Why does British media refer to middle-eastern people as 'asians'? When did this sudden shift in nomenclature occur?

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Asia stretches from Turkey to Japan, dumb-dumb.

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Pajeetistan and pakishit gang-rape-land are located in South Asia.

No matter how Brits refer to the shitskins, the thing matters is why they don't kick the shitskins the fuck out and why they don't ban Muslims the fuck out.

I think Asian is a good. Orientals should be used for chinks.

The middle east is literally in asia, maybe that's why

If they called them niggers it would cause a row.

Don't hide, nigger.

Why is it all full of niggers then? Is there a lot of bananas there?

That's why it isn't really a useful term, especially when we have something like "Middle-easterner" or "Pakistani" to describe people from South-west to South Asia.

Did you learn geography in the US?

You've got it backwards. Remember, the British owned part of Asia a hundred years ago. To them, the people they ruled over (South Asians and Middle Easterners) were Asian. I think they call East Asian people Orientals still, but that one might be fading.

It's a way to disguise the daily atrocities performed upon British children by a very specific group.

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Yeah it's fucking annoying. No one else does this. However is the reason.

>Arabs are the same as Asians
>t. brainlet

What does that have to do with my original post about the middle east being geographically located in asia?

Pakis are not Middle Eastern, theyre South Asians, literally Asian.

Because we can arbitrarily draw lines on the globe wherever we want. It doesn't make mohammed's culture even remotely similar to chen's.

You are going on a tangent. I was explaining why Arabs are by definition from Asia. In Britain they don't have Arabs btw but Pakistanis

You're missing the point, geographical line drawing is pointless when we're talking about culture. I know this may be hard for an autistic civic nationalist to understand, but please, try to keep up.

Why cant we just say earthlings to every being? We all live on earth, who needs those racist specifics.

They used to just say Indians or Pakistanis etc.
Asians is a coverup.

>sudden shift

Fucking historically ignorant cretinous American shit stains. What is Asia Minor? Show me Asia on a map. What do YOU think "Asia" means? What geographical unit do you think "Asia" encompasses?

Europeans actually were familiar with Turkish and Arab culture long before the Chinese, Siamese, etc. So if anything West Asians were the original Asians.

You (just like Americans) feel that Asia properly refers to East and Southeast Asians simply because they loom larger in your mind owing to geographical proximity

The Middle East is part of the ASIAN continent. No-one here was implying that Arabic culture is similar to Chinese or Vietnamese or Indonesian culture.

Most people of immigrant origin that the media calls 'Asians' are from South Asia like Pakistan and India, we don't have as many arabs or levantines here.

Pakistan, Bangladesh and India aren't really in the Middle East, that is just ignorance on your part. However the use of Asian is a politically correct co-out because its the most vague term that refers to hundreds of different ethnicities around a massive continent. But yeah South Asians are technically Asian so they get away with it. Also the Middle East (arabia, syria, iraq, iran etc) is also technically west Asia so they are technically Asian too, although the middle east is normally referred to as its own region in popular language.

Both the Arabian peninsula and South Asia are parts of Asia

>geographical line drawing is pointless when we're talking about culture.
You are the only one talking about culture. I was merely explaining why it is correct to refer to Arabs as Asian, since they come from Asia. Never mentioned culture or ethnicity in any of my posts

Yeah but its just factually incorrect to call a pakistani or bangladeshi 'middle eastern'.

You're a typical American asking typical ignorant American questions.

Where the fuck to you think the Middle East is located?
This is why no one takes Americans seriously around here. Your education is a joke. It's pathetic and it shows every time.

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Phew, I was there, in the blast radius- thanks for the memories

But too many Ameritards use Asian to refer to Oriental gooks, already.

I don't consider Pakistan, Afghanistan or India as Asian because they don't have the phenotypical Asian look.

>the phenotypical Asian look.

HAHAHA what is the phenotypical Asian look? Chinese? You have a tiny mind.

>Why does British media refer to middle-eastern people as 'asians'? When did this sudden shift in nomenclature occur?

it's for statistics...

So that when questioned, they can say "Muslims do nothing wrong, it's all the Asians fault"

subterfuge and deception... smoke and mirrors.

They don’t refer to Arabs as Asians. They refer to Pakis/Pajeets and Afghans as Asians because they are are Asian, the most numerous Asian ethnicities in Britain. Only retarded mutts think Asian=Chink. There is no conspiracy, when someone in the UK hears “Asian” they think “Paki”, not “chingchong”. This whole thing is annoying as hell, mutts not realising that English words have a different meaning in England.

Arabs are also Asians because they are from the Arabian peninsula which is part of Asia

It is therefore correct to refer to both South Asians and West Asians (Arabian Arabs) as “Asians” although West Asians are more often specifically referred to as being from the Middle East

I'm nearly 50 and it's always been like that. It isn't a conspiracy to hide Pakistani rape gangs, any more than burgers calling Chinese "Asians" is a conspiracy to hide the identity of Triads.

asian = mongoloids

asian race and asian geogrpahical identity are different things

a fucking turk or georgian is "asian" too

This should hopefully stop this thread popping up for 5 minutes, but still Amerimutts wont question why they call American indians, indians, but cannot grasp a baisc concept.

