Devs Sep 21 >/sg/ on life support >Russia blames Israel for Il-20 crash >Afrin:YPG claims it killed 2 turkish soldiers in an ambushed on a military vehicle& other 3 mercs in different ambush >SAA launches heavy attack along Idlib-Hama axis. Targets the rebel-held towns of Kafr Zita, Al-Lataminah, Zakat, Aleywi, Sukeek, Taman’ah, Umm Khalakheel, and Khuwayn >Lavrov:Russia-Turkey deal on Idlib only ‘intermediate step’. by mid-October all heavy weaponry and the HTS militants should be moved out of the area >US-BACKED FORCES ADVANCE TOWARDS HAJIN IN EUPHRATES VALLEY >Israeli version of IL-20 incident:SyAADF units fired without aiming.did not bother to ensure that no Russian planes were in the air >IS claims in past two months it killed 500 SAA fighters during clashes in the Damascus desert, stopped 'dozens'attacks& destroyed 6 battle tanks&13 vehicles >WSJ:Leaked memo shows US overlooked mass civilian deaths in Yemen to preserve arms sales >Yemeni regime slams UN’s agreement with Houthis to provide air-bridge for medical patients
Thread: #Russia's @mod_russia begins a minute-by-minute account of the #Il20 downing, claimz the inqury shows #Israel's culpability and either its military bosses' lack of appreciation of relations with #Moscow, or their control of commanding officers.
#Russia's MoD argues thay after its own inquiry into #Il20 incident they conclude that #Israel/i actions constitute either "unprofessionalism" or "at least criminal neglegence"; MoD lays out minute-by-minute account of events on that day.
#Russia's @mod_russia: on that day at 9:39 local time ISR informed RUS of coming attack on #Syria. 9:40 first strikes launched on Latakia; 9:51 SYR airdefense begins engaging ISR jets; 9:59 one od ISR F-16 approaches Il-20 which by then began landing...
Maxim A. Suchkov
@MSuchkov_ALM 5h5 hours ago More ...SYR air-defenses saw it as another ISR atrempt to strike;10:03pm SYR missile hit bigger target than F15 jet- RUS Il-20. Captain of plane reported fire on board & start of emergency landing;10:07 plane disappeared from radars.Yet ISR jets remained in SYR airspace until 10:40
Carson Allen
In addition to earlier complaints that ISR warned RU too late&covered-up by RU plane for the sttikes,@mod_russia adds 2 more:contrary to #IDF reports,ISR jets didnt leave SYR airspace by the time Il20 was hit & ISR misinfored RU on area of strikes(said it'd hit North,not Latakia)
Remarkably, @mod_russia says "behavior of ISR pilits is radically different from American aviation who fully cimply w/ de-confliction agreement & warn of use of air force promtly ahead of time and hich helps avoid dangers for #Russia/n, #US servicemen"
.@mod_russia concludes by calling #Israel's actions "ungrateful",presents long list of favors #Moscow did ISR throughout #Syria campaign: "1.We never used air own air-defenses to counter ISR strikes though they posed risks for our servicemen.."
.@mod_russia: Since 2015 when de-confliction agrment w/ #Israel entered into force,#Russia sent 310 notifications on use of its air force within ISR borders while ISR sent only 25 such notifications before sttikes yet launched over 200 strikes over this time on objects in #Syria
Colton Turner
I never come here but I heard your general is dying. What happened? You sandniggers run out of sandnigger drama about some goat fucker killing or raping a bunch of other goat fuckers?
Luis Clark
@mod_russia: 2.Upon #Israrl/i request #Russia, for the sake of ISR security, agreed to patrol-after 6 years-Golan Heights area separating SYR & ISR w/ UN peacekeepers under protection by RUS military police
@mod_russia:3.Upon #Israel/i request #Russia engaged in consultations w #Iran.As a result IRN militias had to pull down heavy arms from Golan Hs for over 140 km to the east. 1050 fighters, 24 missile launching pads & 145 units of other arms & vehicles were withdrawn.
@mod_russia: 4.Upon #Israel/i request #Russia ensured that "sensetive arms"#Moscow supplied to #Syria wont end up eith third parties threatening ISR security. RU returned to ISR tank captured in 1982 in #Lebanon. 5. RU helped preserve sacred Jewish objects,burial sites in Aleppo
.@mod_russia: 6.Upon #Israel/i request #Russia conducted search missions for remains & bodies of ISR soldiers killed in SYR in previous wars.Some of the missions were held in #ISIS-controlled areas & RU groups were often attacked,people injured,but RU were still ready to continue
.@mod_russia concludes: Against the background,hostile actions by vis-a-vis #Il20 "go beyond civilized way of building relationships.They either dont appreciate level of rels w or have no conttol over their commanders who understand their actions lead to tragedies"
@IAFsite: ...the relevant timeframe (as it has been operating over the last two and a half years); the IAF did not hide behind any aircraft and that the Israeli aircraft were in Israeli airspace at the time of the downing of the Russian plane
@IAFsite: In addition, as we saw during this incident, the use of advanced weapons by irresponsible entities significantly endangers the area and can severely harm forces operating in the region
Slide that was shared at the Russian presser of the air traffic on 17 Sep 2018 at 21:40 local (18:40UTC) looks plausible. shown in green, MEA430 flying at FL350 (10.6km altitude), FBA911 at about 7.9km and tagged in yellow (="Unknown") QTR401 (C015) at 10.7km
But the war is not over yet. There is just a lull currently since most of the easy gainz have been made. The tensions remain high. Please don't die /sg/
Carter Watson
ISR response:
Latest Russ Mod presser further proves Russian-Syrian incompetence in spyplane downing. IAF struck 2141 from W of Latakia while Russ plane was NE Latakia. Syrian SAMs started 2151. Instead of mov 2 safety+prohibiting Syr launch, Russ flew into danger zone where it was downed 2203
>liveuamap didn't update for since 7 hours >globaleventmap since 3 hours i think it's over but how is it going to end between kurds and the syrian government not to mention the turk infested area of afrin
I think we should change to /cg/, but go back to /sg/ when/if there’s an Idlib offensive
Tyler Parker
kek, you can't trust lyrics sites, especially for rap. they are almost never completely accurate
niggas don't want war with us, niggas don't want war with me try to play me like a pussy, til we meet again, we gone see
Ethan Ortiz
>* - Even after the charge of the Russian spy plane being dropped over the name of the Latakia district on Israel, the Russian Ministry of Defense stresses that they have no intention of using Russian air defense systems in Syria against Israeli Air Force planes.
