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(((They))) are certainly TRYING to subvert Japan but Abe fights back.

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>maybe watch anime

Unless it's some mainstream shit I think you're that just ends up reading like a weeb's wet dream. I mean there are def female otakus over there but don't try and pass off 'Oh yeah all these qt3.14s are only interested in marriage and anime and are fit and attractive and oh they like gajjin too'.

I just got a virgin Girlfriend here a few weeks ago, so I can speak from experience and from hearing from other guys, girls being virgins in Japan well into their 20's is something that's extremely common. Sure not all women will be like that but the rate compared to any white country is absolutely ridiculously good.
Technically it remained stable for the last 2 years but before then it has been increasing for 10 years straight.

t-that's literally rat utopia - the human version

jesus fucking christ

from my understanding the high rate of virgin women is related to the women being uninterested in relationships or sex in any capacity, commited or otherwise.
Honestly the relationship would be great; a wife who just doesn’t care about sex, won’t cheat, won’t make unreasonable demands. Just keep your family going, let her relax at her leisure, raise the kid and let the wife to her own devices.
My wife, conversely, is from China, and demands more than a kid ever could. Word of advice; however many kids you can afford to raise, marry a Chinese girl with the understanding that she takes up two of those slots.

It tends to be be more mainstream shit but also some more less known shit too, it's not considered weird in Japan to like anime even for girls unless you just go full hikikomori

Not saying they're all 10/10s either but Japanese people are at least always skinny and their women are great at make-up
It depends on the women, a lot of Japanese women focus on their careers so they may not have as much time for that. That being said, the wall will hit just as it will for any women and they'll usually find a relationship and start having kids before they get too old in their 30's. Really just depends on the girl

You didn't say it was higher than Japan in the past. You said it was higher than a lot of E.U countries. W R O N G

>Italy 1.3
>Greece 1.3
>Croatia 1.4
>Germany 1.4
Keep in mind other countries like U.K. and France that are higher are also are heavily boosted by their immigrant populations

I can tell you as a mommy here in Toronto the white birth rates are that low.

I was at a neighborhood function a couple weeks ago and there were shockingly few children. There were 4-6x more retiree aged people than under 18s. I live in a suburbia type neighborhood so you would think it would be full of young families. Millennial age people are deferring children, I think the average millennial will have zero or a single meme child.

Cities historically have negative population growth. Before sanitation infant mortality was ridiculously high. Now it's by choice. Even 1st gen Muslims rarely have more than 3.

Maybe it's not such a bad thing to purge the hedonistic genes

IMO Chink immigrants are going to be a somewhat necessary evil, at least they're way better than Muslims and Blacks and can actually integrate

Tits or GTFO.

Chinese don't integrate, they take over. It would be a mistake to let them in in any number. They drive up cost of living by jacking up real estate prices with their dirty money and suppress wages, further suppressing native fertility. Compare average home price in Toronto or Vancouver to Tokyo. Not to mention they have even lower fertility than natives, so importing them for babies is just retarded.

The only sustainable solution is to throw the boomers and bankers under the bus, do a massive debt jubilee and restructure government and tax system to cater to productive young families

A lot of that mostly true for big international cities in general, not just Tokyo.

Forgot to add, some of them are literal card carrying communist party members and worm their way into positions of influence to commit espionage

Is there any legit study of boomer problem?

IMO Child birth should be heavily subsidized, along with all other related things like child leave, Japanese Govt is toying around with it now.
There's a lot of evidence that most of the reason the fertility rate is low is due to economic factors artifically lowering the fertility rate.

Man I can relate to all this shit when dating a girl from Hong Kong. When we first met she was cute an innocent, so it came to a surprise to me when I found out she fucked over 50 dude's back in her home country. After 3-12 months of dating she pretty much ticked off every point in OP's image. Lazy, entitled, bossy and would only put out if she wanted something. Went with her to HK for a few months while she was living close to family an I got a very shady (but lazy) job teaching English there. During my stay I saw all the things that OP described, the fucking women get worshipped by every beta, while only the 10% get pussy. I was lucky to be a 6ft white dude who stays in shape so I got off easy with her friends (by got off easy, I mean they managed to treat me like half a human unlike the rest). But anyone who is smaller, darker, less attractive than they perceived, they would just look at you like a piece of shit.

