Jow Forums made me realize how stupid and retarded both the left and right are...

both of you are retarded.
One axis doesnt work. you need two.
right-left axis for capitalism-communism
up - down axis for totalitarianism- anarchy
one for economy, one for social stuff.

All racism is is applied pattern recognition.

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All racism is pushed by jews to keep the people divided so they don't turn on you. Too bad at this point people are sick of it already and if it wasn't shilled it would be gone. (((you))) need it to survive.

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>centrist
I agree with whoever I'm talking to at the moment.

Fascism is a variation of socialism my friendo, ie not right. In fact mussolini was a member of the socialist party before founding his own.
Your axis is shit

Anyway, I just pray that the race baiting stops. I hate how there is growing discrimination, I mean really extreme things in the mainstem media and social media and in schools, against white men. At the same time, I also condemn discrimination going the other way. Bottom line, I hope all the BS with race, sex, and whatever else the find to divide us will end soon. They want to divide and conquer. Being devided, hating each other, makes us weaker. But just because I don't discriminate doesn't mean others don't against me, and so I just pray that things work out for everyone and that we have peace.

It's not my axis, I know that.

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Your a fucking happa aren't you.

No I'm not, I'm homogenous, but a professor was hating on white men right in front of me recently, but I've never fucking done anything to anyone, and that really bothered me. I don't like how there is this huge rift between the left and right at this point in time and I want it to stop. Normal people are being caught in the crossfire.

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Diversity = division. Multiculturalism = division.

Your trying to maintain a system that is moving towards the same goals.
Reverse the clock back 20 years and you will still advance right back to the present.

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Chaotic Neutral is better.

archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.x/subject/Knowledge Bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/!!9O2tecpDHQ6/

None of the major parties in any country represent the interests of the people anymore.

Unless that is rectified we will have a problem.
>Reverse the clock back 20 years and you will still advance right back to the present.
Yes? We would advance to the present and then past it but you've set us back 20 years by going backwards

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Not necessarily, everyone in Canada identifies as Canadian, but it sure does make it easier to divide. I don't prefer multiculturalism but it's the reality we live in.

Identity politics are D&C by the rich and powerful.

They aren't affected and can diddle kids regardless of what happens with the peasants.

Meaningless platitudes.

I don't know, maybe I just want to be left alone, but people with political agendas (mostly SJWs) are leaving no stone unturned, or untouched, I'm not sure if I'm using that expression right but you get what I mean.

We must unite under the banner of our nations. Anybody who would not hold the values of our civilization (US Constitution) as unremovable should be shamed. The freedom to live as you wish is what brings the poor to our country, but we need to speed assimilation up if we're going to keep taking in third world refugees who breed irresponsibly.

Multiculturalism in the form of small ethnic enclaves is acceptable, as individuals should be free to come and go as they please. But they cannot impose their culture on others (halal in UK, not enforcing rape laws, etc).

If the situation comes where the government is not protecting the rights of the people, it is up to the people themselves to use their rights (1A, 2A, etc) to further their interests.

because you are only half evil?

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Extreamism in defense of liberty is not a vice.
Centrism in the face of oppression in not a virtue.

>centrism is reasonable goys
>uses cannadian flag
What were you thinking kike?

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Maybe because you're afraid of taking responsibility for your nation, and it's easier for you to regress and say I only care about X subgroup than it is to fix the problems you face.

National Socialism is not right wing.
Crusaders and Islam are right wing.
Hitler was more left than right

Centrism, because half Nazi is OK!

>anyone who tries to abstain from extremist dogma is a Jew
The leftists do the same thing with the term Nazi to decry any dissent.

Also half Communist apparently

>one axis is enough to classify human political systems

And team loyalty does not make truth. Got any other pithy quips?

The left wants to import illegal immigrants to get more votes

The right wants to import illegal immigrants to get workers at a dime an hour.

Most americans don't want to import illegal immigrants, unfortunately they have no say in this matter.

Why do you think populism has been on the rise? Candidates like Trump? Because people want to be heard.

You mistake the political spectrum (which should have at least 2 axes) for the political parties of the US.

Neither major party in the US differs to an objective viewpoint on the issues of populism, because they all cater to the interests of the rich aristocracy (politicians and businessmen).

