Why was modesty abandoned?

This

>was it always a form of male oppression
no, there's still plenty of women not walking around like the one on the right
and while big dresses like the left one are quite impractical, there's still a great number of modest girls out there and they're certainly not oppressed by anyone anymore
it's te aftermath of the sexual revolution, thanks America/the jews ruining it

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I had a realization recently about why women claim that the 1950s housewife culture was apex oppression: it was a culture of forced monogamy where pursuing men other than your husband was looked down upon. Women had to remain loyal to their husband or face the consequences, they couldn't easily pursue and share Chad with other women. That entire thing is women complaining about not being able to form harems with high status men and collapse society. In their mind that is apex "oppression".

because feminism has made women worthless in the household so they now have to rely on the only thing they have left to offer in order to attract men: their sexuality.

HOLY SNIFF

*BBBBRRRAAAPPPP*

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feminism destroys society

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what do you want us to say? we can talk about the jewish revolutionary spirit and how they subverted modesty but it still boils down to the answer: jews

he's right tho, in our time it was abandoned for a purpose and the ones that promoted it first and started this domino were the kikes. It's just another factor of the growing degeneracy in our society.
>b-but but user ancients wren't that modest!
yea shut up, it was a whole other culture and civilization, you didn't have sluts twerking and acting like apes.

Left: some pale, flat ass wench who will leave you with medevial pubic lice and never shaved anywhere ever in her life

Right: Tan, big ass, sexy and knows it, will fuck your brains out, and is hairless in all the right places

You’re all just virgins who have a fucked Up view of women because you’ve never fucked one.

jesus, you fat roasties can be spotted from a mile away

t. kissless virgin

>a women is only useful for her holes
Women are truly liberated from male oppression

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Literally what other qualities?

Given how much i have seen and heard women make cruel and derisive comments about other women, I’m gonna say I agree

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only a bitter virgin would be bothered by this

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we let women pretend that they have agency

they'll simply become money-grubbing sluts if you let them

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cooking in the kitchen you nigger

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Baggy clothes are only popular when a country is in an economic boom because fashion companies can afford to use more material. It's why everybody wore baggy clothes in the 90s and then it went out in the 2000s

>patriarchy was propagated by women
the real red pill

This definitely has to be one of the mechanisms at play.

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Shut the fuck up before I backhand you w*man.

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Women have always been thots. Dont be such a pussy.

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You have the fucked up view of women, largely because of your porn addiction.

The proper view of women is as potential mothers, not cum-guzzling animals. If we take your view, it leads to slut-pride and empowerment of vapid cunts.

The women with the best maternal qualities, which has much to do with character and little to do with physique, should rise to the top over undeveloped sloots.

>or was it always a form of male oppression?
If women these days think like this, they are so wrong. At least I find it way hotter to see a good looking woman using discrete clothing than almost plain nude.

Modesty hasn't been abandoned. It's just that because of the internet, we're saturated with images of those who choose not to be modest. Like seeing leftist nutjobs on 24/7 infotainment networks makes you think they're around every corner(when they're actually not), you're fooled by media into accepting a warped version of reality.

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>women are attracted to status, success and military prowess
>women complain that men are obsessed with work, competition and violence

Maybe in fucking africa you dipshit spook

>Why was modesty abandoned?
Because it got hot outside

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ah, that's why Arabian women are running around naked and not in gigantic cloth-bags.

Television was a mistake. The Corporations, which were initially not held by, (((them))), took majority viewership, and over time began to shape public opinion through ads, news, etc.

It was extremely easy to shape zeitgeist because the world had never seen something like tv before, so whatever the ads and news deemed as "cool", "in", "hip", eventually did get recognition by the younger generations watching.

Read the Bible, buy some farmland, and disconnect from society.

>abandoned
Dormant is more accurate

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Somebody post the guy with the sniffing gun thing

>I like my women brown-looking and hairless just like a child

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Civilization is a form of male oppression. The more power women gain in our society, the less civilized it becomes, the more tribal.

Women are the niggers of gender.

This, and it's being ((encouraged)) by certain actors. Gullible retards merely jump on the bandwagon.

>He hasn't taken the brown pill

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>what are women good at?
Taking care of the house and nurturing the future generation, which is not by any means less important than what men do

Stupid people want things, but don't want to do the prerequisites. My parents wanted me to be successful and then they were confused why I spent so much time working.