Seems like all the bars there were all working together, because a girl could get free drinks at a different bar every night on a 7 day rotation an never pay a cent. The girl I was with apparently didn't even work from ages 18 to 19 because shit was just that fucking easy for her. The second I came to my senses I did a 360, an walked the fuck away with zero fucks given. An I never dated another Asian girl again.

The cunning asian girl isn't a meme anons, it's alive an very active. Sure there are nice east asian girls around, but honestly, if a Asian girl is only looking for a white guy to date, there's a 99% percent chance she's probably trying to meme you anyway, don't fucking fall for it.

>Endless supply of hot Jap pussy if you're a Chad.

I-is this true? How will a blond haired white gaijin who lifts and has nice body like me fair?

You'll do pretty well as long as you're not autistic
>dating Chinese girls
That's your first mistake user. Also meeting girls outside of bars and clubs works wonders, I met mine of a dating app and she's a Qt 3.14 that draws her own manga.

Subsidies don't work. Canada gives upwards of $600 a month per kid and extensive maternity leave and still has lower fertility than the US. All that free money just jacks up real estate prices and goes straight into the pocket of a banker

Subsidies always take from the productive and give to the unproductive. They will always have a negative impact. It would be better to lower the tax rate on households that have minor kids to almost zero.

Gynocentrism kills all it touches. The West hast socialist gynocentrism while Japan has Tradcon gynocentrism, the end result is the same.
Abe improved the situation there somewhat through incentives: by implementing tax breaks and subsidies for couples to have kids. This helps, but is not enough on its own to fix the situation since no amount of money is truly enough to make most men sacrifice everything. At the end of the day this is just slowing the collapse.
RIP Taro-san.

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I don't think so, those subsidies are probably counteracted by the high taxes in Canada along with living costs. There's a few towns in Japan that subsidize child birth and have a birth rate over 2, so I think it's possible if balanced right

Perhaps, but i think I can draw similarities, seeing as I've lived in Japan for a while too. She is the best example I have on hand. Obviously not every east Asian is like that, but there are lots of women there that fit the stereotype that OP described perfectly. An I was unlucky enough to get caught up with a big community of those girls.

>Beta Taro
>Japanese Chad
What is the Japanese slang word for Chads?

Most of my Jap friends tell me the problems in Japan are the same as in the west it's just that the media always spins it as UUH LE FUNY JAP MAN JERK OF TO THE ANIMEY XDDDD

>living costs
When people have extra money they use it to compete with other people who have extra money. The major source of competition is real estate

Section 8 raised rent prices, ended up benefiting shit tier poor at the expense of working poor who couldn't quite qualify for section 8. Almost all the "extra" money from women entering the workforce went straight to house prices.

The only subsidy I could see doing would a one time cash bonus for families who already have 2. It would help to make college free and merit based, so people know if they did their job right and raised a bright kid their kid would be able to go to college without financially ruining the family

Reproductive age people without kids should be taxed at a higher rate, maybe use some kind of sliding scale starting age 25

People who didn't have kids shouldn't be eligible for old age programs.

inst the immigration growing every year in japan?

nips about to get BLACKED and WHITED

It doesn't help that most Western media sources, when talking about low birth rates, always point to Japan and say
>"wow look at all these weeb losers not fucking! XD"
Even though Japan's fertility rate is higher or comparable to every other developed country.

Nobuchada?

Takayama

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>Reproductive age people without kids should be taxed at a higher rate, maybe use some kind of sliding scale starting age 25
>People who didn't have kids shouldn't be eligible for old age programs.
You would really punish those who are simply infertile like that? gas yourself un-ironically

It is, but it's almost all from other Asian countries like China or Vietnam. I live in Kyoto though, and you'd be surprised how many white people live here.
I think the general problem is that people assume the Government will just somehow cover their retirement costs even if they don't have children. We have to go back to the "have tons of kids so you'll be safe when you're old" method.

