>The Italian government on Monday adopted a heavily-criticised security decree which will make it easier to expel migrants and strip them of Italian citizenship.
>It will help Italy "be stronger in the fight against the mafia and (people) smugglers, reduce the costs of excessive immigration, expel delinquents and fake refugees, strip terrorists of citizenship, (and) give the police greater powers," Salvini said.
>Humanitarian protection -- a lower level of asylum status that is based on Italian rather than international law -- that was awarded to 25 percent of asylum seekers last year would henceforth be awarded based on six strict criteria.
>Those seeking refugee status will now have their requests suspended if they are considered "socially dangerous or convicted in the first instance" of crimes, while their appeals are ongoing.
>The new law also lets local police have Taser stun guns and makes it easier to evict squatters by getting rid of the obligation of finding provisional housing for the most vulnerable.
>One of the most controversial measures in the bill provides for stripping immigrants of their Italian nationality if they are convicted of "terrorism".
This is what the article said on the criticism: >The controversial bill has been heavily criticised in recent weeks, including by members of the anti-establishment Five Star Movement (M5S) which governs in coalition with Salvini's far-right League.
Makes me feel like people were right, the 5 Star wasn't that radical.
Jace Kelly
Sounds reasonable is what it should be, there's nothing controversial about it.
Do you think they will strip a lot of immigrants of citizenship or is this just a safety feature on the bill? So they are just making a fuss because they want to be seen as compassionate?
Jordan Reed
>So they are just making a fuss because they want to be seen as compassionate? More like Fake News is picking out 1 representative from like 200 and pretending he represents the party. The vast majority of M5S needed to vote for this for it to pass.
Owen Ward
Thats pretty slanted if they are picking out one guy that way. >But Maurizio Martina, the head of the opposition, centre-Left Democratic Party, said the decree would lead to an increase in “clandestine” immigration as migrants tried to bypass the new laws. Do you think hes right or is this BS excuses to keep the laws in place as they are?
>do you think this left wing commie is right? they're never right user
Xavier Adams
i hope he stays with what he said to stop those subhumans and send them back to apefrica and not just send them forward to west europe really all of the meds need to send them back and finally contribute something to europe
Jace Peterson
I mean even if it does cause "clandestine" immigration, wouldn't Italy just find them and deport them still? They arn't that hard to spot when they are black.
Bentley Hill
Being a commie is the last of his flaws, Martina is a total brainlet with sub-90 IQ who has proven to be extremely retarded even for leftists' standards. Renzi chose him because he's the perfect puppet.
Nicholas Reed
hopefully now they are in good favour with based Poseidon
Nicholas Roberts
What else has he done thats retarded? Anything in particular?
Jordan Thompson
>I mean even if it does cause "clandestine" immigration, wouldn't Italy just find them and deport them still? Yeah his response doesn't make any sense, as usual... he's basically saying the only thing that keeps a nigger from nigging is having a piece of paper that says he's allowed to stay in the country for 2 years
Jacob Jenkins
Salvini has parents from Calabria. They are lterally shitskin half-breeds.
Samuel Martin
Why are you hiding your flag?
Gavin Hall
>I mean even if it does cause "clandestine" immigration, wouldn't Italy just find them and deport them still? They arn't that hard to spot when they are black.
The current law (which those Northern League morons passed years ago) states that you have to deport niggers to their country of origin, but no nigger has any papers, so they just leave them free. Yes, it's as retarded as it looks.
Jaxon Williams
Why is it always a memeflag stirring shit up? Salvini isn't from Calabria you stupid mongrel. Show your flag
William Mitchell
You are right.. that is not logical. I think all this registration is hot they get money from groups to be quite honest.
David Smith
Fake news.
Hudson Gonzalez
Here you are, froggie.
Italy is fucked. Not my country anymore.
And Salvini's grandparents are from Calabria. He even got elected there. He was also a commie in his youth. That's why Italy is fucked. Stupid commie morons playing patriots on facebook got into power.
