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>Texas state tech for welding
Gross. This moron could've done themselves a favor by going to Tulsa for a few months. Tulsa Welding School is the most highly endorsed welding school in the land.. and it's probably cheaper than the shit he paid for.
You need 2 years to learn welding?
No but that's how modern education systems are set up.
You need 1 year of 'review' and 1 year of practical training in your field.
Children should be taught how to read, write legibally and basic math. After that, every course of education should be whatever they desire.
Teachers past 5 grade are a waste of time and money. We need TRAINERS not teachers, one can learn just fine without a teacher. Of course this would also require some extensive IQ tests after 5 th grade. Anyone not reaching three digits, is sterilized and sent to be an assistant for the other students who can actually make a difference.
>Children should be taught how to read, write legibally and basic math. After that, every course of education should be whatever they desire.
... was about to say it would result in a voter base that has absolutely no idea how economy/country/history work, but on second thought it can't be worse than what we have now.
Why dont they include that in these skilled trades you're working 70-95 hours a week to make that amount? I've done it. I ate, slept and lived my job and made 10k a month as a supervisor of a cnc shop. Its nobodys fault that a teacher didnt apply herself to the same job.
They never wanted equal opportunity.
They want equal results, with minimal effort
>write legibally
Highly skilled welders are more in demand than glorified babysitters.
Imagine my shock.
Obongo's been taking credit for the economy, I guess this would be his fault, too?
>Waaaaah but muh humanities are important
Intellectuals are babies because they dont produce anything people want so they shame people in to buying their brand of group think
Could you read it?
Do you know what the word means?
Nigger.
Bring back the Medieval Guilds. Can you imagine the quality and craftsmanship that would fill the land?
trade unions are basically the same thing
who the fuck made up this mess? just take the four symbols in the upper left - WUT?
Need more, many many more. MOST of the shit people go to school for they never actually wind up doing. Unless its high tier like MD or law, otherwise 4 years and 80k dollars worth of useless "experience" and they wind up in a field with little.or nothing to do with what they studied. Plus add folks like myself can deal with a goal. Im starting MA school soon. Lots a fat ugly bitches in the field, am disapoint.
Welding pipelines has a massive amount of liability they don't tell you about. If a pipeline bursts and kills someone and they see that the weld was the failure point they can prosecute you for negligent homicide. Happened down in Corpus Christi a couple years ago.
>speling and grammer arent importent if u can reed it
>MOST of the shit people go to school for they never actually wind up doing
yeah, shits fucked.
A year after I graduated my university emailed out an online survey.
After I completed it, it showed the total results for my graduating class.
40 something percent were unemployed, and another 30 had jobs completely unrelated to their field of study.
And that was just within the college of engineering.
Id imagine its probably much worse for the other departments.
>Technikley iys knot.
Tell me you dont know what that sentence means?
If you cant figure it out, you must be one dumb nigger.
Context is more important in writing. Grammar is more important in speech.
Im not using spell correct, I dont know how to correctly spell every word in the english laungage from heart.
if your trying to say this is difficult, a normal person could learn this entire chart in less than a week, having it down cold
Its just another industry. Money making bullshit, that does more harm than good.
Remember, debt = slavery. And student loans NEVER come off your credit unless paid.
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Be a scuba diver welder. Read an article a few years ago about guys doing this in places like NYC and Boston and other cities on water. Make stacks of cash cuz danger duty. Plus you make raycis OK hand signs underwater.
There are way more teachers than are needed. And many of them are not good. But to be honest how good the teacher is, and the funding/quality of the school does not affect how well the kids do anyway. They think their job is more important than it is.
those who know do, those who dont teach,
I defend this because this lady apparently lives well beyond her means to not be able to pay bills.
Half of my family are teachers and do just fine.
Don't punish someone who made a better decision by researching job/skills market.
>useful skill vs. useless skill
>No thanks
Mr. Friend's gonna be dead or dying by the time he's 55.
>using poor spelling and punctuation because “fuck it, who cares?”
>calling anybody a nigger, ever
Yes, I could understand what you wrote. I can also read Pidgin English and understand what they are trying to portray. That doesn’t mean that proper spelling and grammar are not important. Maybe you are the nigger.
Its basic economics, a country can't run on liberal/office jobs alone. Dirty work still pays a lot especially if its high demand.
Most of us probably will be regardless.
lifespans between generations are going down pretty fast.
Mean wage for a teacher in Kentucky is over $50'000.
She could rent a nice house and only spend 30% of her salary in most major cities.
My guess is that there is more to the story here.
What does she spend $25'000-30'000 on every year?
(Assuming she pays big city prices for food and housing while earning median wage as preschool teacher)
That's still fucking awesome.
Pressure differences are amazing.
>making a typo, or ONE spelling mistake makes one a nigger
Wut up muh nigga?!
