I don't get it

I don't get it.
Some of you say that getting married and having kids is the way to go, while others warn not to fall for the vaginal jew.
So which one is it Jow Forums?

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>(((some of you)))
Make the baby, faggot.

Getting married is the red pill, think about it. Jews want to destroy the white nuclear family unit and want no future for white children. Marry, and have lots of little white boys

Find what's right for you. Nobody else can tell you what will make you happy. Maybe it's a family, maybe it isn't.

Just get married to a trap.

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You should get married and have kids. MGTOW is for pathetic losers. Preserving the family requires you to actually have a family.

Marry a good traditional white girl and pump out white children like there's no tomorrow. Because if you don't, there might not be.

Where do you find wife material? From what I've seen it sure as fuck isn't uni

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Oh no no no
You wont reverse psychology me, jew

lol, nuclear family is part of what sealed the deal for 'the west', extended family>nuclear family
stay bluepilled

What? It's true though. If you want to save traditionalism and the white race, you need to get off your ass and marry a white girl. Preferably also focus on self improvement: fitness, reading, skills, etc. Make many white children.
Is there a problem with that?

if woman you marry is 1488 or atleast 14 and religious then yes marry her. otherwise be very very cautious.

mgtow is just lad culture and responsible relationships when done right. It's important to know the risks of a legal contract and the social power women have.

Aussie women are absolutely selfish cunts
t. Been in a relationship for 9 years with a white Aussie women
I feel like it's killing me user....

The ones who tell young do it aren't faggots who don't know how to deal with a woman's bullshit. Not getting married and having children is a disservice to your country and your fellow man.

It's a great joy to have a loving and attentive wife, and adoring children who grow up to be mature and successful.

I hope you all experience this.

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Who tell you DON'T do it*

having kids now is beyond retarded - you're never gonna have full control over them, and they're going to become degenerates whether you want to or not, unless you just try to live in a remote location and hope the government doesn't take you out.
Getting married is retarded too, especially in the West.
But do what you want, I'm not your mom

Move out if you aren't an asshole, your culture is very distinct.

Marriage is something betas offer women to compensate for not being Chad.

The family is the basis of the race. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a jew or a shabbos goy.

>vaginal jew
Did you maybe consider marriage from the prospective of a stable relationship with the mother of your biological children and an added family member to grow old with?

The vaginal jew is thinking with your dick. The vaginal Jew is being enraptured by a trainwreck just to get your dick wet. The vaginal jew is accepting anything other than committed relationship and imminent marriage with a virgin woman.

Y'all need to find someone as sick and sad as yourselves. Foster a relationship that requires mutual dependence. It'll be rocky, but years forge the relationship, child rearing forges the relationship. And then one day you'll wake up and realize you have a loving family, or the exact opposite. If it's not loving, then you work on it until it collapses. Don't be a coward.

We should start importing women for marriage. Watch how fast leftists women take an about face on immigration when they figure out they're being replaced.

It's the bicameral motivation.
>Carrot
Make babies, "free sex"
>Stick
You're fucked the second you move past 5 years and get handed alimony, oh also, make babies

Yes just get a boyfriend so there's no risk of pregnancy and adopt a kid. If you don't like it then you can sell it later.

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Depends on you. Marriage isn't for everyone - I've never been interested, or interested in having kids, so I've been okay with a long string of long term girlfriends who i warn that I'm never getting married, and leave in tears (usually at the two year mark), when all of her friends tell her I "better man up and put a ring on her finger".
My brother is happily married with 3 kids and is happier than a pig in shit. Loves it. Loves being a dad, and a husband, and he found a good woman, and if they ever split up I'll be shocked as hell. I'm happy as hell for both of them, and love spending time with their family.

