Jow Forums goes to the psychiatrist

is your psychiatrist roller girl? does she still have massive daddy issues?

>The fact is that I'm not a functional sane man as of today. I need help to overcome my problems, unironically.

you sound perfectly lucid to me. relax.

>Lads, when you say anxiety, what do you mean exactly?

In my personal case the anxiety is mostly associated with fear and being extermely uncomfortable.

Also the anxiety provokes effects on my body, I have stomach pain and extremely difficult digestion (I've undergone surgery 4 months ago to fix reflux), I have headaches, accelerated heartbeat and so on...but the most painful thing I've experienced this year is that I started sweating to levels that shouldn't even be possible and this made me mad.

I had a breakdown one morning when I was going to work, I was in the train like every morning and I started sweating so badly (it was february) I had everything wet soaked in sweat. There's nothing I can do to avoid this, this also happen when I go to a restaurant and eat...I start sweating and I become anxious because I'm far from home and I can't go out with wet clothes because it's cold and I'll be uncomfortable and I can catch a flu or something.

It's not possible living like this, I spent the latest 4 months in my house and I've become afraid to leave my prison.

I was diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder. It's honestly hard to describe, because 99% of the time you're anxious for no apparent reason, even if things are going well. Here were my symptoms:
> Difficulty breathing - Feels like you're not breathing enough with every breath, so you take big breaths every time and end up with too much oxygen in the blood stream.
> Muscle pains and tightness, especially around the neck and throat in my case
>Above point lead to me developing Pseudodysphagia, which was a fucking nightmare
>Hot and cold flashes, and extreme sweating, especially the palms
>Dizziness and constantly feeling of vertigo
>Difficulty concentrating
>Insomnia
>and a whole lot more

You’re not mentally ill
You feel like shit because you are a loser and have accomplished nothing
Find a skill set and become the best at it
You will magically no longer be depressed

Wew lad I have 5 of these things.

Hot and cold flashes are a nightmare...

If I start to write all my problems you'll end up agreeing that the best thing to do for me is euthanasia.

Forgot to add, you got this user
It seems impossible but if you keep chipping away you’ll be surprised at how much fulfillment life starts giving you
Godspeed

Most normal psychiatrists are actually logical and rational people.

Avoid psychologists.

Oh forgot to mention, to be diagnosed with GAD you need to have suffered symptoms constantly for over 6 months. If it comes and goes it's probably not GAD.

Wrong.
Psychiatrists exist in a system that is based around diagnosis as defined in the DSM
Literally anyone will fall under a multitude of diagnoses covered in the DSM because of its kikery
So you are guaranteed to get pushed pills

T. Wasted 5 years on Depakote, in hell, bc of psychiatry

I've been also diagnosed with dysthymia

You cannot over emphasise how benefitial physical exercise is for mental health.

I know it's hard to make that first trip to the gym or to yoga or martial arts so begin by making time every day to go for a walk. Couple of miles, fresh air.

At the same time cut out all the shit in your diet. You put cheap fuel in your car you get shitty lethargic performance. Exactly the same with your body.

You'll be amazed how quickly the depression begins to dissipate. Exercise will enable a good nights sleep so you start feeling refreshed, feeling positive, ready to start making some small steps towards your goals.

Once you start feeling more based, more Chad like, get yourself to the gym, get a bike, get some new clothes, decent haircut, then girls start noticing you.

poco a poco my friend. Good luck

Aw, that sucks. I've never dealt with depression so I can't offer any advice there user :(

this is the best advice you're going to get

>I have stomach pain and extremely difficult digestion
Ugh I get that just as a general inflammatory thing. Fucking hate it. Same sort shit happening in my brain inflates my ADD

Sounds alot like what I experienced. I don't know if this is different from what you experienced, but I was feeling 100% normal until one night where I had a panic attack out of the blue. From then on I had extreme anxiety 24/7. Then it felt as if all the adrenaline burnt me out one day, and my system sort of crashed and I lost interest in literally everything, even in basic things such as eating. Guess that is what actual depression feels like.

