As you all know SD got 17,6% of the vote in Sweden. Which is still an increase from last time where they got 12%, however many people are disappointed because they hoped for higher results (ie 20%+)
Can someone write a prediction for Sweden politically speaking? What do you think will happen the next 5, 10, and 20 years.
Give me your most realistic bets and scenarios.
>What do you think will happen the next 5 years
Sweden will become minority Swedish in the younger generation.
>10 years
middle aged also now minority.
>20 years
Minority in all age groups
Do you think there will be any civil unrest? War? Or do you think the Swedes will just let it happen?
It depends on the current negotiations. If S manages to remain in government or form a new government with C, L and MP, we're destined to have a lot more immigration, more socialism, more gibs, while the welfare system is going to collapse under its own weight, especially when the current boom is over. In that case, SD is going to gather even more support, but C and L (if they remain in parliament after cooperating with the socialists) may shift the balance so SD are incapable of getting influence even after the next election.
If we get a conservative government, M+KD, the right-wing alliance would disintegrate, and we would likely see open cooperation between M, KD and SD after the next election. This government would lead to stricter immigration controls, less gibs and generally worse conditions for immigrants in Sweden. If they are unsuccessful in implementing their policies, it may backfire, and the left bloc will take over after the next election.
My feeling is swedes will do nothing and let the take over of their country happen.
But peaceful societies have turned to civil war over less, so you never know.
Only time will tell.
Either slow change for the better
Some outside intervention
Or eventual civil war once things start to collapse (spoiler it will if retards get to rule for too long) which leads to people actually manning up for once. It is only prevented by sheer comfort, people have it too good to not be mindless NPC's atm.
Hm, it seems that the leftists with Annie Loof etc will lead Sweden as of now.
Do you think people will riot? Or will they just allow this transition? I thought people were a lot angrier about the immigration than they actually were from the election results.
I mean SD:s all prioritized questions have been on top of all media stations for almost 4 years, daily. Yet only 4,5% more voted for them?
How many people are actually even dissatisfied with the mass immigration?
I am not disappointed because I didn't really expect much to begin with.
It's sween we're talking about.
It's not like we bully them for no reason.
This is absolutely horrifying.
>Hm, it seems that the leftists with Annie Loof etc will lead Sweden as of now.
I wouldn't count on it. It would be a weak position for Lööf and C would lose a lot of their core voters if they did this. She would also be completely dominated by S, and they would get very little political influence. Lööf's financial backers wouldn't like that.
An M+KD government would in some ways be better for C. Remaining outside the government would mean they would lose fewer voters, and they would have more political influence since they would be in a strong negotiation position with M. In many ways, this is a more natural outcome, but it may be too much for the voters to accept.
What are the chances of a government collapse and another vote in 2 years?
In 2 years or less than 2 years?
There are two points where there would be an extra election: If the riksdag doesn't succeed in electing a new PM or if the budget doesn't pass and the PM announces a reelection. The former if it occurs would happen in a few weeks, but it is is unlikely, because nobody stands to gain from a new election and it's unlikely that anything would change. The latter would happen in a few months if it happens, and is slightly more probable if the government doesn't manage to negotiate with the other parties before the budget vote. Even so, they could choose to remain with the opposition budget. S would not choose to do this, but M+KD may choose to do this if they find themselves in that situation.
I don't think this is likely. Because the 7 established parties are all united in their hate for SD and will do anything to keep them out - including leading the country together as one big human centipede.
No, this is very improbable. V would immediately be excluded and would never be included in a government by anyone. Even S+M+MP+C+L+KD is unlikely, because there's no reason for it and the negotiations would be extremely cumbersome, not to mention that it would cause SD to grow even more. It's much more likely that the right-wing coalition would be broken up and a minority government would take control. The question really is what exactly that minority government would look like.
there are more gypsies here than migrants there, sweden is a 1st world country and will remain so for a very very very very long time unless you all suddenly stop buying volvo and scania and gripens etc
the self preservation of rich westerners are far far higher than youd expect, if shitskins wont behave they will be eradicated, and they have every mean to up their own birthrates, we dont
autists crying about the world ending doesnt change this
religion/race war in +-5 years
How are you gonna apply -5 years when you didn't give a base value of five or higher?
Volvo is sold out to the Chinese. Swedes do not have any nationalism in them at all...
Do you think so? I was 100% convinced of this earlier. However after the election I get the feeling of that a lot of people are just very complacent, and quite happy with how things are going.
Are Swedes really going to go out and fight the immigrants? Or will they just let them take over. Kind of like how American's get abused by niggers all day long, yet their media narrative has turned it into that the niggers are the victims of "police brutality" when they are just more visited by the police because they are fucking criminals..
When will people wake up? I thought this was the chance to do so...
>However after the election I get the feeling of that a lot of people are just very complacent, and quite happy with how things are going.
