Wait, why are Democrats losing it over Trump’s move to declassify the FISA application for Carter Page? From their logic, isn’t this supposed to show that Page, a member of Trump’s campaign, is a Russian agent?
How do they justify their cognitive dissonance?
>oh noooo the president is overruling those who are subordinate to him oyyyyy veyyyyy
I would think they would be thrilled to have their evidence for collusion displayed for all to see.
It can only hurt Trump if they have been telling the truth up to this point.
Quality post. Good point.
Their argument against that is he's not releasing everything and only releasing things to make him look good. That's their argument.
Right? It’s almost like they know that his campaign was illegally spied on, but I genuinely can’t tell what they think at this point.
It's almost like they know what will be declassified
Government transparency is a fascist tactic used by nazis. That's where we are now.
Here's how you counter this. ACCUSE ANYONE WHO DOESNT WANT DECLASSIFICATION OF STIFLING FULL TRANSPARENCY.
>The LITERAL authority bu-bu-bu-but he's LITERALLY Hitler. Quite LITERALLY this is PROBLEMATIC
i thought everything was declassified
Isn’t this argument invalid though because the rest of the FISA has already been released? Aren’t they just declassifying the rest of it? So he’s literally not being selective if the whole thing is released.
How dare the President over rule his subordinates. Why would anyone dare to distrust the FBI and DOJ or the secretive FISA courts designed to spy on American citizens!?
>kvetching intensifies
>The President should listen to anyone who works for him, even the guy who checks the White House roach traps!
>what? Obama go through Congress to get things done? Listen, they're obstructionists! Here's why executive orders are a good thing
wow dude. post brain.
It is.
It is important that you all realize this wasn't an extreme thing for these people to do. This is just routine policy at this point. That's why they felt so comfortable doing this to the god damn President. They do this very same bullshit to us, everyday. All over the fucking country.
I used to work with a libtard who literally thought Trump was jeopardizing national security by posting on Twatter. Liberals are fucking stupid. He got fired for stealing BTW.
That is what they know deep down, but cognitive dissonance prevents them from taking actions based on this knowledge. Obviously Trump wouldn't do this if the information were not valuable to him.
Picture related. They don't want their little illegal coup attempt to be exposed.
I hope some of the stuff he's not declassifying is even worse, so when they claim he's only being self-serving, he can declassify that and play this for multiple news cycles.
the permanent state wants to do their own thing without being exposed.
MUELLER not melting down! Cool cat under pressure. Pic related.
so when do we prosecute the people responsible for illegal unmasking?
Because Obama's fucked.
>How do they justify their cognitive dissonance?
That’s exactly the problem they don’t have to because they control the media
>inb4 nothing comes out of it like usual and (((they)))) keep playing this distracting game for the next 5 years
Where the fuck is the rest of it? WTF is it with these shills and their one post?
>why wouldn't Democrats want a court with national security protections to release evidence in an investigation of russian spying, before the investigation is even over?
must be podesta's fault somehow
Underrated
I think out of the thousands of FISA applications over the years only two have been denied. It's an illegal government function and if it's exposed as corrupt and serving the interests of the elite then good
If Jews hate something Trump does I love it. It's pretty much all that's fueling me now
what next? you gonna make an H2O2 joke?
I can't wait to see what all of this does. Ohr said the FBI was leaking info to reporters so they could take that to a FISA judge to issue a warrant. If that's true, the FBI is guilty of manufacturing evidence. If it's found they've been doing such things under political orders, heads should roll. Then again they will just resign to a fat pension and keep blaming their betters.
The document just shows the “evidence” they used to spy on Carter Page which they’ve since stopped. It has nothing to do with the ongoing investigation. Please explain how it jeopardizes national security.
because the DNC, Obama, Clinton, the intelligence agencies, a bunch of wealthy leaders of industry, the media, all conspired to pass of a knowingly fraudulent document as justification to grant an illegal wiretap of a presidential candidate. they have truly plunged our democracy into darkness, and they fear more than anything the light.
It will only help their case though.
Carter Page is an evil traitor. These docs can prove it to the American people once and for all and take down Trump before the midterms.
This will be a big win for Democrats...if they have been truthful up to this point and did the shit by the book.
I have no reason, other than Faux News to believe they are lying.
