In light of the Neoliberal trickle down, Free Trade Agreements,union withdrawal, deindustrialisation, deregulation, subsidies, visas, refugees et al bullshit after 30+ years I have considered the following:
>Be in Australia, USA, Canada, New Zealand and Europe >Join union in field >Encourage others to join >Negotiate wages and conditions >Grant businesses from countries with the highest pay and best working conditions entry >So if its Denmark for instance negotiate with the government to grant Danish businesses to operate in your country >Pay increases, working conditions improve and living standards increase and so opportunity >t. reverse cuck
>be me >work for union >half the people do all the work while the other half do nothing
Adrian Sanchez
Was once in Public Sector Union. The conditions and pay they request are hilarious. The bitch representative used to roll her eyes whenever a white man asked her a question just becoz.
Had work accident, gf says I should get a job in a Union. Job?
Anthony Morgan
>get paid the same
Hudson Martin
>be me >not union >half the people do all the work >no one gets fired or reprimanded >still get paid the same
Noah Reyes
ITT: People who have never worked in or around unions
Having managed a shift of ~60 union employees in a company of about 400 union employees, I can say that unions are absolute shit. The people who have never been around unions complain about the "defending poor workers" thing, but the real problem is how insanely bureaucratic unions are. They wont grieve shit that actually impacts their workers, just stuff that goes against procedure or precedent. The lazy fuckers stopped caring about workers, and more pseudo-legal precedent setting decisions. Fuck unions man.
Tyler Morris
>the other half do nothing
Sure, you dont get to see them do anything because you are at your place doing your work. Or maybe because you hear them talking then its because "they do nothing".
Samuel Jones
Why can't Americans into proper unions? Are they too retarded?
You say they dont care but they seem to rally and support workers in disputes.
By bringing companies from countries with high wages like for instance Denmark pay and conditions would improve too. I mean wouldnt a Danish company entice you in your city to work at lets say 10%-15% more pay, better and safer equipment and an extra week of leave?
US unions a shit. Taft-Hartley was a long, slow poison pill for the US union movement. Now they're mostly just an extension of management playing its own members and employees off against one another. >wouldnt a Danish company On the one hand, US VW plants could have had the labor council thing that UAWfags hate. On the other hand, IKEA opened a plant in the US because of, not despite, the USA's cucked and cheap labor force.
>implying the only possible configuration for labor unionism is that authorized by the industrialists in the National Labor Relations Act Unions were extremely effective back when they firebombed the bosses who sicced the private mercenaries on them.
Cameron Thomas
all they care about is taking a cut of your paycheck
Andrew Rodriguez
judging by the flags in this thread and the arguments made i would wager that unions in the US are more fucked than other places. I'm a non-union worker and am ambivalent about how useful one would be but I am not outright opposed to them. Ideally they would be great but I don't want another layer of shit bureaucracy/management over me.
Wyatt Long
>have had the labor council thing that UAWfags hate
Just explain that, I dont get that part. Seems like some historical thing localised in burgerland. To be fair though there had been times in Australia (as few as they were) when the unions and directors did not include the actual workers in the deal.
>On the other hand, IKEA
IKEA despite being from a country with good wages and economy its among the scummy sort. You wanted a Sven but got a Viking raider instead, not exactly your fault. I really do wonder whether they paid 5%-10% and were slightly more ergonomical and work-life balance than other American furniture retailers. If you got an other Swedish company lets say Electrolux (implying Electrolux isnt as scummy or worse than IKEA) that could actually be a great place to work all-round from facilities to pay, from leave to break times etc. Other American companies would also restructure their employee remuneration too to keep Steve, Tom, Bianca and Sally.
Pretty much reverse cucking neoliberalism.
Oliver Cooper
Start a new union. I know, I know we can barely become motivated to do the dishes, laundry and other forms of housekeeping. Having said that it can become easier with more people involved, alternatively hold YOUR union to account. I did that when they did not get back to me a matter soon enough and they apologised profoundly. That way they can know the next time their deal with someone to be more diligent.
