As a poor person, why shouldn't I vote democrat? Republicans and the right wing just want to help the rich get richer and cut welfare, fuck that man. Democrats want to help create jobs and make health care/college free. Why would I say no to that on a $30k a year salary? Fuck the GOP. I'm voting Democrat, why should I not? Money matters more than race.
I gotta say I'm really feeling the Bern in 2020. Free healthcare and college, fair wages, legal weed, and fighting the 1%? Sign me up. Bernie actually cares about the people.
I'll bite. Because taxation in and of itself is theft by the government from the taxpayer, and anyone with half a brain should realize that theft is bad even if you're giving it to some useless bean/nig who doesn't make enough money working part time at McD's to support his 4 children out of wedlock and drug addiction. Also, it's the rich people who pay for poor people's wages. Your job is financed by people with more money than you (usually atleast) and they obtained that money not by stealing it, but by providing people with something they felt was worth spending money on. Therefore, if you give the rich more of their money back they can then invest that money into growing their business, creating jobs, and raising wages for people that work hard and make them money. Which makes them more money, so they can expand more, etc etc. Taking money from the rich stagnates the economy and removes the incentive to take risks and grow your business. If the government is going to take 90-100% of the next dollar you make, why bother making it? And on the healthcare and education issues, they're only so expensive because the government is involved. With healthcare, Obamacare and other government regulations have skyrocketed the prices, along with people using their insurance for everything. You don't have car insurance for getting your oil changed, only for when you get in an accident or something, so why do you use insurance on basic doctor checkups and other non-catastrophic visits? Makes no sense. With education it's only so expensive because the government provides loans to anyone and everyone that are guaranteed, if you remove those the people lending the money will look at what you're going to college for and make a risk assessment on how likely you are to pay it back.
TLDR: Bernie is an idiot and you should really know what you're talking about before you vote.
you will reap no rewards for doing so. you will just be giving nigs and spics more of your already small income. all those programs your money will create will be of no benefit to you...you wouldnt have access to their benefits even if you were dying assuming you are a single white man.
Dylan Morales
>Republicans and the right wing just want to help the rich get richer
Meanwhile unemployment is historically low in America and the economy is doing great...
David Allen
Nah progressives sold their souls to the devil and hitched their wagon to the neolib star. They are now fiscally conservative and socially liberal, the most fucked up and decadent sociopolitical animal of them all.
As long as you destroy marriage and the very notion of what it means to be a man or a woman, I will never vote progressive.
Carter Thomas
>Democrats are for big gubment. >big gubment likes regulation, control, and useless programs
>DEMONRATS liek trabajo
Choose 1
Jaxon Gray
Exactly.
Carson Rogers
Fuck Bernie and any cocksucker dumb enough to vote for him.
They have gone to a truly terrifying place in deep left space. Seriously, they all say people like me will either be harmed or imprisoned when the pendulum swings back. Leftist are insane.
Hudson Gutierrez
SOWSHALLYSYM -bernie
Benjamin Adams
Because those things won't actually be free, you will pay for them in other ways. Free Health care? Have fun with substandard medical care/ medical supplies. Without capitalism there would be no point for a medical company to try and create superior products. Free college? Yeah, how's public school working out? Legal Weed, have fun with government mandated additives to weed. Fair wages? Like with medical supplies have fun with sub standard service as there will be no reason for people to work harder when pay incentives are taken away.
tl;dr there's no such thing as a free lunch
also nice bait
Nathan Flores
why are you such a selfish little prick you dumb bitch? ME ME ME WHAT ABOUT FREE SHIT I WANT GIVE ME GIVE ME GIVE
go fuck yourself
Jack Roberts
>As a white person, why should I vote to end slavery and vote against my own self interest? >Oh what's that? Equality only when it fits your argument? Why aren't you for fair and EQUAL taxation?
Leo Williams
>free xyz Nothing's free you child
Democrats want to give your job to pedro on his way up from panama. They also want to give pedro some cash they stole from your paycheck. Democrats are thieves and hypocrites. Democrats are the true fear mongerers, and they use the media to brainwash anyone who watches too much tv/movies. Voting for the democrats makes you a puppet for people who want to destroy America
>rich get richer You have been brainwashed by your tv. The republicans are better for the economy, which creates more jobs, and makes us a better country. Case in point: TRUMPS DEREGULATED & BOOMING ECONOMY
hey OP, turn off your TV
Eli Walker
As a Left wing person, I'd say that both Republican and Democrats are rotten equally.