Fucking kike leech. Maybe we should pay BOTH our trades and teachers we'll? It doesn't have to be a dichtomy
>Having a skill that is high demand and uncommon pays more than a job anyone with half a brain can do thanks to standardized testing and standardized textbooks.
Wow how terrible.
>raycis OK hand signs underwater.
What?!
>make a post talking about how only the fundamentals are important
>fuck up the one of those fundamentals in making the post
No amount of name calling and damage control will fix the fact that you're not very smart. I'm sorry that this fact caused you duress in high school, causing you to disregard the entire institution rather than accept that you have a below-average IQ, but my sympathy does not mean that your post wasn't amusingly stupid. You should accept that and move on with your slightly-above diagnosably retarded life.
But trades are objectively more important and useful than a teacher.
Maybe become a trainer? They make loads of money, same idea, worth more.
Lets be honest "teaching" only works for a very small number of people, most either are too dumb, or too smart to have someone vomit information at them and expect the vomit to come back.
this is a basic 8 bit mips risc processor
this is considered elementary
welders are useful
>calls me dumb, doesnt realize IQ has no connection to spelling
K then low IQ nigger.
Its a thing, I was spelling b champ three years in a row in my elementary school, ask me verbally how to spell something, i get it right 99% of the time. Writing it myself, it doesnt come. Doesnt bother me, you are the only dumb nigger EVER to be confused by my writing and or grammar.
>also thinks laungages never change or evolve.
Now your just backpeddling and trying to take a higher stance because you think that too will bother me...nope.
Youre just ignorant.
I mean, you lost the second you attacked my spelling and not the argument, you know that right? No, I dont think you do...see ignorant.
I spent 6 years in school studying my ass of and thumbimg through mountains of peer reviewed literature to teach myself my craft. I'm 24 years old, 4 months into my career, and left alone on a 30 bed unit overnight tasked with the responsibility of making sure nobody dies. Teachers across the state make my salary after 3 years of experience despite working 8 months a year. Fuck teachers and fuck New York.
Let's review all of the ways you made a mockery of the English language during the making of this post.
>K
>Its (possessive form, missing apostrophe)
>a thing
What is a thing? Be more specific, leaving the subject of your sentence open-ended makes your overall argument unclear.
>i
>doesnt x2
>laungages
>using a period at the end of a greentect
This isn't an actual grammatical rule, but it's considered a faux-pas on this site.
>your
>... nope.
This is not how you use ellipses. A better sentence would have been:
>You think that projecting an air of superiority over me because you make less grammatical errors somehow hurts me, or my argument. This is equivalent to an ad-hominem attack and lacks real substance.
>Youre
This is especially perplexing, since you got it wrong earlier in the post. Do you type forms of "your" at random, hoping to get some right by chance?
>dont
>do... see ignorant.
Again, this is not how you use ellipses. Also, "see x" is used to refer to a footnote, reference or argument, none of which are present in your post.
I hope you can appreciate the time and effort I've put in to improving your writing.
Obviously.
this
the problem with teachers are the unions. its a huge risk to hire anyone because after 90 days it costs a shitload of money to fire them. on top of this they get fixed annual raises until theystart making like 85+ aftet 20 years. this is the reason ehy new teachers make so little, and why the education system is generally inneffective
>t. public school fag
your a fag
No one is confused by your spelling mistakes or poor grammar. It’s the fact that you don’t seem to care that proves you’re an ignorant nigger. Maybe take the time to review your writing before posting instead of just vomiting word salad. Not sure how to spell something? Look it up. Also consider adding apostrophes in your contractions. Apostrophes are like commas but floating ‘.
Making the occasional typo is ok. It happens to all of us. However, refusing to improve your writing and continuing to use your gutterspeak because “that’s good enough” is pathetic.
Welding metal is far more valuable than warping young minds.
white trash
Stay mad nigger.
>I have a masters degree
Totally unnecessary to be teacher in America. Preschool requires an associates and K-12 requires only a bachelors degree
>16 years of work experience
So what? some people have 30 years of fast food service. Don't go into a low paying field.
>donate plasma to pay the bills
maybe look at your spending, maybe consider changing careers if you don't like the pay.
Fucking Americans don't realize that fun jobs like teaching pay less because there are more people willing to do them. I loved my job when I worked in education, but the pay was $10 an hour, so I switched and now I work a job that is still enjoyable but in high demand, now I make enough to pay all my bills.
Part of being an adult is knowing when you cannot afford something, and she cannot afford to be a teacher.
Youre just a diamond dozen cuck who has no argument other than
>hurr durr you dont speel gud
Get lost kid, the accurate exchange of ideas is paramount, and you are just showing everyone in this thread what a pathetic loser you are by attacking the only thing you feel have you dominion over.
Did your creative writing teacher pat your head yesterday or something?
I worked in education, all the "shaping young minds" crap is just something the unions put out when it is time to talk about pay raises. The cold fact of the matter is that a lot of people want to be teachers, so many people want to teach that many don't even need the money. Most teachers are married women (or men, but usually women) who make less than their spouse.
