Change my mind.
Global Warming/Climate Change is a doomsday cult
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It's a wealth redistribution scheme while also stifling western economic growth. nothing more.
It's also an excuse to create millions of fraudulent taxpayer funded "environmental scientist" jobs.
agreed.
>also
So All of the Above..??!!
You are correct. They are attempting to put in place a global governance to control and regulate the worlds industry under the guise of "saving the planet". Carbon tax is a tool to enforce their will.
pretty much, however it was incorrect to say 'nothing more'. it's a multifaceted attack on western nations. notice how China is rarely mentioned?
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That’s quite densely packed informative rich statement, can you do it with 50% less words?
Liberals understand Global Warming it's anti-western in nature, that's why they are so insistent it's real.
Yeah reminds me of the good old times when this place wasn’t filled with shitskin subhumans
Only a minority of retards actually thinks that climate change is our doom. The real problem is that it does irreversible damage to nature and will probably be more expensive than transitioning away from fossil fuels as soon as possible.
The climate change cult makes the bold assumption that our current temperature is the best possible temperature. Why is a warmer climate a bad thing? Do you find a greater abundance of life in the tropics or the poles?
It's mostly NPCs who care about the environment, plus a few bankers and politicians who want money and power, plus an institutional prejudice of scientists observing a real trend but stuck in a feedback loop of politicized grant money where you get good boy points for overestimating the trend.
>makes the bold assumption that our current temperature is the best possible
No it doesn't. It claims that changing the equilibrium causes a lot of damage and costs.
Damage and costs to who? What does that even mean?
And what evidence is there that earth is a finely balanced system that can be disrupted and cause chaos? More pure assertion.
Increasing temperatures makes stronger storms, and the geological record shows hurricanes powerful enough to hurl boulders during Earth's previous hothouse periods. Does that sound good to you?
right wingers dont want to deal with the leftists solution so act like retards and just deny its not real
even your beloved Hitler cared about the environment
Depends where the storms hit, and which communities gain and lose from the inevitable wealth transfer.
>Strong evidence that climate science deniers are actually mentally retarded.
Storms get their strength from temperature differences, a warmer climate would lessen the difference between the tropics and the poles. This "climate change causes storms" lie is a feeble attempt to link this theory to real world consequences.
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>Hurr durr you're retarded because science
That's about all you ecotards can come up with in the way of an argument. Muh science. Your science is junk science.
Appreciating and protecting the beauty of nature and the climate change hoax are two very different things.
You fucking imbecile, I'm not denying anything. I'm asking you to clarify what damages and costs you're talking about, and who specifically you think will be on the losing end of this wealth transfer.
Firstly, if the tropics and the poles both warm, the temperature difference doesn't change.
Secondly, climate change causes changes in air and water currents allowing for greater mixture between the poles and the equator - and even across the equator. This means that the temperature differences are actually GREATER, because the air is moving greater distances.
Thirdly, warmer air can hold more water and is more energetic. This makes for stronger storms, even when the temperature difference isn't as great.
Lastly, you are clearly too uninformed on this topic to actually discuss it.
The fastest winds in the solar system are on the planet Neptune where its -150 degrees. The surface of Venus is 400 degrees and there is never more than a slight breeze. Temperature has nothing to do with the strength of storms. It's just a desperate lie from the climate change con artists.
>wealth transfer
I said exactly nothing about wealth transfer, you illiterate moron.
Neptune is a gas giant and Venus's atmosphere is soup. Fuck off.
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Real or not I say fuck it. As long as Africa and China are pumping out babies and carbon I say don't lift a finger. Trying to clean up after and excuse savages is ultimately worse.
>I said exactly nothing about wealth transfer, you illiterate moron.
>causes a lot of damage and costs
this is literally what you wrote you shit brain NPC.
I'm in the "it's impossible to stop, so we should focus on adaptation" camp. Forget trying to reduce carbon emissions. We need to start building concrete bunker homes and prepare to farm corn on the Alaskan frontier.
>concrete bunker homes
>corn on the Alaskan frontier
You just took off the Poe's Law mask here fren.
Why don't you do something really noble and make yourself room temperature and carbon neutral.
It's a much healthier attitude than the constant guilt trip that wypipo burn too much gas. That way you're taking control over the situation. Most houses are built like shit anyway, which isn't global warming's fault.
It's impossible to stop because it never started. You'll sleep so much better at night when you realize pretty much every environmental scare campaign of the past 50 years was complete horseshit. When I was a kid they told me the amazon rain forest would be gone by 1985! Acid rain would destroy the forests of Europe! The hole in the ozone layer would make it impossible to leave your house without a spacesuit! etc etc etc. It's all lies. When you realize environmentalism is a lie it makes life so much more simple.
You are actually illiterate. Fascinating.
Hi NPC fren, please tell me your most "literate" explanation of how damages and costs don't transfer wealth.
