Explain to me why Jesus is not God in the flesh plz

Wrong bitch i got heart

josgreece.angelfire.com/Exposing_Xianity.htm

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>be supposed son of god
>illiterate
>taught us literally nothing about math or the universe
Either Jesus is a fraud or he's a piece of fucking shit. Bringing us calculus would have been a miracle, but he didn't do that because he is a lying Jew.

>illiterate
what makes you think that, have you even read the bible?

Calculus was a bi product of consciousness, you fuckin moron. Jesus gave us life. Hevis the father of heavrn in the flesh. He came fown to say hello.

Also calculus is fag tier dude you can do better. Did you just get through math 193? You a soohmore?

103* sophmore*

Heres what i think. I think that the universe is gods brain. And that our world is a reflection of his. Thats why he says he know everything about our world because our world only consists of that which he knows. He knows our works. Our trials and tribulations. Because he experienced them all. I think when he dies in whatever world hes living in then hes going to come in his own flesh. Jesus was like a dream he had. A lucid dream. Like god did some kind of drug and had a dream about another life. But he cant die in his dereams. He wont let it happen so he rose from the dead. Basically i believe were in gods skull and when he dies hes going to cleanse his mind/our universe of all the evil thats seeped into his conscious. He will seem like a dream character. He will do shit you dont understand. I dont think he can give us immortality though. Were immortal through reproduction. Evil bloodlines will be erased. Good people will be allowed to live as god transforms the universe into heaven. We wont get to be in gods heaven. Well we will for a lifetime but i think when we die we become gods or devils of our own universes. We cleanse our minds of evil or fuel the evil. But our universe is always inside of gods. Without god we wouldnt exist. And maybe god isnt even the end of the line. Maybe hes just an average jow like me and you who gets angry sometimes and destroys worlds in his sleep. Its happened to me a few times.

he said so

what is the Trinity?

And when people ask to see god they say hes a bright light. Almost like theyre just looking out of gods eyes.

Jesus wasn't even a real person, you numbskulls

>pic related

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he is

>the eternal anglo and his conspiracy theory
J E S U S
I S
L O R D

>the eternal anglo and his conspiracy theory
STFU and pay debnts

Because He is. Praise Christ !

Theyre all manifestations of the dreamer.

Jesus is not god in the flesh because there is no god, there is no jesus either just a book written by bronze age primitives

Jesus is like the middle aged god. Odin is like a rebellious teenage god. The hindu gods are like baby god.

>bronze age primitives
thank god for "progress"

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HE WASN'T OMNISCIENT
HE WASN'T OMNIPOTENT
HE WAS JUST NICE AND KNEW WHAT G_D
LIKED
JUST LIKE MUHAMMAD (SAWS)
JUST LIKE ALL THE OTHER PROPHETS

GOD CANNOT BE SIMPLIFIED, EVEN IF YOU PAGANS WANT HIM TO BE JUST LIKE YOU

ALLAHU AKBAR

JESUS IS NOT GOD

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Think about it. Your mind never stops working. If your mind had a way to keep time one day would be like a million days in brain time.

You can dream a whole day because youre in an inner universe

THE TRINITY IS A JOKE!
JESUS IS NOT THE SON OF GOD MORE THAN IS MUHAMMAD, MORE THAN IS ABRAHAM, MORE THAN IS MOSES!

THEY'RE ALL IMPORTANT, BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, ONE GOD BEYOND EVERYTHING, INDEPENDENT OF THE PROPHETS

IF HE DECIDED, HE COULD HAVE KILLED JESUS, OR ANY ONE OF THEM, AND PUNISHED THEM

BUT ALLAH IS THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE MOST MERCIFUL

You can have a dream. That feels like a whole day has passed. But youve only been asleep for 6 hours.

*snap

And youve only been dreaming for one.

found the terrorist

Jesus = son of God

That's the difference. He never claimed to be a prophet. The things he said are pretty specific.
Also preached love and peace

Muhammad = just some dude (who was pretty violent and did some bad stuff)

Irrelative of whether there's any truth to is, you should still follow Jesus over muhammad if you have more than 2 brain cells.

