Why isn't Libertarianism as common as the other ideologies? I mean, i just found out something about it on the internet

So you just proved his point. What makes "ancap" any different then?

While that might be true, our primary problem is Jews infiltrating our societies and slowly killing us.

The truth is, we could survive under pretty much any system as long as there are no Jews.

Incorporation is a government granted status, you can quit a corporation by not buying their shit, cant do that with governments. So no they wont

you have a point

>Jews infiltrating our societies and slowly killing us.
But what's wrong with that as long as I have my bread and circuses. A nation gets only the Jews it deserves.

You could kill every Jew on the planet, but it will NOT solve the problems that allowed them the power they have in the first place.

It didnt prove anything brainlet. Government entities dont exist if you abolish government.

There is no Libertarian praxis. All talk no action - a definition of meme ideology.

Yes. Moreover, societies without Jews, and societies that expelled Jews, for some reason, were quite shitty, which disproves the claim hard.

>Why isn't Libertarianism as common as the other ideologies?
Because they spend 24/7 in their homes reading papers or trading on the computer as opposed to dedicating their entire lives and careers to converting the world to communism like the average leftists.

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It's basically the best system you could imagine. It's a problem the state has to enforce crony capitalism and steal all our productivity, under the guise of protecting us.

Pol gets spammed with anti-libertarian sentiment as an honest money supply and small government go against (((the agenda))), but Natsoc keeps government big and jews victimized without actually being a threat to jews.

Its like a cyber rabbiwhatchadoin'? move

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Jow Forums used to be libertarian a few years back. Then happenings started to happen and people realized libertarianism has the same "just do whatever you want" philosophy of liberalism which is exactly the cancer destroying the world.

Anyone advocating a real money supply cant be "a jew scam"

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So in other words you actually have no idea what you're even saying or trying to say. Got it.

>be wealthiest person in the country
>hire a shitload of "private security" to "protect my properties"
>decide to invade weaker business-owners one day
>oops there seems to be a government now

Says the Jew with the Jewish memeflag.

>"just do whatever you want"
This is the problem. Fucking idiots actually think this is libertarianism.

Libertarianism DEFENDS liberties for all. If what I want to do infringes the rights of others, its unlawful. Just like common law. Common law still applies.

This is a common mischaracterization that gets spammed on pol because libertarianism is a threat

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>all talk no action
>ignores countries that rank highest in any economic freedom index that have improved their standards of living through freeing up markets

Shame you can't do drugs in Singapore, though

Because a state will arise in every society because it is in a businesses best interest to create one and regulate its competition into oblivion while it forces its products on its members. Ancaps and most sreict capitalists imagine everything will be mom and pop shops selling things at a fair price, and paying their employees such, as opposed to whining about freedom to hire whoever ypy want and accepring a bunch of 3rd worlders to not pay the market share of the nation they operare in. A company or business that no longer serves the public trust can be just as bad as it is profitable. Overall, a bit better on paper than Communism, but still not pragmatically attainable as it is thought.

We all used to be libertarians. Used to be...

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Because libertarianism (for the most part) is a step-stool ideology for young (mostly white) men. Most of us here were libertarian at one point in life, but have since moved on. Libertarianism sounds great at first but it has inherent contradictions and flaws that become impossible to ignore after awhile.

One day you wake up and realize that there are things more important than your own personal happiness and that's the same day that you leave libertarianism behind forever.

>What's the most important thing in your life? - Dr. William Pierce
youtube.com/watch?v=IPyvlOUkCug

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It was only a couple years ago that there were libertarian threads on this board all the time. Then we learned that war sometimes requires sacrifice.

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Singapore is in no way Libertarian. It is a pragmatic authoritarian city-state (not a typical country, a financial centre), whose internal economy actually almost completely managed by its' government.

Because it's Dumb American: The Ideology.
At least communism has intelligent Germans and Russians behind it.

Says nothing but meaningless triggered ad hominem.

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>Nat Soc isn't a threat to jews
kek, tell them that

>big/small government false dichotomy
The size of the government is basically irrelevant, what matters is its efficiency. A small government that does not protect its people is worth the same as a large government that doesn't protect them, nothing.

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just as retarded as communism
0 working examples

>Singapore is in no way Libertarian
That's why my drug comment

>whose internal economy actually almost completely managed by its' government.
... what? Singapore is number 2 in the Heritage Index of Economic Freedom. As free as it gets nowadays. What you say is a total contradiction

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Libertarianism requires integrity, honesty, independence and productivity. Therefore it could only work in a small, homogeneous white society.

From Social Democracy to Communism, there are dosens of examples.

I wonder why that could be?

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>Why isn't Libertarianism as common as the other ideologies?
Because it won.
Any mexican, jap, pol, poo or german has the right to take your job if he is better

beacuse it is a shity ideology that ignores human nature

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>dozens of examples
no there aren't

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>Why isn't Libertarianism as common as the other ideologies?

Because even the dumbest normie realizes that there needs to be standards and regulations put in place to ensure that society doesn't collapse.

So what? I am talking that, factually, internal utilities from water supply to airports are state managed, while it offers trading space for international corporations.