Xavier Torres
MAKE ITALY GREAT AGAIN
Nicholas Baker
>The current law (which those Northern League morons passed years ago) states that you have to deport niggers to their country of origin Good luck trying to convince a random country to take half a million niggers from a different country
Adrian Hughes
Can this man become more Based?
Ethan Sanders
Gas it is
Nathaniel Robinson
Just send em to Apefrica and let them figure out the rest. Prison ships are preferable.
Zachary Baker
>Do you think hes right or is this BS excuses to keep the laws in place as they are? it's badly translated, anyway he's right, the new laws will increase the number of clandestines simply because they'll be considered as such instead of refugees.
If it were for him he'd extend citizenship to every nigger setting foot on italian soil and boast a 0 clandestines result
Ryder Lewis
Salvini just can't stop winning. Keep on rolling pastas.
you mean slave ships? I wonder how easy it would be to just put a chip in them like you do from your vet to track a pet. Probably too much work plus they would just dig it out. checked. No I odn't think anything will stop him short of death. He is really dedicated. You can see it.
Leave them to burn in the fucking Sahara, see how their shitcountries papers magically show up.
Point is that the law has a loophole the size of a commie's asshole, and those half-commie League suckers made that up. Now another half commie League sucker just forgets to fix precisely THAT. Do you need help doing the math?
Hudson Wood
You know Europe is deliberately under attack when these normal, perfectly sane measures that should have been in place for decades are now considered controversial.
Christian Walker
He realy take his job seriously and still smug. I expected traditional politic shit from him. All talks, no actions. White pill messiah. Salvini is proof that we can stop white genocide. We just need people willing to do it and support them. Trump was right choice but he is not hard enough ( maybe because he don't want to end like JFK ). History will remember him. Italians should thank god for him.
It's not enough but it brings me hope. Still, everything can be undone very quickly with enough pressure. Problems won't be fixed, just patched,unless you fix the JQ first.
Gabriel Morgan
Yes I hope they put Salvini in Italian History books. I think they should and write about the amount of good one man can do in his country. I think Trump is going a lot economically and trying to pull many resources away from asia, though I wouldn't be shocked if we go to war with China in a few years. But Salvina is what Italy needs as well as Europe seeing as they are a kind of beachhead.
Joseph Powell
M5S are a mixed group made up by both lefties, centrists and cucks. Salvini need to be elected alone.
Robert Edwards
Lega is controlled opposition.
Nicholas Miller
>[right wing anti-immigration party] is too moderate/controlled opposition, we must wait for the second coming of Hitler, it doesn't matter if in the meantime our country will turn into brazil How to spot shills and falseflagging leftist.
Leo Carter
If this is your controlled opposition what would be your real far right? RWDS gunning down every nog on sight?
It's actually extremely light stuff, rather disappointing.
Luke Garcia
Actually it's not ''the law'' that says you have to return them to their country of origin. It's simple logic, how can you deport a guy if you don't have a destination?
It's the same as any other European country.
Evan Martinez
Can't we engineer a foxdie virus who targets the DNA of the commies?
Yep, him. He's been going against both Salvini and Di Maio ever since the government was formed.
Hunter Harris
>more shitskins avoiding the "accoglienza" (=asylum request) system >less taxpayer money spent on these parasites and going into mafia's pockets >illegal migrant caught will lead to more repatriations
It's a win-win situation
Oliver Edwards
Trump is far too cucked to even consider doing this to hispanics. I wish I could gain an ancestry visa and move back to Italy or Russia.
Trump is an Anglo-Saxon and is quite possibly the most cucked person imaginable. It just goes to show you that meds are more likely to protect the european race than pale anglos.
Bentley Wilson
>expel migrants and strip them of Italian citizenship. Who will make all the cheese and pasta and put together the parts for the Ferraris?
Dominic Reyes
Actually Israel does not. (((They))) made agreements with random african shitholes who will take the nig nogs in exchange of money, no matter where the deported nigger originally came from. I say, let's do like the jews do.
No they didn't. They threatened to do it, so th IOM said they'd work on more ''humane deportations''.