>Not just is Jesus Not God
>He wasn’t even real
Even if you don’t believe he is God, there quite literally was a documented “Yeshua of David” who was a Roman citizen born in Bethlehem. Even if you don’t believe in Him, he was without a shadow of a doubt a real human.

Well, Jesus allowed people to worship Him. Either He is God or a deranged sinner. He can't be both.
You pick deranged.

Good luck with that.

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Tbh. I dont know what the fuck is gonna happen but i cant wait to die. It interests me very much. What the fuck happens? Seriously what!? Is it darkness? Do you become a god? Do you become an microscopic organism? Do you just have a dream that never ends? Theres so many possibilities. Even if its just darkness. Even if you cease to exist. What the fuck is ceasing to exist? What is death!? Does a skeleton man really come to get you? Do angels really carry you to heaven? Can god really throw you in a pit of fire? And would it really even hurt?

What is it!

Do you wake up on some alien world with a computer connected to your brain? Allowing you to live a life for $10?

What if its your choice? What if reality has no meaning? No purpose. And youre a god but everyone else is so are you really god?

>Even if you don’t believe he is God, there quite literally was a documented “Yeshua of David” who was a Roman citizen born in Bethlehem.
You know that Yeshua was the most common name among Jewish men, right?

You're literally pointing at some random called George and saying, "Look! It's the former president of the United States!"

What you are refering has genarally been viewed as a forgery. Regardless yeshua isn’t a name its a title and David was about as common as muhammed is to muslims

Nah. You're a dummy. Nearly all biblical historians whether Christian or not agree that the person of Jesus existed. He had historically confirmed followers. People like you prove Christianity by the sinful lives that you without exception lead. You need to believe that Jesus didn't exist so that you won't be judged for your inequities. But you will

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Bringing medicine to heal diseases he caused himself.
Ov vey what a god!

you are not white. why would you care?

My skin is white. My bones are white. Im many whites.

nigger

Nuh uh.

>Nearly all biblical historians whether Christian or not agree that the person of Jesus existed.
How would you know? You haven't read any historical scholarship nor talked to any academic historians.

>He had historically confirmed followers.
Yep, and none of them wrote anything about meeting Jesus or hearing what Jesus said, nor did they write anything about what Jesus did

>People like you prove Christianity by the sinful lives that you without exception lead.
Literally retarded

>You need to believe that Jesus didn't exist so that you won't be judged for your inequities.
"Everyone who disagrees with me, does so because they are of poor moral fibre"

>But you will
I don't think so. Both Mark and Matthew make clear that blaspheming against the Holy Spirit (fuck that guy!) is a mortal sin

Dont make me sent you to the cotton field

half of it's in hebrew and the other half greek
it's a shitskin religion for kikes and niggers

Dont make me send you to the cotton world.

The Trinity is a Helenistic philosophical idea and pagan belief. Not a Biblical teaching. We know this because of the definitions used to describe it: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, and persons is all Greek metaphysical terms originating in Helenistic Philosophy going back to Plato and Aristotle. The word hypostatic union comes from hypostasis. It is a philosophical idea from Helenistic Greek Philosophy. The Trinity can only be supported with pagan doctrine. These terms and beliefs are not found in the Bible but in Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras. The Trinity can be traced back through old triad gods, Greek Philosophy, and Hindu avatarism.

The definitions of the Trinity itself: Essence, substance, nature, homoousios, persons, hypostatic union are from Plato, Aristotle, and Pythagoras all taught these centuries before Jesus was born. Just trace "hypostatic union" on Wikipedia. It goes straight back to Plato, Aristotle and Neoplatonism.

Think about this: If I started using word like "Means of Labor," "bourgeoisie," "proletariat," "Base and superstructure" and called myself a Libertarian you'd all cry foul and accuse me of being a Marxist and Communist. Why? Because all my terminology used to describe "Libertarian" ideology is all Marxist in nature. You would all call me a fraud.