Say I come into your room and I burn a bottle of oil. When I burn that oil it is going to vaporize and change the climate of the air in your room. Not only are the particles from that oil in the air now, but it is really fucking difficult to turn those particles back into oil. Once the toothpaste is out of the tube it's not that easy to put it back in again.
But have you heard "what goes up must come down"? See, I can make irrelevant analogies as well.
You're a different kind of retard. Acid rain was actually a thing. The hole in the ozone layer was actually a thing. Plastic garbage spinning around in the ocean is actually a thing.
We should always collectivize and complain to prevent corporations from shitting our the streets. And we should never confuse that with paying a tax to XYZ Exchange so YZX Bank can finance ZXY Corp to globalize street shitting.
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You are implying things that I didn't say. The word "cost" implies a decline in wealth, not a transfer of wealth.
This is the level of discussion you have to step down to when engaging with a conspiratard.
>Acid rain was actually a thing
No it wasn't fuckwit
>The hole in the ozone layer was actually a thing
Not it wasn't fuckwit
>Plastic garbage spinning around in the ocean is actually a thing
Apart for being unsightly how does this affect the health of the environment?
The right is trying to take environmentalism from the left because 'muh boomers' would have to be the most retarded political move in history. The left can keep that stinking turd.
Environmentalism has always been about virtue signalling and unless jobs for junk-scientists.
Funny how we're always on the cusp of "breaking the planet" and these noble scientists always save us just in time and then move on to the next great threat.
>No it wasn't fuckwit
Yes it was fuckwit
>Not it wasn't fuckwit
Yes it was fuckwit
>Apart for being unsightly how does this affect the health of the environment?
I don't want that fucking shit anywhere near me. You think I should put up with unsightliness just because you like the feeling of someone's corporate dick up your ass? Fuck you.
>The right is trying to take environmentalism from the left
Fuck you and your right-left boomerism. God damn you faggots are stupid.
Japan hit a record high temperature.
>damages and costs
Give me a single scenario where this doesn't transfer wealth.
Does the advent of NPC awareness prove niggers aren't people? The ones who aren't got a Jew down the line somewhere be honest.
>Waah corporations are hurting "the planet"
I see we got ourselves a genuine leftard here. Sorry for bothering to argue with you, you people need to be shot not debated.
For example the default scenario in which there is no international agreement whatsoever. Rising sea levels, droughts, storms, and possibly migration cause costs for some countries. Nobody gains wealth in this scenario.
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No, I'm asking you to specify the damages and costs that you claim will happen if the global climate continues to warm. You literally said "damages and costs."
No user! We have to give all of our money and sovereignty up to make the average temperature a fraction of a degree cooler! The world is going to end!
>you people need to be shot not debated
You don't have guns and I do. Funny how that works.
I was on my lunch break with my boss. We were at Glenelg beach in Adelaide, was sat there and ateour lunch and watched how close the houses were to the incoming waves. He said that onlz 10 years ago that there was a massive distance between, now the waves are basically on top of the houses.
What's more likely?
>World in deadly danger
>A bunch of assholes create a "problem" because they want an excuse to tax you more?
Have you noticed how every proposed measure to combat this non-problem is a globalists wet dream?
>How does plastic garbage is bad for the environment?
Animals starving to death because of plastics in the stomach is a bad thing for the environment, but I don't expect a denialist to understand that. When you believe that acid rain and ozone layer depletion are a conspiracy to scare you, then the only cure is proper medication.
Thatsnot it, major pollutersshould pay more for the damage to the environment and if that makes items more expensive forzou than you have the option robot but it and buy something that is more environmentally friendly.
That is it. I was describing The Paris Climate Accord. Stop trying to keep the climate from changing faggot. It always has and it always will.
It's got all the makings of a religion with prophets, dogma and heretics.
>carbon tax
Its like they want to tax people for existing... Oh wait...
If every day for 20 years you told someone they were sexually molested they would probably start remembering that too.
Sea level rise is something I love because you can actually just go look up the records and prove the bullshit claims wrong. Go look up the seas level rise for the last 10 years. It's about 2 cm. So either your boss is full of shit or the houses have moved close to the water.
Who is being damaged, and what are the costs? If you can't even tell me who you claim are being damaged, and who you claim are paying costs, then you're unironically one of the dumbest people I've interacted with here.
Musk is a big global warming guy but then again he's manufacturing electric cars and solar panels so....
>acid rain and ozone layer depletion are a conspiracy to scare you
Why did they stop talking about it when the more lucrative and impossible to disprove "climate change" came along? They just won that battle huh? Crisis over.
They stopped talking about acid rain because the anti-acid-rain laws worked, and they stopped talking about CFCs because they were fucking b& and it worked too. They will never stop talking about climate change, because the climate will always change.
Are you trolling me? You asked for a scenario without wealth transfer and after giving you one, you say "no, I asked for specifics about damage and costs". That doesn't make any sense.
That being said, I guess you want to deny that the costs mentioned in my previous post will be significant. In this case just say what you mean for fuck's sake and stop asking stupid questions.
