MGTOW is on a basic level performing a cost benefit analysis on relationships with women in the workplace, cohabitation ,marriage while regarding the state of modern society and it's gynocentric policies in that regard.
So why is it that Tradcons care so much about what other men do with their lives if they legitimately arent hurting anyone by their choice to avoid LTR?
Why is so much vitriol and ad hominem thrown about?
Despite all the biased laws like VAWA, MGTOW arent trying to push legislation, or even change laws, but to live freely without the unneeded stress of having their lives and livelyhood put at risk by a woman's emotions.
Even now a supreme court nominee is being accused of "almost rape" from 30 years ago by a woman with no recollection of when and where this happened, but this baseless accusation is delaying the process of swearing in a Supreme court justice. I can think of no finer example of why many men view women as more of a risk than anything.
So whats the real game here? Time and again the antmgtow crow show they dont really care about the men who opt for this philosophy, so why is there such a concerted effort to stop them, or at least demonize them?
Because men have to remain slaves. If men become self aware again and powerful the subversion will fail as women will naturally flock to the powerful man who is self assured and completely ignores them.
Logan Fisher
People call me MGTOW when I point out the risks of losing your virginity or having sex at all as a man. >unwanted pregnancy >STD >Allah forbid, a rape allegation They’ll also tell me to just put a condom on like that’s foolproof.
Charles Davis
they mostly need to to buy the used car. Much of the economy is predicated on the idea of men pursuing omen, if even 15% stopped pursuit all together the effect would be felt everywhere.
MGTOW is based and redpilled. You can’t succeed at life if you ejaculate often. You will never reach your potential. After you’ve built your empire, go ahead and fuck. But if you have shit to do, no sex, women, porn, masturbation, etc, period.
It's fine to be a single guy pursuing your career or other goals and not chasing women. What's cringy about it is the retarded MGTOW label. You're not doing anything special or even something remotely difficult, you don't have to label yourself and consider yourself part of some persecuted group.
Daniel Miller
>Only retards get a divorce >over 50% of those that get married get divorced >70% of lose that initiate divorce are women >thinks you can just say no to a divorce >see look this effeminate cuck pastor says so
>>over 50% of those that get married get divorced probably more than 50% of people are retarded NPCs
Owen Johnson
>You're not doing anything special or even something remotely difficult
so why so much backlash and attempt to demonize it
>group
unlike PUA and MRA its not a group mgtow is a philosophy, anyone but total morons abstain from mentioning mgtow anywhere but the internet.
Michael Rodriguez
>more than 50% of people are retarded NPCs >women are over 50% of the population
hmm
Colton Scott
>so why so much backlash and attempt to demonize it because they spread Jewish lies and blame other people for their failures
Daniel Jenkins
Still does not change the fct only idiots are getting divored
Asher Jackson
not even slightly, a random internet pastor with opinion is not even close t a valid opinion on peoples personal lives any more than the pope.
Benjamin Brown
>marrying at all
Bentley Russell
>a random internet pastor with opinion is not even close t a valid opinion he cites the bible > any more than the pope. youtube.com/watch?v=yxlKbL-PXqM
yes, goy you shouldn't reproduce new wagecucks and debt slaves for us to tax, and indoctrinate while you pay your mortgage, and risk your livelyhood paying money to your ex wife's divorce lawyer and child support.
you're dumb as fuck if you dont know about the The Peoples Temple of the Disciples of Christ drinking the kool aid
Christian Campbell
What does that have to do with the Bible?
Angel Stewart
mgtow is the great purge of autists and other social retards from the western gene pool and i embrace it
Bentley Hill
So you seriously think sitting here spamming some baptist pastor is gonna even slightly effect ones observations about the state of society?
If jus letting this guy do your thinking works for you, fine. But dont expect others to think anything he has to say is relevant.
Jace Lopez
>observations about the state of society? How is he wrong about the state of society?
Robert Ward
>what does Disciples of Christ have to do with the Bible
He was a strict adherent to the KJV jot and tittle and the fact I'm having to explain this to you shows youre not too bright or prone to thinking for yourself to do some research on your own.