Though yeah, Italy should do the same
Because Fico remains a primary M5S figure so they had to give him a role. If they had given him a role in the govt, he'd vote against this kind of measures. As President of the Chamber he has to be neutral
Blake Myers
I hope not We are starting to do it over here because roaches are traitors
Is central Europe all out of fucks you give between Austria and the V4? Are they further along than Italy or what?
Nicholas Baker
Not sure if the "removing italian citizenship" is gonna fly
Carson Harris
Best way would be to stop all foreign aid from all European countries and hold an auction on which Africans country does it the cheapest. One country would take them all and we would even save money.
Zachary White
I like your plan but I will also ask this: How much aid is being sent to the same African countries that have refugees coming up to Europe? I somehow doubt that this aide is anymore than payments to keep an even larger number of "refugees" from migrating up. It could very well be a huge extortion deal. For how many decades has the western world been aiding Africa? Has there ever been an improvement that was lasting? I think the only thing that will stop them is a southern/eastern Europe military.
Jayden Collins
Yes, foreign aid is largely worthless as the problems are genetically and culturally homemade. But you bring up an interesting perspective, that it is a extortion racket. But given that they have started to flood the continent anyway, the deal should be off. Further, I doubt that western politicians with the exception of Berlusconi /Gaddafi have ever done this on purpose. I would highly doubt that this was ever really effective. However as Europeans can be more readily swayed to accept a deportation than a shooting, we need an area takes on these people. And if we are not willing to force them, we need to bribe them. (Hat too to Austria's FPÖ defense expert on a military operation in this regard) I would further assume that this is also much more a preventative mission.once it is established that anyone arriving on European shores is deported swiftly, immigration swarms should stop. As we see in Australia's border regime.
Grayson Bennett
But if they would swarm on masse, then yes you need a military response. That's what an army is for right? To defend your borders.
Ayden Reyes
The decree is already approved, now it just needs the signature of the president of the Republic i.e Mattarella and if he doesn't sign it, I'm pretty sure Italians will move even further to the right.
Luis Hughes
This decree WILL pass, every other politician will be playing football better than Ronaldo and eating pizza and singing o’ sole mio while the votation are due to start
This won't do shit since the boat are still coming and people will always want a better life, why the hell do people here don't that through their skull Overexposure of criminal element makes you think wrong
Luis Carter
It might take several country's militaries if its a big wave. At that point though-- or I should ask, at what point is it to be recognized as an invasion? Force them or bribe them. I would not be shocked that this is already happening to let migrants in right now. Rational people with good interests would be aware that when so many people come in at once there is little hope of integration. Plus, they don't have the same education and skill sets as the lowest born native. In my mind, nothing else make sense. Now all of Europe must be bribed and threatened to do whats good for its people? Its this or country by country extreme leaders are voted in with hard line national agendas. I just don't know what will come first. In a way, it depends on how successful negotiations with Africa/Syria ect. countries go. If they escalate immigration or choose not to cooperate, Europe may escalate its responses accordingly. Would you agree?
Adrian Bennett
Not if they are held back by force.
Julian Morris
>eating pizza and singing o’ sole mio while the votation are due to start How I imagine it.
In general, I follow your line of argumentation. I am not sure if the process of radicalization and establishment of nationalist ethic but european defensive measures will go fast enough for the amount of people and demographic pressure we see. However, Europe could and should answer militarily if the migratory threat increases. And I am optimistic that they could withstand it easily. If we would finally band together to protect the European continent we would stop migration in a day. And not even all of Africa together could do anything against the combined military of Europe. (In the case the situation progresses so far, I would expect that the weakening of the European defense orgs would stop)
Ryder Turner
Italy is now a based country. Well done, Italians, you have cucked the jew.
Easton Smith
>but european defensive measures will go fast enough for the amount of people and demographic pressure we see. So you DO think that there has been enough migration throughout for most if not all European countries to be on board with addressing the topic? We have to speculate because, of course, the media would never touch is issue. Thus painting a broad picture of everyone's opinions tricky.