Probably because we're in an economic boom, the refugee crisis is over (in Sweden) and people believe that S and M have altered their immigration policies so much that the looming demographic disaster has been averted.
No most sweedes are cucked. Thing is muslims hate us so no doubt they will eventually all go to attack. Just a matter of when.
You're right. I meant around 5 years.
Annie Lööf vill become next Swedish prime minister after attending the Bilderberg meeting last year
Last year, our PM unironically went in front of Parliament and said that we were developing plans to essentially quarantine ourselves from Sweden, using the military to protect our border, for when Swedens instability leads to a mass exodus.
And our lefty parties, except the literal commies, were in favor.
I see
A fucking Dalahäst-Merchant?
Saved
Because you’re a fucking idiot thats why all these non-swedes keep on yapping their fucking mouths ”swedes wake up”, do you realize how many arabs there actually is in Sweden? Sweden did mass-importing of arabs in the beginning of 1950s, there’s towns filled 80k population with arabs with no Swedes to be seen, they’re literally a minority, realize.
Volvo still develops and makes their cars here tho with swedish engineers and industries.
Plus it is majority not totally. Also Personvagnar is separate
I don't think Sweden can survive next 5 year. RIP dude.
Well I understand, but people can at least vote? I mean are there only 17,6% of Swedes in Sweden? Even if immigrants make up 20%, where are the rest 80%, why are not more voting SD?
Because all swedes actually work. Try getting up before 7am for once and watch how almost literally only swedes move through most cities to work while the arabs all roam town mid-day.
We are fucked on many levels but not a minority statistically
>even Norwegian leftists know Sweden is trouble
Jeez
What do Norwegians think of Fredrik Skavlan? He clearly doesn't believe in "the Swedish condition".
He's cucked beyond repair. Only brainwashed boomers watch him.
Depends. My guess is that if the economy crashes and, consequently, social welfare it is possible to see civil unrest. But if not, they'll just stand there while their woman get raped.
It was on the very down-low. It was in a semi-closed session, and to this day there has not been a single news article mentioning it.
I happened to just stumble upon it when I was reading through transcripts from Parliament that is posted on their website.
I don't know, it feels like a never-ending nightmare
SD will gain nearly 25% of the vote next time around and will become a coalition member with the so-called center right (which in Sweden is basically like our further left dems.)
This coalition will end up having no option but to tackle the immigrant crisis there and this will alienate Germany and cause instability within an already unstable EU as both Italy and Hungary also become increasingly separatist.
Oh, and because it was on the down-low, they could put partisan shit aside for something resembling "national security". Nobody, even the leftists, wants our country to go to actual shit like it has in Sweden.
All the crap countries hate immigration.
makes sense
It will happen at the next major, and I mean really major economic crunch, when the government has to seriously scale back benefits for people who have been unemployed for 40 years, or the national healthcare system.
As a point of reference, America is about 15 percent black.
Within a few years the economy will tank hard. Sweden has a huge housing bubble, the lowest growth per capita in Europe and its currency dropped 11% against the dollar this year alone. Hard times are ahead. Might be a blessing in disguise though since it might make the normies wake up and see the reality around them, plus a Sweden in a shittier state might make migrants think twice about coming here to collect gibs. One can dream anyway.
And one more thing. Our Labour party, the sister party of Socialdemokraterna in Sweden, went out after the Swedish election and said that SD getting so much of the votes is only natural, since they are the only ones willing to take the necessary talk about immigration and the integration of immigrants.
Quote for prominent member of Labour about SD; "It's a duty and right to demand immigrants conform"
So the Swedes are alone in their cuckedness. Their center parties has the same social policies as our Communist party. Literally.
> Swedes are alone in their cuckedness
We were never alone
What possible realistic reason do you have for believing that all ethnic swedes would want to vote SD or for that matter that no non-ethnic would vote SD?
Sure, SD didn't get as many votes as people expected that they would but this was the worst election for S in like 100 years and the Green Party barely made it into the riksdag. Change doesn't happen over night but rather slowly if not glacially, especially in a consensus-focused culture.The fact that the respectable parties even publically discussed immigration as something that needs to be fixed is a huge sucess for SD in the sense of normalisation and respectability. Untill the next election SD is likely to become even more mainstream, especially if the alliance starts some light/passive cooperation with them.
SD's priority during the coming four years should be to fight and influence its way to becoming a mainstream party which on its own will lead to an increase in its share of the votes as less people will deem it taboo to vote for them.
The only downside is that the Left Party is likely to also grow in influence and power as it will squeeze itself in to the role of anti-establishment in response to a normalised SD.
FFS, Swedes get it together! I'm Jewish, I've been watching wtf has happened to Swedish Jews for years. We're the canary in the coalmine. You should have voted for Swedish Dems way before now. But no, you didn't CARE that the Swedish Jews were being harmed!
FFS, get it together & get Jimmie Akesson in there now! I think you're going to have another election in 3 months anyway. More will come over to the Swedish Dems.
Thank goodness.