There's islands in my home state that flood every time it rains, they never used to do that. There's rivers that used to freeze over every winter and now they maybe get a thin sheet of ice after a particularly heavy blizzard. Global warming is real.
Did you know the "hole" in the ozone layer is as big as it ever was because it has always existed? Did you know the gas that was supposed to destroy ozone was heavier than air? Did you know you're a dupe?
No, are you trolling me?
This is the first comment of yours I replied to:
>No it doesn't. It claims that changing the equilibrium causes a lot of damage and costs.
I've been asking you over and over again.
WHAT DAMAGES
WHAT COSTS
AND TO WHO
Will you ever answer, or are you just a literal NPC who can't even explain the very first thing you posted.
I love this shit too. Its called global warming not your local town warming. Did you measure the temperature at every location on earth and then make an average and then compare it year by year? No you looked at a river! Global warming confirmed! Fuck this shit really brings out the morons.
>the "hole" in the ozone layer is as big as it ever was because it has always existed
you are literally a retard
>the gas that was supposed to destroy ozone was heavier than air
Wow. That's so meaningful.
That has to be the worst comparison I have ever fucking heard? Are you serious? You sound like some self entitled boomer who bought a house for $20,000 in 1970, sat on centrelink for the last 20 years and gets hard every time Sco Mo talks about creating jobs. I am talking about real life situations where people are noticing an ill effect on our earth and all you can do is point towards some link like a fucking parasite. Faggot
You can look this shit up faggot, but no I think you'd rather cling on to your delusional eviro-horseshit.
There is no ill effect. You people are literally cult members.
>You can look this shit up faggot,
means you have no idea wtf you're talking about.
go jump in a shark pool you stupid abo nigger, you have nothing to contribute intellectually
And when you implant an idea in someones head and repeat it over and over and over they start believing it and shaping their overvaluations to fit it. That's how this scam come into existence. People in positions of authority started spouting assertions that were false and because most people have no ability to resist propaganda they fall for it. Global Warming is the biggest con job is the history of mankind.
Oh ok we will all move our houses away from the beaches and just ignore the issue. We are burning fuel ok, have you ever burnt fuel? Where does it go afterwards? What happens then? " Oh hurr Durr it invisible ehhh" we are heating up the earth, the shit is melting, soon the Antarctic ice walls will melt, earth as we know it will be flooded and will all move to unheard of land far in the distance.
I'm not going to do your research for you. My claims can be backed up by facts but you obviously want to believe this shit so no amount of truth is going to change your mind.
No one even knows what you're talking about now, you fucking NPC.
Say one thing that I can't google.
The onus of proof is on you climate cultists not me. I don't need to prove nothing is happening. You need to prove a) its warming, b) aforementioned warming is caused by humans, and c) the aforementioned waning caused by humans is dangerous.
So far you faggots have not even passed a) The current temperature fluctuations are not even any different to normal background noise.
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Google the ozone hole. There was always a hole over the antarctic, it wasn't created by humans. They claimed we made it worse but that was just an excuse for more research grants because they are con artists like all environmentalists.
Google acid rain. One lake somewhere in eastern Europe got polluted because of one factory and that's what started the acid rain hysteria. Its all bullshit.
No, I'm not trolling you when pointing out that you dishonestly claimed "no, I asked something else" after I had answered your question about wealth transfer. And no, I'm not trolling you when pointing out that I already said what damages and costs are caused (as if these aren't well known claims that you didn't already know anyway). You are a very unpleasant person and I'm tired of your stupid games.
>This is the first comment of yours I replied to
And when you read what this post is about you will notice that I didn't try to defend the standard narrative. I was just saying that OP is wrong about what the standard narrative is. If you want to start a discussion about the validity of this narrative, then don't act like child by asking dumb question and say what you actually mean.
This. It accomplishes all their goals.
>Blames White people for the destruction of the world.
>Encourages Whites not to reproduce.
>Opens the door for every commie edict they can think of
>Delegitimizes real science
The list goes on
global average temperatures have never been static, i'm unconvinced as well
Pro Adani coal mine or against?
I live and have always lived in NY and a fuck load of our trees got acid raped by corporate excess until we nazified our environmental standards. I saw it myself. I hiked there in the 80s and I hiked there in the 10s. There's a huge difference. You're either a retard or a shill, and either way you should go fuck yourself.
You're the retard if you think the right embracing eco-tardism and Gia worship is a winning strategy. It's about as cringe as the "dems are the real racists" meme. and if your a lefty then you can just go fuck yourself too.
Hmm should I de-industrialize my nation or not? Hard choices!
>global average temperatures have never been static
That's not an argument against anything. The claim is that temperatures are changing much faster than before since the last glaciation, and that it's man-made.
I'd be more worried about the Arabs fucking my sister than temperature rise since the last glaciation if I were you Hans.
>postmodern word salad
wow, you're actually a literal retard
Also the wave of trannies is to make immigrant women feel like they have real earning power so that they stick around.
The more you know.