True Marxist here to enlighten you and push red pills up your sphincter.
>jews control the world >the elites control the world
>diversity is a push by globalists to cuck our wives >diversity is a push to homogenize the workforce
>Jews see us as cattle >The economic theories pushed at the turn of the 20th century homogenized labour and capital thus making us cattle
We are the same in a lot of ways so I'm here to bridge the gap.
Before you respond note that the majority of alphabet agencies funding before the millenium went to shutting leftists down. Autistic trannies and BLM fags came to us after the occupy movement and 2008 crisis out of nowhere - we have been psyoped as much as you.
You're either a filthy t*urkroache or a fucking leaf.
Justin Peterson
there isnt real communism as long there is leaders, rulers, or it goes system like North Korea or 1984. That's why we need to get world ruling (((bankers))) and debt out of power! After that every system could work.
>le kike thread Why are jews gaslighting so hard lately? They seem to be freaking out.
Bentley Gutierrez
Why are Americans too afraid to even consider anything Marx said? Decades of brainwashing?
Brody Smith
At least you're not larping.
Did you eat any tasty spiders for breakfast today?
Julian Jackson
Marxism is a materialist doctrine abolishing all spiritual elements. It destroys heaven to make man a god. It is a religion of self-worship, it is jewish. How's that for brainwashing you dumb commie dipshit.
Christian Jenkins
>founder of Marxism was a jew your opinion is invalid jew puppet.
Brandon Bell
I disagree.
Capitalism encroaches all aspects of society. You comodify every aspect of yourself under capitalism. Sell your personality on youtube, sell your vag on livecam, sell your ability to identify a fucking car just to post on this thread.
How can communism compete?
Andrew James
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis
Show me where I advocated for capitalism you NPC retard. You didn't even address any of my points which are absolute fact. And that's without getting into the sociopathic mess that is Leninism or Stalinism.
>Marxism is a materialist doctrine abolishing all spiritual elements. What is more materialist then capitalism - I really am curious how you came to this view. Work hours have gone up since the 1970s - pay has stayed fairly stagnant. We are working the same for scrapes of what our fathers earned.
>Marxism is a materialist doctrine abolishing all spiritual elements. I dont know man you have to explain this one
>It is a religion of self-worship, it is jewish. How's that for brainwashing you dumb commie dipshit. Just make a point I can work with - where is the self-worship and where is the judaism? We work for each other - a trait which is lacking right now
Carson Price
I don't care how alike you think we are, fuck you commie scum. I wouldn't even entertain the idea of going for a "enemy of my enemy" temporal agreement with you fucks, I'd have to be looking over my shoulder every second for the blade directed at my back
>but this time it'll work. Okay then, you can have a little communism... aaaaaand OH GOD THEY JUST MADE ANOTHER GENOCIDE AND THE REST ARE DYING OF HUNGER. >who the fuck would've known.
Commies are retarded utopistic cunts. >BUT BUT with the rise of AI, the technological singularity approaching, we will have to make a change in the way Capitalism functions, and introduce a universal revenue.
That doesn't mean going full commie like retards in this thread. But busting your ass off living paycheck to paycheck will slowly disappear, as robots and AI take over the workforce.
Prevision say that in 2 or 3 decades you could have as much as 50% of US jobs taken over by AI and bots.
Fully Automated Luxury Communism is the only realistic communism there will ever be.
The rest is Bullshit that any serious economist can't prove wrong.
No private proprety, no ownership, no competition, that's a dumb as fuck system.
We strive for the best. While communism strives people downwards so that everybody is as poor as the poorest motherfucker.
Since you can't pull people upwards, you push everybody else downwards >Communism 101
It’s materialist doctrine since Historical Materialism is the basis of Marxist theories, but a) it doesn’t mean what you think it means, it’s just an approach on historiography (I can elaborate if you want me to) b) it doesn’t advocate abolishing all spiritual elements. You’re just parroting bullshit you heard on Jow Forums. >It is a religion of self-worship, Because attaining class consciousness and UNITING the workers is totally a religion of self-worship. Just curious, but what’s capitalism, then? >it is jewish. Lol
Jayden Ward
>The rest is Bullshit that any serious economist can't prove wrong.
phd in economics - try me
and I want to respond to the rest of your post but it kind of isnt directed at me. Just give me one question that you would need to be solved for you to be a commie... or 2 or 3 but just give me something instead of that copy pasta strawman stuff
I'll make you one offer. You can side with the ethnonationalists regardless of your race and be guaranteed protection and a job should we win the war, and we'll have all sorts of great state funded benefits like free healthcare, education, training for skilled trades, etc. We'll build up the national infrastructure using a system similar to the Works Progress Administration to modernize everything from roads to the electrical grid. We'll take it in 5 or 10 year chunks, and we'll have close to 100% employment.
However, you're going to have to deal with the fact that we're still going to allow the ownership of private property. There will be cheaper government owned housing for people to rent in the big cities, but there will be plenty of rural farms and other land owned by citizens. All citizens will not only be allowed but encouraged through tax breaks to own firearms for the defense of themselves, their property, and the nation as a whole.
