Hey Jow Forums
My AP English Lang teacher has assigned us a project comparing and contrasting "Hate Speech vs Free Speech", and that prompted me to think more about the subject. What would you all consider "hate speech" (if anything)? Thoughts, statistics, memes, everything is welcome. I'm just trying to get a wide range of opinions.
Free speech vs. "Hate Speech"
Anything that calls for direct violence. Everything else should be protected speech.
Hate speech is speech that directly and inarguably leads to violent criminal behaviour of any kind, whether it's assault or vandalism.
Not hate speech is speech that hurts the precious snowflakes feelings and makes them feel uncomfortable in the world.
Generally, that's where I seem to draw the line as well
hate speech is a left wing meme that fits along their recent trend of coming up with phrases that try to sound high minded while actually being ambiguous to the point of meaninglessness. Diversity is our strength, health care is a human right are other examples.
You know those people who like living in a free society? You know people like that?
Fuck em.
They think things that hurt me feel feels and that shouldn't be allowed.
t. The Libtards
Define violence
>What would you consider hate speech?
That's the problem, it's totally subjective and based on personal feelings, whereas free speech is not. The whole purpose of hate speech laws is to censor people based on subjective criterion, which is based entirely upon the whims of whoever is in charge.
For example, if you say something insulting about gays or Islam they call it hate speech, and in England or Sweden you might be arrested for it. However, if you say something hateful about white people or Christians then they won't care. In both cases people get offended, but it's only when certain people get offended that offensive talk is considered hate speech.
Come on Nigel, you know that's not how it plays out in any country with hate speech laws. You criticize the left and their allies and you get locked up. In the case of your country you get locked up and tortured by Muslims.
The left literally conflates hurt feelings with violence.
Free speech is all speech.
There is no such thing as "hate speech". Its just a buzzword meaning "things that trigger me."
That's exactly the problem with this whole debate.
Hate Speech isn’t real, there’s only free speech or state approved speech.
It's a false dichotomy. If "hate speech" is not allowed, then you do not have Free Speech. Because "hate speech" can be defined to be whatever the party in power wants to censor.
It's like they are asking you which jail cell you should be kept in. Only if you reject the premise of the question can you be free.
Free speech includes calls to violence, i.e. a politician saying we should go to war with country X.
Yelling 'fire' in a theater is also protected as long as the motive is not to cause mass bodily harm.
To fall out of free speech protection you must be calling for violence and have the intent to see violence acted out.
Hate speech is not clearly defined but generally is speech that directs hatred towards a group. Any violence is a byproduct of the hatred and not caused directly by the speech.
i.e. "traps are gay" is free speech and hate speech but "lets kill this gay trap" may fall out of free speech protections
If you're not reporting yourself for hate speech to the local police for a response to be the centre piece of your assignment you're doing it wrong
I'd go further. Even if you call for direct violence you should only be punished if the violence comes to fruition. And only credible threats should be taken into account for conspiracy. For example if I said on phone call to my buddy Alex and say "go kill John Smith" that should not be punished because I do not have a reasonable expectation of Alex doing what I said. But say a mob boss calls a hitman and says the same thing he should be punished.
That's actually not a bad idea... A bit risky though
>AP Lang
God damn does your school not have dual enrollment you fucking high school faggot
This x100, which will eventually result in everyone "just joking" which is why any restriction on speech is fucking retarded
Run a poll, first say something against white men, then women, then mexicans, muslims, etc, to Jews.
See which one gets you in trouble.
It is a trap. She is trying to get you to make a right wing argument so she can fail you. Don't fall for it, user. Also, underage b&.
Hate speech as used today by many of those on the left is any speech that they do not like and is against their agenda.
Mention the calls to violence, and then give examples.
"#killallmen"
"Punch Nazis"
"die cis scum"
And so forth. Provide lots and lots of examples of this hateful speech.
is best answer, btw. "Hate Speech" is not a thing. It is a tool of political censorship.
There's no such thing as hate speech, there's just speech
That's not a crime. Crime occurs when people actually commit violence
She is brainwashing you into thinking there is a difference.
There isn't
Schools are mostly profiling students and their families these days. I saw what they were doing when I took a look at my son's work sheets and saw their tactics to profile student and families.
"Hate speech" has always, and will always mean
"I hate the way you speak".
No risk no reward poof. Do it.
It's really just an unveiled attempt to stifle criticism of the government.
Free speech: I can tell whatever I want as long as it's not defamation nor inciting people to act against the law or commit suicide.
Hate speech: I tell I hate someone
Conclusion: they're two uncomparable concepts.
Hate speech is a fucking meme. There's only Free Speech, which is anything and everything that hasn't been deemed illegal, "yelling fire in a crowded theater" etc.
>Congress shall make no law limiting the freedom of speech
1st Ammendment, Bill of Rights, Constitution of The United States of America
Either your teacher believes in the Constitution of our country or that shitbag can get the fuck out. There's no fucking grey area here. It's objective truth.
"Hate speech" is a made up term used to demonize and punish white people. It is the same as the (((media))) saying "assault rifle". There is no such thing as an assault rifle in the military. The only speech that should be restricted is speech calling for direct violence and the equivalent of yelling fire in a theater. Call your teacher a kike zog for trying to brain wash you.
an injury that affects the function of the person or object in question
One sheet of paper with one statement. “Hate speech is free speech”
If you don't have a reasonable expectation then you aren't inciting violence.
kys doesn't literally mean commit suicide does it.
She wants you to tell her all mean speech online is hate speech. If you don’t, she will fail you.
"Hate speech" could mean anything, but here are some strict and pragmatic limitations of speech.
Speech that should be limited and punished:
>I'll give you $1000 to stab that guy.
>Rob that store or I'll kill your family.
Speech that's deemed hate speech but shouldn't be limited:
>Black people are grossly overrepresented in crime stats.
>I don't feel right about homosexuality.
>Third-world immigrants are refusing to assimilate and turning our country into the shithole they escaped from.
I'll let you work out the fundamental differences between the categories.
Hate. God hates.
Why can't we?
Yelling fire in a crowded theater is legal if there is a fire.
Hate speech laws are trying to be implemented because they don’t want to to be legal to talk about the fire.
If you say nigger thats hate speech if you dont say nigger its not.
This is the only true answer.
Hate is an emotion
"Hate Speech" is just a way of saying
>You shouldn't be able to express how you feel because of how it might make me feel
Simple, don't listen
This is fine, as long as it's explicit. Hate speech is not however any expression of a dislike of any idea or what is interpreted as a call for violence, e.g. "fuck faggots," or even "all faggots should be murdered." Any such phrase can be deemed offensive by any number of faggots. The exception might be saying something like "murder all faggots."
The Talmud is hate speech
>What would you all consider "hate speech" (if anything)?
There is no such thing as a "hate speech" exception to free speech. SCOTUS says so andher opinion is literally irrelevant.
This is hate speech.
Hate speech IS free speech libtard