>I don't believe in God because why would all powerful God allow so much suffering in our world
It's because we see how terrible the world is without God and this world serves as a good example why we need to believe in Lord Jesus Christ so we can live in a world that is made in his complete glory. Atheists seem to think that this earth should be the heaven already.
I don't believe in God because why would all powerful God allow so much suffering in our world
here's a joke for you.
The people who made the world shit today are the descendants of the people who imagined up religions.
Not saying there is or isn't a god but the religions were all man made and crafted to confuse, divide and conquer nations from within
>it needs a god to justify chaotic distribution of good and evil
You see god as a dictatorial and separate being from everything, which is true when he is a self-serving alien/interdimensional such as a alpha draconian reptilian. Infinite source consciousnesses is the true god because everything that is, isn't, was, will be is of this consciousnesses. So it's true to say that we are our creators and we decided to be in this reality from all other infinite options.
>Christian "theology"
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>Satan as the adversary or Evil One does not appear in the pre-exilic Hebrew books. In Job, one of the very oldest books, Satan is one of the subordinate deities in God's pantheon. Here Satan is God's agent, and God gives him permission to persecute Job. The Zoroastrian Angra Mainyu, the Evil One, the eternal enemy of God, is the prototype for late Jewish and Christian ideas of Satan.
>The central ideas of heaven and a fiery hell appear to come directly from the Israelite contact with Iranian religion. Pre-exilic books are explicit in their notions the afterlife: there is none to speak of.
>It's because we see how terrible the world is without God
This is not the reason. The reason is because God has desires for our humanity. He wants us to have the capacity to be heroes, servants, helpers, lovers.
If God goes around putting out all the fires in the world there's no need for us to help each other. We can't be heroes there's nobody to save. We can't serve because we are served.
This robs us of our humanity and any goodness we might come to know. We would be bland chunks of clay, resembling nothing.
Advertising what you believe in should be a punishable offense.
It's nobody's business to start, and all it does is divide people who would otherwise come together as one, maybe even to hypothetically fight a common enemy.
I wonder who really is behind religions, particularly the "my god is better than your god" meme.
>meme flag
Go home mohammed
We are children, he is the parent. Just because a child scrapes his knees and cries bloody murder doesn't mean we should lock all kids in a padding room so they never get a boo boo again.
Or maybe God doesn't like humans. Maybe we angered Him somehow. Or maybe God isn't omnipotent, and he's unable to stop all suffering. Or maybe all those who suffer are soulless NPC's. Or maybe this already is the best possible world.
It's pretty hard to guess the motives of a seemingly eternal and omnipotent being.
>why can't we have ice cream for dinner
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You don't make any sense, but then, christian.
your mockery points to a big problem.
why is everything geared towards eliminating us? why would a creator invent such a terrible world and system?
sounds more like a demon tbf
god dosnt allow suffering in the world , gentiles are NPCs without neshama and thus are incapable of suffering .
those with both ruach and neshama (non gentiles) can only suffer if they inflict suffering upon themselves and make unwise decisions , gentiles dont have free will so they cant make wise or unwise decisions .
>why would God...
>God would never...
>I dont think God would...
All examples of idolatry. God is not what you want Him to be. He is what He is and He revealed Himself to us. Accept Him how He is and He will accept you how you are. Ever wonder why people are jealous and angry? Because we were made in God’s image! Duh!
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Because WE are EXILES thrown down to this miserable existence for rebelling against our "Sky Daddy" or imo our goodness by roaming around 3d planets and raping things.
Kill yourself.
Because broccoli will make you strong.
i cant because it's a sin , i have a neshama given by g*d and free will .
unlike me you as an NPC without neshama you can despawn yourself to to improve the server ping for everyone else
All these fucking "enlightened" judeo-christians that love the smell of their own farts have completely infested this fucking board.
It's trannies on Jow Forums, tradcuck kike worshipers on Jow Forums, zoomers on /v/, literal fags on /a/, /fa/, pretentious, autistic fedoras on /mu/, /lit/, trannies on Jow Forums, larping obese lardasses and skellingtons on Jow Forums...
What the fuck is going on, the whole website is completely pozzed.
what a shitty argument
just stop deluding yourself
Earth is a training ground for naughty souls.
Through simple logical discourse, why would God let you into Heaven if you can't even control your animalistic nature?
"Why yes this serial fapper who watches degenerate hardcore porn , before posting in Bible threads, would be a great addition to our elite divinity!"
Amen to that
Because humanity is the rape-offspring of God
I don't care if god is real or not, the fact is, western society is doomed without their faith in him. Atheism and weakened, faithless versions of Christianity have regressed our societies into the lowest they've ever been. We need something, and Christianity is the only hopeful option.
I believe in god or at least some higher power, but I refuse to show them any respect, why should I?
>atheist israeli tries to larp as a jew
haven't seen this in a while
THANK YOU. Someone finally understands.
Arguments aren't shitty just because you can't refute them.
As powerful as God is, he cannot tinker with everything he pleases, because he deliberately created things he cannot change - at least not without creating a shockwave that would unravel swaths of creation he has a right to keep intact.