Where are you, in those terms? Are you willing to give up a big chunk of your freedom for a family? There's nothing wrong with that, if it's what you want, and you're careful who you marry - half of them fail - but half don't.
There are a lot of pros to marriage - dual income, someone to share housework with, a wife and kids will keep you on your toes work-wise, and there will be someone to greet you at the end of the day, and to spend time with, especially on holidays.

marriage is great if you can find a woman worth it. most however are neurotic and riddled with mental problems and aren't worth the risk.

If you don't have children, then your children won't exist.

No, unis neither attract nor create well-adjusted women with long-term goals in the right place (family). Some people say church, but church girls can be just as degenerate as anyone else. I have no idea where you're supposed to find a wifeable woman, but you should never stop looking. And, once you've found one you think might be good, don't let your guard down from your infatuation. That's the time to be the most vigilant.

>others warn not to fall for the vaginal jew.
I wonder who would want white men to give up...

>the best way to win the game is to give up and not play at all. don't bother trying, goyim, just give up

In reality Chad marries young since he has access to the highest quality women and the men who have the most sexual partners are degenerate druggy betas who could never be fathers.

You find them in European villagers, or through arranged marriages.

He thinks youre telling him that so then hell think “since a jew told me that im not gonna do it” thus you have used reverse psychology to assist in white genocide

>You find them in European villagers

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East Asia.

If you feel that you could never place anyone over yourself then dont get married and have kids. If you have a family just to have one, it will not be fun.

Dont be those people who are a family of strangers.

I'm having a kid in 6 months. My girlfriend is 8 years younger than me. Marriage? Maybe, the tax benefits might be worth it I dont know. I'll get her a ring but as for the marriage? I don't know if that will happen.

my sides desu

Pharmacists make good wifes. My advice to you uni goers.

is this not true? If your real desperate trade in a goat for a wife in a Albania.

Find a modest old fashioned girl who you can share your hate for niggers and mudslimes with and pump her full of white babies. You will proabbly have to lower your standards.

>lowers standards while tyrone fucks stacy on mtv and gets paid to do it

The absolute state of white men

They can be mutually exclusive, user-kun. Don't get married to the vaginal Jew. Don't let the vaginal Jew trick you into not marrying. There's a difference, and a right and good woman will show you that difference.

both, depending on redpilled or blackpilled state

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is it ok to marry if i can't have kids? my bf is white blonde hair blue eyed, is it selfish to waste his genes

I can't have kids either. Married an Asian chick. Stops em from making more.

You'll never get pregnant by only doing anal retard

Are you okay with you converting?And you wrongly believe they are trad.

I'd much rather an average looking girl who is a homemaker and hates niggers to a 10/10 insufferable, vain, "empowered", white-hating cunt advocating for minorities on social media for 5 hours a day. The first ones you marry, the second ones you pump and dump.

It;s good. Have as many wives as you can afford, desu senpai. you will be happy, and you will know what it is to truly live.

but in all honesty, it has to have a "real" drive behind it.

suggestion: just be by yourself, write down some ideas on a piece of paper about what you might want to see in a woman, and then proceed from that moment forward as to what you might want to do to get to that point.

Why not a cute traditional chinese girl there’s literally millions of them just waiting for a white cock to scoop them up from their insectoid prison world. Smaller, tighter, and they stay that way and dont show serious signs of aging until like 45. And who wants to deal with a white woman whos 45?

The northern Albanian women marry Southern Serbian villagers in exchange for dowry, no conversion takes place, Albanians are generally very liberal in regards to faith because most of the Albanian clans are multi-religious. This mostly occurs amongst older lonely men and women though.

I met a lot of young trad women in Serbian villagers.

I think we might have different definitions of trad.

Asians are fine as hell too, but if all white men ignore white women and procreate with asians they will quickly jump on Tyrone's dick and the white race would disappear, it would be a wonderful hapa world after we wipe out the niggers and mongrels in the upcoming race war.

So let them jump on tyrones dick mullattos are still more likely to vote republican than darkos

what is your definition of trad? women in Australia are generally shit, so anything that cooks and cleans as well as being Serb is pretty trad to me.