Anyway, since it came so sudden and I had so many physical symptoms as well, especially muscle cramps and tightness (also in the throat & neck), temperature irregularities, insomnia, etc., I figured that there just HAD to be something physically wrong with me. I'd been on a restrictive diet for years up till this point because I wanted to fix my eczema/skin issues, asthma, allergies, and more (which I did manage to fix), so I had a hunch that it might've had something to do with my restrctive diet.

Long story short: correcting nutritional deficiencies and circadian regulation can literally bring your mental health back to baseline.
I guess the above can be of interest to you as well.

Anyway, AMA if you want to.

This advice is literally equal to the "just b urself"-meme.

Depending on how broken your body is, exercise won't do jack shit. You really sound like you have absolutely no idea.

Thanks user.

6 years ago I got myself a dog because I wanted it as a "teraphy pet" (of course mainly as a family pet) so I could go outside and take her for a walk finding new people at the park and so on.

It worked somehow but coincidentally niggers happened along the decadence of my neighbourhood, so now when I go outside with my dog I can spot drug dealers (refugees and niggers), gypsies and shit so I'm constantly nervous because I keep not one but 10 eyes behind by neck.

When I'm at work (when I was...) I was nervous because my mother was out with my dog so I couldn't stop about thinking something bad could've happened to both her and the dog (months ago three gipsies beat an old man and HIS DOG to steal a gold chain) literally outside my house.

I don't even live in a shithole anons, I live in fucking Milan.

Eh, the ones I've seen have been rational and logical, and were loathe to label me with anything.

Yes, it was exactly the same for me. I've always had extremely mild symptoms, but one day I had a full blown panic attack and honestly thought I was having a heart attack. Ever since then it got worse and worse, I spent pretty much the entire month after the attack in bed. I quit my job and barely left my room.

So what I wrote was from personal experience.

I didn't say it was easy but I came back from the brink and I don't think I'm a remarkable human being.

>TFW bipolar, been depressed like 9 times
AMA faggot, there's not any type of depression I'm not familiar with. Might have useful advice.

Try experimenting with your sexuality before you go see a doctor. The first time I felt a fully erect cock in my mouth I was saved.

>KYS
*Kms

Actually it feels good to know this

>muscle cramps and tightness (also in the throat & neck)

because I've been suffering from a muscular "intra bone" pain since I was 18 and not a single medic and medical exam have explained that and lately I've also been suffering from throat pain and larynx problems which I still need to understand if are related to anxiety or if they have something other to do with reflux and shit.

I guess hypochondria is another skill I developed because of anxiety.

Mario don't a do it. So many spaghetti to live for.

I don't know what to ask apart from the question in the OP. :(

I just don't want that personal and political ideas of my doctor could influence their behaviour in helping me.

I know they can't report me or anything.

I know I like women user, there's no further need to even seek experience for that.

Based and redpilled

I hear you bro.

I live in Manchester, not the worst bit but not where the Premier League footballers live neither!

I do Krav Maga (yeah yeah yeah jew jitsu - I don't give a fuck about all the jew haters on Jow Forums)

Changed my life. It's not like I get into fights but I'm confident, I know how to defend myself in urban situations and I think it radiates off you. I honestly think would be criminals (i.e. niggers and gypsy trash) look at me and think "nah, maybe not"

Anxiety is all about fear brother so you gotta make the choice not to be ruled by fear and like I said it's baby steps, little bit every day.

Martial arts user, you'll meet a lot of based people (girls and boys) as well.

A fellow Manc :)
There's a few JuJitsu places near me, and my brothers wife is a trainer (has some sort of black and white belt or something idk). Maybe I should consider asking her about it.

