While I've always believed that abortion is the murder of a child (life begins at conception), as an edgy youth I believed, and openly preached, that abortion was a positive to society. To my knowledge, none of my partners ever needed to have one so the issue remained in a stae of limbo without ever reaching a conclsuion of whether I was okay with a woman murdering my own child for her own self-interested (and often hedonistic) principles. This opinion of mine took a hard turn toward an Eugenic's belief on abortion over the course of several years of maturing into an adult (a.k.a what race is it, is this partner a suitable mate, has the woman been abusing drugs/alcohol, etc..)
However this evening I found myself as clkose to the aforementioned conclusion as I've ever come. My girlfriend of several years told me out of the blue that while she hasn't missed her period yet, she feels like she's pregnant. Before I could say anything though she said " I'll just get an abortion though if I am, I'm not ready for a baby" as nonchalantly as someone asking a person to pass the salt at the dinner table. This is when my true inner beliefs flamed to life on the abortion issue. The rage I felt toward this woman who I thought I knew, so calmly describing how she'd MURDER a potential child of mine the same way she'd scrape a bug off the underside of her shoe. The same woman who pounded back drink after drink of hard liquor and wine in the past couple of weeks leading up to her insignificant (in her eyes) confrontation of the issue to me.
To say the least, I verbally berated her until she was a crying sobbing mess. However, I still don't understand why she felt the need to tell me about this when she clearly would have had an abortion despite my thoughts on the matter (considering she basically drank the liquor cabinet the past two weeks before even thinking of telling me). Did she want me to share in her inevitable guilt?
It happened less than 2 hours ago. Swear on me mum.
Michael Reyes
She thinks it's a non-issue, she's been told so by the media and society in general. It's "her choice" and whatever she does is a good choice, even if she kills the baby, "it's not even a baby yet" clause is activated.
Jackson Walker
You know what the problem with pro-life arguments is?
Pro-life arguments are based on the assumption that all life has value.
Jose Stewart
My mum gave birth to me when she was 45. There was a real pressure on her from pretty much everyone around her, her sisters, even my dad, that she should abort me. Thankfully for me, she was pretty stubborn about it all. Because of this, even when I was a normie, I always considered abortion as something immoral and opposed it. I don't have a wife or a gf but I would never be with someone who would have an abortion.
Ryder Roberts
This guy's got it. She has been brainwashed by new society to think this is normalized. This is not normal.
Liam Rogers
well if it's your mum. you going to break up with her?
Jeremiah Watson
She's pro abortion, but I'm turning her. All you have to do is get them to be around babies and activate their natural maternal instincts.
Yes, she did. She isn't cool with it. It's not a small thing for her. Take it from someone who's been through the ordeal (welp, as much as a man can go through one), it will fuck her up emotionally and possibly physically.
She NEEDS to pretend that it's like going to the dentist, because facing the reality of it is too painful. The decision stays with you for the rest of your life. The guilt will sour every joyous occasion you experience from then on, either together, alone or with someone new.
The only way to diminish it is to pretend it's not a big deal, even though it's eating you from the inside. You really should ease up on her, especially if you want the child.
my wife is absolutely against abortion which, living in germany, makes me fear what happens if she got pregnant through rape, because while I want my own children, I will definetely not raise some raping mudslimes spawn
Jonathan Gonzalez
>n/a
Joshua Miller
I berated her enough to briefly break her female perception on abortion (my body, my choice! And my choice is always kill it!) and made her feel like a human being that was morally okay with murdering a child growing in her own body for reasons that boiled down to simple vanity and selfish excuses. She kept saying "I didn't know you felt this way" through tears and my response was:
"MY CHILD. YOU WOULD KILL MY CHILD. AND FOR WHAT? BECAUSE IT DOESN't FIT INTO YOUR WORK SCHEDULE? IT MIGHT INCONVENIENCE YOUR INSIGNIFICANT LIFE? YOU'RE A FUCKING MONSTER. DO YOU REALIZE HOW SICK A PERSON HAS TO BE TO MURDER THEIR UNBORN CHILD! YOU DISGUSTING STUPID WHORE. YOU DUMB BITCH! YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH! IF YOU EVER GET AN ABORTION WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW IS A FUCKING FIRECRACKER COMPARED TO THE A-BOMB I'D DROP ON YOUR CUNT FACE WHEN I DID FIND OUT. AND YOU BETTER BELIEVE I WOULD FIND OUT YOU STUPID CUNT. THEN YOU'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO A CHILD MURDERER WHEN FACED BY A GOOD MAN STRIPPED OF HIS RIGHT TO BE A FATHER."
