>Police said John Miller went outside on that day to throw away trash, and he was armed when doing so. He then got into a dispute with Howard. Miller’s son then went into the house and grabbed a shotgun.
The fatass of a son didnt need to grab his shotgun. daddy had it covered with his pistol. you dont need a big gun to knock down a big guy like orange...a bullet will penetrate anyone's skull no matter their size and weight. Also by bringing out his shotgun after...he escalated the altercation....self defense out the fucking window.
The people on this site are either disturbed or just like reading and writing about insane theories. None of this should be read as being truthful or honest. It's mostly fiction.
Luke Miller
Basiclly Orange guy tossed an old matress in the community dumpster...which is not per the waste management code. so the millars head out take the matress out of the dumpster and toss it back on orange's lawn...this is what pissed him off...orange take the matress back..intending to toss it back in the dumpster...were John Miller is waiting with his pistol..with his son as well. they have an altercation...son heads back in to grab a shotgun and comes back out...video resumes here.
Asher Adams
If they murdered him that implies premeditation, if it was premeditated why did they wait to be physically attacked? How could they have a criminal intent when they themselves warned the other party that the police will be seeing the recording? If they owned the dumpster they're full board innocent. If not it's manslaughter at worst but I would still jury innocent myself.
Ayden Thomas
Shut the fuck up hillybilly supporter.
Brayden Cooper
The dumpster was a community dumpster. the alleyway was a public place.
The Millers wanted that mattress for themselves, because it was nicer than their own mattress. Aaron asked for $50 for it and they refused saying it was just trash, so he tossed it in the dumpster so they couldn't have it, but they kept stealing it back.
You forgot the part where orange guy took the bat with him when he went back out to throw the mattress again, and that he's had a long history of hostility over the smallest offense made against him.
Nolan Bailey
Miller Lite will be fucking all the white trash whores within 20 miles once he's out of jail
I think in this case, bringing out a gun was a sign of provocation.
Josiah Rogers
>once he's out of jail
Cooper Moore
Way to leave out the context of the violent drug dealers past. Maybe you didn't know or maybe you are just a dumbass.
Gabriel Gomez
and you ignore the part were the son went back into the miller house to grab his shotgun.therefore escalating the situation...sorry but your self defense bullshit is out the window now. its murder 1 for them.
Carson Morris
he wasnt a drug dealer dumbass. he had mental issues..serious ones. get your facts right and stop pushing your bullshit agenda. you fucking kike.
Jason Harris
Tbh I would feel pretty good about having fat redneck white trash defending public space against aggressive drug dealers.
Jason Walker
I didn't ignore anything, just pointed out the facts you failed to convey in your previous post. Please point out where in my post made you believe I was ignoring something you posted.
Angel Hernandez
>the son went back into the miller house to grab his shotgun What if Orange Gorilla had grabbed Pa Millers gun and started shooting? He was the back up plan
Noah Diaz
Does fucking matter what you think redneck. point is by bringing in another weapon the son escalated the fight. by texas law it is no longer self defense..sense he is now the aggressor in the situation. again pa miller just needed to pop orange in the head..
Landon King
You realize that this idea that we like all white people is a strawman right? I mean, Hitler send all the invalids to camps with the Jews. A proportion of white people are scum, it's just less of a proportion compared to most other races, and they can be dealt with.
Tbh i wouldnt feel good about fat rednecks who will shoot someone at the drop of a dime. the job of anyone handling a weapon in a self defense situation is never to go for the kill....killing someone should be the very last resort you take.
Landon Peterson
Not up to hysterical faggots like you to decide, jury will find them not guilty
Mason Long
Literal GTA character
Samuel Parker
and the jury will find them guilt of first degree murder. because they instigated everything. the millers fucking started it by fucking with oranges matress and tossing it in his yard like a couple of wannabe badasses.
Levi Martin
he had tossed the mattress into their dumpster, they were gonna get fined for illegal dumping, so they fished it out and gave it back. what would you do? just allow the big guy to walk all over you?
Ethan Hall
Mentally Orange Chad did threaten to kill them both numerous times. I guess you sped over the parts where he threatened them to the point you just wanted to see someone get their brains splattered. Then to make the judgement call.