I've seen lots of replies here and most are bs. As a doctor myself i'd advise you to book a clinical psychotherapist who is able to also diagnose you (normal psychologists cant dx) and is going to converse with you about anything you throw at him/her. He will help you develop coping mechanisms and understand what is the root of your depression along with the triggers of your anxiety and any of its attacks/crises. Stay with the cl.psychologist first and then you can ask , after a couple of cognitive behavioural therapy sessions , if you should see a psychiatrist and/or require medication. SSRI's like setraline work wonders , benzo's like Xanax numb you down like taking 2-3 beers but also work wonders when one finds their best tolerated dose in which they can function properly. Only be afraid of the medication once you need them to function in general , and this is the outcome of people who dont try to do anything to improve themselves and their QoL thus waiting for the pills to do everything for them. You have to apply yourself into your treatment as well , dont forget about that.
Sumup - cl.psychologist first and then maaybe a psychiatrist if you both decide that you need one. Imo you dont need pills , maybe a light temporary treatment with benzos for a month maximum (because i dont know you). Regular psychotherapy sessions should be the thing to go for you.
May God help you find your way

>I quit my job and barely left my room.
I was lucky that I was at the end of Uni when this happened - not too many classes etc, and had a lot of time set aside for my master's thesis. But I also was extremely isolated during this time. I spent most of my time researching my anxiety issue while I postponed my master's for 9 months. Through trial and error I started to figure out what was going wrong.

When a person has anxiety issues, specific nutritional deficiencies are extremely common:

- Electrolyte imbalance, specifically magnesium deficiency and sometimes calcium problems
- b12 and folate. If you have digestive issues this can be a real possibility as decreased intrinsic factor will fuck up your absorption capabilities.
- Vitamin D.
- Iron deficiency / anemia / ferritin problems

You're both describing very PHYSICAL symptoms that are accompanying your MENTAL symptoms, so I don't think you should discard the posibility that something is PHYSICALLY "broken" in your body, somethign that can be corrected, again physically, with the right approach.

Also exercise and reading works wonders. Martial arts or gym should be the best options. Jiujitsu could be the best for you

Is that Heather Graham?

Anyway, no, never tell a shrink about anything Jow Forums related or they’ll, at best, drug you up or at worst, lock you up.

>I do Krav Maga
is that some kind of dick sucking teqnique?

I did see my GP and have blood work taken, there was nothing wrong with me physically that could be related to my anxiety sadly.

Te gustan los maricones chamo? un beso kek

99% of docs /psychs aren't gonna do anything but talk with you and then medicate you. You'll only be treating symptoms and that's it. Some people can manage with this approach while others eventually neck themselves or go completely off the rails.

Fuck you are so wrong
He gave great advice. Exercise is essential to feeling mentally healthy. He even gave a good stepping stone by advising that OP start with walks and then progressively add more.

I think it's often a dietary problem and ssris are a meme lazy doctors throw at you all willy nilly

Shine a flashlight down your throat in front of a mirror and try to pull your tongue down to the floor of your mouth to see as far down your throat as possible (may take some practice/exercise). Do you have a second sharp tongue overlapping your primary tongue? If you do, start paying attention to its state during your episodes of anxiety. If it stiffens during moments of high anxiety and drives the discomfort of your throat you may find some relief in what I call "the Tongue of Truth":

Find some place where nobody can overhear you and speak aloud the truths that you feel incapable of voicing in the presence of others.

Sometimes the Tongue of Truth is more effective when voiced to another person; if the psychopharmajew makes you nervous just pay some homeless person $20 to listen to you speak for 20 minutes uninterrupted.

It was my GP who inevitably prescribed me SSRI's, not my therapist. I never take them though, I have like 100 boxes of Sertraline in my cupboard kek

Unironically this

33 years old boomer, been depressed since I was 17. I never went to the psychiatrist because I always assumed being depressed is just having a harshly real opinion on life, people, society in general, so taking pills to heal depression is literally like taking the bluepill, you're basically numbing yourself into believing we're not getting niggered and the world is fucked. How far am I from this assumption?

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Thanks for the detailed answer.

I considered martial arts but I need to work on my "fear of people" before even considering to go to a gym, but of course I'll discuss this with the doc.

>Is that Heather Graham?
Yes

I did exams, many of them, and even the most recent blood exams showed that there's nothing wrong in me physically.

I also did an NMR because of headaches and sadly :^) not a single brain tumor was found to explain the root of this shit.

Without being a doctor I'm basically convinced that it's the je-...it's the anxiety/depression causing me these problems especially at my relatively young age.

There's Krav classes in Manchester and it's much more urban situation based, real life type shit as opposed to standing in line punching air.

But anything self defense or boxing is better than sitting in playing video games and jerking off twice a day and that's been my journey ;)

>tfw pure O OCD
Where my ocd bros at?