So let's see the fucking truth and get drumpf out of office before he does more damage.
I hope trump trolls obama and tweets the link to the declassification then hashtags #mosttransparentadministration
was spying on carter page not part of the FBI probe/mueller investigation? has a separate investigation that spied on page been closed? what was the report from that investigation, why did it close?
If an investigation into russian finance by the FBI was closed, i'd think that would be big news
>we want all the information from the russia investigation!
>trump - ok here you go lel
>WAIT NO WE DON'T WANT THIS IF YOU WANT TO RELEASE IT REEEEEEEEE
it's simple. They know that Trump releasing it means there's nothing that could possibly harm him in it. they're shitting their pants.
the same people who funded child slaving ISIS terrorists in Libya and Syria and flooded Europe with hostile islamic terrorist refugees (fighting age males who have sharply increased crime, aren't working, costing their tax payers billions), those same people tried to illegal coup the lawfully elected president using a piss dossier, and they've been desperate, wide eyed and stuttering, as they've spent the past 2 years trying anything and everything to cover up their treason
Thats the thing. The fbi and doj is scrambling to build a case in reverse so they can justify the spying. This is why the nexus of the case has changed between papadopoulus and page.
Now that Russian collusion declared a larp. Session is no un-recused with backing of SCOTUS.
Release the Dark Elf.
Page was already spied on and the information within his warrant was supposed to be evidence that he is a Russian agent. Since he hasn’t been charged with anything, the info is obviously false. In what scenario would information within this document impact the progressing investigation? I’m genuinely curious as to how you ppl see it
Careful what you wish for.
Transparency is somehow obstruction
No.
The remaining 20 pages of the FISA document will initiate the resignation/recusal/removal of Rod Rosenstein. Declas will force awareness that all signers will be under investigation, it will factually demonstrate without argument the US Government under Hussein, knowingly presented false evidence to FISC to obtain 'legal' US intelligence umbrella surveillance of Trump for the sole purpose of influencing the 2016 election - not Russia, but Hussein/HRC. Further it will demonstrate back-channel surveillance and spy insertion (multiple) also involving UK/AUS, initiated by Directors Brennan and Clapper with regular updates (including live streaming) provided to the Hussein WH.
Panic
>qnigger finally talking about what we've already been saying for a week
Sad!
The press knew since day one about the fraud of FISA and kept secret exculpatory evidence from reporting it to the public and ergo why they're in full panic.
Pic related is confirmation how the MSM knew and is culpable in the scheme.
>logic
Stop embarrassing yourself. They play to win, not to prove some faggoty point.
What they're thinking:
> our plans to burn down the USA and build a socialist state in its place with Russia and China's help are going to be exposed! DO SOMETHING I DON'T WANT TO BE HANGED FOR TREASON
Kike right?
Because now they'll have to leak evidence acquired from the investigation in order to retroactively justify it in the minds of the public - that carries some risks. Average conservative voters will be biased towards thinking that an investigation should not have been started based on whatever preliminary evidence started the process, despite what the FISA court concluded.
Thank god
First we have to contact Netflix, that's where they all work now.
But the FISA court was misled with phony evidence so the investigation shouldn’t have been started
TDS
remember when They cried about that fisa memo that wasnt even national security but then wanted to release a thick as book with tons of national security shit in it? So fuck the left and their pity party. Their day as "useful" idiots is at an end.
I know it's bait...but...It actually is Podesta's fault. When Seth Rich leaked all Podesta's and the DNC's emails to Wikileaks, instead of just saying a staffer did it, they claimed that Russia had done it. Instead of giving the DNC server to the FBI, they hired a company that said *surprise* we think a foreign country did it.
Then it became, Russia is meddling in our elections, because they hacked us and Wikileaks released it. Then, that morphed into, Donald Trump is working with the Russians to hack the elections.
Every paper in the country knows the Russia investigation is a farce. It's theater to give the Dems something going into the midterms.
>pic
About time for that other shoe to drop
Oh, lots of reasons why.