It's unlikely that this is because of the subsidies. More likely those select few villages do not provide women with enough opportunity to follow alternative paths.
You will never EVER accomplish that in the city. EU countries have tried the same thing and it never worked because it's too easy for the average EU citizen to move to London/Berlin/Paris and just suck nigger cock for a decade while working on her career. Russia tried the same thing and achieved positive birthrate in most of the country except where it matters in Moscow and Saint Petersburg because there girls are too busy "focusing on their career".

That's obviously written by a salty white MGTOW queer, disregard 100%

don't listen to the gaijin they are always deluded freaks who won't acknowledge the flaws in japanese society

>I met mine of a dating app
>somehow better than bars

You can literally be born without reproductive organs and have a child with donor eggs/sperm and a surrogate. Infertility is just an excuse.

It's not hard to weed out the sluts and the ones with no personalities.

>"have tons of kids so you'll be safe when you're old" method
Yes, start with the Boomers. Cut old age programs to what can be reasonable afforded by millennial tax payers

People need to see Boomers suffer for their financial profligacy and not having kids

kys

I don't think this is necessarily true, it's not that more people in cities are focused on their career, but that it's simply more expensive to live and raise kids in cities. That's why Japanese Government is currently investing in things like daycare centers due to the lack of easy access to them in major cities.

Rural areas can help make up for the lowered birth rate in cities, and since there's a lot of people in cities any minor increase in a city's fertility rate will help the overall nation a ton

There are Muslims in every multiculti city who were the 6th of 10 kids and within 1 or 2 generations they have the same number of kids as whites

There is something very anti-family and contagious in the culture of a large city

This is why Ethnic purity matters, in Japan they can potentially successfully integrate these types of reforms due to the ethnic purity, in most Western countries it'll just be taken advantage of by nigs/muslims/gyspies

been to japan and had a japanese gf. The fact that you compare western women to japanese ones is like comparing a yugo car to a lambo. Best relationship of my life and only broke up because I can't leave my job where I am now and move to Japan since I don't know the language yet. If you stop meeting sluts in Roppongi and meet them in the day in the train or almost everywhere if you are not retarded they are very open to talking. Most women at their 20s are virgins. I hardly know any western woman above 13 that is attractive and hasnt sucked at least a dick.
The final red pill is WMAF. Hence why the kikes fight it with all their might. Western women are degenerate sluts and there can be no saving them. Japanese woman are where it's at. If you are not a moron and act like a man a japanese woman will appreciate it because she is surrounded by japanese men that are very timid because of their culture. So fuck all the kike propaganda that "Japanese women are the same goy pick a white woman"

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If you don't want to believe me, try asking girls in your local college why they aren't settling down and having kids. I guarantee you that not a single one will say "oh it's just too expensive". Every single one will say some form of "im just not ready yet! I'm focusing on my studies so I can get a good job" or "oh I just haven't found the right man (read: wealthy man)".
Also think about the daycare thing: who is that for? Clearly for women who work. A stay at home mother would not need daycare. Clearly then even the financial argument also boils down to women working.
I'm telling you, it's already been done the same way in many countries and it just never worked.

Naturally. Because you CAN have a lot of kids in the city if you tighten your belt and live within your means. That's what the first generation does because that's what their culture has wired them to do.
Then subsequent generations follow the examples of the West and start focusing on their careers.

Women working makes the financial situation worse.

First, most of them work meme jobs that are somehow subsidized by the government, so higher taxes
Second, the extra money in the budget goes straight to competing with other dual earning households for real estate
Third, lowers wages across the board

Women not working is the problem, it's a culture thing in Japan for women to stop working when they have children. This sounds beneficial but it's not, it means couples know they'll take a big financial hit on kids and many can't afford it. That's why paid family leave is important for both men and women, and also allowing women to keep working after giving birth. This would have the doubled effect in Japan of raising female employment.