Bernie Sanders is too complacent and weak, while he did some good, he utterly failed to do something against the corporate democrats.
Time for voting in America has passed long ago, you cannot bring change by means of legal and established politics - and America will, most likely, cling to failed system for a very long time. Good thing I'm not American.
Tyler Ramirez
>Democrats want to help create jobs and make health care/college free.
You couldn’t if you wanted to because you’re a leaf.
>1 post by this nigger
Kayden Campbell
>Money matters more than race. I understand OP but you do know mass migration into the states will have a massive blow back to the economy and the middle class minimum wages right?? Why hire you when I can get me some Mexicans
He means the non-establishment socialist dems that want Medicare for all like Cortez
Parker Clark
god i cant believe how many boomers are in this thread
Jackson Thomas
Well I am in my 60's kid. I'm more knowledgeable than you! I read more
Ayden Lewis
>Trump is 72 >Sanders is 77
Both men can practically die any second due to natural causes (like heart running out of enough of properly working cells).
2020 is just 1,5 years away but Sanders will be a much weaker and slower person then.
Fuck I've seen 72 year old people hat were basically already non functioning... slow, confused, weak.
Lucas Evans
You're retarded. This worshipping of Bernie Sanders reminds of a cult.
Listen up. Bernie Sanders is the kind of guy who praised Venezuela. And look at where Venezuela is now!
Then he praised the Scandinavian welfare states. And I get that. I'm Danish. Lots of positive things about the Scandinavian welfare state.
However, what Bernie Sanders doesn't acknowledge or recognize is that the Scandinavian welfare states are possible because of our homogeneous population and culture. You cannot have an extremely diverse, multicultural country like the US, with wide open borders and mass immigration and many millions of illegal immigrants and at the same time have a Scandinavian style welfare state.
Official reports from Denmark and Norway show just that non-western immigrants are a huge economic burden and cost many billions of kroner every single year.
And across Scandinavian, the retirement age is raised and the welfare cut across the board, in part as a result of the huge economic burden of non-western immigrants.
Bernie Sanders happily sell you a dream and some lofty goals. But he isn't willing to acknowledge or recognize reality. Thus he won't be able to get you there.
All the Bernie Bro's who are serious about wanting a Scandinavian style welfare state would be the most aggressive anti-mass immigration and pro border wall activists if they were actually serious.
However, they're not. You simply can't have a generous welfare Scandinavian style welfare state and open borders and mass immigration and millions of illegals aliens.
But go ahead and vote for Bernie who will be ancient by then and won't be able to deliver.
The hype around Bernie reminds me of the hype around Obama. People are so in love with the nice message that the completely abandon any kind of critical thinking and turn into Bernie Bro sheep.
Jackson Young
Still not convinced Bernie isn't the best option for me. It is in my self interest as a white man with a history and music degree and $37k student debt studying to be a teacher to vote for Sanders.
Jordan Bennett
I don't care about immigration that much, but we should be more tolerant of other people and their struggle. Be more compassionate, and also try to educate those that do come here or already live here. Be kind, there is good in every person. We can have some control, but also be open to skilled individuals and welcoming.
Hudson King
Hey cunt bag from hell! A working paper by Dr. Mohammad Fazel Zarandi from the Yale School of Management, coauthored by two other Yale professors, estimates that there are 22.8 million illegal immigrants in the United States.
This is over double estimates compiled by the Department of Homeland Security, which claims 11.1 million illegal aliens live in the US.most of these are from the 3rd world that are more likley to he on welfare in housing programs. You dont think that's a problem?? This is a recent study BTW What has white America become?? Why can't we preserve our homogeneous community?? Saudia Arabia does it! isye.gatech.edu/news-events/events/calendar/day/7740
Talking about DemoRats, they went completely downhill after JFK, Lyndon Johnson and his shitty immigration/welfare policies turn the party to the point that a communist like Bernie Sanders is in discussion. JFK was about cutting taxes, abolishing fucking CIA, and government issuing its own money instead of fucking FED. Now they try to steal people money, globolism, sell America. Fuck.
