QUICK!!!

All arguments about abortion boil down to a semantic argument about what qualifies as life.

The non-emotional pro life argument is that a fetus is a human and it's murder.

The non-emotional pro choice argument is that life doesn't begin until it's able to live outside of the womb.

There is nothing else to you can discuss if you disagree on this.

say you'll leave. if she says you should, then go and don't look back. she doesn't love you and wants to kill a child, you're better off without.

Threaten her with murder

14 words

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children

fake news, you're not a dad because the kid aint yours.

Simple. If she kills your child you leave her. That's it. No other conditions. It's non-negotiable

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you can’t murder something without a conscience. It’s basic science. Ergo this argument is entirely emotional

your wife is trash if she is thinking of aborting your child.

Oh never mind she'll leave you first

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> because she has huge boobies and said I didn’t have to work because she would bring home the bacon
Yea this doesn't work. She will eventually divorce you. Women can't stand when the men sit home and don't do shit.
This is further exemplified by the fact she's wanting to abort your baby and you're married.
She has no intention of staying with you or forming a family.
She's just riding your dick until she finds something better. A man she wouldn't mind starting a family with.
Women want their men to WORK. Period.
The fact you don't makes you extremely disposable. This is how women work.

Whats her political idealogy?

You can't support yourself and she's not willing to take care of a child...
None of you should be having kids. Get a job, find a better woman.

how old is the fetus. If it's older then six weeks tell her that any child with a heart beat would have to be a live human being. If it's like a one week after thing then tell her that the fetus has her DNA and has cells replicating it every second. The argument gets easeir after time. I would reccommend trying to get her to keep the baby until theres more evidence that it's a human being. Showing her tools used to carry out abortion, and how horrible it is should win her over. Good luck user. If you want an emotoinal appeal it's even easier.

Our most fundamental rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Abortion ends life, therefore it is is violation of our single most fundamental right

She already has a child
it's you

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We don’t really do the politics thing but I secretly voted for trump while she was at work. She would leave me if she found out though

Definitions of words aren't emotional.

Also, the pro-life response to your challenge would be

>A man slips into a coma and will likely regain consciousness in 9 months. You would murder this person because he is not conscious?

I'm not going to critique either side, just stating that this debate will always boil down to a semantic argument.

You ARE the kid, my dear. She's saying she doesn't need another one. At least she doesn't have to change you when you shit your pants.

Yell her that you would not be able to live with a child killer.

I think you can make a good argument in terms of potential

>If taking good care of your body results in a child, then stopping that is murder

And abortion mainly kills off blacks and undesirables

It's not your body, it's your child's. If it were your body, it would be you who dies.

You're a massive faggot

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>t. Smirk @ computer screen

You’re fucked. Assuming it’s not a larp, I mean she’s got it made in that situation. Got a stay at home dad to take care of the kids, lay the pipe to her to set her off to sleep at night, gets to go play career woman, and still she won’t crank out any babies.

She must secretly despise you, user. I’m not even baiting, I mean it. She must really hate your guts.
That situation minus the lack of kids is like a dream to an overworked inner slacker like me.
Do you even make yourself useful around the house? Does it look like trash? Are you a sexual complete sub? Maybe she’d grant you at least some respect if you’d clean up and lift a little bit with all the free time you got.

sad.

Tell your wife you are fine with abortion if it will end a potential feminist at conception.

It's not her body she's aborting.

>non-emotional argument
Why would you use something that a woman won't even understand?

Consider the damage this decision may do to her psyche in the long run. That's probably the least emotional point I can think of, hope it helps.

You mean consciousness, and since we don't have a scientific method for studying consciousness, you're actually wrong. It's not "basic science". None of what you've said is "science". I actually agree that there's nothing morally wrong with abortion, though I do believe it has negative psychological effects on our society (in the form of emotional damage, weakening of our sense of responsibility, erosion of importance placed on procreation), but you sound like you're trying to be smart when really you have no clue what you are saying.