And yeah - most women in their early 20's don't want kids, this doesn't mean they can't make up for that later on.

Kinda true. I go back to nipland later today but last time I was there one of the clubs let girls in for 1000 yen with nomihoudai and men for 3500 yen.
Free for college girls.

Dozens of countries have these subsidies and have lower birth rates than the US

The US only has 12 weeks UNPAID maternity leave

These subsidies ALWAYS take from the productive and at best give them to everybody, so there is always a net flow of resources from the productive. Subsidies are almost always counter productive

is divorce a thing in Japan? imo it's the biggest societal ill here in Russia. divorce rate finally started to go down in the last two years, we'll see if it actually plays out.

Really? Then how did Japanese society exist for TENS OF THOUSANDS OF Years before without these subsidies? Is it just the magical Tanuki spirit rubbing his balls that magically made the fertility rate plummet the second women started working and getting careers?
Think about historical cause and effect for a second and stop regurgitating the slop that propaganda media has fed you.
You know who gave women subsidized daycare and paid family leave "so they could keep working"? The EU did. And most of them have an even worse fertility rate than you do now. Why? Because in practice this didn't do anything when men and women are reluctant to pair off due to social issues in the first place, and because most of the women this would have helped don't start looking for a man to marry until they're 40 years old.

It depends on the club, most I've been to have been equal in price but some make discounts for women. It does make sense, you'd rather have more women in there than men if possible
The U.S. is also a gigantic country with a huge rural population helping to make up for the city fertility rates, not to mention all the Mormons, Mexicans, Blacks, etc.

Most of EU also has extremely high taxes. Still the white-only birth rate in some of those countries are actually quite decent, around 1.8 or so in many of them.

All countries start losing birth rate after industrialization, so your point about "Japanese society for 1000 years" doesn't make any sense. When childbirth starts becoming a net economic negative, of course it will happen less, we have to lessen that blow as much as possible.

Read this book. Subsidies don't work. The high quality people who want to breed won't be induced by a few shekels being thrown their way.

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>japanese incel brainwashed by western far-right propaganda
top kek

Why don't you send me a tl;dr? Most of your argument seems to be shit about real estate from what I can tell?

What are dating apps like in Japan

Where in the EU do you see a white birth rate even vaguely close to 1.8?
France has a 1.8 mainly because of Muslim blacks. I don't even know of any other EU countries above France.
As for taxes, how do you expect to have these subsidies without taxes? Does your Tanuki also jizz free money?
And as for the industrial revolution, it was urbanization that lowered birth rates there, sure but that effect is far less pronounced than the drop when women enter the workforce. In countries where these statistics are available, like the US, the drop in birthrate mainly occurs when women enter the labor market, and in recent years due to societal unrest with movements like #metoo brewing.

The author reviewed attempts by governments to increase birth rates and concluded they don't work. Just think about it logically. That money has to come from somewhere. It's coming from the productive people you want to breed. At best you're taking their money and giving it back to them, minus the cost to administer the program. At worst it's making it harder for them to breed and subsidizing leaches. And you don't have to worry about just brown people, you have to worry about low IQ natives too.

If some woman has 130 IQ and a 6 figure job as a hospital administrator, subsidized daycare and 6 months paid mat leave mean shit to her.

You are obviously also a virgin so you are a match made in retardland

You are a classic LBH

>the drop when women enter the workforce
That drop occurred in traditional families too, because now they have to compete with dual earning couples on one salary

nice triple doubles

Quite a bit different from the US. Most people here aren't fat so you never see those camera angle'd pictures of girls. A lot of Japanese girls, if they're not confident in their looks, will just post a back shot of their hair or a photo with a ton of filters on it, so the Japanese-market specific apps usually have rules against that.