We're also going to stick every last faggot, jew, antifa, and other assorted types of shitlibs into wood chippers.
The first step to communists being uncucked is to realize that trannies are liberal cia psyop. Commies cuck way too much for trannies
Asher Gonzalez
> Be Karl Marx, support the American System and write dissertation on the work of Freidrich List. > Move to London, gets radicalized in Freemasonry > Join British Library spook network > Created a perverted economic model in opposition to Freidrich List, whom you previously admired. > Lists model makes America great, so great it beats Marxism. > Marxist larpers are clueless to who Freidrich List is.
Carson Richardson
BASED
Jaxon Brooks
Who the fuck are you talking for? Dont you realize that there is a power there that will stamp on you every time you try to make a "prosperous alternative" to this bullshit? We marxists have had that around the globe. Think bigger...
David Allen
You will be spared a helicopter ride
Oliver Cooper
>still debating him as if he was propping up capitalism this is your brain on a diet of dog meat it's proper that communism took root in asia, befits insects like you
Leo Cox
US national here enjoying the wonderful adherance to culture and tradition here. Try harder...
Daniel Green
well fuck then that means that your diet must've been at least on par, and you still couldn't even properly answer that user even when he pointed it out for you not gonna make it
Brayden Ward
I have a company, I have a fairly decent portfolio both on the S&P500 and im crypto... As far as im concerned - ive made it. Im trying to help you and everyone else user
as long as lefties refuse to name the jew i wont take you guys seriously. ypu dare stand here and say globalists and jews suck but you will gladly fill their agenda whem youre comuting with your edgy friendx from "uni"
Aaron Gray
I think the "Jew", while maybe accurate 70 years ago, is a way to avoid real class analysis and actually plays into the "anti-semite" defense that has been around for years.
If gorillas found some way to conquer the human psyche then I would not say it is the gorillas fault but rather say that there is something inherantly wrong with our system of governance that allowed that
Lincoln Robinson
Ok, I'll make it fair and easy : >Meritocracy is an essential part of Human Society and Economy, that Communism can't intergrate >Without Meritocracy there is no competition, no reason to do better.
So you should be defending the position that "Humans don't need meritocracy". And also defend this position : "you can achieve more when applying Equality of Outcome, than when applying equality of opportunity"
There, I gave you really basic economical debates and issues.
And BTW, I do believe in redistribution of wealth, if it wasn't clear the first time around. So that's not the subject. Equality of outcome. Defend that. I'll be waiting
Then you're more like Nazbol you nigger. Communism itself is faggot without nationalism
Zachary Murphy
gorilas havent beeing manipulating human psyche for a hundred years gorilas never psyoped humans to destroy each other in ww2 and gorilas are not protected from human retaliation neither they are considered Gods chosen apes
so you basically willingly avoid the JQ to blame it on class struggle?
Carson Bennett
communism is faggotry no matter what. nazbols are just more comprehensible than regular commies or god forbid anarchocommies
Andrew James
FIRE IN THE HOLE
Jaxson Wilson
>Meritocracy is an essential part of Human Society and Economy, that Communism can't intergrate Yeah sure.
If you want to see a real Marxism go to a Zapatisata Town in Caiaphas. Totally independent town with their on Health Care and Schools 0 Money from the government or IMF.
It's a small Town and low on resources but all they want to do is live a peaceful life not conquer the world.
Let's kick out some Jews and put other Jews into power? Yeah, I'll pass. Thanks though, the billionth 1 post by this id thread sure is refreshing.
David Jackson
I agree with you. Thats why i'm a sraffian marxist: So lets take a coal heap - if anyone owns that coal heap then they have a monopoly on coal in that region. Clearly not good for free market capitalists and not good for marxists either...
So if we publicly own all "base resources" - so everything that is at the start of every production chain. then we can produce what we want from that and ensure that equality of oppurtunity is satisfied.
How would that look on the blockchain? The same as how the gold standard looked - we are producing x of this and x/2 of that - so the ratio of this to that is 1/2 - and now we can be very precise about how the ratios of different base resources work without having beurocracy
I'm a little bit drunk so if i've made some glaring mistake then please confront me.
Julian King
Marxism is such a bizarre cult. They see the entire world in the Socialism vs Capitalism paradigm. When people like you and I and many here reject this idiotic dichotomy made up by some kike in the 19th century, they have nothing, their brains freeze and then they start repeating themselves or start arguing against strawmen that exist only in their demented heads. It's surreal to observe such insanity.
It's like some guy comes up to you and starts saying how team A is soooo much better than team B at some dumb game, but you tell him that you don't care, that the game is fake and gay and that he should fuck off (and preferably die), but then he starts ranting how team B is soo bad and you are bad because you support team B.
Christopher Thomas
no, i wouldn't
Colton Bennett
based
Hudson Ross
:hammer: NaM based VietNaM
Daniel Lopez
I have lived in Romania for a bit - I have heard elderly people mention Ceaușescu while i was there.