>so I can convince my wife to keep our baby
You are clearly a cuck for needing to come to Jow Forums to ask such a question so it is best that bitch kill the baby so it never grows up to be a cuck like you. Also, kys and the bitch.

Fuck, this has to be bait. Good job, OP.

Oh and if you want her to keep the baby?
You don't address abortion. You don't need to.
Tell her you think that men with children need to WORK, and if she would consider keeping the child you will work, maybe even get an education and a career. WATCH her start to get real fickle about the abortion suddenly.
Show her some ambition? Show her some drive? She'll keep the kid.
It's YOU. YOU are the reason she wants to abort the kid. Wake up. Before you get divorced too.

What do emotion and logic have to do with it? Is it hard to understand that killing babies is not good? Then you're fucking hopeless.

Oxford English Dictionary defines conscience as, "A person's moral sense of right and wrong, viewed as acting as a guide to one's behaviour." I'm fairly certain you mean consciousness, since conscience makes no sense.

Asleep people aren't conscious
Comatose people aren't concious
Almost all animals, and all mammals are conscious at some points of their lives.

NPC post. Didn't even think before you posted.

larp thread, sage, fuck every NPC that posts

Just tell her that if she kills your child then you will kill her. Keep it simple.

It will scramble her brain box. Abortions cause mental health problems sooner or later.

they still have a conscience. Unborn babies don’t

nah the fact that she's aborting it proves he's the real father. she's doing the right thing by waiting for the seed of a real man. when a woman is impregnated by a man she truly lusts after and respects (maybe even fears) she is basically placed under a biological spell. she'll do anything to protect the child, and her man. i hope one day she's able to find that special someone

>The definition of life is controversial. The current definition is that organisms are open systems that maintain homeostasis, are composed of cells, have a life cycle, undergo metabolism, can grow, adapt to their environment, respond to stimuli, reproduce and evolve.
This is middle school shit man

>non-emotional argument so I can convince my wife to keep our baby

'As your husband, I'm going to tell you that if you decide to abort, you may as well consider it a murder-suicide.'

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It's my baby, you're just the middle man and if you don't want the baby go fuck yourself, I'll find a better woman ....

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literally a lump of cells and I said non-emotional

Abort your wife

Clarify, do you mean consciousness, or conscience?

If you mean conscience, then you played yourself, psychopaths don't have a conscience, and neither do children until a year after birth.

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It’s a woman’s choice if she wants to have an abortion or not.

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How is a picture of a clump of cells emotional? you're projecting, sweetie.

>hurrrrrr Lump of sells!!!!!
You too are a lump of cells so I recommend kys’ing yourself

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I wonder who was behind this abortion

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I have a conscious

It’s not murder if the child isn’t born yet.

You mean consciousness, NPC. And no, you don't, only do you have a consciousness when you are awake, half of the time you don't.

imagine being as dumb as this guy

I would be totally ok with abortion if it was a compulsory procedure if the father wants to abort it, that would make things fair. The fact that it isn't is my argument against abortion. Come at me.

Kill her if she kills your child. An eye for an eye.

Divorce her if she kills your child.

Tell her that you will leave her. Anyway as she gets older her body will produce less eggs and they will be of far lesser quality increasing chances of disabilities like autism, down syndrom ect.. Prime age for babies is in early twenties.

This argument is always perplexing from pro choice, like if they welded the pussy shut as the baby tried to come out and it died and then they let it out, it wouldn't be murder

It’s not killing a child if the child isn’t born yet dipshit.

When is the child live? Foot out of pussy? Head? Half body?

Nationality doesn’t matter. Earth is over populated anyway.

