Would polygamy or concubines save western civilization? Supposedly it's "not Christian" and that's why we don't do it...

Would polygamy or concubines save western civilization? Supposedly it's "not Christian" and that's why we don't do it. When did God change his mind? He was perfectly ok with it in the old testament. It almost seemed like women were a blessing he bestowed on righteous kings.

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Marriage was always meant to be between one man and one woman.

actually it says if you are gonna be considered for a leadership position in the church you should be the husband of one wife

1 Timothy 3:1-13
>This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
>A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
>Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;
>One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;
>(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
>Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
>Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
>Likewise must the deacons be grave, not doubletongued, not given to much wine, not greedy of filthy lucre;
>Holding the mystery of the faith in a pure conscience.
>And let these also first be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless.
>Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.
>Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
>For they that have used the office of a deacon well purchase to themselves a good degree, and great boldness in the faith which is in Christ Jesus.

When confronted with a question that raises legitimate concerns about the consistency of your beliefs, you just make opinionated statements?

Ok but what about everyone else?

This can't be true because David had at least 7 wives, and David's great sin was purposefully getting one of his soldier killed so that he could marry his wife. God was not angry at him at all for having multiple wives.

The ten commandments also do not prohibit multiple wives:
>Thou shall not commit adultery
>Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife
Concubines might not be considered adultery either given how many men with God's favor had them in the OT.

Polygamy caused no end of trouble for David and his successor, Solomon. Their failures can be taken as a lesson.

>opinionated
Was it Adam and Eve and Eva and Evelyn?

>Thou shall not commit adultery
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People are not perfect. Doesn't mean God condones it. Monogamy is God's original plan for man and woman.

If you think that Adam and Eve actually existed, we are done here. Anyway, why is your Christian God any better than the Mormon Christian God?

yes it would, but ugly mugs like that need not breed.

Oh, you're retarded. Sorry about that.

Also, look at it this way. God's original diet for man was veggies, fruits, and seeds. Later on he allowed the consumption of some meats, but that's not what he intends for humans.

lol that answer was even emptier than the usual "mine is the right god because he said so"

Looks like Mike Enoch

Yet you are ignorant of the Bible. God tells David that He gave David Wives (plural) to bless him, and if that had not been enough for David, God said He would have given him more. It wasn't multiple wives that caused problems, it was their religions and customs influencing David and Solomon. That can happen with one wife just as with many. Stop misrepresenting the Bible.

So you are admitting that polygamy is not forbidden as a sin then

Yeah, and he took it all away because David was being a greedy little shit.

>Now therefore the sword shall never depart from thine house; because thou hast despised me, and hast taken the wife of Uriah the Hittite to be thy wife.
All the wives yet he killed to take another.

It is not God's original plan. If God himself told you to take multiple wives, that's one thing. But he didn't, so you shouldn't. Disobeying God is a sin.

So you're saying it is a sin to take multiple wives? So God was giving multiple wives to David as a blessing was God giving David sin? You're just wrong. Stop assuming that things that are not ideal are automatically sin. By that logic eating meat is a sin since its not "Gods original plan".

>all the wives yet he killed to take another
Irrelevant. You've yet to shown how or where in the bible that the fact David or Solomon had multiple wives was in and of itself a sin. Oh wait, that's because it isn't.

>Oh wait, that's because it isn't.
Nor did I say it was. God allowed them to do it for one reason or another. God's original plan for man, however, is monogamy. Do I need to pull out all the verses supporting monogamy? Remember: it's Bride of Christ, not Brides of Christ.

1 Corinthians 11:3 King James Version (KJV)
>But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

I think you're a kike that doesn't want more white man to be born.

I'm completley okay with multiple wives and making many children.

>Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's WIFE, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Singular.

1 Corinthians 7:2-5 King James Version (KJV)
>Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
>Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
>The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
>Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Deuteronomy 17:17 King James Version (KJV)
>Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

Mark 10:7-9 King James Version (KJV)
>For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
>And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
>What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

God's original plan for marriage is one husband one wife. Too many verses on this.

I disagree. You sound like a woman. Leave the matter of interpreting the scripture to man and be silent.

He wasn't OK with it. It was accounted for under the law that those already in arrangements could stay "right" by remaining in those arrangements. Namely, the women, who would otherwise be thrown to the streets, as no man would accept them.