Wyatt Jenkins
there's nothing wrong with being kind, but there's also nothing wrong with looking out for your self-interest over others. it shouldn't be our society's job to assimilate as many Mexicans as possible.
Grayson Perry
What he’s saying is the Bernie Sanders style of government can’t work in America, a nation that is 50 Times more diverse than Scandinavian nations. These countries are seeing their systems fall apart just by a change of 5 percent of their population. Bottom line if you want socialism you need to get rid of minorities
Well first of all you have the attitude of a poor person so nothing is likely to ever help you, but Republicans will help try and make it so you can afford your own lifestyle like a human being doing actual work while Democrats will turn you into a slave for voting who can be destitute, homeless or dead with a mere changing of the guard because you can't fend for yourself.
Carson Perry
>Money matters more than race. >Money matters more than race. >Money matters more than race. >Money matters more than race. >Money matters more than race. Open boarders and sanctuary cities. Democrats want this. Think about it. They're literally wanting cheap labor to infiltrate the job market. They're keeping you poor.
Luis Davis
>They're literally wanting cheap labor to infiltrate the job market. They're keeping you poor.
I tried telling him this but the peice of commie filth wouldn't reply
I love these retards that think Bernie would redistribute the wealth of the 1%. God, what simpletons. It must be rosy being that optimistic.
Henry Butler
Your attitude is the essence of the problem. If you don't understand that immigration it at the very core then you don't understand shit.
Africas population is exploding with 3 BILLION EXTRA Africans the next 80 years.
According to the UN there already are 65 mio refugees in the world to. Mass immigration already has and continue to destroy Middle Class America.
Low skilled immigration is suppressing the wages of the low and working class. And even "high skilled" mass immigration are replacing American workers. Just take the famous example with Disney forcing their it workers to train their Indian replacement before getting let go. And if they refused they wouldn't get severance pay.
The problem of poverty in the third world has to be solved at the source. It cannot be solve by letting a never ending stream of Hispanics, Indians, Arabs and Africans flood into Europe and North America. You got to get up and get real.
Camden Watson
>Money matters more than race
Then what's wrong if rich vote for Republicans?
You are voting for your welfare.They are voting for theirs.
Sounds fair to me
Brody Gomez
> Wages still flat > Price of rent, health care, goods still increasing like crazy > Majority of Americans have little or no savings > Majority still dealing with massive debt > National debt still growing like crazy because the orange dropped taxes and increased spending > One quarter we reach 4% > Average growth still well below this figure
BUT THE ECONOMY IS SO GOOD. LOOK AT ALL THE SHITTY WAGE JOBS THAT WERE CREATED. BREITSHIT SAID SO.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Gavin Gonzalez
List Bernie's solution for each of those. Convince us that he is the panacea.
Brayden Jones
Seriously. I understand people are disillusioned and find Bernie Sanders appealing.
The problems of working poor, precarious work, student debt, rising housing cost, stagnating wages, crony capitalism, 21 trillion dollars in government debt, etc are all very real.
But in all seriousness you should embrace the AltRight. Look up a guy called Eric Striker on YouTube. He used to be a commie and now he is one of the intellectual leaders of the AltRight.
You can keep your white guilt complex of wanting to be nice and let people come in. But it's this attitude which is completely destroying America and the Middle Class.
The left in the US is shit because it's full of people who refuse to acknowledge reality.
The Social Democratic icons who built the welfarestate of northern Europe manage to do so because the acknowledged reality. Not because they were a bunch of hippie grandpa types.
Just look at Occupy Wall Street. They had so much momentum,but because they refused to acknowledge reality, because they refused to organize, because they refused any formal structure or hierarchy they achieved nothing except making the 99% and 1% idea, concept go mainstream.
Nolan Cruz
>Why don't you vote for your self-interest?
But they did!
White people knew Trump was better choice for them.So they voted for him.
If black people can vote for their self interest then white people can also vote for their interest.
All those people who don't vote saying "all are corrupt" are retarded.
You Vote to prevent other team screwing you.