In general there are a ton of Japanese girls who are a bit more reserved and don't like going to clubs and bars to meet guys, so many of these guys rely on dating apps to meet people.
U.K., France, Sweden. Again, I'm referring to white-only birth rates. Maybe they're not exactly 1.8 but I know they're quite high for developed countries.
You make the subsidies for this by not spending on dumb bullshit like welfare and socialist programs, this would have the doubled effect of lowering taxes generally.

The point that birth rates majorly lowered was when it changed from shitting out as many kids as you can to work on a farm, to working in a factory, until it had no benefit at all and below. I'm not saying culture doesn't play a part, it certainly does and that has to change but to say that economic factors aren't immense here is a lie.

Oh and to add to this try googling "feminism and overpopulation". There are a bunch of scholarly publications from the 1990's that show how women entering the workforce reduces birthrate. There are also a bunch of articles there about how feminism and female empowerment is good for the environment because women dont have as many kids if they have alternative opportunities for financial stability and freedom.
Conveniently, now that fertility crises have become an issue, nobody talks about this any more.

Reads like its written by a bitter american beta male. I have my suspicions.

Sounds like bullshit to me.

Japanese wives who are in loveless marriages with husbands who treat them like dirt do cheat unashamedly. Just having a casual, non-sexual conversation with these women, it's funny how quickly they throw their husband under the bus. But more often than not, the status quo that I see, is that Japanese women are afraid of foreign cock and the societal implications of sleeping with a foreigner. They value their education and career above "love" and above being a slut. They are picky when it comes to dating, and adverse to risk taking.

About the money. It is true that in a marriage, the woman controls the bank account and allots money to her husband. Is it $10-15 on a daily basis while she parties it up with friends? That sounds like an exaggeration. But I'm not married, and if I do, I'm not letting her control my bank account.

When I say this, I'm not saying sluts are nonexistent in Japan. There are single mothers in Japan, and there are women who hunt foreigners in the biggest tourist traps. Women will be women, regardless of their cultural upbringing. But generally speaking, this is what I see. But hey, what do I know, I just live in Japan.

We don't even know the numbers for France because the government banned taking racial data, but we do know about 1/4 of newborns are being tested for sickle cell anemia

That's not the point. Rich people in Japan actually have quite a bit higher fertility rates than normal people do. The fact of the matter is that a ton of people would be put in quite economically precarious positions if they had kids and simply don't choose to.

The meme that "poor people always have more kids" only applies to poor societies and cultures.
This would only work if we completely went back to a society when women never worked and it was expected that they didn't. The fact is that we have the system the way it is now and we have to adjust for it. You obviously can't just force all women to not work and then expect people to still pay rent at the end of the day.

>the woman controls the bank account and allots money to her husband.
Women do this in Japan because the salary man husband is out of the house 12-14 hours a day

The bettaru Taro vs. the chad Ryoga

This user is right
Japanese women like anime, get over it. I’m not going to try to convince you with personal anecdotes but it’s just the reality.

No they aren't though. Swedens birthrate was 1.5 before they started using mass immigration to prop up their numbers.
In the UK, 28% of children are born to immigrant mothers and the birthrate of native women is consistently dropping (unfortunately they don't gather ethnicity statistics so we can't see what the white birthrate is). Source here: ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/parentscountryofbirthenglandandwales/2016

>The fact of the matter is that a ton of people would be put in quite economically precarious positions if they had kids and simply don't choose to.
If they can't find a place for themselves in today's labormarket, why do you think their kids will? The best thing you can do for these people is protect them from wage suppression from endless immigration and predation from Boomers. For those who can figure it out and produce kids - good. BTW alot of these people COULD have kids if they budgeted carefully, these choose not to

and about "ladies night." It is true Japanese women have a lot of privileges. They have their own train cars, ladies night, and just recently I saw an advertisement for a bar that was exclusive to only women, no men allowed. But I go to an izakaya that has "men's night." If you buy a pasta dish on this day, before 10pm, every single drink after is half price, and it's an expensive izakaya. Does "men's night" exist in any restaurant or bar in America? I doubt it.

yeah
but no

>we have to adjust for it
So you're saying we have to collapse and die out. That's what you really mean seeing as there hasn't ever been a single country on earth that managed to "adjust" even though all of Europe, North America and East Asia are trying to do so.
Keep looking for an easy and comfortable solution, I'm just telling you that such doesn't exist. There's no meeting this halfway.

