>>THE USSR IS: >10 kopecks cost: >Ice-cream "Berry" >A glass of tomato juice >sandwich with boiled sausage in a cafe >movie ticket for a children's session >1 kg. potatoes >a bottle of soda water "Bell", "Pinocchio", "Forest berry" (???) >fresh can of mayonnaise >travel in a taxi for 1 km. (until 1973) >can of tooth powder >a pack of tobacco >button for school uniforms >contour maps (grades 8-9) >cosmetic petroleum jelly "Mink" >Hematogen Tile >mustard plaster >string (3 pieces, synthetic / metal) >tobacco snuff (50 g)
>11 kopecks >Belyash with meat in the cafe and dining room >literary newspaper >centimeter economic >note-book >ice-cream "Eskimo"
>12 kopecks. >1 kg. carrots >children's soap >empty bottle from under the soda (0,5 l.) >empty vodka bottle >atlas of the history of the USSR (grade 8) >TV plug (antenna) >half a glass of sour cream in the dining room >comb comb
What would the exchange rate be? I was born in the US, but my parents immigrated from the USSR before it collapsed
Robert Gonzalez
Sure you didn't have Pepsi and Spearmint bubble gum and 'fashionable' murcan clothes, but you had actual food, not tainted by any corporate profit boosting chemical. Fish, meat, eggs, milk, bread, you name it. Shit was healthy, bottle of milk had only one ingredient - whole milk.
the commie food was ORGANIC
In commie times we used to have bakeries on every corner. Now they all are closed and supermarkets instead of them with plastic bread in plastic bags. But I know place where fresh bread from commie-style organic bread factory is sold it's very good. And I don't eat white bread.
I'm from Poland and I really miss my local commie bakery.
Best bread and buns I ever ate, plus it's the only place that will sell you food at 2-6 am when you're going back from a party being hungry as fuck.
>communist chocolate was 100% natural and made with real butter >pirates privatize and replace butter with margarine, vegetable oil and force the company to compete with hersheys shit
when pirates privatized the communist industry they replaced our quality products with competitive shit
in poland communists had bakeries everywhere producing wholegrain wholesome organic bread for almost free
now the competitive westerners replaced it with chemical and air filled cotton white bread
Jordan Gomez
sometime post 60s life might have been okay if you lived in Moscow or the surrounding cities, but for many of the isolated regions out east life was pretty shit. not to mention how many of the satellite put into power absolutely abhorrent leaders
Jayden Nelson
>everything is subsidized no wonder it collapsed you dumb commie boomer
Life in Soviet Union summer up in one sentence. Everyone is dirt poor, except the nomenklatura, who seem to be allowed to be capitalist, while advocating communism to the masses.
Jack Thompson
>I was born in the US, but my parents immigrated from the USSR before it collapsed found the jew
Adrian Rodriguez
>USSR
Where vodka is cheaper than bread.
Landon Gutierrez
Yeah the food was so good people waited in line for hours just to get it.
Leave the US then you stupid faggot why are you still here?
Jonathan Collins
>you didn't have Pepsi It has been manufactured in several WP countries, in Hungary since the '70s.
Carson Peterson
The trouble wasn't the prices Ivan, it was the fact that after lining up all day with your 10 topkeks the berry ice cream was all gone.
Zachary Howard
What I'm getting is that potatoes cigarettes and clothing are cheap but eggs are expensive as fuck
Blake Turner
It's funny that in Sweden the socialists "socialised" the food distribution and worked against lokal production for the benefit of centrally produced food production.
>Live pre 1970 >Have 1 household average wage >Support 3 children and a housewife >Have a house and car >Have a quality standard on that one wage
The food you are talking about was the normal in the early 1900. It's not a commie thing but an overall development where we are slowly getting less in quality and quantity for our labour
Also from Poland and i miss my local butcher
Jose Ward
You forgot >20 kopecks >Russian prostitute
Blake Lee
Why was Poland so much better then Russia at communiism?
Ryan Johnson
OY VEY!
Leo Davis
>posting prices in a heavily subsidized economy where every price is a blatant lie being held up by rickets and bullets when someone points it out Honestly stop, you're so fucking retarded its unbelievable ivan. Go drink vodka while fucking tigers or some shit, because this is stupidest evidence of the soviet union being good. Its about as stupid as the empty hotel the norks never finished in order to try and have the tallest hotel in the world
Jason Kelly
It's all good, until your money is worthless. >See every socialist/communist in history
PS: China is not Communist, just like North Korea is not Democratic.
Black car comes in middle of night, masked men break into your home. Drag all men out of house, never seen again.
