Transgenderism counter-argument megathread

< Have some beauty that only comes from people their genders instead of forcing their delusions on the rest of us.

The midterms are coming up, that means personal debates etc. and let's face it the gender obsessives will be more obnoxious than ever this year. Let's keep calm in the face of the screaming tranny defenders and offer our rational arguments for why someone denying their reality and saying they're not a gender and it's "they/them" ISN'T the same thing as changing your name.

-Biology and the natural world have already determined something for you, and just because you don't like it/want to be it, doesn't change reality. It's like saying you don't live on Earth, no amount of make-believe is going to alter reality.

Add yours, Anons.

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newsweek.com/republicans-democrats-sexual-misconduct-trump-715837
m.ranker.com/list/republican-sex-scandals/web-infoguy
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I mean if you want to establish that gender is a set of behaviors and shit distinct from biological sex, fine, but that doesn't mean if you cut off your dick that my cumming in the resulting hole is going to produce a baby. Talk about behavioral spectrums until the cows come home, we're still sexually dimorphic

when genetic engineering accelerates into life extension than body modification I'm either going to look like a perfectly geometrical octahedron or an eleven year old girl

They can believe they're any gender they want. That's absolutely their prerogative, and mine.

The problem arises when they force me to pretend they're a woman, when they're actually just a dude with a mutilated penis and fake tits.

Leftists love the word "gaslighting". When you associate it with something, they're preconditioned to believe that thing is bad and fascist.

Trans activists are gaslighting society to believe in the delusions of a mental illness. Pretending they're women is as evil and wrong as telling a schizophrenic person that the voices are real.

>transgenderism

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That is exclusionary, never say that again! This shit ends YESTERDAY!!!’n

we need to have a rational debate about humane treatment for people with mental disorders
this drug and mutilate policy more often than not ends in suicide
now their forcing it on normal children who so much as play dress up
it is sadistic

kys rainbow fascist

i wish i could have been a ballerina. atleast i look pretty good in a tutu though

Drumpf is getting arrested soon, then it’s madam president Clinton, I can’t wait to see your face when it happens

If that happens, I'll be with the caliphate, escorting you to the top of a skyscraper

Mentally ill or bullshit artists.
You decide.
breitbart.com/london/2018/09/07/transgender-rapist-sex-assault-inmates/

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What is this, a front hole for ants?

Don't forget that their lobbying is the ONLY reason it's not considered a mental health problem anymore in the DSM as of a few years ago. The activists bitched forever just like paedophiles but everyone stood their ground. Then along comes Bruce Jenner and Jazz Jennings and that Time magazine cover and the medical professionals went "Oh noes don't call us phobics and hates and Nazis!" and rolled right over.

(And the trannies call that "progress")

I'm honestly just sick of these freaking existing, if you've ever watched any interview with them they lose their minds with even the most rational of conversations that disagree with them.

>telling a schizophrenic person that the voices are real.
This is the best analogy I've come up with so far, playing into their delusion is statistically harmful, any study based on fact rather than opinion based polling has shown transitioning is a net negative on their lives.

Jfc reddit go back, its sarcasm

I don't have any sources but iirc didn't some major donors threaten to pull funding from some of the major psychiatric organizations if they didn't reclassify it and lo and behold it suddenly got changed?

Men are better women than women

Pls tell me about how your rational and humane treatments worked out statistically and necessitated the current reality to manifest

I know
Only faggots die
The FTMs will die
The LGB everything else will die
but the FTM kufir fuck holes are all good
If you're one of those, guess I'll have to miss out, but you'll be a fucking woman under Muslim patriarchy
they won't put up with any xi/xis shit once they're in power

>-Biology and the natural world have already determined something for you, and just because you don't like it/want to be it, doesn't change reality. It's like saying you don't live on Earth, no amount of make-believe is going to alter reality.

Enjoy having cancer, OP

You're the only real faggot in here.

musingsofmatthias.wixsite.com/whatneedstobesaid

rational and humane treatment is for actual people who need help, not fascist tryiing to impose their mental disorder on the rest of society.
I want people to be happy and I hate doctors who take a mental illness and make a buck off of it
or tv producers or lobbyists or politicians for that matter

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> I hate doctors who take a mental illness and make a buck off of it
This is how jobs work, even in socialist countries doctors needed to be paid for their work

>not fascist tryiing to impose their mental disorder on the rest of society.
Depends, are they imposing or are they asking to be recognized as human by others and as the way that causes them the least pain psychologically?
Of course people exploit the patients and not all of the patients are good people, just like how not everyone with cancer is a good or bad person.

Again, what rational and humane treatment has better success rate and delays suicide longer?