Brody Miller
you would wouldn't you Jerry. Why don''t you purge your own country of autists and social retards
Elijah Reed
>He was a strict adherent to the KJV No he wasnt He was an atheist
Joseph Sanders
Okay since youre all questions and zero answers try reading the comments on your own spammed videos.
Jackson Perez
>zero answers I already told you If you get a divorce it is your own fault
Evan Nguyen
MGTOW threatens the identity of those who define themselves by their thirst for pussy like PUAs and married men.
Logan Brooks
>he was Atheist >was ordained as a Disciples of Christ pastor
Yea and Stalin wasn't a real communist
Brody Foster
The fact that chad treats her like bipedal trash and knocks her up and dumps her to the curb along with the garbage bag and she is eager for more of that shit if only chad would unblock her number and wouldn't push her prego ass into traffic. BUT when she's dating a beta it's she's got something stuck up her ass even though the beta is a perfect gentleman and treats her right. She acts like her cunt is made of solid gold around betas like she's fucking royalty next to peasant serf. So she'd rather be a rag punching bag with chad rather than treated nice by a beta so let them hit that train in the face again and again until they end up with 10 cats and a far rope for their mad ass.
Jacob Rodriguez
elaborate. sounds interesting.
Ryan Gonzalez
mgtow own way bought into all of the PUA nonsense and then got burned by the shit tier women it attracts
Juan Cruz
>We would like to look for critical reviews, at one insider’s view of the Communist Party USA. In order for fascism to be avoided, there has to be a strong communist party, a strong socialist movement, and free, independent strong trade union [unions], none of which exist in USA, and that is why to avoid your utter destruction, materially most of you, and murder of the rest, I brought you here to regroup, recoup, rehabilitate and gain strength, and militancy, and a proper education in Marxist-Leninism, which you had never picked up, even though I was avowedly, openly Marxist-Leninist and atheist, you have never picked it up, for the most part, in the United States, except for a handful.
If you define masculinity as your ability to chase pussy (I fuck so many chicks bruh!), and you meet a guy who is above that and doesn't validate you (good for you, I'm sure the moist hole was worth the $200 you spent on drinks), then you will be upset. If you then also find out that these guys define their lives by completely different metrics, then your entire ego and sense of self is under threat.
Mason Carter
Mgtow is not for the weak, it takes some courage to remove yourself from the mating game completely
William Gonzalez
Because you try to drag other men/boys into your nonsense rather than keep it to yourself. MGTOW is basically a bunch of middle aged miserable men trying to convince young generations of white men that women are out to get them and that women are evil. It's toxic and the effect is the same as feminism - men and women becoming more divided. White men and women need to become more united
Yes, there is a lot of bullshit in society that is bad for men, but MGTOW does more harm than good.
>mgtow own way bought into all of the PUA nonsense
yes and no for some, some found success in the pua crowd and were disgusted by what they learned of the nature of women.
so is it wrong they turned away from such nonsense?
I mean most men don't look into pua unless they were unsuccessful with women to begin with, but what happens when you are successful and you realize the grass is green because of bullshit?
Whats worse is seeing how men who never looked into pua or anything and seeing them taken to the cleaners by women they assumed were good and virtuous backed by a gynocentric state regardless .
Adrian Campbell
It's a logical choice, cost/benefit analysis, why invest in a depreciating asset with both time and money where I could be spending them in places with better returns
He blames men for being selfish rather than looking at WHY they're acting selfish in the first place.
Nolan Mitchell
mgtows are guys who had gfs too. Hence them going mgtow. You go mgtow from having too much experience with women, not too little. Too little experience and you go PUA.
>cleaners by women they assumed were good I guarantee you if they were actually paying attention they could have found out they were trash before they got married
Isaac Johnson
I don't have an opinion either way on the MGTOW club. Sure they are right but on the other hand I have kids and as much as my YF sucks she is too lazy too work so.... Anyway I have a question: Why would any MGTOW guy support any political party at all? If they are as sick of the status quo as they all appear to be what good would supporting a jew status quo party do them? I never understood that about some of them.