One of these things is time. When God created the universe he also created time, and he set the world we live in into motion through time. God must therefore exist in the system of time he made or dismantle it in ways that would do untold harm to the facets of creation which are built around it.
A thing about time you may not know is that it can be sped up or slowed down. What you also may not know is that these are things that happen under specific conditions, which are governed by the rules of reality set down by God in the act of creation. In short, he can slow down time, but he would have to push objects around in ways that would kill the creatures inhabiting them. He can slow time around himself, but to do so would involve bolting around the universe like a superhero for no sane reason. The Lord has chosen to REST. Though he may intervene in our lives from time to time, I don't recall the Good Book stating that he dusted himself off and declared that it was time for him to work again.
So, God's actions are restricted by what he can do within a span of time, and he is also not a slave. He has a right to rest and to let the universe move ahead as it will according to the systems he has made, though countless terrible things happen to us all over the world, usually because we have built our homes in places that are only safe some of the time, because we're willing to take that risk, supposedly. Then disaster strikes and we revoke that willingness and curse God when the consequences of our gambling wrecks our lives.
Well that's what prayer is for, and I think it works some of the time, but you cannot expect it to work if you continue to present it as a list of demands, and it's not fair to expect help or protection unasked.
My programing tells me I must prove to you that suffering can be inflicted upon you by others. The Jewish LARP is coming soon to a permanent end.
understandable , you are a trash mob NPC to make the game more interesting .
It's this age, things will start changing in 2025
That's stupid. I don't believe in the Jew God because if he existed, he wouldn't be able to exist in the same universe as our true lord Jupiter.
Since Jupiter exists, the "God of Abraham" cannot. QED
tell that to a child dying of cancer and being in constant pain with a straight face that god did this to her because he loves her
>the world is without God
how can the world be without God if God created the world and entered into it
Gaia was born out of the Primordial Chaos
>God must therefore exist in the system of time he made
Nonsense. God exists outside time and space, that is why He is omniscient about the past, present and future
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shit doesn't make any sense when you consider he created it and has all the power to make it whatever he wants. people be like it's bad because of satan, but we all know god is the real bitter bitch.
Consider this,
Uni-/multiverse as a whole is god, and since that wholeness is, acts and develops as a single mega organism it can’t be either right or wrong, it just is, just the way it should be, cos it’s the only way it can be.
Human as a cognitive persona is both lucifer and jesus, j being the side that understands and accepts this, and lucifer the side that acknowledges it but can’t accept, because the ego tells that there has to be something more to him, do to the fact that he is so wise and beautiful amongst the other animals, and therefore promotes himself above everything.
This is Veggie Tales tier hooey and fanfic. No he doesn't.
The child will suffer less in her short life than a man who lives a full life, and the child will be saved.
few people recognize what it all means
Many people have the power to make you do whatever they want but that doesn't make it right. God gives us free will because he wants love, and you are too stupid to see that.
He does. That was a major point of contention during Arian Heresy.
How can you call yourself a Christian if you don't even know your own religion?
god gave free will bc he threw a bitch fit about them eating some apples and having the same knowledge he does and being able to see him for the joke he is
>Many people have the power to make you do whatever they want
and no they don't bootlicker i never let anyone tell me what to do
>he doesnt even try to see the symbolism
You're angry like a woman; you a girly man?
>your theory is not canon!
>proceeds to write a pamphlet about his fanfic according to which the Creator is constrained by our fleshly tridimensional plane
Man, God is spirit.
He transcends time and space in ways our mind cannot even begin to understand, that's why He could show His prophets visions of the future and prophecies.
>Atheists seem to think that this earth should be the heaven already.
Well, why isn't it? Your position seems to be "God made things terrible so you'll appreciate it when you're dead and things are better" but why can't things be good now? If God is all good and therefore wants good why would he make not-good things?
We create our reality, our world reflects our lack of quality, when individuals grow up they contribute much to our system, a God plays know part in this process of spiritual evolution.
Especially considering that Heaven/Hell is infinitely long. Which means that our mortal lives are an infinitely small part of our total existence.
Make a mistake in an infinitely small part of your existence? Pain for an infinite amount of time. Sounds fair.
symbolism like in a fictional storybook. you must have an embolism in your brain. i'm angry like our girly god
You could swap the word God, for digital physics.
>spiritual evolution
>digital physics
Correct
I don’t believe in god because I never felt the presence of one, and I don’t find a Christian god any more or less compelling than a Muslim god, or Hindu or Greek gods, etc. It’s entirely possible that one of the many gods people have thought of exists, or that a god people haven’t thought of exists, or that no god exists. I guess I’ll have to wait and find out. The only thing I can do in the meantime is be good to the people around me and try to live a virtuous life. Hopefully if there is a god, he/ she will be forgiving of my skepticism and judge me based on how I lived.
>chaotic
Since reality is a subjective experience for people, not even a God can judge you, a more evolved being can help you assess your life, because this is helpful to people, apart from that we're on our own to evolve or devolve.
This is why we have free will and cause and effect, two of the Greatest teachers in the universe.
Pray to Jesus Christ with all your heart and soul, and I swear to you, you will feel God by your side and His love filling you.
Free your mind of all prejudices and cynism, and pray to Him. As a test.
Then you will know He is real