>Therefore it could only work in a small, homogeneous white society
except no white society ever was libertarian

>Stateless classless society that has a state and classes.
Incorrect.

It's more common than fascism

that wouldn't be good for business so it wouldn't happen

> do stupid shit like that
> private journos profit from reporting it
> internal leaks of your doings become worth their weight in gold
> average person can become millionaire by licensing video evidence of your bullshit
> ancap populace is disgusted and memes your actions worldwide
> everyone stops buying your shit
> funding disappears, your private police leave.
> private courts can become wealthy because your dumb ass just made convicting you morally valid and profitable
> private prisons can become wealthy because your dumb ass just made imprisoning you morally valid and profitable
> you become posterchild for tyranny and your face and name go down in history as the epitome of retardation
> private medicine keeps you alive for a thousand years and advanced VR tech makes it possible for each new generation to learn about history by experiencing it and they all get to watch your retarded world domination attempt fall apart over and over again for eternity

oh and other rich people have police too so mutually assured destruction keeps everyone in line.

Only governments can afford to be tyrannical because they keep fleecing people to do it. The wealthiest company right now is walmart, if walmart tried to take over the world with private security, all funded from consumer goods sales, how long do you think that shit would last? Cmon dude, everyone boycotts and it all falls apart overnight. Cant do that with governments, you'd need armed resistance.

Communism and Marxist Social Democracy as political systems have major and sustained presence on the world stage and incredible achievements. You have to be a conscious demagogue to deny it.

>just do start up your own google dood

only about 10% of the is l to understand the Truth.

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There's a big difference between saying "whose internal economy actually almost completely managed by its' government" and saying that some goods and services like water, electricity, gas are provided by government. With the former it seemed you implied that Singapore had a centrally planned economy, which would be a total contradiction to the facts presented in the index.

Seems too good to be true.

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Sophistry and excuses, not a shed of practice or applied technology.

As Descartes say, you can use sophistics to validate any given statement. Too bad it really is just a waste of time.

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yeah no.

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>Populace must be ancap too, and will magically have a moral compass, so poeople leave
People dont give a shit, theyll gladly buy from rulebreakers, your whole scenario is as utopian as communism.

>that wouldn't be good for business so it wouldn't happen
but what if the rich guy dosent care about his business? just look at Soros he has been losing money but he doesn't care he is ideological driven not economical

> ancap populace is disgusted and memes your actions worldwide
> everyone stops buying your shit
If this were true then most of the most profitable corporations today would be out of business. Lolbergs take the textbook definition of "informed consumer" and apply it to the masses when in reality it's more like 1 out of 1,000 even remotely care about anything while the rest make knee-jerk decisions based on price and availability.

This is magical fairy-tale thinking, not at all reflective of reality.

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Close the boards fag and then we'll talk about it.

Because most people who were attracted to libertarianism realized that it could only possibly function in a country free of societal ills, and that the source of those societal ills is a non-homogenous society.

We won't be seeing it in practice again until there's a new frontier like Mars where civilization needs to be built. Too many worthless leeches and good goyim afraid of freedom.

Not as political systems, or else it would have to satisfy its two main goals, establishment of a stateless classless society for Communism, and owner means of prodiction for socialism (which has merely ended in state control of the means of production) you do not satify your own defenitions for your society .

Libertarianism and communism are just different sides of the same coin

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>politics is one-dimensional guise
Yeah...nah. Fuck off with that retard-bait D'Nesh.

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this man gets it

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not an argument.

You're literally posting this on a device that's an example of capitalism working, on a site thats an example of capitalism working, fed and clothed and sheltered by capitalism. But no, there are not practical examples or applied tech around you.

But sure, lets have the USSR or Venezuela or Khmer Rouge build our laptops and shitposting sites.

I do not know how the index is managed (and it may be an entirely agenda-driven piece)

It is a fact that the city itself is highly centralized, and is operated mostly via State Corporations. As a Financial centre, it accomodates many international companies, of course, but they do not operate the city, only receive certain financial services from it.

>monarchy (rule by one)
>usually exists as oligrachy
wtf?also why is anarchism on the right?

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It's too hard at this point to remove (((them))) though. We have to thrive in the system they created.

edit: inb4 shut up cuck shill

>goyim won't print money to pay me interest

This makes no sense, inflation is bad for people who live off interest.

>be alien lizard-race
>have futuristic planet-destroying death beams
>decide to wipe out Earth with said death beam
>oops there seems to be no government now

Checkmate, statists! The implausible hypothetical I pulled out of my ass shows your system is pointless!

In reality, the richest person in the United States (Jeff Bezos) only owns less than one hundredth of a percentage point of the nation's GDP. The decentralization of wealth and power among millions of individual and corporate actors in a capitalistic economy is a natural safeguard against the monopoly of the State. The only reason that piece of shit monopoly is around is because we've been fooled into believing it's 'necessary', much like ritual sacrifice among the Aztecs.

Indeed.