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Much obliged user

You prob just need magnesium

Don’t discount the power of a good vitamin stack. Experiment in a scientific manor, add/subtract one at a time, take notes on how you feel. It’s worth your health.
Also quit sucking doctor cock, you have to realize that taking your health into your own hands is better than a doctor who took one semesters worth of class and probably saw one or two powerpojnt slides on whatever ailment you actually have

philosophy has your answers, not drugging your mind

The only thing docs can force you to here (assuming it's similar in pastaland) is to get admitted and treated if they judge you to be a danger to yourself or others.
With your symptoms, try to avoid meds. In fact generally try to avoid meds, but at the same time take them if you actually need it. Mood stabilizers changed my life for the better.
As for general anxiety, exercise does help, but go for cardio. When I have anxiety during depressive periods I get a lot out of running/biking/swimming as hard as I can to release some of that pent up fear and let my body try to get away from whatever thing it's imagining is trying to kill me.
CBT is nice, too. Give that a shot.
Consider benzos as a last-resort thing to help you get past panic attacks, but limit it to at the most 2 times a month, ideally as little as possible. They're great at what they do, but addictive as shit and with huge potential for abuse. Kind of like opiates.
Try doing something you'd do if you weren't depressed/anxious. Just, small steps. Get outside, start moving towards some event or whatever you want to go to. If you decide half-way you can't go through with it, fine - you still tried, and that's great. Maybe next time you'll get there and have to leave after 5 minutes, but that's progress. Getting better takes time, and if you think you'll magically recover two days after finding the right treatment you're setting yourself up for disappointment.
Good luck, Spaghettibro. I believe in you.

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I actually used to put magnesium in my bath, flakes of the stuff. Not done that in years though.

Are you at least getting better?

Oh, right: Get enough vitamin D. Don't know if sunlight is an issue in Italy during the winter, but lack of it fucks up my moods.

Honestly m80 it sounds like you don't know what it actually means when your mind breaks apart.

You might've been feeling a little blue and low on confidence. I'm not sure we're talking baout the same thing here.
No shit, same exact story with me. Completely fine on paper. You can't trust all those numbers at all - let me explain to you why.
The standard for deficiency is often set quite arbitrarily. So in Japan if you have a b12 status of 300 units, then you'll be diagnosed as deficient, while in the USA you need to drop below 100 units. This is just one example but it is valid in regards to many other categories of measurement.

But the real issue is with electrolyte measurement. The problem is that they measure extracellular fluids where less than 1% of the minerals are located. To get a more accurate measurement you need to go intracellular, which no standard doctors do. This is not just me saying it, many other doctors are talking about this as being an issue.

I don't know user, I see psychologists since I was 2 years old and I'm still broken as of today.

The last time I went to a psychologist I kept telling him how I found it difficult to even talk to people IRL let alone even manage to speak to a person I didn't know at university.

He kept telling me try to do it, try to go outside, bla bla bla. It was all like this.

I felt it was useless and also I felt like he was fucking with me (and my family's money since they were paying 50€ per hour) so I stopped going there and he gave me a piece of paper on which it was written I suffer from dystimia and I didn't want to do anything to overcome it.

Well, it never really goes away but I'm a lot better at managing it now. It doesn't incapacitate me like it used to. I can function normally, and the people around me have no idea I have anxiety.

i went to a psychiatrist once and it was terrible. legit did nothing for me. i got some pills, didn't even bother taking them, and worked on myself instead. i eventually figured out the problem and, despite not really wanting to do it, cut it out of my life and my depression has since lessened.

most people are not depressed because of a "chemical imbalance". most people are depressed because of the inability to reconcile their own beliefs with reality. your "black pilled" nature is why you are depressed. you cannot change any of this. get over it, move on, and if you really cannot move on, then yes you need therapy. society has always been like this. humanity has always been like this. there is no reason to make yourself seem crazy or get depressed over the nature of things.

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This is the best description of the brain shrinking field I've ever heard

Hmm interesting. What would you recommend then. Going to my GP and asking for a more thorough test?

I like your lady doctor.