IRL I've noticed certain men treat known whores like housewives simply because they showed interest in them. Dudes who a moral compass think with their dick get FUCKED HARD in the dating and legal marriage system.

Conversely, being a life long MGTOW will most likely make you miserable in your forties and upward.

If you want to be a good man and have a family, you must learn to look at people as OBJECTIVELY as possible, lest you end up a statistic.

Well far more qualities than just being able to make food and being of a certain ethnicity.

ethnicity isn't generally important when considering if a women is trad or not, but I prefer Serbian women because I'm already generally mixed, my father is pure Serb but my mother is Hungarian-Croat-Slovak, her father being half Hungarian, half Slovak and her mother being pure Croat.

I don't know how its like in Romania but the women here, especially Anglos are shit, makes me feel sorry for the average Aussie.

They are the same here also and they are the same way in Serbia too, better go for some indian or muslim if you want trad.

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Embracing your brother is the truest redpill. Reject the Jew and turn to your fellow man for all your needs.

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Faggots get the rope too

Indians are not trad, they are very entitled and slobish, sometimes there bigger sluts than Anglos. Most muslim women are alright and very wholesome but there generally very ugly.

I've been to many villagers in Serbia, and met a couple of wholesome trad village girls, but I may just be naive. Believing that there aren't any good women in our countries is very nihilistic and unhealthy.

My uncle married a trad Serbian village women, he couldn't be happier.

Also Churches in rural areas are bound to have trad women.

Get married yes but also sign a prenup yes

You really dont know what you talk about and I will laugh my ass off when she will divorce you after she gets the Australian citizenship and made a kid with you for gibs.

suit yourself mutt boy, there's nothing to win or fight for, but whatever
you can either live a decent life for yourself and be happy, or be a cancerous kosher faggot who thinks he can outsmart centuries of jewry by marrying a roastie and having kids who are gonna grow into degenerates

I'm Serb myself, I don't plan on living in Australia all my life, your to Nihilistic bro. I'll pray for you so that you can get your dream waifu.

you don't know shit about village life in Eastern Europe/Balkans lol, but sure go ahead and play captain save-a-ho for some village bicycle. It'll be worth it if you both worship the same kike together

My dream wife doesnt exist the only way to fulfill this desire is to build it myself but I am not smart enough to make an android so most likely I will keep remain single.

your being jewy bro, problem in Balkan is that we don't have enough Children while Albanians and gypsies are fucking like rabbits. Not all women are roasties, don't be a retard.

Here's the best advice I can give you: never believe anything you're told.

Bro, I grew up in a Serbian village in Vojvodina, I'm not surprised that the faithless is Nihilistic and depressive, always so negative.

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For you, the best course of action is to become a eunuch and a monk. Absolutely.

checkd. I agree. But stop posting this woman.

Anons. It's about being in the proper environment in order to meet the right woman. You're much more likely to meet someone familial minded in a church than at uni.

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>Demoralization: The Post

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Ask yourself which one of the two options sounds like the white genocide promoting jews came up with it and which doesn't?

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Married here. Get yourself a good girl and marry her. Unless you want to be doing your laundry and dishes yourself for the rest of your miserable life.

FPBP

>Living a live alone, wageslaveing or worse neeting around without bettering the world.
>Everyday the niggering comes nearer.
>don't do anything against it.
>regrett your live as you die alone


vs.
>Raise a child
>Help your people
>have a healthy family
>enjoy luck no vidya can give you
>don't die regretting your livechoices

My daughter (recently 5yrs) will wake up in about an hour. She'll announce that she's awake and that she'd like me to pick her up. I'll carry her for a bit with her head on my shoulder. I'll ask what she'd like for breakfast and she'll respond that she's not hungry yet, and that she wants to stay where she is. After a while, I'll move to put her down and she'll attempt to keep clinging to me. I'll say that I need to use the bathroom. She'll hop down and race to the toilet before me, laughing, while I pretend that I can't wait to go.