Ruptly youtube.com/watch?v=EO4MrqUo8dk Iranian President Hassan Rouhani accused the United States of wanting to cause insecurity in Iran, a day after an attack on a military parade killed at least 25 and injured 60, in the southwestern city of Ahvaz.
Speaking from Tehran’s Mehrabad Airport, on Sunday, before leaving for New York City to attend the UN General Assembly, Rouhani accused the US of allowing its Gulf Arab allies to dispense financial and military support to armed anti-government groups in Iran.
“All these little mercenary countries that we see in this region have the backing of the United States. It is the Americans who are agitating them. It is the Americans who are providing them with the required circumstances to commit such crimes,” Rouhani said.
Jace Peterson
fall has begun
Sebastian Cruz
Ruptly youtube.com/watch?v=YS1c5u6gYgA Russian Ministry of Defence spokesperson Major General Igor Konashenkov announced that Israel was guilty of downing the Russian aircraft Il-20, during a briefing in Moscow on Sunday.
"We believe that the blame for the tragedy with the Russian Ilyushin Il-20 aircraft lies entirely with the Israeli air forces and those who made the decision to carry out such actions," he said.
Konashenkov also remarked that in the area, civilian passenger flight was using that airspace and therefore the Israeli side could have created a dangerous situation for them as well.
Konashenkov added that "Israel did not inform the Russian force about its operation in advance - but rather they issued a warning simultaneously with the beginning of the strikes, which constitutes a breach of the existing agreements."
The Il-20 was downed by Syrian anti-aircraft missile systems confused by Israeli air forces, which used the radar cover of the Russian Il-20 aircraft.
"It was impossible for the Israeli pilot not to be aware of the fact that the Ilyushin Il-20 has a much larger radar cross-section than that of a F-16 jet and because of that, the Russian aircraft would be the preferred target for the anti-aircraft missile," he added.
Austin Gonzalez
>battle of East Euphrates will be the last battles in the war for Syria
>>The number of displaced people has hit a new record. After decades of improvement, more of the world's poor are going hungry. because they are having the most children
>feed a bunch of useless niggers >useless niggers reproduce >reach the point where you can't feed all the useless niggers >let them die while you flail around trying to make anybody give a shit
More like >Mutts want to destroy country >Do nothing to stop them >Mutts destroy it and cause massive population displacements and migrant crises Fuck the UN
>/gg/ - Geopolitics General Much better ring to it, and makes more sense since we discuss basically everything here not just war
Ethan King
TRT World [ Idlib ] youtube.com/watch?v=e9MefM1msoo Russia and Turkey have agreed on the borders for a demilitarised zone around Idlib - as part of a deal to try and avoid a Syrian regime offensive in the province. TRT World's Middle East team gained access to Syria's Idlib to gauge what people think about this apparent truce.
Justin Morgan
did you just assume my talking topics?
Cameron Cox
it won't be long until it touches advanced civilizations too. it will be worse too because dependency in the developed world (west) is far greater
pandemic hits and transportation networks fail. plus bioterrorism at major food producers. the response is always excessive, because 1 death is a tragedy yadda yadda. before you know it...
>Eating dogs and cats banned in U.S. in House-passed bill
>‘Criminal negligence’ or disregard to Russia-Israel ties: MoD details chronology of Il-20 downing
A minute-by-minute account of the Il-20 downing shows Israel's culpability and either its military bosses' lack of appreciation of relations with Moscow, or their control of commanding officers, the Russian defense ministry said. "We believe that the blame for the Russian Il-20 aircraft tragedy lies entirely with the Israeli Air Force," said spokesman Major General Igor Konashenkov, before revealing a detailed account of events leading to the downing of the Russian Il-20 military aircraft on September 17. The plane was shot down by the Syrian air defense units as Israeli's F-16s effectively used it as a cover during the attack on its neighbor.
The report featured previously undisclosed radar data and details of communications between Russian and Israeli militaries, and concluded that "the military leadership of Israel either has no appreciation for the level of relations with Russia, or has no control over individual commands or commanding officers who understood that their actions would lead to tragedy."