>it will show that democrats were actually colluding with foreign powers to cheat the election
>it will show that orders to go after Trump were given by Oniggress
>it will show that all of the evidence has been fabricated
>that Carter Page was an FBI asset turned "foreign spy"
>This means the investigation(s) of Trump and his people that originate with the Carter Page FISA warrant are DOA
>The redacted texts will name reporters and news outlets that were used to plant false stories and those stories were later used as "evidence" to obtain warrants and investigate
>This means that over the past three years there was a conspiracy between the Oniggress
administration, their moles in all federal agencies, the Clintons, the media, etc., all conspired to overthrow the legitimately elected government of the United States
>This means that Sessions will be able to un-recuse himself because it was all a hoax to begin with
>This means the fun begins
Anyone else notice how all the media dropped the Kavanaugh bullshit and are chimping out about this?
>why are Democrats losing it over Trump’s move
even if trump would donate 1 billion to an organization that helps homeless Syrian children they would spin it around to shit on him. These people are sitting on their safe spaces and all they do is showing others how morally superior they are and if you slightly oppose their "superiority" they will call you a fascist and want you banned.
>Insecure NPCs that are living from online likes
>WTF I hate government transparency now.
>an unindicted coconspirator in a felony
Well why the fuck isn't he indicted then? Jesus Christ these people need help. The other day I had to listen to my brother rant for a solid hour through our entire lunch break about how VLADIMIR PUTIN has been CULTIVATING TRUMP FOR DECADES FROM BEHIND THE SCENES.
The shooting of the black guy by that woman cop and then finding drugs in his apartment is like how the mueller probe started on false pretenses.
Libs will say one of those shouldn’t be the focus, and the other should result in a dozen other meaningless crimes unrelated to the initial reason for the probe.
>but I genuinely can’t tell what they think at this point.
they don't think, they follow the orders of an AI
>I hope some of the stuff he's not declassifying is even worse,
they got plenty of these people plotting his murder
so many bots.
We don't know what the evidence was yet, if you're referring to the Steele Dossier, you should probably revisit it to find out how many of the claims turned out to be true. In any case, the Dems aren't trying to win in actual court, but in the court of public opinion.
TDS is real. Hopefully we find a cure soon
Why don't they want to see the evidence?
>This will be very damaging to Trump
Why aren't they welcoming this?
You sound like you know what's up. Did. They threaten trumps life/family?
>Donald Trump is working with the Russians to hack the elections.
but Trump has been chummy with certain Russians since forever
thing is, nothing happens by accident, they could have shut Trump down at any turn and did not, because your reaction to the fracas is what is of value being harvested
pre-election I would only see pro-trump tweets in his comments, this is literally all i see whenever I look at the responses from the presidents tweets now.
CNN will be reporting that it's actually a good thing that FBI sets people up with manufactured evidence. Screen cap this
It's almost like the President has full declassification authority. He could declassify Area 51 if he wanted; but he wouldn't. Declassifying these FISA warrens only hurts national security if you're concerned about how half the country is going to view the contents of that warrant. And Trump wants half the country upset over this for sure.
>he's not releasing everything
what the fuck else is there to release? the secret stuff mueller has that nobody knows about except mueller?
>cure
Weird way to spell rope.
Q predicated this
I can see why he's only releasing the warrant info though.
If the probe was shit from the start, and has nothing two years in, that looks awful.
The only way to recover from this PR-wise would be to have some successes, but they've got nothing on Trump. He knows this, Paige confirmed it, and so when the pressure comes to release results, the probe will just crack.
Its been a flimsy, partisan, BS circus from the beginning. Good riddance.
(((David Kris)))
Thing is, he can release anything and rural and suburban retards will forever hold up the documents as proof of government corruption even though they don't actually understand what they're reading. Does anyone even remember what we learned from Hillary's emails?
Give me two examples of a major claim in the dossier proven to be true
>national security protections
>Libshit worried about things like that
Try again Shlomo
you think if trump could prove any media people knew the story was fake he could sue for libel?
Kavanaugh confirmation delayed
Docs declassified
False flags inbound
>Implying leftshits want facts and truth, ever
They'd rather live in a world where everyone is gay, has AIDS, feels great all the time, no one ever dies except for the people they flippantly no longer like. A place where everyone is a transabled transgender mutilated nigger with an obnoxiously large afro. The same fantasy world where Trump flies to Moscow to purchase prostitutes to video tape him urinating on Obama replica Real Dolls™ that he flies back with him to Jew York so he can throw them from Trump tower while shouting "you're fired!" and IT WAS HER TURN
Weiner's laptop