So, what about those three confusing phrases: Far East, Middle East, and Near East?

Far East. First recorded in 1616, the phrase “Far East” came into common usage in the 1800s because of British colonial expansion to eastern Asia. The term was used to describe all British colonies east of India. Today, it still refers to China, Japan and other countries on the eastern rim of Asia, but its use has declined steadily in the latter twentieth century.

“Near East” was defined specifically against the Far East and referred to the region in Asia that’s west of India. Today, the region of the Near East is imprecise and overlaps with the Middle East. It typically refers to southwest Asia, particularly Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and other nations of the Arabian Peninsula. It is not as commonly used as “Middle East.”

So where is the Middle East? Well, it depends on who you ask. The phrase “Middle East” was first used in 1876 as a synonym for “Mesopotamia,” which literally meant “between rivers” in Ancient Greek, specifically between the Tigris and Euphrates in modern-day Iraq. Over time, it has come to describe the region stretching from Egypt and Sudan in Africa to Turkey in the north to Iran. Oddly, in Asia, what we call the “Middle East” is called “Western Asia.” If you look at a map, that makes sense.

What we say about places also shapes what we think about them. The typical English definitions of East do not include Russia, the largest country east of Europe. Similarly, the ways we describe geographic regions are often influenced by political or religious affiliation. These distinctions can contradict each other, though.

Agreed. I’m just telling you how the words are used in the UK. Arabs are generally referred to separately, both in casual conversation and the census statistics.

Asian is everything from China, Japan, down to Malaysia and over to Myanmar. Look at those people, they have a similar look to them though their skin color differs. A Filipino and a Japanese person are both Asian. Now contrast that with someone from Afghanistan or India. They look totally different and have totally different cultures from what is traditionally considered Asian. If you go to an Asian restaurant, you wouldn't expect Indian cuisine. It's really fucking simple.

Turkey is Asian country you dumb fuck (although many “Turks” are genetically Serbs / Greeks / etc)

Asia is inhabited by many races. “Asians” as the term is used in American discourse is essentially a short form of “East and Southeast Asians” while South Asians in America usually get called “Indians” and sometimes “Muslims” regardless of their precise origins

>all of these butthurt europoors
When an american says asian they most likely mean east asians, the chinky yellow people. I just find it ridiculous that when muslims do something bad the british media calls them asians.

>phenotypical Asian look.
Imagine being so retarded that you expect the biggest landmass on the planet, with extremely different environments and natural barriers in which different populations evolved for millions of years in complete isolation from each other to share the same phenotype. Americans are so stupid it hurts

So why don't you call them south asian?

Because calling them orientals was racist apparently

They’ve always called them Asians, it isn’t a fucking conspiracy. The conspiracy was brushing the whole thing under the rug for decades.

It's the classical dissolution of responsibility.
When one of the headhackers kills white children it doesn't pinpoint that the cunt came from Libya and was let into Britain because he was supposedly fleeing Islamic violence but instead wanted to jihad against white christian children as his prophet instructed him to do.

Thats just your own national prejudice though, Asia is extremely diverse ethnically, half the continent is comprised of what you would call caucasoid asians (indians, middle easterners, afghans, persians etc) the other half of the continent for mongoloid asians (chinese, indonesians, japanese etc). Literally the only reason you lend priority to mongoloid asians as being 'phenotypically asian' is because your country took in more of these kinds of asians as immigrants in your history and therefore shaped your cultural understanding of Asian.

Well then aren't Russians, Asians also. There's a reason we don't refer to them as Asian. It's not useful and only adds confusion when using Asian to describe them regardless of their geographic location.

Having chinky slant eyes does not make you similar

>what is traditionally considered Asian

Asia the continent spans across Anatolia in Turkey, the Arabian peninsula, South Asia (India Pakistan and Bangladesh etc.), Southeast Asia (Vietnam Laos Cambodia, Thailand, Indonesia etc.) AND Northeast Asia (China japan and Korea).

The only reason you have this idea that East Asians are *regular Asians* or whatever is because the US owing to its geographical location is closer to east Asia so it has historic trade political and immigration ties to the region it doesnt with other regions of Asia.

In Britain and Europe, the typical Asian is either a Turk/Arab or an Indian/Pakistani for the same reason, people develop associations with what they have been exposed to and are familiar with.

Because they come mostly from Pakistan and not Middle East thus they are part of the Asian continent.

Eurasia.

Actually what is east of the Urals is Asia, so white Russians who live in the Russian Far East are living in Asia.

They aren’t considered racially Asian because they belong to a race with origins in Europe. North American and South African whites are obviously living in North America and Africa, but they racially originate elsewhere.

Again, Arabs are from Arabia, which is in Asia, making Arabs who live in Asia indisputably Asian. Same goes for South Asians.

In france in the current language «asiatique» also mean chink don’t be a sperg about it.

pakis and eastern russians are from Asia but most people don’t really consider them asian, like most people don’t consider maghrébis Africans since africans basically means niggers.