>pic related
wtf I'm living in Japan now?

Was that the real life rocky fight where they just traded blows to the face till one of them fell? I think it was.

>If they can't find a place for themselves in today's labormarket, why do you think their kids will?
What are you even talking about? This is not some survival of the fittest shit here, we need raw birth rate increases from the native ethnicity.
>BTW alot of these people COULD have kids if they budgeted carefully, these choose not to
Obviously a lot of people are stupid and have different priorities. Why not make it as easy for them to have children as possible? It beats spending money on Socialist programs and welfare which make up a ton of the budget in European countries
I'm not saying we have to die out of course. I don't think having to regulate women to only giving child birth is the literal only option however.

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
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To train them is my cause
I will travel across the land
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Teach Asian girls to understand
The power that's inside
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It's you and me
I know it's my destiny
Asian girls! Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
Asian girls! Gotta catch 'em all
A heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me, and I'll teach you
Asian girks!
Gotta catch 'em all, gotta catch 'em all
Yeah
Every challenge along the way
With courage I will face
I will battle every day
To claim my rightful place
Come with me, the time is right
There's no better team
Arm in arm, we'll win the fight
It's always been our dream
Asian girls! Gotta catch 'em all
It's you and me
I know it's my destiny
Asian girls! Oh, you're my best friend
In a world we must defend
Asian girls! Gotta catch 'em all
A heart so true
Our courage will pull us through
You teach me, and I'll teach you
Asian girls!
Gotta catch 'em all, gotta catch 'em all

It's hard to be specific here due to the lack of data - it is true that the immigrants there are boosting the total birth rate, but there is evidence that it's not totally attributable to sheer immigration. France has a higher birth rate than the U.S. for example despite the U.S. being well more diverse.

>Germany stronk birthrate esp. including all those sandniggers
>objectively wrong to compare birthrates of the indigenous population

>t. polish death camp

It's the best option as far as we know and none of us have the time or resources to experiment before the collapse hits. Especially not Japan since you have such a massive percentage of elderly people that your population will drop drastically soon.
Everything else is gynocentric indoctrination. Everything in the OP comes from women being given to much power and not being able to handle the associated responsibilities. Research on happiness and fulfillment in the US straight up shows that women were happier as housewives but everyone is so obsessed with GDP that nobody will acknowledge plain reality.

I'm getting Mice Utopia vibes from this, especially the last few sentences.
On the other hand, if they just fuck the chads and occasionally pop out some babies on the way that's better for the gene pool than fucking the Betas. I bet the Beta women also don't get to fuck either the chads nor the betas and so the gene pool stays clean and beautiful. The only problem Japan will face due to this is going to be financial support of the elders in the future.

There is no bigger sign of being an incel than using Jow Forums terms like chad

Fertility rates change literally all the time, there's no reason to think they'll stay the same way forever. The UN's population projections are based essentially on the notion that all countries eventually trend towards around a 1.7-1.8 fertility rate, which is almost replacement rate. Throw automation on there and some immigration from tolerable countries (i.e. Chinese and Vietnamese immigrants are decent in my book).
I'm not saying women are inherently meant to be focused on their career - I think that's wrong and most women it's not what fulfills their life.

Culture also plays a big part, a lot of Mormons/Orthodox Jews have huge birth rates and it's not like their women don't work. I just don't think we have to go to that extreme necessarily.

The "beautiful ones" stike again.

What was that mouse experiment called again? Universe something?

Muslim countries are just behind the curve, still on it. Saudis just let women drive. It's over.

>I thought at least Asia was still somewhat normal
That's normal m8
That's what happens when you remove the social shame for riding the cock carousel
What do you see "not normal" there?
Humans are hedonistic by nature