The current treatments are HRT and surgery because they work better statistically than the past, otherwise this wouldn't even be an issue today if we had better ways to deal with it

>they work better statistically than the past,
suicide rate is the same
it is merely the most expensive treatment and currently popular
it is also irreversible and to even begin this process on a child who is legally unable to give consent is monsterous
>asking to be recognized as human
then they can be addressed as he or she not some made up pronoun which they impose on others
they also need to realize that while they can be extended the courtesy of being treated as their preferred gender, in reality, they are not and no amount of HRT or surgery will change that
genetic females are physically inferior to genetic males and when MTF females compete against females, it makes a mockery of women's sports
In addition heterosexual cross-dressers far outnumber transgenders
bathroom laws put in place for the sake of transgenders put women and girls at risk for physical assault from heterosexual cross-dressers

>suicide rate is the same
Source? Also you ignore the fact that even delaying suicide until later in life is medically a success

>it is also irreversible and to even begin this process on a child who is legally unable to give consent is monsterous

I agree but hormone blockers are reversible later in life, literally by just using their sex's appropriate hormone.
Imo 13 should be the age at which a therapist seriously considers the option, since before it could just be kid shit.
>not some made up pronoun

Alot of those people are snowflakes and regardless the people with the medical illness get lumped in with them because the snowflakes do the most annoying visible shit

>when MTF females compete against females, it makes a mockery of women's sports

Agreed, they should be transitioned or transitioning medically before they even think about competing in gendered sports. There's actually a lot of debate over this and it's not the idiotic coddling viewpoint that gets blown up on news since again snowflakes get the spotlight by doing egregious shit like in every group.

>bathroom laws put in place for the sake of transgenders put women and girls at risk for physical assault from heterosexual cross-dressers
You're statistically more likely to be sexually harassed by a politician than a crossdresser
newsweek.com/republicans-democrats-sexual-misconduct-trump-715837

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m.ranker.com/list/republican-sex-scandals/web-infoguy

Also a bathroom sign is not going to stop most rapists

Please tell me about the time you encountered someone with colorblindness whose condition caused them to declare that the sky was green, and when you pointed out the sky was blue, they got mad at you for your "disrespect." And then when you tried to explain that their claim was impossible and just not true, they screamed about how phobic and intolerant you were of their condition.

Facts are facts and things are what they are, and if someone has a mental condition, why does the rest of the world need to yield to that false perception of reality? If everyone in a group believes something that isn't true, that doesn't make them inherently correct.

>perfectly geometrical octahedron
Just don't try and turn everyone into tang or anything.

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Because it leads to statistically better outcomes for their medical condition

Really should have taken that part out, i feel how you do just cant logically explain it... halp user?

Appeal to nature fallacy
Dogs eat their weakest puppies by instinct
Nature is not good, evil, or just by objective standards

Context: quote is about planning society's actions

"The modern movement for p̶l̶a̶n̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ TRANSGENDERISM is a movement against
c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶t̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ LIBERTY, a new flag under
which all the old enemies of
c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶t̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ LIBERTY have railed.

And although all sorts of (((interests))) are now trying to re-establish under this flag privileges which the liberal era swept away, it is socialist propaganda for p̶l̶a̶n̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ TRANSGENDERISM which has restored to respectibility among liberal-minded people opposition to c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶t̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ LIBERTY, and which has effectively lulled the healthy suspicision which any attempt to smother c̶o̶m̶p̶e̶t̶i̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ LIBERTY used to arrouse."

At least post an actual trannie ballerina OP, like this former race car driver that was the first trannie to pass the royal academy of dance exam.

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I'm sure this beautiful picture is something that came from your campus.

Well, I'm curious to hear everyone's opinion on what it means. Give me your best.

>Again, what rational and humane treatment has better success rate and delays suicide longer?

>The current treatments are HRT and surgery because they work better statistically than the past, otherwise this wouldn't even be an issue today if we had better ways to deal with it

Good work by completely ignoring the #1 safest and most effective cure for gender dysphoria, therapy. Although to be fair, that vast majority of the trans population also choose to ignore it and would rather die than admit therapy helps and this IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION IS FUCKING TRUE.

Find me a trans person who knows someone who is starting to question their gender where they then recommend to this person that they should seek therapy as theres statistically a good chance (75% or so) that they will grow out of this phase. They never fucking do, instead they convince the poor, confused soul to take extremely powerful mind-altering drugs /hormones and cut their dick off, much easier when on the drugs of course. The mere suggestion that someone would go to therapy instantly puts transgenderism square in the mental illness category, so thats why they refuse to acknowledge it works.

The minority of cases can be somewhat controlled through HRT and a minority of those cases can be cured by SRS. It says a lot when in the past, 75% of cases of gender dysphoria were cured by therapy yet today when therapy is shunned and ignored in favour of mutilating your body and sterilising yourself, 46% attempt suicide. Almost as if a very high proportion of those who attempted suicide, should never have undergone HRT/SRS to begin with.

I fucking hate anyone who says they are a 'trans ally' yet reject the idea of therapy as bigotry and instead prefer the suicide option. These people are scum, on the tier of that woman in USA who convinced her boyfriend to kill himself in his car. They never show remorse, they never acknowledge their actions lead to death. I want them all hanged fucking cunts.

90 percent of the fags on here would love to prance around in a tutu and tights. Hahahaha, fine bunch of Nazis you all are.

OP included, hence to fag rag of a flag.

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That is disgusting.