They are center compared to the liberal and conservative parties elsewhere.

>leave this place for good
See you tomorrow

>I don't know, maybe I just want to be left alone

All good, so long as you know that, it's fine.

Understand though, you are here on this website, full of people who want to fight SJW's/degeneration, hence you are in essence spreading apathy to the people fighting SJW's.

>But they cannot impose their culture on others

yeah aren't imposing their culture on others, they are imposing it on themselves. And when there is enough of them in the country to out vote people in the democracy, they will impose their culture/beliefs on THEIR country.

>but we need to speed assimilation up if we're going to keep taking in third world refugees who breed irresponsibly.

Assimilation is a lie. Equality is a lie. Learn that and stop harming yourself.

Get fucked cunt.

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>muslims are just like you and met
t. retard

lose one gain another

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Trump is still a member of the rich aristocracy. Why in God's name did people think voting for a man who doesn't even need to visit a grocery store regularly and thinks the country should be run like a business (crony capitalism) would act in their interest is left to be seen.

And yet trump has done more for the regular man than any president since Bill "pass me the cigar" Clinton

I don't think he's crony, he didn't take donations. It's a start, at least. Do you really think a regular person could become the President?

Communists and Fascist are both BIG STATE and belong on the same side.

That doesn't exist anymore, both turned populist they just agitate the underclass. Republicans go for rednecks and Democrats for niggers and hispanics. They tell them bs to get voted and that's it. The Romanian proverb for this is literally "the same woman with a different hat".

>they will impose their culture/beliefs on THEIR country.

That is why you must fight and force their children and such to assimilate and entangle themselves in your culture.

Ethnic enclaves exist in every major country. Even in China US expats associate with and live with each other more often than not.

You must fight hard and assert that it is they who must bend to their new nation, not the other way around.

A fucking leaf

Yes, he has. I'm not contesting that he hasn't geld true to SOME of his campaign promises, but even then he has been sabotaged by his host Republican party. The Obamacare repeals are just sitting in Congress, and no work has been done in over a year to pass them. Border wall funding and tax cuts for the people (end in 2020, while the tax cuts for businesses are indefinite) and the border wall funding and timeline are getting caught up and delayed in the usual gridlock and gerrymandering schemes on multiple levels, as part of Democrat and Republican bickering.

We need an entirely new major party because the checks and balances have stopped Trump with bipartisan resistance against him.

>Do you think a regular person can become the President?

Is it so much to ask for someone from the middle class to be President instead of rich people whose only interactions with the masses and the conditions they live in are photo events

Of course at its essence the manufactured left/right paradigm has nothing to do with racism at the agenda's core, and everything to do with the violent struggle between Nationalism and the crime of Globalization/International Monopoly Financial Capital. Being a 'centralist' means you have arrived at a place that will be hell on earth for yourself and your offspring if you are not part of that exclusive global 'control-hub' at the very top of humanity's primitive socioeconomic system/scam.

>Understand though, you are here on this website, full of people who want to fight SJW's/degeneration, hence you are in essence spreading apathy to the people fighting SJW's.
I understand that, which is also why I probably won't come back. I'm not an activist or extremist, but I do find politics interesting. Things have been heating up too much though (I mean, there's a lot of crazies, especially on the left) and I don't want to be in that "world". Unfortunately, it is leaking into video games, movies, work, school, everywhere...

>we all just want to live a good life
This is where you're wrong. You and I may want that, but there are many people who would rather tear you down, control, dominate and destroy you purely out of hatred and spite for who and what you are. You cannot sit down in peace with someone who is trying to kill you.

NatSocs literally were not Fascist you cringy Retard go back to plebbit

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No it's not but it's just the way the corrupt political game works.

The people want action but elites don't care. Don't you think it's strange they couple gun control in the platform of the only major party that can be voted for as NOT REPUBLICAN? Because we need guns to protect our rights from others, but the only party willing to support gun ownership will vote in lock step on forcing the government into your bedroom and body.

Citizens United was a travesty because the average corporation can donate much more money than the average person to PACs. It is effectively unlimited how much businesses can donate to political causes now. Neither major party will touch this.