Yep. Also modern Republicans pretty much adopted Libertarian talking points so that furthers the duality. When you talk to most Americans (even here since the reddit inflow) and say you're not fine with the banks or big corporations they immediately assume you're a communist.

No, it wouldn't. Historical Materialism states that it is impossible to establish utopian society ad hoc. There were no utopian Liberal or Feudal societies either, it doesn't mean those societies weren't Liberal or Feudal.

Libertarianism is idiotic because it thinks it can just do away with power and politics by naming the institutions that yield power business instead of government. Power will be held nonetheless and since it can't be abolished it must be taken.

Yes they will. If there is no government than there is no guarantee of reprisal. If there is no guarantee of reprisal then there is nothing stopping me and my neighbor from putting together an arsenal and enlisting talented individuals to come under our leadership and then proceed to lay siege to your village, with the terms of surrender being 80% of your crops every harvest season. And then when you think the neighboring villages might come to your aid we would kick them 30% of your newly imposed tax to mind their own business.

And, just like that, you have yourself a new government. Anarchy only works in everyones favor if everyone thinks and feels the same way. It relies on the same fallacious thought pattern as communism.

I would thoroughly enjoy it. But, like I said, if you are not strong enough and organized enough to repel a larger and unexpected attack then you are going to wind up not having a good time.

Because Libertarians are unfeeling autists with a strange new facisination with Hitler.

Yes - Libertarianism is being attacked. This means its a threat. Small government and a sound money supply will end (((the agenda))).

Its a threat

Libertarianism encourages homogeneous societies to form by giving people the ability to self segregate based on personal preferences. Its socialist policies that forces association between groups that wish not to coexist. Bring back the freedom to discriminate and you will bring back homogeneous communities.

>wouldnt be good for business
The fuck you talking about? A newly acquired slave caste would be fucking great for business.

The Republican stances on Abortion, War, The death penalty, gay marriage, and many other issues are not libertarian talking points at all. Especially the foreign policy bit.

youtube.com/watch?v=brW33lG29X0

Im not arguing it to be utopian, just fall under the defenition of what the creator of those theories had stated would satisfy the label of communist or socialist. Neither has been done.

Small or no government is rightwing. Thats why anti government gun fans live out in the woods or in compounds and are self reliant and self sufficient. Leftism is big government and big brother looking after you.

Pol gets spammed with anti-agenda media.

That image is an example of people being pulled out of poverty. They work there because the alternative is worse. You show progress and call it prison. The reason they are caught in that situation is because they didnt have capitalism 100 years ago and are starting developing later. Western nations went through this phase too it was called the industrial revolution.

Most profitable corporations today would lose a lot of their profits because big daddy government would stop providing corporate wellfare and barring the little guy from competing. So referencing the current state of things is meaningless, governments have fucked everything up.

If according to you people cant be informed about what they buy, then they equally would be as ignorant as to whom they vote for. So which is it? Are people retarded or not?

You're pulling these numbers out of your ass. Most people are informed consumers, you literally cant buy peanut butter without decided and comparing against 5 options. Unless you're brain dead capitalism forces you to become informed on the nuances of every product.

And yes they would be incentivized to become informed if the one company tried to tyrannize. Because its tyranny, the hypothetical implies that it affects them.

For economics*
My bad.

giving unlimited power to corporations sounds really bad

Capitalism is, of course, a stage of human economic development, even if it is melting down right now, as it should.

Ancapism has nothing to do with any of that at all, whereas Social Democracy shaped European societies, and even America a bit, and Communism did China, which produces a bunch of those stuff.

Internet, btw, was developed as a state project for state institutions entirely.

Libertarianism is globalism, all the SJW shit going on right now is pushed by international companies because they don't give a damn about homogenous societies, they want the biggest consumer base possible and they need to make everyone the same for that to happen. Your little homogenous apartment building will be invaded by waves of advertising telling your kids that they really are trans, that Muslims are your friends, and peer pressure will force everyone into submission just like it is doing now.

THey are in control of the whole money supply. They dont give 2 shits about none of it. The money system is a tool used to maintain control and milk the goyim

Takes some intelligence to grasp it.

Hurr durr, I mean HUERR DUERR, brazil monkey abolish a central bank my dude, see power vanish into the hands of the people.

In civilized society the vast majority of people are law abiding and fiercely violent against anyone trying to wield any power.
It takes a huge amount of indoctrination and fraud to create the reality you speak of, turn of the magic money faucet and you'll have anarchic bliss within months.
The reason for marxism and its promotion was a fear among the rulers of europe that anarchism was gona be the prevailing ideology of the 19th century, so they made a strawman, socialism, where they could remain in power.
Dumb monkey

we basically already have this shit

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>small government will end (((the agenda)))
No it fucking won't. The kikes will just incorporate and continue to import 3rd worlders for cheap fucking labor or they'll pool their money and become crime lords (with no police to stop them) or they'll funnel private money into a communist revolution (like they did in Russia) which they will control.

International capitalism and International socialism (communism) are just two sides of the same shekel. Internationalism = Jewish control, the only defense is nationalism and a national government strong enough to stand up to them.

youtube.com/watch?v=OBo_KAF4to8

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