Leo Sullivan
Sure thing incel
Ian Scott
Women lie and people change. Women just get "bored" and need drama.
You will learn the hard way, which is the only way to learn unfortunately
Samuel Jackson
why not just date Asian girls?
John Young
>He blames men for being selfish Who should he blame?
Thomas Martinez
What didnt make sense there?
Luke Thomas
Male feminists and kikes are pro mgtow. Mgtow should only be non white men. Blackpill: you NEED women to propagate whites... for now...
Nathaniel Wilson
How many of these men that were deceived fornicated with their wives before they were married? youtube.com/watch?v=HlQuFamjBWk
Jaxon Reyes
>Because you try to drag other men/boys into your nonsense rather than keep it to yourself.
because tradcons ,feminists and save muh white race types dont
at least mgtow offers you information you can verify and pursuit yourself as an individual rather than advocate collectivist strategies to effect government policy.
sounds like youre bitter that men are independently weighing their options with mgtow in mind rather than just accepting dualism based ideology.
Good question. There are men of previous generations who let this shit happen, there are women who can divorce rape a man to take much of his wealth and his children, and there is also the law which is made to enable that. >for now... Indeed (pic related)
his own teachings and views are the reason the far left exist as a reactionary movement to its flaws, but he's a religious dogmatist so he has to lash out at opposing ideals from his own yet too dumb to see how it fuels the fire he hates so much.
Jacob Jenkins
Just man up you idiot and get a nice church girl, pay her bills, and raise her kid. Or do you want to be a creep all your life?
Isaiah Reyes
What does sex have to do with people changing and unfair laws?
Aaron Smith
>MGTOW is basically a bunch of middle aged miserable men
your retarded generalization is ineffective and easily proven false.
>trying to convince young generations of white men that women are out to get them and that women are evil.
feminist and misandry is already rampant before mgtow even got off the ground
> It's toxic and the effect is the same as feminism
attributing the effect of feminism to mgtow is dumb. with out mgtow this would still be the case
>men and women becoming more divided. White men and women need to become more united
this was a direct result of women voting and entering male spaces, not mgtow
Kayden Peterson
>why is it that Tradcons care so much Because you're not making society better. If you're smart enough and cautious enough to makenthe decision, but youre not reproducing, you're contributing to the genetic persistence of the problem.
> Why is so much vitriol and ad hominem thrown about? A human instinct to malign males who don't fit in.
Bentley Long
If you dont get a divorce how do divorce laws affect you? >to its flaws, What flaws >has to lash out at opposing ideals from his own as opposed to what? should he compromise with these people? It shows you both were degenerates before you got married If you want your marriage to work you should change
Jeremiah Young
>you should change And what happens then? Can I somehow guarantee that she won't change again later in the marriage? Do the laws become better?
Jack Murphy
What's the point of MGTOW besides being bitter at women? No one is asking MGTOW guys to have anything to do with women as it is. Men can do their own thing and work for their own goals whether they support MGTOW or not.
Hunter Wright
Atheist but not interested in sex anymore. 43. Plenty of money. Women are useless and completely uninteresting. A wank is better. Nice house, nice car, nice boat. Go to the pub when I want and sail for weekends. A woman would ruin all that making it about her then get around the judge to take half of it away. They can keep their nigger dicks and guppy children.
Ryan Harris
>so why is there such a concerted effort to stop them, or at least demonize them because the ideology, if successful, spells the end of the species? its the epitome of an unhealthy, unnatural ideology.. literally suicidal on a meta level. nothing could be more stupid, childish, petulant, than acting in ones self-interest because its slightly easier, more convenient, as race/culture/species dies around you
Asher Young
>Can I somehow guarantee No but my point was there is not this epidemic of girls pretending to be good and suckering men into marrying them These men know what they are getting into they just dont care
Ayden Morris
>I guarantee you if they were actually paying attention they could have found out they were trash before they got married
and mgtow shows men without hard earned experience what to look for which tradcons do not do, but youre against this. Yet you bloame mgtow for the fact that now that theyve shown men the red flags, men with different lives and experiences can see that the vast majority of women are trash, but tradcons demand they settle for these women and attempt to change them, while again expect knowledge and experience in doing this to be inherent in these men, and tell them they are at fault for the consequences they may face.