Exactly. I think proportional representation would be much better, and if you look at some of the shapes people draw voting districts as you would be astonished what they can come up with. They don't even have to be continuous.

And I'm sorry I am not versed in Canadian politics but wrongthink as a concept is becoming very real in places that have strict regulations on gun ownership. Additionally pedo rings run rampant and nobody is willing to stop them except people on this board.

Wrongthink by the leftists and also by political elites, who view any dissent as evil, or at least detest it as so in public.

>It is leaking into video games, movies, work, school, everywhere
And it will continue to spread as long as people like you lay down and refuse to oppose it.

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>So, I'm probably going to leave this place for good.
the fact that you felt the need to make a "googbye" post proves you're full of shit
>12posts
yup, thought so
go blog elsewhere, faggot

> I've decided to become a centrist
Define centrism please

Hey look guys, it's "le radical centrist" who actually thinks he's going to LEAVE!

People with different religions and different races always remain apart.
You can even make the case that people of the same race and religion but different ethnicity never fully assimilate. All that happens is the countries culture stretches to accommodate them.
(Until eventually the country become some globo-homo shopping mall)

Reminder that the idea of assimilation came from Jewish authors, ie, from a people that don't assimilate.
You have been fooled.

jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html
(PDF format) solargeneral.org/wp-content/uploads/library/The-Evolutionary-Dominance-of-Ethnocentric-Cooperation.pdf

yup, it will continue leaking everywhere until it is stopped. I used to be like you, bread and circus's, wanting to be left alone. But I guess I was different because I found messing with SJW's/leftists more fun that playing video games.

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oh look this nigger gets it. seriouslyu to all you faggots who said
>oh just ignore SJWS
go fuck yourselves. that is how they have been allowed to take over all these institutions, forcing companies to creates diversity positons just for them
Chief Diversity Officers is just another word for Commissar.

The people who control extremists are of this type, as well as some political or business elites.

Look up Peter Thiel, his life, and his donation habits. Seasteading in particular. He wants a corporate feudalist dystopia where people allegedly can have enough mobility to go to the best ruler when in fact most of them will probably be too poor to escape, or kept in check by guards and robots.

If you want to be left alone, you have to fight the left for the right to be left alone.

I think people are walking up more than ever. Many things which were conspiracies have been proven true in the past couple or so years. Project Veritas is exposing the extent of corruption in the government. Populist candidates are on the rise because people don't want to be ignored or fucked over by the elite. I mean, I feel something is going on. Not only in America, but also in Europe. I feel like things are changing, but I'm not sure what. The future is uncertain. There are new parties being born. Is it the "movement" Trump says?

I have been fooled? I am assimilated, and so is my family.

Kindly, fuck off with your assumption. Yes some people stay in enclaves but the key is that once they reach successful paths that reduce their breeding rates (going to college and contributing to society) that is better even if there are enclaves.

Certain races and ethnicity may have genes and culture that resists assimilation, but this is part of the problem. Perhaps once we have had 100 years of assimilation as the prevalent attitude rather than racial segregation and the like, then we can consider alternate options.

>Reminder that the idea of assimilation came from Jewish authors, ie, from a people that don't assimilate.

>International Jews

In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognisable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.

- Sir Winston Churchill.

library.flawlesslogic.com/ish.htm

Enclaves aka in-group preference (as shown) are a more reproductively successful method of establishing dominance over the host population.

Okay i'll take your bait;
What does it mean to be American then?

The next election cycle will tell. The Democrats are banking on a win but not many of their candidates or the ones run by Republicans are notably afar from party lines, save for Sanders and his pet Cortez. The problem is that socialism full stop does not work. We can have a mixed system which works better than pure capitalism (stagnant once oligopolies and monopolies form) and pure socialism (stagnant due to inefficiency).

But the political positions I want (All rights preserved, hard on immigration legal and illegal to select from the top candidates only, and either use of government efficiently (laughable) or a reduction and forced competition for alternatives (impossible due to corruption), are unavailable.

Ironically true.
People who hold serious conviction to beliefs are retarded and cornered. Everything is subject to change in light of new information.