I will prefer my guy screwing them than their guy screwing me
Gabriel Wilson
>Then what's wrong if rich vote for Republicans? They don't. The rich people in America are all Democrats. Sports players, Musicians, Actors, Tech Company CEO, etc. >You are voting for your welfare.They are voting for theirs. He's voting for slavery, and the Democrats have tricked him, and you, into thinking that's what the Republicans want.
Camden Edwards
Better Bread.
Jaxson Lopez
This is some weak, low-effort bait.
Brandon Perry
>britbong talking about wagon burners The fuck you know about them? They're all drunks and theives.
>Go to school and get a good job Good jobs come from nepotism.
Jordan Rodriguez
Vote democrat and stay poor then faggot.
Mason Perez
>Wages still flat
Literally untrue
>Price of rent, health care, goods still increasing like crazy
Where?
>Average growth still well below this figure
Average is 3% meme-boy
>Majority of Americans have little or no savings >Majority still dealing with massive debt
Women who take out university loans for degrees in bullshit are legit not my fucking problem, they can go find some beta provider (you maybe) to pay their debt if it's such a problem
>National debt still growing like crazy because the orange dropped taxes and increased spending
You mean democrats refused to let him cut spending from their dumb bullshit
Bentley Johnson
You're a dumb faggot if you think any politician in this day and age cares about you. All the gibs in the world wont make you less of a piece of shit. Really just makes you an ever more apathetic, self loathing, insignificant, government dependent nigger.
kys.
Hunter Perez
Bernie is an Independent. He aint no Dem. That's how Hilldawgery was able to insert her penis into the game
Ethan Cruz
>Bernie is an Independent. No. He's a communist. Just like Comey and Brennan and Obama. Do some research, you dumb mutt.
Ryan Reed
Meme Flag Faggot---- He is listed as an Independent, but yes, he is commie
Owen Jones
Occupy Wall Street fizzled because it was an entirely Soros funded AstroTurf that evaporated when the checks stopped coming.
Sebastian White
Why are you going to college, it's a waist of money
Dominic Howard
Wages can’t go up until we stop importing cheap labor. Also, 30k is the salary of an 18 year old who didn’t go to college. You are a loser and you are trying to blame your failures on productive society.
Joseph Thomas
Thread analyst here, I've been over this thread and sadly there's really nothing new here. I'm pretty tired, I say it's time for all of us to get some rest. Go to sleep.
Tyler White
Sadly NPCs are happy to exchange freedom for gibs
Elijah Gutierrez
>Meme Flag Faggot Bitch, I'm in northern Greenland freezing my ass off. It's 5*F right now. Fuck off. I earned this flag.
Parker Sanders
Free? Who pays for all these freebies?
Camden Miller
>free. >rich get richer >Money matters more than race. >Free >$30k a year salary >wages
Why the obsession with money?
What really boggles my mind is that you can still find enough rubes who really think some multimillionaire kike is actually interested in giving them something for nothing.
How do people ever come to this logic. If you're poor and want to be worse off than before, vote democrat. They are not doing anything for you. They fuck up everything and trust me, things can get a lot worse.
If you want to survive on rat and cockroach sandiwiches and be evicted from your cost-controlled apartment by middle-class immigrants that can pay full price, just vote democrat like a retard.
William Ortiz
You want to elect a murderer for President?
Go ahead and try......we will be all over you this next election
If you win, I'll be looking forward to see you starce.
Owen Morris
nice image / frigid faggot
Jaxson Young
Gonna be Hillary and Biden. Time to dig on Biden, and see how the media shills for 'Women'. She fucked up by not saying she was a lesbian. She's waiting on that.
Hillary lesbian (SS parties in South America) Biden money laundering (Delaware, his kid in Ukraine, funneled through the Netherlands and Cyprus)
Daniel Rogers
>im poor >why should i vote...
dont vote my friend, or if you want to vote you gotta vote for smaller parties so that they can get in power slowly.
Voting Republicans or Democrats wont change shit they are the same coin in the end >but Bernie and Cortez different from Hillary and other democrats
They are but hear me out, they are being used by the democratic party just to make it more "populist" and more "MUH WE WUZ CLOSE TO POOR PEOPLE" its all a bunch of bullshit, Bernie and the other Social Democrats dont even know they are being used by their own democratic "comrades".