You just say you are depressed because you see the world going into a very dark place.
If doc asks for a little more tell them a little bit only.

You should try to relax, get out of pol, enjoy the fresh air and get a dog for you to take care of.

Go to a psychatrist and your neurochimichal balance will be ruined forever.
I warned you.

I went to one, she was a recently divorced single mom who probably had more problems than I do.
She stuck me on all different types of medication which just made me feel like reality was fantasy then said my only alternative was electric shock therapy.
The last 2 visits she started hitting on me then was telling me that it's normal for me to have sexual fantasies about her since she's my psychiatrist, I stopped going after that.
My only regret is that I didn't fuck her first because she was thicc af

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I'm not. I've cured myself of so many ailments and exercise is such a small part of it that it can be neglected and you will still be successful as long as you maintain a proper circadian rhythm.

Again, I don't think you realize how far down the drain and broken some people are, to the point where your mitochondria can barely produce ATP necesary for the remedy you prescribe in the first place.

Try doing something you'd do if you weren't depressed/anxious. Just, small steps. Get outside, start moving towards some event or whatever you want to go to. If you decide half-way you can't go through with it, fine - you still tried, and that's great. Maybe next time you'll get there and have to leave after 5 minutes, but that's progress. Getting better takes time, and if you think you'll magically recover two days after finding the right treatment you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

I never stopped doing this, I always try or force myself to try doing - at some degree - things I find difficult to do. There are many things other people do easily that requires for me high amounts of energy to be done, a lot of thinking and organization in order to avoid and find everything that could go wrong and how to fix/control it.

Since at this point I realized I can't just forcing myself to "improve" without help, then I think it's just time to seek for help because I can't find a solution by myself.

>Get housing, get job, find healthy uses of time.
>Attempt to obtain these
>Found all of the above, but cannot stay in them due to mental difficulty

Literally the ONLY time you should ever get a psychiatrist. You left your job and NOW you are getting a psychiatrist? Sounds like your priorities are fucked m8.

If commies were only based and good natured as this one

Don't reveal your full power level, but if you do explain something then do it gradually, and with lots of facts.

Do NOT reveal power level. It may be misconstrued as being a danger to society, whereby, according to the law of the land, he/she is bound by law to report you to the authorities. Meds and shit is wholly up to you and your psychiatrist - my guess is that it will help you greatly - as long as it *ain't* SSRI's.
GL user, you'll be fine. You came here instead of KYS, didn't you?

yfw all these dumb faggots took the shitposting board seriously and are now frightened of seeking medical care
oh ho ho ho no no no no no

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Never reveal your political views to a psychiatrist or a doctor.

By all means, talk about the issues you're having but I'd strongly recommend against spurging out your politics.

I can't speak about doctors, I can speak about real people though (including close relatives). Women won't ever know how a man feels, and normalfags have no idea what it feels like to not give a fuck about anything, they go "if others can why can't you". It's basically "just have fun" applied to psyche, a load of crap. They either give you pills to numb your brain, or tell you to do things you don't feel like doing, which doesn't help you figure out why you don't feel like doing them. If you explain to them you honestly don't see the point past doing the most elementary things, they look at you like an alien.

When I got my first job over a decade ago, my first thought wasn't

>I can't wait to buy all sorts of shit now

But

>No matter what I don't have to fall for the car jew because I don't want shackles that force me to stay here

Do you know sòyboys? Good, most of them would be on pills if it wasn't for the open mouth facade they put all the time.

Which is exactly what happened because a year worth of 60h working weeks later.

So pol why hace you not killed yoursel....oh look at the time we have to see you next week

>cbt
She stepped on your balls?

roller girl makes my dick diamonds. would love to be lost in space with that poon.

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nr 1. Never see a female psych or a psych of another race.
nr 2. Say what you want, just don't be racist or imply violent intention.

If you're overthinking, CBT might help. Try spending 30 minutes just thinking through all the possible things you can do and their consequences for whatever nightmare scenario is occupying your head. Helped me in the sense that I found out that even the worst case scenario was usually something I could deal with, which calmed me down some.

And just keep doing the little things, but try to see it as small victories that you did anything instead of failing to do something. Takes a bit of conscious effort, but it helps.