>Perhaps once we have had 100 years of assimilation as the prevalent attitude rather than racial segregation and the like, then we can consider alternate options.
jesus fucking christ, you're going to help drive america to ruin. We don't culture assimilation anymore, infact one side argues AGAINST it because that would be
>bowing down to white oppressors

Your taking a long time to respond. It should be intimidate mr American.

Congrats, no one gives a fuck faggot, go hang yourself if you like.

probably because you're just a chink mutt.

based

>I've decided to become a centrist. Extremism of any form is bad.
i agree, i am a moderate, an extremist moderate....so extreme that i believe anyone who is not in favor of compromise or moderation should be castrated, and all of that should be sent to congress, for they seem to need....stones

I used to be a centrist, believing that the two sides need to come together for a compromise, for the sake of progress.

I've changed though, I am now a radical centrist, and believe both sides need to be purged from power, for the sake of progress.

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>I think this is how Trump thinks too

No shit, at least before (((((they)))))) started attacking him and his family. The jews are experts at being so repulsive they can turn normal people into their enemies.

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That presumes the enclaves
>1. Resist assimilation
>2. Reproduce at higher rates consistently than non ethno centric populations

2 is true if they are poor. Like in Japan and Europe, birthrates plateau once people become busy enough and affluent enough to do something other than fuck a lot.
1 is particularly true of Muslims, but Asians (broadly) and Europeans (broadly) have assimilated into mainstream America, with residual enclaves and sentiments sometimes floating about (calling Italians wops, shitting on Irish for Catholocism, ching chong hahaha).

Muslims are a problem, and so are blacks. Some Hispanics have assimilated (see how prevalent they are in the US economy and political system) but the constant influx leads to them accruing greater numbers and enclaves.

What it means to be American, in my book, is to live and enjoy and exercise your rights as given in the Constitution and to promote and defend them against attack from any source.

Whatever else you do is fine as long as it is not illegal, and laws can be changed depending on public attitudes towards the particular issue, all for the betterment of society.

Not all US citizens are Americans to me. If you would not fight for and extend those rights to every citizen, for religious or economic or any reason, you are un-American.

People who exploit others maliciously on identity politics or economic grounds are un-American to me.

The right to dissent is inherently American, but only if you are doing so to preserve the Constitution and help your fellow Americans.

Anarchy as a political ideal is legitimately retarded. Social structures are inate to human beings down to the level we interact with our parents from birth, all our friendships, and even dynamics within our realtionships. You can no more do away with them than you can remove a person's psychological need for touch and interaction which is well studied as essential to mental and emotional well being. Anarchy can only exist ever so briefly as a transitory state before a new order reaserts itself. Anarchists are nothing more than tools for those who wish to tear down existing structures and create a vacuum in which they might attempt to assert their own.

>We don't culture assimilation anymore, infact one side argues AGAINST it because that would be

Listen to your enemy and find out how they attract people. Sometimes they are dogmatic, with a grain of truth behind their criticisms.

For example it is really morally reprehensible what we did to the Native Americans. However, I feel they are a lost cause and reparations would not benefit American society at large. Therefore they should be ignored and their rights placed below that of Americans.

Centrist are the most extreme. Follow that path to planetary collapse. O well it's going to happen because it is written.

Here's you
>So, I'm probably going to leave this place for good.
Here's me
>buh bye

Anarchism is fatally flawed in that anybody with any hierarchy greater than the anarchist group will have superior structures and power to compete with the anarchists and bring about their demise.

It can exist on small scales under the tutelage of another political and philosophical system, but not on its own. It requires too many people to be converted, just like real communism, which isn't even desirable or attainable in practice.

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"Extremism" is a relative term that relies entirely on the context of that current time. Many of the views you find abhorrent or racist were centrist views for pretty much the entire world (still a large part of the world). All you prove is that you're a slave to the current climate because any sort of radical belief would offend
Besides, there's more to left-right than just economics, there's also the notion of equality, view of tradition, and many other aspects

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Churchill also noted there were other types of Jews, harmless and helpful to nationalism, in the same source that quote is from.

No body wanted you here anyway leaf

On the left you have a bunch of hypocrites hiding behind their whataburgers, and on the right you have a bunch of complete morons propping up the cringiest of LARPs and conspiracy theories. Wow, where can I join?