>hurr durr take charge of your woman bro like real man >he gets accused of emotional abuse and separated from his money and children >hurr durr you didnt do it right bro
Asher Martin
MGTOW = MSTOW = Men Sent Their Own Way
we don't want you incel losers, women are better off without your lame DMs flooding our instagram and your creepy eyes following us in public.
I'm glad you're ignoring women
Ayden Moore
>: you NEED women
wew there jew
>Male feminists and kikes are pro mgtow.
wut
>Mgtow should only be non white men
whats wrong kike not enough shekels coming from nonwhites to parasite off of?
David Hall
>be a man >involve your life and responsibilities around woman >its in the bible
Jonathan Russell
Is there a country where you can have kids, but if shit hits the fan, you, the father, is guaranteed to keep custody, and a limited alimony ?
If that country exists, and its not a shithole, I will consider getting married.
Carter Taylor
>without hard earned experience what to look for no they dont they just go around bitching that all women bad >which tradcons do not do We are the ones telling you to not fornicate >but tradcons demand they settle for these women No we dont >>hurr durr take charge of your woman bro like real man Women follow you can either lead her to morality or degeneracy How is any of that wrong?
Carter Ortiz
>I'm glad you're ignoring women Stay mad roastie.
Wyatt Cooper
I heard France is really bad, like you do not allow paternity testing to prove that the child is not yours
Samuel Bennett
S A M B O Æ R A M B O Æ R
Luke Hernandez
Yeh I mean you have nigger dick and can fend for yourselves now. And when your little boy Tyrone comes home with his possy you get to look at all that fine young nigger dick and you can start again biatch when Tyrone is gunned down on your doorstep. Why you shoot ma baby. He din do nuffin.
Samuel Price
>Implying that “thots” give you any attention at all Lmao. Epitome of a slave morality right there. No girl cares for me, so therefore pursuing girls is beneath me.
Caleb Kelly
>you're contributing to the genetic persistence of the problem.
so? dumb people reproduce in faster rates regardless
>Because you're not making society better.
not the intent to effect society. Mgtow wanna improve their own lives before anything. subscribing to corrupt societys expectations doesnt either make a society better or the individual it just extends the issues to the next generation while making you responsible for the consequences.
>A human instinct If thats all that matters lets go back to raping and wonton killing.
Austin Long
>epidemic of girls pretending to be good and suckering men >These men know what they are getting into
wow.
Connor Rodriguez
france is cucked beyong belief my rosbeef friend. You're correct. Well, you can get one... but it doesn't matter in the court system. Also the woman is guaranteed to keep the kids 99% of the time, and youre not guaranteed to see your own kids. not mentioning alimony and all the extra stuff you have to pay. I have 2 divorced friends who have to pay until the kids turn 18.... the oldest is 3...
Blake Reyes
Its true How many of these men actually think they are marrying a virgin?
Kayden Long
>I'm glad you're ignoring women
so whats the problem?
Theyre ignoring you, so why the need to lash out at the fact and demonize those that do what you want as incel losers when they clearly give fuck all about you or your instagram?
William Richardson
Pretending to be a good girl so that men commit to you is literally the woman's evolutionary strategy though. Church women are notorious for being whores who decide to sucker a guy in to settle down. Most christian girls do anal so they can still claim virginity.
John Scott
>Pretending to be a good girl You cant pretend to be a good girl while you are fornicating with someone
>Most christian girls do anal so they can still claim virginity. citation needed
Adam Russell
>performing a cost benefit analysis if you do a serious cost/benefit analysis on life you won't get out of bed ever again and breathing will become a chore.