It was a B+ script at best, since this confession of hers came out of fucking nowhere. The BIG GUN I've held in the =back-up chamber for 3 years now is that during college I'd fuck her younger hotter sister on the regular (sometime's she'd be in the next room). If she fucks up big time, out will come that whopper of a soul crusher (along with the documented proof). Hopefully it never comes to that though. She's a good woman apart from this recent fiasco (and she drinks a bit too much)
I saw that campaign in the news. I can't believe women are proudly declaring they had an abortion like it's a good thing. :(
Liam Walker
>I'm against abortion >except when I feel like it
Nathan Thomas
nah she's a good lay Also knows how I like my pb&j's (crust cut off and sliced diagonally) That's some value that just can't be taught
Carson Mitchell
>Wants to have a child with a disgusting stupid whore >"GOOD MAN"
I hope you don't have a similar issue with killing yourself m8
Mason Gutierrez
lawl, you're a degenerate retard then, you also adulterated with her sister, She was doing you a solid by making your genes stop there. PB&J is 3 fucking ingredients.
Why are you okay with letting your genes (and likely your entire lineage) die with you? On some level, a man's life is not his own. It belongs in part to the thousands before him that bore his name that toiled, sweated, overcame, and survived long enough to procreate before dying horrible deaths of every gory color and diseased flavor.
If those men saw you now. Penetrating/being penetrated by another man in the anus exclusively (nothing inherently wrong with homosexual play, but keep it among the boys and out of the street) they would kill you out of shame. Even up till the 1960's if you were "gay" you were basically expected to have a beard, which you then had kids with.
You're cool with letting your line die with you, huh? >inb4 surrogate meme
I said she is, I never said anything about me I myself am coflicted about this because yes, I am against abortion and would prefer giving the child away, or whatever, but I definetely won't raise it
Carter Stewart
You'd be surprised how many seemingly hardcore conservative women are pro-abortion *cough* Lauren Southern *cough* *cough* Anne Coulter *cough*. It's not just them though, it's essentially all women. They really took the bate when the marketing campaign for "My Body, My Choice" was set into motion a couple of decades ago. they all literally just repeat that over and over in different capacities.
>Am I a good man? As all men, all I can claim is that I try to be.
She came onto me and she was 18 years worth of some of the finest ass I'd ever had the pleasure of penetrating. A real freak. I regret nothing.
Chase James
>t. Doesn't know how many million are in a billion
Connor Morales
>The rage I felt toward this woman who I thought I knew, so calmly describing how she'd MURDER a potential child of mine the same way she'd scrape a bug off the underside of her shoe. real and powerful feel right here
Nathan White
>PB&J is 3 fucking ingredients. Being this much of a pleb must be difficult. PB&J is literally one of the most nuanced sandwiches in existence. There is a reason that people say that the divine lies in the simplest of things.
Grayson Evans
>abortion was a positive to society It is when you don't want the """people""" getting abortions creating and raising offspring.
Zygotes don't have souls, get the fuck over yourself.
Jeremiah Miller
>If she fucks up big time, out will come that whopper of a soul crusher she will have 6 abortions to get back at you for this js you actual degenerate retard
Kayden Martin
>YOU DISGUSTING STUPID WHORE nigga what there is a rational way to explain this and this isn't it. How is she a whore if she's only fucking you
Isaac Wright
>Yes, she did. She isn't cool with it. It's not a small thing for her. Why did she do it? >You really should ease up on her, especially if you want the child. Fuck her. If she kills my child I would psychology ruin her for decades to come. It may be her body, but it is my choice. Period.
Isaiah Williams
>RIGHT TO BE A FATHER this isn't a thing yeah OP you're actually dumber than rocks. Legit the most complete fucking mong post I've read this year.
Jason Bennett
Women are much closer to death and nature than men. A lot of pregnancies ends up in miscarriages anyway.
All a woman has to do to prove her worth is to bear children. Everything else can be regarded as a nice bonus.
There's no male equivalent to motherhood. Everything a man does be it wage war, write books, program computers, tar roofs, create art, train horses, do research etc is just a substitute for motherhood.
A man that says that "if I was a woman, I would never X" is not a real man. He's just a half-man. An aberration the catholic church is producing on an industrial grade.
Yeah, imagine being such a cuck that you're cucked by the very fact that women exists.
Thomas Gutierrez
dk what this even means but it also sounds retarded
Ethan Powell
i wish i was aborted desu
Brody Sanchez
Oh. Hi Canada. I know your country's pastime is eating the still steaming shit out of the hemorrhoided fat asses of 3rd wave Jewish feminists, and has been since they migrated up there in the 1960's. So I understand your obvious ignorance to the rights a man has when his seed of life creates a divine union with the egg of a woman.