James King
>....self defense out the fucking window. This is Texas, I wouldn't be so quick to rule out self defense.
Jace Martin
Dumpster was the community dumpster. not the milllers your retard...does everyone not know that part of the story? that the dumpster didnt even belong to the millers? good god you fools love cherry picking shit to fit your agenda.
Jack Rodriguez
> self defense out the fucking window. Apparently not, you shinny dildo. Orange faggot chucked the bat and old fatty and copped 2 in the chest and blast to the head for his troubles.
Caleb Brown
Can use their prison numbers so we can get them boys some commissary and letters of support??
He never pointed the shotty at the big guy and never made threats to use it offensively. Big guy made death threats then got the bat. S E L F D E F E N S E
Grayson Foster
Why are there so many threads but no links to videos
John Howard
It doesn’t matter who’s dumpster it was you dumb cunt. Did Miller have the legal right to be there? If so, then he didn’t have to leave. He shot that kike in the chest, after the Jew threw the bat at his head.
Aaron Miller
Learn the law faggot. son brought his shotgun out and escalated the situation further. sorry self defense out.
Leo Watson
>shirts Why do koreans have to fuck everything up always?
No he did not have the legal right to be there witha gun in his hand when orange came to toss the mattress back. face it the millers were just as stupid as orange.
Evan Morales
This wasn't self defense. Those two hick faggots instigated the altercation. They were the first to bear weapons and the first to make death threats. If anything, orange was the one who was engaged in self defense here. I hope those two faggots get gang raped every week in jail by a pack of niggers with an assortment of lethal STDs.
Jose Cox
>bringing another gun escalated So yelling out multiple death threats to both men and bringing a blunt object that is a deadly weapon, is not escalating the situation?
the incident started when the millers tossed the mattress back on oranges yard. i dont give a fuck about waste management law needing to be enforced..the dumpster was public...they would not have been fined anything if the mattress had been left in the dumpster. Millers thought they could be trash police and they ended up pissing off someone they knew was dangerous and killing the man in front of his wife..his kids...and his brother.
Nathaniel Barnes
the son brought the gun first...he escolated the incident first...there for orange got a bat to defend himself..however stupid it was to get a bat for a gun fight...by law orange is now defending himself and is within in his right.
Evan Brown
>stating your doubts is a death threat Are you faggits retarded?
he should've defended himself by going the fuck home
Adam Rivera
>orange is defending himself He would've only been defending himself had ge retreated. Same goes for the burgerbros, they were supposed to retreat, however, at the point in time where orange chose to advance on the two of them after he threatened to kill them, he had become the aggressor
There is a part of the head that is harder than any bone of the body Ive personally seen a bullet ricochet from that point and the victim live. His miscalculation is that a shotgun blast is different from a bullet
Nolan Barnes
Orange guy shouldn't have threatened to kill them multiple times. There's no evidence the Miller's made any death threats, they were legally allowed to carry their guns out in public
Kevin Robinson
No proof he advanced
Jaxson Sanders
U DONT NEED TO PULL OUT A GUN OVER A DICUSSION ON TRASH.
Dylan Peterson
This. Also, they at no time pointed the weapons at orange before orange advanced on them
Leo Gomez
>defends degenerate meth smoking hot head >calls others kikes wew
Dylan Gomez
John millers address is in my last post on his booking sheet The alley is right next door Looks like the "communal dumpsters" are for every 2, or 4 houses
Andrew Rogers
found the anti-gun JIDF shills keep trying buddys
Gavin Lopez
>no proof he advanced >gets shot in the front of the face >wasn't advancing i mean what would a stupid fucking chink know about texas self defense law anyway, don't you have some boomer properties to buy chong
>no proof orange advanced Swinging a bat extends your position in the general direction of the intended target by the length of the bat. Prove me wrong, faggit
Hunter Peterson
Sorry I asked pastabro.
Jace Hall
I don't see what the problem is here usually don't fuck with someone that has a gun especially don't say you're going to kill the person with the gun they seemed calm and defended themselves why bring a bat to a gun fight that guy was asking to get BTFO
You moron the millers started it when they went out of there way to take oranges mattress out od the dumpster and dump it on his property..what part of that dont you understand? THEY STARTED IT!!