Haha that’s cute. I’ll tell u a story. On the way to public (ya I know) school my 3 yr old points out all the rvs, big trucks which are tractor trailers, cherry pickers and busses which he says bus bus. And he notices the bright colors and tells me those

I'm getting married in a few months. I can't wait to have something like what you describe. I know that there are tough times, and that there's some crap to deal with (no pun intended), but I also know that moments like your morning make it all worth it.
Happy for you, user.

Why not just do whatever the fuck you want to do and live your life according to your values. I got with my wife at 17 because I wanted a family. Married her at 21. Got 2 kids at 28. Planning more. What the fuck else is there to do? In 20 years I get to have grandkids and do grandpa shit and piss off my son for feeding his kids junkfood. Will be great.

Hello fellow lolgionari. We all know all of you are sad incels that shitpost in here all day long. Just look how many ROMAnian f(l)ags are in here. Fliop and Chaim are the biggest ones to be quite honest.

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Both the truth is that you need a well executed prenup and to engage strong control over a potential wife (preferably a virgin) in order to not get fucked by divorce court as they can and will take 75% of your net worth and then a large chunk of your income potentially for the rest of your natural life. On the other side of the coin having a family and doing your duty to the cause and your people cannot be shirked you have to be careful, modern women are awful but white women are still technically the most loyal. Give a woman an inch I. Today’s world and she will take everything from you because she can. If she knows that she won’t get shit she will be happier and more loyal. Now go and make some white babies and teach them the way

Knock up as many women as you can if you're white.

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This I want to find a nice racist gf my brother managed to find one who hates nig nogs with a passion.

This being a good homemaker is worth like 2-3 beauty points and being 1488 is worth another 2. Id infinitely prefer a 6/10 racist homemaker than some 10/10 roastie thot who would poison my children’s minds with bullshit about tolerance and acceptance. This is the person you are entrusting to care for and educate your child through the early years looks matter very little compared to that. (Fatties need not apply though, that’s a moral failing not a physical one)

>wanting your sons to be supreme gentlemen
>wanting your daughters to be mixed up whores who do porn the second they turn 16 just to get attention
Racemixing has consequences that expand past your current life

This is the real reason why miscegenation is bad. It's a cruel thing to do to a child, to ensure they have no sense of identity or community, to guarantee they will never belong or fit in.

My friend lived with his family right next to an overpass, with a bus depot below. No garden, just a tiny balcony. Not what many would call a pretty place to live, but seen through his young kid's eyes, it was magic.

My kids are in public school, too. I have doubts about it often enough. I make the best of it by volunteering often, and I swap out his homework sometimes with questions I've written myself. Still, it can be quite dire.

You'll enjoy it. And the few messes are nothing if you're unflappable. I found them to be an easy means to a grateful wife.

>is there a problem with that?
He’s australian... so...
I thought you guys were supposed to be smart.

My 2 year old son just worked out how to open a briefcase I was fiddling about with for 5 minutes in about 30 seconds. Both proud of him and a bit embarrassed for myself.

In my experience with young children, this isn't true. It's one of those "hear on Jow Forums, repeat on Jow Forums" statements repeated by folks with no relevant experience. Perhaps it's more of an issue when they become teens.

It depends on various factors. I know a lot of people who were dating for less than a year, they get knocked up and got married or simply got married because they are in love but with questionable circumstances. In a marriage you both carry your weight and problems become equal unless appointed.

My own sister was studying (her 3rd shot at trying) and had massive debt, fell in love with a guy and quit school again before getting knocked up. He had his own problems, a low end job which couldn't support the family and neither could she with only a highschool diploma and a case of laziness. This is what I mean with carrying the weight, they both had too much and the marriage stranded after years of fighting and even more debt with kids included. Don't marry when you're still in love or cause of kids, be certain you can stand one another after the honeymoon and that you both do your best in keeping a stable household.

You'll have a briefcase full of breakfast remnants and hotwheels cars in no time.