That doesn't mean it is "OK" or that he endorses, but that those who were lawless could live by their pre-existing obligations.

What are you, a catholic?

Genesis 2:22-24 King James Version (KJV)
>And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
>And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
>Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

AND SHALL CLEAVE UNTO HIS WIFE
AND THEY SHALL BE ONE FLESH

ONE

FLESH

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I love how men think this will work out for you... Same with the free sex movement, then you forgot that you are not gonna be included in the top 20% that take all women and just die as incels. LMAO

You can make a steak with many smaller pieces of mean glued together all the same. You can cleave with many wifes - gluing and regluing your bodies at the whim.

You're simply implying.

I can handle multiple wives. I'm not a s-o-y-boy liberal little shit.

Men should strive to be the kind of man that manages his wife and house so that he COULD add another wife if he judges it to be a good idea. Even if he doesn't decide to, he needs to be that kind of leader where his wife won't rebel if he decides on something hard

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You can make one Church with like a bajillion people.
God doesn't condemn it. He regulates it. Kings can't go crazy with it. You aren't allowed to screw with inheritance over it. Elders and Deacons can't engage in it. The rank and file christian is totally free to do it. With all the serial-monogamy going around (that Jesus calls literal adultery) you'd think that polygamy wouldn't be such a hard stretch.

>The rank and file christian is totally free to do it
The first man ever created had only one wife.

All of you are doing what jews do: try to find loopholes.

>implying it neccesarry to find loopholes on this matter
It's not a sin to have multiple wives. It's not forbidden or discurages either.

>or discurages
Yeah except, you know, all the verses saying ONLY ONE HUSBAND ONLY ONE WIFE.

The first man created ran around naked and was a vegetarian while his wife talked to snakes. Things happen. We can't live like Adam. The woman was put made to be ruled over by the man after the garden. Trying to go back before things changed is trying to believe in gender equality. That's cucked.

>muh jews

God leaves lots of loopholes in His law which Jesus then exploited because the loopholes are intentional and the product of perfect design.

>Ox

SINGULAR

it's explaining relations and behavious between man and woman. you're really a woman, for not being able to understand such simple concepts. I guess jealousy and greed is the driving intention to forcefully find something against polygamy.

Polygamy is greed.

Unironically yes.
It would get the birth rates up.

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>We can't live like Adam
1 John 5:3 King James Version (KJV)
>For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

>Trying to go back before things changed is trying to believe in gender equality.
What the fuck

>Jesus then exploited
what

Polygamy is a woman's fantasy. They don't care to share Chad and leave the rest of the men at the curb.

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Not really. Having multiple wives is a lot more work, stress and it's also a life long bound. Compared to singular marriage it can be multiple times better or multiple times worse. It really needs the right man for the job. It's just a normal thing.

>Muh birthrates
Guarantee every man a bride that can't take his children away from him on a whim and THEN you'll see birthrates skyrocket.

Shit, forgot to post this.

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just make more girls then boy, problem solved. oh, the natural birthrates of girls are already higher then boys? It's almost like...

'Sides, society is already polygamy-lite. The top men get all the women they want.

It's like no one learned from the horseshit that is "sexual liberation".

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it's exactly the opposite of the bible. it's not marriage but fornication. they should have asked: "Would you be willing to share the rest of your life with this person" and a gurantee you the disgraced woman (that actually should just be silent) would have had a different answer.

So you want "Chad" to get all the women and all the rest of the men to get nothing? 'Cause it's the same shit.

again, there are naturally more women then men. monogamy doesn't actually gurantee a partner or even a marriage. unlike in this decatent society where one man could taint hundreds of women, having a handful women properly married really doesn't suddendly throw the world out of balance.

>When did God change his mind? He was perfectly ok with it in the old testament.

No, that's just an excuse that fat fucks in power have used throughout history to justify forcibly hoarding all the women for themselves.

You're alright, user.

>hoarding all the women

I got me a good girl. Did it with out being a fat fuck or a chad. Did it by being a well meaning scrub who worked hard. If another cutie would rather be with me than a lesser man, who's to say she can't?
Ideally, her father, but that would mean a high degree of patriarchy in society. And the quickest way to a rock solid patriarchy is when women know their place... and polygamy is a great way to do that.