Why not with the Trinty? That's where the entire definition of the Trinity comes from. None of the terminologies, definitions, and understanding of the Trinity comes from the Bible. It all comes from Greek Philosophy, Stoicism, Hindus, and Pagans.

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Take the Bartpill

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>"Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a trinity. One recalls in particular the Neoplatonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality which was suggested by Plato." - Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Hastings, p. 458, vol. XII.

>"The genius of Plato, informed by his own meditation or by the traditional knowledge of the priests of Egypt [or by the `mysteries' of Pythagoras], had ventured to explore the mysterious nature of the deity .... the three archical or original principles were represented in the Platonic system as three gods, united with each other by a mysterious and ineffable generation .... such appear to have been the secret doctrines which were cautiously whispered in the gardens of the Academy .... The arms of the Macedonians [Alexander the Great] diffused over Asia and Egypt the language and learning of Greece; and the theological system of Plato was taught, with less reserve, and perhaps with some improvements, in the celebrated school of Alexandria." - The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Edward Gibbon, pp. 675, 676, vol. 1, The Modern Library - Random House, Inc.

> "... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers."– p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D. (see WT 15 Oct. 1978, p. 32.)

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>Take the Bartpill
Used to be a respectable scholar, then trashed his reputation making stuff up.

>"If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians (who differed from their fellow Jews only in the belief that Jesus was the promised Messiah) was changed by the Church at Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief." - The History of Christianity, (Preface by Eckler).

>"The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophical trinity of attributes that gave birth to the 3 hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches.... This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity ... can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions." - (French Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (New Universal Dictionary) ti-E, p. 11. Also found in the Dictionnaire Lachatre as quoted in 8/1/84 WT.)

>“The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”— The New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299

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> "... the doctrine of the Trinity was of gradual and comparatively late formation; that it had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers."– p. 34, The Church of the First Three Centuries, Alvan Lamson, D.D. (see WT 15 Oct. 1978, p. 32.)

>“The impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th-century invention. In a sense, this is true . . . The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century.”—New Catholic Encyclopedia (1967), Volume 14, page 299.

>"Nor is it only in historical religions that we find God viewed as a trinity. One recalls in particular the Neoplatonic view of the Supreme or Ultimate Reality which was suggested by Plato." - Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Hastings, p. 458, vol. XII.

>“The trinity of persons within the unity of nature is defined in terms of ‘person’ and ‘nature’ which are Greek philosophical terms; actually the terms do not appear in the Bible. The trinitarian definitions arose as the result of long controversies in which these terms and others such as ‘essence’ and ‘substance’ were erroneously applied to God by some theologians.”—John L. McKenzie, S.J., Dictionary of the Bible (New York, 1965), p. 899

Your own scholars don't believe it.

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No evidence, proposition is unfalsifiable

Jesus is a unique son. He is God's ONLY-BEGOTTEN. What that means is that before Jesus came from heaven he was God's first creation ever. Then after Jesus was created, he used Jesus to make everything else. Jesus also calls himself "the only-begotten god" because he was originally a spirit being.

(John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son,

>(John 1:18) No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him.

>Colossians 1:15 - He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation

>Revelations 3:14 - “... These are the things that the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God,

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Begone satans minion.

>Jesus is a unique son. He is God's ONLY-BEGOTTEN.
He wasn't even a real person. Haven't you been paying attention?

Zeros after nein. Its all reich not alt right.

>he wasnt even a real person
No shit. He was god begotten.

You even listening stupid?

>You even listening stupid?
Always the same, no attempt at discussion, no rational argument, no citations from scholarly sources, just the same old petty insults.

Christianity - the religion that only appeals to the stupid.

Love it. Ignore the dude who wrote paragraphs and pick on me.

Secular historians, including Josephus and Tacitus of the first century, mention Jesus as a historical figure. More important, the Gospels convincingly show that Jesus was a real person, not a fictional character. The record is specific and detailed in stating time and place. For example, Gospel writer Luke mentions seven ruling officials—whose names have been corroborated by secular historians—in order to establish the year Jesus began his ministry.