Basically, it is not a job that someone does for the money. Because of how many teachers there are, people can pay them less.
Basically, what they do is valuable but lots of people are willing to do it, and do it cheap. That is the reason I went into my field instead of education.
>Youre
You couldn’t even make it one word without fucking it up. I would agree with you that understanding each other is more important than perfect grammar or spelling. This is especially true on an international forum where many users have English as a secondary language. However, many of our international frens use this board to practice and improve their English skills. Your shitty writing does nothing to help them. They might even make fun of you for writing like an ignorant ape and refusing to improve.
>diamond dozen
Ok, you got me. Nice one.
>continues to prove his opponent's point.
You are a literal retard. Just end your life now before you have to suffer the humiliation of moving back in with your parents.
Pic related.
It’s a blessing in the skies really
supply and demand, bitch
Welders aren't paid to fix a lost cause
>muh degree
Unfortunately in the US schools teach nothing of value and so teaching can be done by anyone. The academia-complex maintains degree standards so they can continue forcing people to get 'educated' but the actual value of the job comes through in pay anyway, meaning the teachers get screwed over twice by capitalism.
The welder is needed to maintain the means of production.
The lesson is dont fall for military industrial academia complex scam.
Look nigger. I have an academic grasp of the english laungage. I like to play with it because I can, and yet no one NO ONE has ever asked what I meant when i say or write something like
>where you be at is
Im mocking it, and you are still a cuck who needs to focus his energy somewhere more productive. Attacking a persons spelling or grammar when you understand what they are saying is disengenious and makes you look pathetic as you habe no other counter...obviously.
It saddens me that I have to explain it, but meh. Part and parcel I guess.
Is habe a word? I dont get the squiggly red line with it
I somewhat agree that attacking one’s spelling or grammar when you understand the meaning is a bit “disengenious.” Maybe nobody had an issue with your original point, and the guy that initially called you out for “legibally” was just making fun of your spelling. That’s certainly not an argument, but probably wasn’t meant to be anything more than a troll.
You had a few options following that response. You could have ignored it and taken the note, called him a faggot, or do what you did and sperg out a response just absolutely littered with more errors. Instead of quietly improving your “laungage” you decided to claim your argument, which nobody is challenging, is still valid despite these mistakes. That’s true, but doesn’t change the fact that your unwillingness to even attempt to improve your writing makes you an ignorant nigger.
Teachers are vile and disgusting. They should pay the rest of society just for existing.
I doubt welders have to fix processor chips in general...
>defend this
Teachers get summers off, every weekend, half days, holidays and only work 7am - 4 pm in a controlled environment with A/C and heat. Etc.
Welder is working 6am - 6pm. No summers, no weekends, no half days and maybe Christmas off. Out side in the cold or heat or in a welding shop that is over 100 degrees. Also, he only gets a 30 min break. Etc.
>gg ez
>American teacher
They are memes, they follow core curriculum which is another meme.
Agreed, 99% of them are brainwashers
I'd do it just for the salutes
can the little old mexican lady weld while hanging from the side of some bullshit 50 feet above the ground/water?
How precise can she weld a new part for the "pimped out" 1972 Nigger Mobile that her nephew Paco Esteban drives?
Can she do literally A N Y metalwork?
Or is her specialty in replicating textbooks onto chalkboards and doing basic maths to do out grades 4-5 times a year?
Sure in 500 BC she would have been a great respected teacher, because everyone and their son was a smith, but only few could ponder the truths and teach them.
Now its 2018 and everyone and their mother has access to the proverbial Library of Alexandria in their fucking pocket, and you're surprised that regurgitating 20 year old textbooks isnt in that high demand.
>500 years of "become a scholar, work with your mind, not your hands ;))))"
>WTF WORKING WITH YOUR HANDS IS WORTH MONEY NOW?
the "teacher is underpaid" meme is a myth. a teacher's average salary is $60 k a year, spread out if necessary over a three month vacation time.
remember, 60 is an average. there are plenty that make far more.
however, there are a number of problems that are unrelated to their pay.
>they have no real life skills
i can't tell you how many teachers i know that spend money like it was water. that buy cars/houses/vacations far beyond their means.
>they are surrounded by kids all day long
this is something that sounds dumb, but most teachers never really think about. dealing with 30 + kids 9 months a year can wear a person down - it's like a cop. they get burned out, then lazy, then bitchy. it's not an excuse--they should have known this before going in. it's just an explanation as to why there are so many entitled, bitchy teachers.
>the administration is garbage
above the teachers there is a government structure that is completely broken. principals, superintendents, etc all making GOBS of public money and tuning their back on the teachers below them. yes, teachers are bitchy, but the administration is the real issue in any school system.
Not a jab, just an observation. But you dont have anyone special in your life do you?