Nope it's because we use words to describe things accurately so as to give the person we're talking to the best description. Asia is too big of a continent to call everyone Asian. Just like North America is too big to just call everyone American. There has to be nuance and that's why calling Pajeets Asian, though technically correct, is still ambiguous as to what phenotypical characteristics the person has. Turkish people are technically Asian but calling them Asian only adds to confusion. South Asian is Malaysia and Philippines, East Asian is Japan and South Korea typically.

>In Britain and Europe, the typical Asian is either a Turk/Arab or an Indian/Pakistani

True but we call them bougnoules, arabes, pakis, beurs but never asiatique (asian)

When you look at medieval maps, Asia basically meant everything east of Greece. South was Africa. Before they realized how big the oceans were, the works was often depicted as a pie-like shape cut into two quarters on top with Africa as a big semicircle on the bottom.

Once America was discovered to be a separate continent from Asia and again when Australia and Antarctica were discovered it complicated things.

But anyway tl;dr Asia basically originated as a term for “the east” and its known area became wider and wider as Europeans went further and further east. Obviously India was discovered in ancient times notably by Alexander but really until the 17th century Asia mostly brought to mind Turks, Arabs, and Russia beyond the Urals. When trade with India got going the popular conception of Asia broadened most spectacularly followed by China and the East Indies.

>South Asian is Malaysia and Philippines

No that’s Southeast Asia. South Asia usually refers to India Pakistan and Bangladesh

East Asians and South Asians are both Asians. The term is valid for both. It just comes down to which demographic is more dominate in each country. In the US it's East Asians, in the UK it's South Asians. The populace of each country knows what's meant when the term "Asian" is used. Only spastic mutts make an issue about this because they're mouthbreathers. I'm not from France but I know that they call Arabs/Muslims berbs or nafris, I know what they mean, I don't sperg out like you faggots. Ask in brit what Asian means and they'll say it's a PC way of saying Paki.

>South Asian is Malaysia and Philippines

Literally everyone else in the world knows this is as South East Asia. South Asia is unambigiously designated, to pakistan, india, bangladesh.

The argument could be made that the use of Asian deemphasizes the suspects likely religious background since you don’t know for certain whether they’re from India Pakistan or Bangladesh.

But yes the chance of an average Briton mistakenly assuming that when he reads in the paper about a bombing in London that the suspect is Lung Wok Kung originally from Hong Kong is about 0%

tl;dr yes the term Asian probably does obscure the origins of criminal suspects in news reports but it doesn’t pin the crime on Ping Ping the sweet and sour takeaway owner

Pakis and Afghans don't want to be called Middle Eastern because there's too much baggage attached to that. They want to be called Asian because when people here think of Asian they associate it with better quality of life. It's similar to how Dominicans don't want to be called black but prefer Hispanic.

Orientals used to be the official term for East Asians but using it is now considered racist and a hate crime.

Yes, look at this Malaysian family. One could easily mistake them for ethnic Japanese.

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>The argument could be made that the use of Asian deemphasizes the suspects likely religious background since you don’t know for certain whether they’re from India Pakistan or Bangladesh.
Not really, because they news are literally reporting an objective fact based on the information they have at the time of any attack. You can tell whether a person looks white, black, Asian etc... you can't tell what their religious beliefs are. The religious background and motive of the suspect is given almost 24/7 coverage for a week or more once it's fully verified.

Arabs are never considered Asians. Asian refers to mongoloid people.

Like the words nigger, negro and coloureds. The name wore out because what it described is ugly and undesireable so the Politically Correct went for a re-branding initiative.

The difference with Oriental though is that it was never meant as an offensive term or slur. It just meant people from the Orient.

>implying that negro or coloured was meant as an "offensive term or slur"
user., I think that you are silly.

No. Correction. You are silly.

lots of Vietnamese where I live

We refer to them as Asians because of the empire. The region of the Indian subcontinent was the part of Asia we had the biggest investment in.
When you say Asian here, most think of these types of people. The chinks, japs, etc. are orientals.

Notice that you conveniently forgot to add the first term you mentioned. Which inarguably a slur and meant as offensive and the term i was responding to. So maybe you should stop being silly, you knew exactly what i was talking about.

which is*

We don't

This isn’t true, it’s always been the word for them.

We don’t, it refers to South Asians and it’s always been this way.

Holy shit his very point is that Asian is a very vague term with no one uniform definition of ‘Asian culture’ to begin with retard.

>South Asian is Malaysia and Philippines,
South Asia has never referred to the Indo-China region, but specifically the Indian subcontinent, and I believe that’s not a regional thing but a global one.

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>Pakis and Afghans don't want to be called Middle Eastern because there's too much baggage attached to that.
And also perhaps because they’re not Middle Eastern?

>They want to be called Asian because when people here think of Asian they associate it with better quality of life.
Asian here is synonymous with brown person, or anyone from Asia.

>It's similar to how Dominicans don't want to be called black but prefer Hispanic.
Dominicans are both black and Hispanic. These are not mutual terms. Pakistanis/Afghans are South/Central Asian, not Middle Eastern. These are mutual terms. You can be any race and be Hispanic since that refers more to a culture than a race. Middle Eastern is Middle Eastern. South Asian is South Asian.