Jayden Lewis
The three people had a history of 'not liking each other' is what I've been led to believe. If that's the case, the people possessing guns were trying to protect themselves 'just in case'. And whether you like it or not, you CAN do that. OPEN CARRY means, people carry guns openly, that shouldn't escalate anything. The other with the mattress 'problem' escalated it by bringing a bat, trying to stuff the mattress back into the dumpster when he could have said, "never mind, I'll take it to the dump? being met with resistance. That's what happened. I say they do a little time....but maybe none. The mattress guy 'openly threatened to kill them'...so there's that. Unfortunately.
Lincoln Reed
Don't want ban for doxxing, it couldn't be easier to find from what I told you. And what does pasta have to do with it?
Orange clearly advanced on the burgerbros with a deadly weapon and the intent to carry out his threat to kill said burgerbros
Luis Flores
he wasnt a methhead..please show me the source of this rumor that he was a methhead?
Nicholas Baker
> look at me call everyone who disagrees with us real muricans jew shills.
shut the fuck up you low iq faggot.
Nathaniel Stewart
fuck off you double digit IQ cum guzzling shrimp dick chink loving boomer poofta cunt go fucking kill yourself you shit for brains donkey raping shit eater
>doxxing An arial map of a public alley is not against US or 4chin law. Your flag has pasta stains, I was just point it out
Adam Hughes
Then why didn't Aaron call the police when that happened?
Isaiah Cruz
No legal right to be there with a gun you say? > in Texas > Open carry without permit > The dad was calm > wasn’t brandishing. > The son had the shotgun shouldered. > The lane was communal > expectation the Millers would use lane > The Jew and the Millers had argued often > so it was reasonable that dad had his gun. > It was also reasonable for the son to retrieve the weapon he had forgotten to bring > the dad is 67 and maybe not too quick > Kike attacks > Atempts to kill the dad with bat to the head > Jew receives double tap to the chest from old timer > son brings shotgun to bare > delivers righteous blow to the head of the Jew before the faggot hits the ground > Dead kike > filming retard woman screams disbelief (deserves thanks for posting the video though)
so you're blaming the rednecks for wanting to look after the environment? I'd be pretty pissed too if some orange shirt douche is an aggressive ass that hates everyone
Luis Roberts
>according to dipshit it is ok to make threats of death to someone >it is also ok to make efforts to advance those threats at a passive party
Nah m8 this is why you need to go the fuck back to california where you belong.
Elijah Phillips
Because he felt taking the law into his own hands by threatening to kill them and then producing a blunt object to carry out his threats was a more logical approach
Orange was just throwing away a mattress...it was originally in the dumpster itself before the video happened you idiot.
Chase Gray
Someone posted the guys record, super violent and exactly what you would expect. He also threatened to kill a post office man for simply delivering the mail. Made up some story about how he was going to rape his kid. Post office guy was like wtf ? Dudes house as promptly raided by police.
I can’t imagine the hellish life his kids had, he was a troubled man, possibly had a good heart but man, he made some really bad decisions.
Levi Morris
Stop cherry picking dumbass and read what i stated. THE MILLERS STARTED IT BY TOSSING THE MATRESS WHICH WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE DUMPSTER BACK ONTO ORANGES LAWN!!!!
Jason Long
>filming retard woman screams in disbelief Top kek, I wonder how she thought the encounter would play out in her mind
If there was a history of agitating each other, it is possible to say that ' he feared for his life' in that during the conversation, he repeatedly kept saying 'I'm going to kill you'....we all heard that. mattress/bat guy should have called it and left.
I not only watched it..i also read articles that spoke about what had taken place before. like o h i dont know..the millers dumping the mattress on oranges yard first.
Logan Harris
All orange shirt had to do was walk away. People will cluck their tongues but they didn't legitimately break any laws besides maybe open carry or something technical.
Oliver Cruz
Assault charge after assault charge, combine that with his death threats and rage in the video and it's clear the Millers were the ones taking out the trash that day.
Joseph Campbell
>rick and karolyns Burgers and fries This is excellent
Hudson Hill
>But big meanie guy started it! :((((( >Its ok to threaten someone with dead and advance those threats Try again.