Neck yourself, Muhammed.

kek

>The last 2 visits she started hitting on me then was telling me that it's normal for me to have sexual fantasies about her since she's my psychiatrist, I stopped going after that.

This is unironically one of the reason why I have a little fear of female doctors, I feel like I can't really open myself with a female psychologist because I could be afraid of telling her something. (for example: since forever I have a hard on for milfs and probably I would have fantasies on her too)

>My only regret is that I didn't fuck her first because she was thicc af

Agreed. This is one of these "things that only happens in porn movies" moments.

I don't know what to say, it's not a matter of priorities.

I left my job because I was exploding, day after day it was worse and at the end of the day I just went home after work and cry in the shower then feel like shit because "oh fuck it's already 9 PM I only have 2 hours of doing nothing then I have to go to sleep and start the pain session over again".

This shit ate me from the inside, I don't think you could understand if you haven't tried it but then again I'm not trying to convince you I'm right.

I just always think about how she replaced two much hotter brunettes, twice.
Once in Twin Peaks, then in Austin Powers

it sounds like most of you are about to do exactly that

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I ended up that way myself for a little while, couldn't get in a car, couldn't go see a movie, etc.
Then I started exercising, not go run on a treadmill or lift, I went boxing. After getting over the initial body shock to the system, my anxiety levels dropped to almost zero, not totally gone but at a level that I imagine your average person has anxiety. Worked wonders for my mental and physical health, as soon as I stopped due to work commitments I've slowly started back into the hell of anxiety that I had been dealing with.
Back in the gym now for three weeks and everything is starting to course correct again, so while anxiety may be a mental issue, there are ways to physically deal with it that not only help your mental state but also help your physical as well.

I was on depakote to try to prevent migraines. Only made a difference for a few months so I stopped taking it. The only side effect I had from it was never feeling full after a meal.

They are kinda useless. Act as fucking nannies and pull kindergarten tier manipulation on you thinking that shaming you will change your behaviour. It's super rare that a shrink has proper real world experience they just pull crap out of their ass like a self-help guru based on Ivory tower mental masturbation.
Meds I tried were several types of ssri that made me crazier. Antipsychotics that made me morbidly obese and impotent like the ssri. Benzos that stop working after a while. And beta blockers that are also shit in the long run. Now I am occasionally on a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, again very mild results.
Basically you have to change your whole life to feel better or kys to get over it. And nobody helps you nor likes you, everyone just wants your fucking money no matter in which country you live in.

>This is unironically one of the reason why I have a little fear of female doctors
Just tell them.
They've probably already heard anything you could tell them, but they should take it well that you'd be more comfortable with a doctor your own gender - otherwise they're a shit doctor and you'll want a different one anyway.

Yes, but don't get your hopes up for discovering anything revolutionary. But it's a good start because there will be several useful values. You can start by ruling out anemia, b12, and vitamin D - these markers are pretty valid according to the current standard. All your electrolyte values are useless through a standard test though. Also check for inflammatory markers as some mental health issues are actually associated with inflammation in the brain and gut. C-reactive protein is a good marker and homocysteine will check if you have methylation problems, which can also be a root cause.
But user here is right.
Magnesium and calcium was HUGE for my recovery, but not in supplemental form.

Testing for defieciencies is easy to do yourself: eat more of said nutrient as assess how you feel. I would discourage the use of most supplements, but I've heard it work for some people.

All I did was drink a good amount if the best quality milk-kefir I could find and do epsom salt (magnesium sulfate) foot soaks. This is so easy to test and it'll only cost you like 5-10 quid.

Get a tub with lukewarm water (important for transdermal absorption), add ½ - 1 deciliter of epsom salts and soak it up for an hour. When I did this magnesium+calcium combo I could actually sleep though the night for the first time in months. Btw, oral supplements just don't work for me, idk why, so I can't recommend using those to check for deficiencies. They gave me hyper/hypo symptoms.

Just go there and blackpill/redpill the shit out of them and leave. Dont even bother with their bullshit.

Yeah, not sure if having a male psychiatrist would've been better, but over here they are just pill pushers.

Go in, spill the pill, leave.

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