Evan Garcia
Btw for the burgerbros in burgerland here is a (long) article about the history of unions in the USA
By the Stalinist era of the 1930s, it was clear that the party and government made the rules and that the trade unions were not permitted to challenge them in any substantial way. In the decades after Stalin, the worst of the powerlessness of the unions was past, but Soviet trade unions remained something closer to company unions, answering to the party and government, than to truly independent organizations.
I'm not well-versed in how the labor council thing works, unfortunately, but I understand it does allow for some measure of worker control over the drection of the company. It's German, not American. The few times American unions have had the whip hand was tantamount to low-level civil war. >Electrolux Alas, they ran off to Mexico already, leaving behind hundreds of jobless and basically destroying their upper Midwest factory town. >restructure their employee remuneration A lot of pieces would have to move to give that a reason to happen.
Sounds about like what we have in the US.
Juan Phillips
Anybody against unions is a boot licking democrat these days. Capitalism means workers can sell their work together and I've never heard a complaint about union bureaucracy that didn't apply just the same to corporate bureaucracy. It's the only way the vast majority of us can compete against the globalists.
Matthew Morales
>implying this doesn't happen without unions.
Liam Robinson
We have those without unions as well. It's called HR and Diversity hires.
Zachary Reyes
>but I understand it does allow for some measure of worker control over the drection of the company
Very interesting and quite helpful provided that the climate is peaceful and mellow.
> The few times American unions have had the whip hand was tantamount to low-level civil war.
I read that part of the article and that happened during the time of Rockefeller too, pretty based.
>Alas, they ran off to Mexico already
Fuck that sucks mate, it would be pretty funny if people gathered all the serial numbers and dates of the Electrolux products that we produced in the USA ad get people to avoid any other sort. Even creating an aftermarket whereby workers in the USA can make the spare parts of those fridges built in the USA, even forming co-ops. Just like in Australia, Canada, NZ and Europe if they fuck off inform the public to buy fridges with the certain serial and date number, make aftermarket parts and even full "replicas" of those fridges with updates and upgrades. The story of Mondragon was interesting that before its founding the Catholic priest said something like "If we wait for the capitalists would be waiting forever" dont quote me on that. They went on to establish the co-op Mondragon with a 8:1 gap, that is to say that the highest salary/wage can be 8 times more at the most than the lowest.
Zachary Rivera
>It's the only way the vast majority of us can compete against the globalists.
Reverse cucking the globalists and neoliberals. Encouraging companies from countries with the highest pays and best working conditions to open for business in the country and getting businesses as a result to adjust their remuneration packages. If they close and go overseas inform the public of the serial numbers and build dates that were made in the country and tell them to buy those manufactures/products. Then make a national aftermarket to make and sell parts for those products, full built replicas with updates and upgrades and custom builds and even co-ops.
It would be hilarious if makes the neoliberals and globalists opt out and advocate for protections and supporting local companies.
Luke Bennett
>b-buh I can negotiate with my baws! [laughs in union]
You guys know when governments cut social programs and the said safety net yet keep corporate welfare and tax cuts while the rest pay more taxes than the corporations? You know when they have dual citizenship and inversions for tax havens?
Well in reverse cucking the neoliberals and globalists get the national union to pair with a union in a country with great social programs, lets say Sweden, then attain Swedish citizenship while still holding your original citizenship in your country, nominate to participate in the Swedish tax affairs, pay to the Swedish system and receive Swedish style benefits and welfare. BOOM you get social programs and fuck corporate welfare and the neoliberals and globalists in corporations and government!
Being in a union is like having a college degree. People will shit on you for wasting so much money on a college degree but I'm guaranteed for companies to actually review my resume instead of throwing it in the trash. Same for unions, I'm guaranteed benefits, but people will bitch about the cons regardless.
let's people like me have 20 days off a year and work comfortably I bet if you faggots weren't giving fast food employees 3 months off per year you wouldn't need to import the entire third world to pay for your mums pension