Dude, it's honestly better if your kid gets aborted. You are utterly fucking vapid. Braindead. There is no point to having your kid because he will be a walking coma with your genetics. He will be like a zombie, wandering around with his working body and working muscles, but no working mind. No thoughts. Nothing going on inside his head. Just a TV playing static 24/7. He will be a drain on society. He will eat and drink and use up our energy and our tax money and he will give back nothing. Literally less intelligent or useful to the world than a worker ant, which at least has a crude sense of duty. This kid will have to put in mental work just to take a shit. Just trying to spell his own name will take so much effort he runs the risk of an aneurysm. Just tell your wife to end the kid as soon as possible... it's better for him, it's better for you, and it's a hell of a lot better for us.

When it’s born and has an understanding of where it is.

>nonemotional
Fuck that, your wife is pregnant. You're not dealing with a sane human being that can be reasoned with. This is emotional warfare of the highest order and you do not negotiate with terrorists.
"My body, my choice" is nonsense used to justify forcing your shitty choice on other people who are equally, if not more affected, by that choice. For instance, the father who will be FORCED to lose a child, or the child that will be FORCED to lose it's life. The emotional burden of the mother who cares so little for their child that they would sooner kill it than raise it pales in comparison.
That said, your wife wouldn't be saying those things if you were reassuring her in any way that things were going to be alright. Get off your ass, get a job doing something that'll get your testosterone up and stop being a lazy fucking cuck.
Or just gtfo because this isn't your personal blog.

Nigger shit

Did you make that baby on your own? Without a man, a woman is nothing, especially concerning childbirth.

>Non emotial argument
>To convince women.

>If you abort our child I will murder you

That's the only "argument" you need

Are you both white?
If so, and she murders your child, leave that bitch.

Its kind of true

Just explain to her its cruel and that child deserves to live. Make her understand a baby's life isn't a serious and sacred thing. Put your foot down and oppose it but also promise to look after the baby with her and help her and that her life will be fine if she has the baby

This is true to a certain extent, but it’s also quite easy to lay out that regardless of your thoughts on the rights of a foetus it is selfish and degenerate to terminate the potentiality of another human life out of convenience.

do you think there should be a cut-off date for abortions, or would you be cool with an abortion like a day before the baby's due date?

So like 3 years old then?

A stay at home dad
Even if I have the bets tip for you I wouldnt give it to you because you deserve suffering and I dont want that kid to come alive either

>you have to convince your WIFE not to abort your babby
Ahhaha oh wow, why would.you marry a woman like that? Bitch had one job lmao

Saving the baby is the priority here

I know you’re trying to make me upset but it’s not going to work. There’s nothing you can say that I haven’t heard a thousand times already. I’m comfortable at home with the kids. I actually used to be a grade school teacher and I know how to deal with them. My wife is a hard charger personality and the office life suits her better. Your statistics and all your memes all go right out the window when discussing individuals. People are different and that’s okay

Unless it's going to be born with birth defects or threaten the life of the woman, there's still alternatives like giving the child up for adoption. Next time, wrap your dick or get snipped.

My sperm, my choice.

Most men don't plan to be stay at home dads or have the baby on government assistance. What else do you do but try for government assistance and split the baby duties with the woman if you have no job and your girlfriend only works 2 days a week? The government has to pay if neither the mom or the dad can be breadwinner.

Misogynist gtfo.

Well when they say "viable outside the womb" they usually mean no abortion past the second trimester unless there are complications that threaten the woman's life.

There are definitely concerns from a pragmatic point of view. In the U.S. something like 20% of major hospitals are now Catholic hospitals, and the church is buying more. If a woman gives birth in a Catholic hospital, they will not kill the baby even if it threatens the woman's life during childbirth.

I could understand the concern if I was a woman.

Leave her if she does that. Women hate being alone after an abortion. They're beyond emotional.

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STUPID DUMB PEDOCRAT SCUM
LETTING THEM SACRIFICE YOUR KIDS FOR FUN
HOW CAN IT BE A "WOMAN'S RIGHT" TO KILL SOMEONE?
STUPID DUMB PEDOCRAT SCUM

Anytime before the baby is born.

she'll regret it later on in life

Your evil for supporting blatant infanticide