Ryan Sullivan
The fuck is a kopeck And the gulags never happened? Starving people cause of farm landgrabs that would make SA blush? Soviet union did a literal Zimbabwe where they replaced competent farmers with cityfolk because of feefees
Wyatt Barnes
>soviet leadership is retarded >have to convince what few allies we have that communism is great and they needn't leave for EU and NATO and shit >reallocate resources, Russia is poor as fuck despite producing most of everything and all other parts of the USSR like Poland, eesti, Georgia are Fucking raking it in and enjoying free gibs It's that simple
Sebastian Williams
1 Rubel = 100 kopeyka
Lincoln Lopez
Kinda like the UK desu except swap government for brown people.
Oliver Brooks
>OP isn't a reta-
Jose Reed
>1 post by this id >Russian proxy kys
William Richardson
Stop shilling, Boris
Jace Stewart
>Ice-cream "Berry" Not milk or cream base >A glass of tomato juice Watered down and made from tomatoes about to go bad >>sandwich with boiled sausage in a cafe don't want to know what's in the sausage >a bottle of soda water "Bell", "Pinocchio", "Forest berry" (???) carbonated tap water >fresh can of mayonnaise made with industrial oil
You get the point. I can't speak for the USSR, but I know enough about East Germany. The only things made well there: Playing cards, chess sets, mustard.
Jace Rivera
>can't chose your job >can't chose where you live >can't travel further than Tajikistan >3 TV channels peddling Soviet propaganda >stand in line 4 days for a tube of collgate >dentists drill you without anesthesia >everyone is depressed >can't listen to music or movies other than (((state approved))) >Have to fly to Moscow to get bananas >spend every free kopek on american goods smuggled in illegaly
TY SHE NURKAMAN SHULI?
Lincoln Ross
>be soviet kid in school >1990 >go to (((cafetria))) >what do you have today? >Slices of pickled cucumbers >what else? >it's all for today >I will have sliced pickles please >it will be 5 kopeks
t-t-t-thank you...
Zachary Reyes
how can anyone argue for the economic merits of the soviet union? it succeeded for 10 years post great depression because of the command and control economy, then once the world came back online and they didn't have fabulous excess wealth to fund their unsustainable system they became a cesspool? do we literally just look at that short period and claim 'huzzah'!? if I spend my life savings over the next month does the fact that i'm living like a king in that instantaneous moment make me financially savvy?
Listen: The only place people really had money in the west was the US and maybe Australia. Europe was dirt poor and nearly as communist as the USSR. If you were well skilled you could have a pretty good life in the east. The education system was excelent. If you had a talent they would tell you and make the best of it. The system was very elitistic. Though corrupt as fuck
Nathaniel Foster
>hurr durr anything that doesn't conform to my alt-lite GOP priors is a slide thread Kill yourself, neoilberal.
Robert Mitchell
>no it wasn't that bad soviet shitsholes like Chuckcha villages in the far east recieved money just for being in the soviet union.
Michael Price
pepsi is actually one of the first companies to knock on the soviet market
Oliver James
i can't wait until the eastern europeans find this thread
Why is an empty bottle of vodka more expensive than a sandwich?
Ian King
except no one had any money lmao
fuck off russian shill
Ryan Cooper
Most people are unable to understand the world at all because they don't think in statistically pertinent terms. Say you hear that third worlders are starving semen slurpers, what does that mean? If it's the entire population, and if it's 10% of the population in some village, it's obviously a very different matter. Our sources of information doesn't care at all to specify this though.
Some cultures' dentifrices are pastes, others are powders.
Kayden Morales
How much tooth powder can I get for 30 topkeks?
Luis Morris
historical city cucks
Jonathan Miller
The soviet union actually had a lot of serious problems on the ENTIRE NATIONS scale, for example the ENTIRE population of Chechenya was deported to Siberia. But this mostly had to do with Stalin and Beriya. Western capitalism is cheeky because while we have destitution among us visible everywhere, it's always partial, while the Soviet Union actually succeeded in eliminating things like homelessness, almost completely. American's are also an extremely "cultish" population, who believe that anyone who is not in grace with the system is neccessarily not in grace with god, that anyone who is poor is immoral/lazy/anti-social and this caused their predicament. It's actually very hard to come up with a fair comparision between the two systems.
James Carter
Just enough to brush the forty keks off.
Daniel Scott
>who believe that anyone who is not in grace with the system is neccessarily not in grace with god This. Calvinists need to be lined up and shot.
>Soviet Union Another shitty Russia thread by shitty Russians.
James Wood
Whay better than endless threads from yankee useless goyim rats complaining that they're parasitise not enough upon the achievements and contributions of American Jews.
Nicholas Hughes
>Where vodka is cheaper than bread. And you could actually find it on store selves.
