anything backing up your claim that I replied to the wrong post? Anything at all?
>Its "necessary" that I take your money and boss you around, I am authority and I have the power to do better with your money than yourself
Sure sounds like a cult to me. And you are just another stupid, rude, indoctrinated member of said cult.

Thread over, the OP is just talking silly stupid things without evidence while there are books that quote science proving the supernatural.

Rights are an abstract and universal concept. Whether I enjoy it infinitely or not, it is an infringement on your rights for me to torture you. Otherwise you would enjoy it, but then it is not torture.

Nobody would have to get utterly fucking destroyed if they would just argue with me instead of trying to insult an anonymous stranger by the way.

>Anything backing up your claim that I replied to the wrong post? Anything at all?
The fact that you replied to one post and addressed another?

Anyway....

Balancing budgets and organizing distribution is no easy task. If somebody else wants to undergo it and proves capable then that should be their job.
And your definition of "cult" really ignores the emotional devotion cult followers historically had. Do you really think that only ancaps think the government is shit?
Plenty of people dislike or are indifferent to government, doesn't mean they support it being dismantled.
And I would like to see an answer to my last statement in the post you apparently intentionally replied to.

people are brainwashed into thinking man made laws are morality itself. As if Man somehow elevated themselves to God status.

>The fact that you replied to one post and addressed another?
How? Please oh please quote me where I address the wrong person.
>Plenty of people dislike or are indifferent to government, doesn't mean they support it being dismantled.
In other words they follow a different diety, religion, or cult.
>And I would like to see an answer to my last statement in the post you apparently intentionally replied to.
Which one? Are you just gish-galloping now on purpose?

>taoism
>acting in accordance with the nature of the universe
>cult
Seriously, just kys. You obviously don't belong here.

White People have spent so much time invested in their cult, its embarrassing for them to admit it's fake.

That's one baseless conclusion and 2 counts of laughable reading comprehension.

For someone who self proclaims to be "utterly fucking destroying" everyone that's a bit unbecoming

So no quotes and you can't even clarify which post. Thanks.

I feel as though that would just be an insult to your intelligence given you're confident you replied to the right post to begin with but if you really need your hand held just say so

>I notice AnCaps love using this argument but funnily enough, if "The State" is a strictly faith based thing, then explain to me how property ownership isn't?

You assume me not debunking your entire gish gallop equates to not addressing the right person. So do you have anything to prove I replied to the wrong person yet?

and to answer your question, its pretty fucking obvious who owns what. Not whether or not there is a God with a beard or a flying spaghetti monster.

All those lucky men, dinning in Valhalla

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>There is no religious veneration
key word of your argument is religious
>relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality or deity
lets scratch the last or, cause its one of the other, we know the second one doesnt go cause its a-theism

>relating to or manifesting faithful devotion to an acknowledged ultimate reality

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*one OR the other

Atheism is simply a lack of belief. It does not acknowledge the existence of any "ultimate reality". Although I admit lots of people assume atheism means distinctly gnostic atheism.

A "lack of belief" is not a passive position as the wording imply it is, we tend to think of "lacking" as an empty space where something normally is, but in this sense its an active lacking, its a conscious rejection of filling the space. The passive position is agnosticism.

And even then, it can be argued that agnosticism is a strong position of devotion to empiricism

Checked. Also, be religious fundamentalist. It's not a bad strat.

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>what is causation vs correlation

>There's no official "all go to hell" religion
interesting business opportunity

I took ultimate reality to mean after life, so I would not consider empiricism to be a religion.What do you mean by it being a rejection of filling the space? There are several theories on the after-life, many that do not even require a God or Religion. But either way, agnostic atheists can imagine the after life without making it a religion or being 100% assured that its true. Note I said you can't be an atheist, not that you can't be agnostic in the OP.

*after life or super naturalism

Holyfuck, mindblow

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Imo ultimate reality doesnt mean after life, it means how reality is, any notion of what is and isnt real would be a notion of ultimate reality, the point here is that a religion would be anything that entails a firm belief in a specific version of what the Ultimate Reality™ is

>What do you mean by it being a rejection of filling the space?
Say you have a squared hole in a wall. There are many different cubes that could go there, but you have none. We can then say you are lacking the cube that goes in the square.
But this can mean:

a) you don't find a cube to put in the square hole, (or are undecided in which one to use to the point of inaction)
b) you reject putting a cube in it for whatever reason, and leave the hole there as an endorsement of said reason, the lack of cube becomes itself a symbolic cube, a "cube of nothingness"

b) is an active lacking of the cube, a) is passive

I wasnt responding to the OP by the way, i believe statism is a religion too, the metaphysics of it is the immanentization of the eschaton, or babel tower story in symbolic terms