Contemporary Western culture does not presently systematically discriminate against (or oppress women), nor has it done so in the past.

Men and women are differently psycho-physiologically constituted. This is just as much a psycho-spiritual phenomenon as it is a biological function. Both genders have suffered in ways that are broadly unique to their psycho-physical experiences. Probably, it is true that most suffering is quite general to the much broader human experience. In any case, neither gender has suffered more than the other—nor has one gender, at any point in Euro-Western history, systematically discriminated against the other.

Assertions to the contrary amount merely to neo-liberal, post-modern, Marxist propagandizing, whether consciously or unconsciously deployed as such.

Don’t be the Last Man.

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People need to realize that Western dresses and mens’ suits covered both sexes up about the same. Combine them with a hat and everyone’s protected, from head to toe, from the elements, shit on the road, rain, and the sun. Not only that, but there were varying degrees of modesty depending on occasion and era. Men’s riding pants in some European countries were tight as hell showed serious moose-knuckle in the 1800’s. See girls wearing tight leggings and Wellington boots? Men literally did that first. Some ladies’ evening party dresses nearly exposed the nipples and their corsets pushed the tits up- however, this had different connotations and sometimes semi-to-fully-exposed boobs even signified youthful innocence.

A note about corsets- women in the Western and Greco-Roman world wore corsets for thousands of years on their own initiative. The idea that corsets were a patriarchal invention is absurd and women wore skirts out of functional necessity. If you bled from your gooch once a month, and had weaker control over your bladder, and had to squat to piss no matter what, you wouldn’t wear trousers either.

Some more.

Men and women both wore stockings tied at the thigh or attached to a garter belt until sewing techniques progressed to wear you could make well-fitted trousers. Until then, men’s tunic skirts got ever shorter and you had to wear a dick flap/sock (codpiece) to maintain modesty. And you could squat right down and take a shit on the designated shitting street if you had to. This all happened in the 1500-1700’s. Trousers did exist way before then but they looked more like Aladdin’s pants, or tied-shut boxers, on account of global unsophistication in pattern-making.

*the jew destroys society

Modesty was a forced meme. See Otto...

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Proverbs 31:10-31 King James Version (KJV)
>Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
>The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
>She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
>She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
>She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
>She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
>She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
>She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
>She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
>She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
>She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
>She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
>She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
>Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
>She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
>Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
>She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
>She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
>Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
>Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
>Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.
>Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

Modesty was a male construct to keep women from being whores.

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modesty is caused by male oppression but sexualization is caused by toxic masculinity

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Go shave your hairy smelly cunt.

Fpbp

daas amazin!

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This. Birth control pills screwed up their hormones making them ugly and insane. Feminism made them entitled and intolerable where they rejected motherhood and domestic duties.

She looks terrible. She acts worse. She can't cook. She won't clean. She is incapable of bearing children due to brainwashing and chemical poisoning. So what is her last resort to sell herself to men? The warm hole between her legs.

Exactly. There is nothing more oppressive to a woman than not being a sex object in Chad's harem.

True liberation is fucking Chad without consequences and forcing Beta Bryan to foot the bill for your choices.

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The girl on the right is flaunting her secondary sexual characteristics because she is looking for a guy. One of you guys should show interest in her then wife her. But do you think she would make a good mother?

Anyway, you kids don't have to be petty about the fact that a girl is flaunting her secondary sexual characteristics. Just get with her and have a lot of kids to continue your lineage, that's your life purpose.

No, it never was "male oppression."

The patriarchy has worked for thousands of years. It kept women in check & prevented, or at least kept their hypergamous nature under control.

Then along comes Feminism/Assembly Women, pushing a matriarchy & are incredibly lazy. Of course, betamales, basedboys, & whiteknights kiss into the demands of the bitches, & because they have money & votes, they pushed the Feminism. Then as a result, you have women in the workplace, high divorce rates, broken families, racemixing, promisicousity, & a weak economy.

In summary, giving women a voice was a mistake & now we are starting to see unintended consequences of Feminism.

Lose women make a weak society

sippy bippy

It shouldn't matter if she is "loose" or not. These bitches want a guy to stick by them but they all get dudes who don't want to settle then get labeled as "loose" sometimes.
That's why I told you kids to not be petty and just get with them and have a lot of kids.

>fat sniffers
Oh god why have you left us in this misery of reality?

WHO IS THE GIRL ON THE RIGHT

i need her insta so i can help guide her back to the light of christ.