The USSR was envious of American excess, Capitalism gave birth to the consumer market, before that, people exsisted in a mostly peasant class commune style living.
Today the world enjoys mostly wasteful by Commies standards, pocket computers.
It "failed" because it didn't let people borrow money like America does
Sebastian Gutierrez
Gommies get out.
Samuel Hernandez
If there's something commies are right about that would be housing and health Which is exactly what current america suck at.
Thomas Anderson
>housing and health >Which is exactly what current america suck at. How you figure america is less than soviet union in those regards? Fuckin bernie faggot you are misinformed millenials gtfo my board
Andrew Murphy
>defending us medical system No wonder why pol had become full of a bunch of egocentric manlets
Hunter Rodriguez
>Goy, America is a land of freedom, >but one must pay for college tuition,insurance,rent,mortgage,repayment, etc. first >if not, you're going to be sent to jail
You are defending your terrible heatlhcare out of pure chauvinism
Ryder Adams
0.60 roubles for 1 USD was the official rate, but only for those heading abroad were allowed to exchange a limited amount of roubles at this rate. The black market rate was from 3 to 25 roubles depending on the year and the location. But one could get a bullet in the head for this—unauthorized currency operations were officially a capital crime since 1960s.
So yes, the life in the USSR was horrible, unless you are a delusional millenial who doesn't remember it even as a kid.
Kevin King
I lived in the USSR. Specifically in Abovyan, Armenian SSR. Fuck you, communist rats. Sure everything was a fairytale wonderland if you believe their lies. Scratch the surface and you'll see horror and stagnation underneath it all. But hey, at least we showed the west we can make a nuclear arsenal too! R-right, guys?
Ryan Morales
>Moron >Shill
Pick one
Caleb Green
>PRL >Free gibs You are deluded, the USSR was praying on all Eastern Bloc countries, by importing both raw materials and equipment on fixed, disadvantageous prices, and by forcing all countries to buy products of soviet industry at the same time throttling their own. Look up Jacek Karpiński case.
Kayden Gomez
The real question is >"Boiled sausage"
What sort of boomer boils their sausage holy shit im so glad I was born 3 years after this shit fell
Adam Butler
>Still believing Soviet propaganda
If the USSR was ass you describe why did they have to build walls with guns pointing inward to keep people from defecting? Why did soviet citizens defect at a 10000:1 ratio relative to the westerners suffering under the evils of capitalism going the other way? Why did most of those socialist westerners (including Oswald) return to capitalism countries after experiencing how shit things were? Why did the Soviet president shit his pants after visiting an American grocery store and was so convinced he was being put on he made them take him to another random one and then cried about it? Why did millions of citizens across the USSR protest the regime and demand free markets?
shure you had great prices but why don't you fucker mention how much stock was there? why don't you mention that 1 person had half a bread per day allowed and 3-500 grams of meat depending on the great leader benevolence ? why did you not mention how the benevolent mother russia bought tons of food and raw materials from it's other "coarades" at a very discounted price, almost free
David Russell
80s was the age of optimism everything seemed to be ok back then right until they know about the bitter taste of capitalism Look how things have gotten worse in the east germany
>Tfw every market is full of food and you have to go check 10 more to verify it´s not capitalist propaganda. >Tfw a supermarket visit by a commie ends up collapsing the URSS
Everything was provided regardless of quality and you could even get drunk in the workplace and they couldn't fire you, because ''there is to be work for everyone''. At worst, you were transferred somewhere else. Everyone had a job and was paid equally regardless of your talent, skill or will to work. There was little incentive to work hard or to excel. Some collective farms managed to become well-off, but those were usually composed of former „kulak” class (diligent hard workers), were ethnicly homogeneous and were located in rural areas. There was unofficial „blat” system which meant having right connections could get you rare goods and advance in queues. Wearing western clothing (jeans etc.) and having western goods increased you prestige, but made you a target for a potential robbery. Yes, living wages were decent nominally, but it had little value and you couldn’t buy much, because most of the time there was nothing to buy. You had to wait in queues for a car for 5-10 years, unless you were a party member or had good connections. And this „standard of living” was only post-Stalin era. Education, healthcare was free, but of questionable quality. In medicine, there was constant lack of technology and tools. Only education worth its name was in hard sciences, but only because brightest minds were recruited to work for military industrial complex or space industry. Then there are former communist party members and military personnel (officers etc.) who long for Soviet times, because being part of the system had lots of benefits - travelling abroad, western goods, high paying and prestigious work positions etc. And not always because of competence or skills. Many party members were random workers, military personnel, farmers (most imported from USSR), some locals (including artists).These types usually climbed the ranks due to their ruthlessness and greed, not work ethic. Artists mostly joined to secure advantages for their careers.