>(Luke 3:1, 2) In the fifteenth year of the reign of Ti·beri·us Caesar, when Pontius Pilate was governor of Ju·dea, and Herod was district ruler of Gali·lee, but Philip his brother was district ruler of the country of It·u·raea and Trach·o·nitis, and Ly·sani·as was district ruler of Ab·i·lene, 2in the days of chief priest Annas and of Caia·phas, God’s declaration came to John the son of Zech·a·riah in the wilderness.

All secular historians agree that Jesus of Nazareth was executed by the Romans on behalf of the Jews. This was done at the Order of Pontius Pilate.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

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Christ is a state of consciousness. The entirety of Jesus' teachings are metaphorical.

because he never existed
just like god

>Secular historians, including Josephus and Tacitus of the first century, mention Jesus as a historical figure.
Lolnope. You've read neither Josephus nor Tacitus, have you?

Josephus manuscripts before the 4th century don't contain any mention of Jesus. And Tacitus wrote about some guy called Chrestus. Some medieval priest didn't like that much, so he scratched out the E to make it look like the passage was about Jesus.

>More important, the Gospels convincingly show that Jesus was a real person, not a fictional character.
99% of the material in the Gospels has been lifted from much earlier Old Testament stories. The remaining 1% comes from Hellenic and Gnostic sources.

Of course, you'd know this if you'd read even a beginner's book on biblical history.

> The record is specific and detailed in stating time and place
Mark got all of his dates and places wrong. It was such a bad job that the later gospel writers had to correct it all.

>For example, Gospel writer Luke mentions seven ruling officials
My book of Robin Hood tales for children mentions King John, who was an actual historical figure attested in multiple sources, therefore Robin Hood and all the stories told about him are 100% genuine!

Retard.

>All secular historians agree that Jesus of Nazareth was executed by the Romans on behalf of the Jews.
You've never read any secular historians so you have no idea what they think.

>quotes Wikipedia
People who quote Wikipedia to win arguments will be the first to hang on the DOTR, even before traitors.

Nice sources

>trimmed beard

why does everyone, always, everywhere, without fail, always get this wrong?

>Nice sources
I just checked the thread, and it appears you haven't cited any sources at all. Whereas my source appears in my first post.

So. What do you think happens when you die?

>So. What do you think happens when you die?
Presumably my brain starts to decompose, and some time after that my brain tissues will return to the Earth's carbon cycle.

Amen.

I.K.R.

I didnt ask about rigor mortis you smart as.

Youre decomposing as we speak moron

What happens to youd conscious.

>What happens to youd conscious.
Consciousness requires brain tissue, so without brain tissue, there isn't any consciousness.

>as long as i have flesh im alive

Does your brain just disappear when you die?

And flowers have consiousness. A flower doesnt have a brain yet it drinks and eats and reaches out for sunlight.

Theres some kind of consiousness there.

>And flowers have consiousness.
Lol, that's pretty funny, user

>“Christus, the founder of the name, had undergone the death penalty in the reign of Tiberius, by sentence of the procurator Pontius Pilatus, and the pernicious superstition was checked for a moment, only to break out once more, not merely in Judaea, the home of the disease, but in the capital [Rome] itself.” - Cornelius Tacitus, Annals, XV,44.

>“[Ananus the high priest] convened the judges of the Sanhedrin and brought before them a man named James, the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ.”Flavius Josephus (Jewish Antiquities,XX, 200)

>“To some of the Jews the destruction of Herod’s army seemed to be divine vengeance, and certainly a just vengeance, for his treatment of John, surnamed the Baptist. For Herod had put him to death, though he was a good man.” - Josephus (c.37-c.100 C.E.)

>“Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles.”—Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews (BookXVIII, chap.3, par.3).

A rock doesnt have a conscious. But a planet does. It follows rules and orbits the sun.

It gets sick. It has explosive diarrhea.

Nice try, but the text you're quoting doesn't actually appear in those documents.

How about now?

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>A rock doesnt have a conscious. But a planet does. It follows rules and orbits the sun.
You know that rocks and plants and even humans are made out of basically the same materials, right?

So why cant you live forever like a rock?