Daniel Nguyen
No. The general public has noted the problem, is opposed to migration mostly due to their innate racism and due to the negative effects but it's so far able to focus on their lives by isolating themselves. And most will continue that way. They would not really care if either Mao, Hitler nor Mohammed is the new prime minister, as long as they can isolate themselves for the most part. Think Brazil and South Africa.
Matthew Flores
I meant "nationalist ethic but european defensive measures" as one word, not that I address the part after the "but" separately.
Ethan Jenkins
Funny how this "deputy" appears and acts like your prime minister. Di Maio and that random professor have almost completely vanished.
Sebastian Lewis
>They would not really care if either Mao, Hitler nor Mohammed is the new prime minister, as long as they can isolate themselves What drives them to be so removed from the situation? Has Europe always been this way? Surely if they had an infection they wouldn't wait for a limb to fall off before getting it check by a doctor..
Daniel Reed
I need to sleep. Best wishes across the pond.
Chase Wilson
sleep tight buddy.
Michael Brooks
>muritard ask what went wrong with europe after WWII..... serious?
Nah nobody here likes turks voting for erdogan. The former NATSOC party FPÖ took the 70+% of turks voting for erdogan in Austria as an excuse to strip a shit load of turkish citiztenships.
John Cruz
Why are you bitching so hard? Everything Salvini did so far was fucking based
> muh Calabria He looks white af. Now shut up
Owen Diaz
Woah! I though someone here mentioned that but I wasn't exactly sure what they meant. So they had Duel citizenship then and were casting votes to Erdogan to win in Turkey?
Jayden Rodriguez
a...a...a...political thread that is not...bait WITH A FUCKING ARCHIVE AND ALL!!!!!!
Conte is still veyr highly praised by everyone and so is di Maio, you just hear less about him because he's less controversial and less Jow Forums related.
Di Maio lately said that his ''UBI'' (it's not a ubi.) will only be available for italians and not for foreigners, evne if they're here legally.
Nolan Gonzalez
I'm trying to class the place up but its not easy, you know? I could have got so many more (you)s but I didn't wanna post thots.
Nathaniel Baker
Trips of truth. God, I would pay with actual hard earned money to punch his faggot face.
Yeah they voted at the turkish embassy wich is legal for a child of an Austrian/Turkish mix to have both citizenships (wich hardly exists and is less than 1% of turks) We have a ceremonial part of beeing granted the citizenship that forces you to give up your old citizenship and revoke your loyality to your former country The leftists never really took it seriouly but the far right people in our gov interpreted that a lot of these turkish voters were acting agaist the law and now that they are in the gov they have started to strip away citizenships from roaches
Jack Taylor
Europe is infected by liberalism and the patients zero are the UK and France, there is 250 years of humanist/universalist tradition that will forbid any ethnical awakening, people don't have the guts nor the strengths to reverse a moral system like that.
I'm seeing the process of colonization advancing a bit everyday, young french normies are either guilt-tripped lefties or already subjuguated by african culture (they worship black rappers/footballers, listen to their music, follow them on social medias, adopt their clothings, expressions, etc...).
Of course there are the ones that are disgusted/revolted by this inside but I would say 99% of them are passive/prefer to look the other way. The remaining 1% entering in dissidence are doing it with a huge risk of suffering from ostracism or even legal actions, I don't even talk about the psychological toll of being constantly demonized by the rest of society (which tends to radicalize them even more and push them from positive values to real concentrated hatred).
>And I am optimistic that they could withstand it easily. If we would finally band together to protect the European continent we would stop migration in a day.
You just need the french navy to sink 3 boats and they will stop crossing the sea, they are nothing more than beggars at the end of the day, it's not the africans who are actively destroying Europe, it's the europeans, the first ones are merely profiting from the situation.
That said I'm not completely blackpilled, Germany got its current morality forced upon by the outside but the "Blut und Boden" is never too far and the slavic countries are clearly against the whole concept of civic nationalism and immigration but for this to matters the US, France and UK will have to decline significiantly in the coming decades OR have a violent ideological shift of the scale of the one that happened between the Glorious and the French Revolution.