I dont personally follow that dichotomy and to me Hayek is one of the biggest proponents of what I beleive in - survival of the fittest for currencies. With blockchain I understand how that can happen for a communist ideal
Juan Morales
>let’s scale a functioning society of 25 faggot retards to 8 billion people
>what the fuck could possibly go wrong
Charles Kelly
imagine being from asia and believing the bullshit some autistic freeloading kike diaspora came up with in his opium stupors.
The only useful thing ever in (((leftypol))) threads:D
Noah Cooper
cept they murdered people and tried to take over the country and got btfo'd stop trying to lie to people
Owen Collins
I'm mostly okay with what version of communism you want to put forth. Having base ressources as common goods is fine with me. But then also begs the question of who gets to distribute these collectively ressources and to whom (which company, or even a single worker)
>The same as how the gold standard looked - we are producing x of this and x/2 of that - so the ratio of this to that is 1/2 - and now we can be very precise about how the ratios of different base resources work without having beurocracy
There I have an issue, putting a certain value based on rarity. But this vision forgets the Offer and Demand aspect of economics.
As for example: >you can produce the same amount of wheat than corn >wheat is twice as demanded as corn. Therefore even though we produce both equally, wheatbis worth more because the demand is higher than for corn.
Otherwise the rest of your arguments seem ok.
Liam Peterson
>Lets Unite Hmm yes, now what shall we call this union of nationalism and socialism...
This. Communism is a jewish con to rob and murder naive goyim.
Easton Flores
read "das kapital", read "the jewish question" and then tell me its all a plot
Chase Miller
The judaism is in the financing and leadership of european comunist revolutions.
Kayden Flores
Because I have read them I can assure you its a plot.
Parker Scott
>no one has made gommies.com for real
Grayson James
A global revolution won't happen until the third world is industrialized, which won't happen because of modern western influence Not to mention that boarders won't exist within an actual communist model because competing countries = bad t. MLs I also don't like the allowance of cultural degeneracy that would be indulged National socialism can be summarized to tribalism on a national scale. There's a ton of reasons why it's ideal but this is the easiest reason to explain why
trade one jew book for another jew book? no thanks. Marx co-opted communism for (((them)))
Charles Clark
the former communist eastern europe is still white and patriarchal compared to the debased Western Europe. maybe communism wasn't bad after all
Jordan Ortiz
Thanks for a good read on the DAO.
But it doesn't talk about Market Structure, Offer and Demand. It only talks about Investments.
I wasn't calling into question the ways that capital can be agglomerated. I was talking about the Pricing of Goods.
You said that value should simply be based on quantity produced relative to Gold, using the gold standard as basis for value.
I disagree and say you have both Offer and Demand that need to be accounted for when setting the price or value of an object.
So yeah, kinda lost on what you were thinking when simpky redirecting me to the DAO page. Unsure of what you meant by that.
Nicholas Ward
lmao only colombians think this
Dominic Smith
why are they so small lmao
Justin Parker
taiwaan namba waan
Kevin Morales
Imagine the powerhouse Russia would have been if communism didn't take over and wipe out most of the economy, culture, and a good chunk of the white people. We wouldn't be in this mess. Also, the USSR is the reason all this leftist bullshit started here in the west. They started the subversion process by helping get commie professors in the school system.
Brody Martin
I want to have the fruits of my work at my own disposal. Which means that I dont like commies. Pretty simple.
Daniel Reed
>What is more materialist then capitalism - I really am curious how you came to this view. Work hours have gone up since the 1970s - pay has stayed fairly stagnant. We are working the same for scrapes of what our fathers earned. Communism is a system built entirely on the envy of what other people have. That's the entire idea behind it. How is that not materialist? Also, central banking is the cause of the stagnant wages. Ironically commies and leftists teaming up with the global elite is the reason we got a central bank in the USA.
you forget that selling nudes was only made possible after sexual revolution.
Evan Rogers
you arent really discussing what economical system is better by using the argument that the other is more materialist are you? Ofc an economical system is designed with materialistic intrest in mind!
Connor Fisher
All communists deserve the rope
We have no desire to be slaves to the Jews Gtfo
Ryan Gomez
that is because they dont have enough money and cant afford being faggots.
Kayden Reyes
The important fucking questions lol I guess we better be careful Antifa Manlets might actually break away with the w lol
William Thomas
Marxism is overwhelmingly Jewish and has destroyed more countries than any other ideology.
Correct. But you're missing the part where you follow an ideology created by a jew that would return you to feudalism with the state replacing the feudal lord.
Juan Gutierrez
Marx was a fucking Jew, you niggerbrained cuntstain! His best buddy Engles was another Jew, one who liked to rape children! Your ideology was designed to turn the masses into cattle while the Jews rule over you, you fucking imbecile!
>forcing ideals, ways of living and dictate how you should act Yeah...No. I took the libertarian pill long ago, any form of govern control over the liberties of their citizen is oppression. Let the natural selection and the market get rid of the garbage.