Why don't you try lifting your self up instead of bringing everyone else down? sage
Isaac Baker
>As a poor person, why shouldn't I vote democrat? because they're destroying the industry in your nation, the industry which is the only way to produce wealth and life the masses out of poverty
because they're fucking cocksuckers
John Wood
>I gotta say I'm really feeling the Bern in 2020 a jew can't win in the general, you might squeeze him onto a ticket as press secretary
>taxation == theft Countries are owned, and run, by those who own it- its citizens.
You occupying the country means you obey its rules.
Neither authoritarian nor libertarian apply to a state allowing emigration.
Dominic Cruz
Because taking all the money earned from companies, and then giving it to the poor and lazy, unproductive, unmotivated people of the world, yes, the world, tax money also goes to helping these third world shitholes try and achieve something Democrats don't want to create jobs, because when you tax these companies super high, guess what? They're gonna go to a country that doesn't tax them as high. Taking all the jobs with them Welfare is just a selfish system in which people sit around and do nothing, and expect to have all their bills paid and treat their "job" as a career. 30k a year salary is minimum wage, are you seriously only capable of getting a minimum wage job? Fun fact, shortage of 911 dispatchers is literally worldwide and it's an 80k job, and you still get to sit on your lazy, selfish greedy ass.. Unfortunately you have to think about others though.
Ryder Kelly
>muh welfare Get a job, lazy leech.
Justin Moore
This. True socialistcucks should be desperately trying to kick all nonwhites out so it could actually happen
Ayden Sullivan
Ah yes, the accelerationists choice for president. These are the guys saying let’s do a barrel roll and put the nose down(pun intended) on this country. Who knows they might be right.
Alexander Scott
Cut off your dick and sellout what few principles you have left for free shit and new chains goyim.
>Why would I say no to that on a $30k a year salary? Unless you're a single mom you won't benefit at all from dem programs. Also you should vote against the Democrats because if you're a man and you earn 30k per year the welfare state has effectively eliminated your potential to be a husband and father. It's economically more advantageous for a woman to have her kids alone and hit up the gubmint for the means to support them than it is for you to be around.
Aiden Mitchell
CHOOSING Liberty: The use of force is wrong, but we've been blaming the innocent party- recognition of intent and ability to be forced, the choice to consent is available- thus negating force.
Christopher Richardson
>30k a year salary is minimum wage Min wage is $14.5k
Colton Phillips
Neither one can fix the system. We are consuming (everything from regular commodities to education) in practices that are not healthy for our economy. Neither R’s or D’s can force the issue here on their own outside of a fully autocratic economic system. Most people up top realize this; they are just spouting bullshit to get your vote so they can work their way into more power and money. I would say that Bernie is one of the few that genuinely wants the system to change but he’s also an idiot (he’s still a greedy bastard looking to get his own mind you). BUT Democrats exacerbate the poor economic practices of our system by putting further strain on said system. The sad fact is that those at the top will not take a pay cut so long as consumers continue to consume indiscriminately; they will pass on any added cost to their wageslaves and the consumers. Increased government gibs results in increased spending and if you haven’t noticed we have already spent too much. We need to start paying down the debt, not increasing it. The best way to do this is by growing the (middle class) economy while also cutting government spending. Buy American, support local businesses, don’t consume from companies that subsidize their poor wages with gov welfare, and vote fiscally conservative representatives into office.
This being said, I’m down for more government regulation regarding our healthcare system. It will have plenty of negative side effects, but healthcare is the one thing that can’t be shopped around. It is inherently not a “free market” as it is bordering on a monopoly when businesses like Ascention Health go out and own every hospital on the block and charge life crippleing debt inducing rates for giving you two aspirin and a band aid in the ER.
Jace Gray
If poor people vote for democrats and rich people vote for Republicans, wouldn't it be in democrats interest to make people poor and keep them poor?
democrats already had their chance on healthcare. The current system is what they came up with. Democrats aren't friends of the working man, that's just how they hook you. If putting democrats in office solved the working man's woes the working man's woes would have already been solved. Instead we have the current situation: stagnant wages and outrageous costs for healthcare and education. Then there's their hatred of white men.