The result is a literal miracle. A child, life. 9 months of discomfort for a female is not even close to a valid reason to let her kill her own child. Especially if the man wants her to have it.
Even the worst life is a gift. The worst torture, physical or mental, is a warm embrace compared to the cold void. It is all a gift.
Alexander Hill
My girlfriend doesn't really consider abortion a big deal, assuming it's early. She had an abortion in a previous relationship. It's at odds with my views, since while I support the legality of abortion, I find it morally uncomfortable and am not sure if I'd be okay with it personally.
Levi Turner
turbolarp
Nicholas Walker
See: >RIGHT TO BE A FATHER
Ayden Thompson
This, women don't really have their own morality, theirs is always an extension of what popular culture says their morality should be
Jordan Cooper
Googled "war death in all of history", 1 billion is a liberal high end estimate for war dead.
numberofabortions.com >1.5 billion abortions since 1980 the only inaccuracy in op's pic is women accomplished their goal in 38 years, not 40.
Who cares about some overly emotional woman's opinion on the subject. Abortion keeps the violent ghetto nigger population from exploding so I'm all for it!
Aaron Moore
they paid 200,000 bucks on IVF
Camden Collins
>she will have 6 abortions to get back at you for this js you actual degenerate retard If I ever need to use "The Big Gun" the relationship would already be effectively over. That would just be the last cut before never seeing her again. The type of cut where you twist the knife after the stab, so the wound can't close, and bleeds and bleeds.
women have no views of their own. If she has a wise, moral man/father, she will get her values from him. The smarter she is the better he can explain and flesh out her understanding on life. If there is no patriarchal figure like that in her life, the state and oligarchs become her daddy and she'll be brainwashed to adopt whatever values are best for the economy and controlling the population.
Hunter Taylor
Shut up memeflag
Jeremiah Rivera
While that isn't necessarily "natural", you wouldn't be here if your conscious wasn't meant to be present. Order among the chaos and whatnot.
Oliver Sanchez
Obviously. It's my white child in question though. It would have a high IQ, be raised in a upper-class setting, and almost certainly be a chad.
Abortion clinics should be government mandated to be built in lower class neighborhoods as soon as they hit a certain level of poverty.
She's 1 of 8 daughters and was part of a backwoods Christianity cult/sect and she was home-schooled. Did she have a good role model in her father? No. I would say no.
William Anderson
If you just now realize women are fucking retarded i have bad news for you pal.
Xavier Cook
It's million a year in Russia alone. I would guess 5-10 million for the whole world. In 40 years that's staggering 200-400 million lives of kids terminated. Most of them healthy and not any other circumstances than being not wanted.
Eli Price
lmao, you're both human trash
Christian Evans
Caring about anyone having abortions who isn't your wife is objectively numale tier. Girlfriends and slam piggies aren't for breeding with. You should actively encourage them to abort if you're ever stupid enough to get them pregnant.
Ryder Martinez
Man, that was a lot of retarded things in one reddit spaced paragraph. I don't even feel like arguing with you, I just wanna call you retarded, so don't bother responding back.
Jonathan Foster
It's 30 million worldwide just this year to date. Recall "only" 20 million Russianso died in WW2. numberofabortions.com
Parker Howard
if you ever told her, it would excuse any bad behavior she ever presented, in her mind. It would serve nothing but jerking off your ego
Blake Wright
million a year of abortions (or maybe a bit over). I don't know what ww2 has anything to do with what I said? Also I was guesstimating 5-10 million for the world. 30 million sounds excessive, but it might as well be true, I don't know
Mason Price
My advice is to find out if she's pregnant, if she isn't then leave her. You can't be with someone like that who values the life of their unborn children so lowly. My wife and I have always agreed that abortion shouldn't be allowed unless in the case of birth defects or rape. When we found out she was pregnant, the idea of 'aborting' (murdering) our unborn child never even came up, despite it not being the best time for us. We made it work because blood is the most important thing on this earth. As I type this, my newborn son is asleep on my chest. Never be with a woman who would deny you the continuation of your lineage.
Best advice in the thread. Thanks Brit. I believe your suggestion will come to pass in the near future.
Jordan Jenkins
You linage is 100% dead end unless you secure borders and you can make as many British children as you want. Having 100 white people is better than having 100000000 black people and 100000 white people in country.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Not really the point of my post but I agree
Chase Hill
Correction: Having 100 white people and 0 black people in country is better than having 100000000 black people and 100000 white people in country. Your lineage is secured, for now, but unlikely in future, since your child will marry a non-Brit. First country needs to be fixed, before we can talk about lineage. People meet, people fuck, children come out, it's not rocket science, but for lineage you need cooperation of country.
Austin Robinson
Her view is that she gun do whatever the fuck I say unless she want to be the one getting aborted.