Some moments it hits me how messed up society is. It's so bad that the rebellious youth are watching fox news and demanding modesty, as the only method of rebellion left. That girl on the left is extremely attractive. But if I saw her walking down the street in a t-shirt and jeans, I'd probably think about how her face is chubby or her breasts are too small, or her ass isn't the right shape. It's funny how things are.

This is true. Do not forget about the pareto's law.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_distribution
Square root of the people involved do half the work. Most people don't do porn at all while a chosen few shoot multiple movies in a single day.

>Why was modesty abandoned?
because sluts get more attention from men

Yep, because men like it.

spbp.

My question is that if young girls are so easily manipulated, why are the Jews the only ones doing it?

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>Why was modesty abandoned?

Modesty was abandoned the moment women were enmass introduced and incorporated into work culture. Once women began to earn their own bread, especially by competing against men in the workforce, this began to lessen the need for men to be prospective mates of whom would bring financial security. This therefore brought out the worst in women; the primitive, cave-man (rather cave-woman) response to men where a culture of civilization is no longer a foundational value to be respected in contemporary mating ritual.

In other words, modesty, virility, chastity, etc. These are values [for women] that are cherished by civilizations where marriage(monogamy) is a prime characteristic of the growth and longevity. We don't live in that world anymore. Those values were only important because they were valued to be motherly, where men were valued to be fatherly. Now everythings so mixed that men literally cut their dicks to pretend to be women, and women perform lobotomy through indoctrination of feminism/marxism.

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Modesty only disguises whores and makes them more difficult to distinguish from good girls.

>seeing leftist nutjobs on 24/7 infotainment networks makes you think they're around every corner(when they're actually not)
They actually are. I have family members who are the most cliche dyed-hair tumblerette you can imagine. I overhear people talking about politics and even the ones that come across as fairly conservative will say something extremely liberal. You're denying them being a substantial part of the population because you haven't fully realized the situation. You're imagining that things are better than they are because you still have a mindset that anything can be overcome or achieved as long as you, personally, are good and try hard.

It disappeared because of weak minded men who think that if you act nice towards women and "respect" them ( aka getting her whatever she wants) and let her free without thinking about the consequences of her actions. Like, damn you westerners are really strange. I can't imagine here having betas and white knights, because everyone knows how much of a burden a woman can be. Its even worse when people like these think they will eventually get some pussy. Wut??! Who ever thinks that wasting money just to get banged is a good idea? Aren't hookers made exactly for that job? Maybe more beatings and rough punishment will be needed if you want modesty to come back.

That is a, 10/10 rear

Fuck off kike. Modesty is a cornerstone of western civilization.

This

>It disappeared because of weak minded men who think that if you act nice towards women and "respect" them

and this happened because of rampant single motherhood and divorce, coupled with hollywood brainwashing.

not just women, most people dont even think about these things. if people just thought "hmm, people followed this shit for thousands of years and this guideline appears in EVERY religion. Maybe this guy who says "fuck religion man" is wrong". most people just do what sounds or feels good though, not because its right

youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04

Literally jews pushing (((feminism))) unto women.

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There's a time and place for modesty and this is evidently neither.

"Haha dude you gay bro?" - t.vast majority of brainlet urbanite men out there

If we used to force women to dress modestly, it must mean that at some point in history we allowed them to dress immodestly.

But this never seems to have been the case?

This is a good point.

Fpbp.

One of the earliest known recordings of female degeneracy was on a tablet found from the ancient Greeks that is of a wealthy craftsman complaining because his daughters were dressing up like the temple whores to attract male attention.

Women desire attention above all else. It is in their instincts to do so. Being degenerate is simply woman's nature, as is mans nature to wage war and kill.

Putting on a sport coat is simply the warriors avoiding their natural tendency to rape, enslave, murder.
Women pretending to be modest is women avoiding their natural innate instincts.

Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.

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Basically women submitted to mens authority and monogamy with the understanding that everyone benefits in the long run by every man having the ability to put his energy to work for a family unit.
Now that the jewish central banking state has taken over the role of men, at the financial expense of men, women are now unrestrained, and they can return to their biological nature, and this destroy this tentative thing called civilisation.
It was never oppression; it was always understood that it is an exchange, sexual monogamy for the mans productivity.
That old system relied on fairly high IQ women that could see the benefits, long term, and accept the role. We now have low IQ, impulsive women, that can't see past their immediate attention whoring.