>Descendant of European state , Kievan Rus >Descendant people of Scythians/Sarmatians >Communists hated them so bad that they did Holodomor >Literally had Ukrainian version of Corneliu Zelea Codreanu >Literally united with Hitler >Saw their future with Third reich and Bandera >Destroyed its nuclear arsenal to make world a better place >Putin and his Jewish oligarchs decide to punish Ukraine >war breaks out >Project ''Novorossya'' literally funded by Jews >Brave Ukrainians fight against Russian mongrels , reviving Nazism and Ideology of Bandera >Ukrainians and ''Right sector'' directly promote Nazism >''Rebels'' and Russians directly promote Communism and Neo-Bolshevism
Jow Forums be like: ''Ukraine is a fake state sponsored by kikes , they are fighting against the muh last bastion of the white race Russia who just want to save Europa from evil Americans and Jews.''
Eu is jews. Ru is jews. Donetsk and Lugansk are the only ones legitimately fighting for anything moral and just and it is their freedom to fuck off from both of you loonies and do their own thing.
Ukraine is fighting to join the EU for their own ration of mass immigration. They yearn to be a part of the festering corpse that is the modern Western World.
Ethan Price
>Retarded accusations without any proof >Opinions
I'm pretty sure you are Russian immigrant living in Lithuania , because only Russians are retarded enough to write what you just wrote.
I live in my country not Eu faggot. When your shitty nation got invaded by the mongol horde did you run away and leave your treasure to them or fight for your land and kids? xoxols are worse than russians.
Because the problem is that Jews that I (or some guy in france) didn‘t elect or voted for decide everything for us and we get retarded laws pushed in our collective asses like forced migration of niggers. Why do you want to import niggers ukraine?
Julian Russell
You can get fucked mate. Anyone with a shred of intellect knows that your so called 'nazis' in Ukraine are on the CIA payroll and we all know who funds that outfit, right. Wake up you fool
Both sides are controlled by kikes. It's just a ploy to get goyim to slaughter each other and destabilize the region. "Pravy Sektor" is run by a Jew (who doesn't even try to hide it) and "Novorossiya" is run by kikes too. We shouldn't be supporting either side. What we should be doing is exposing how innocent Aryans are getting Jew'd to death, literally.
Zachary Fisher
If they weren't fake and gay they'd be shooting in the other direction. >memeflaggot Saged
You are right. I really feel sorry for Ukrainians. They live in a made up, disintegrating state, they didn't have the luxury of moving their economy closer to the EU and reap the benefits that other Warsaw-pact countries like Poland, Slovakia and Czechia experienced. Ukraine is piss poor. Africa level poor even but it's still a functioning state.
I'm quite in favour of helping them clean up their territorial problems and bringing them up to speed economically. The involvement of the EU in Ukraine is one of the geostrategic moves of Brussels that I approve of.
shut the fuck vitia and return to smuggling cigarettes to west
William Cruz
Hopefully Azov batallion takes over corrupt goverment. Ukraine is bro tier
Matthew Lopez
ukraine needs holodomor 2 electric boogaloo
Aaron Allen
They are just waiting to bait nato and russia into a war. If the eu gave a damn they could help without overthrowing governments or trying to control immigration policy. Go on the NATO youtube page and watch their video on 2014 violence in odessa, at the trade unions building specifically, then watch actual footage from that, which gets posted on /gif/ regularly enough. Want to hear the official nato channel justify blocking all russian-language TV in a russian-speaking area? Want to hear them oy vey about the unoccupied offices of unelected officials getting burned, but just call it "unfortunate that there was some violence" at the trade union building when the actual footage shows hohol scum throwing molotovs into an unarmed crowd packed inside, then shooting and beating anyone who tried to climb out of the burning building? Hear the nato channel offhand mention that the western installed government just happened to delay sending fire crews or police for 8 hours, as if that was an accident? The main rot is within the western union, or at least the one we have most access to. That rot does not give a singular fuck about ukrainians.
No. The European Union is the modern day Soviet Union, and if, or when there is a war between the US and EU, Brussels will be burned to the ground. Ukraine is between a rock and a hard place. Russia doesn't have their back, so they can't throw the Jews off of their back. Russia is not as powerful as I thought they were either... Turkey shoots down their jet, and they try to become buddies. Israel uses them as a shield, and they just roll over and expose their belly. They don't have much confidence in themselves, I think they know that they'll lose. "Russia defeated Napolean and Hitler!" From what I've read, it was the harsh winter weather. Not your military prowess. And it doesn't have to be this way. Russia could easily defang the US by utilizing the Pareto principle. If Russia reformed itself, and imported the best and brightest America has to offer - America would experience brain drain, and Russia would enjoy the benefits that America would've otherwise received. They could do this to Western Europe too. Imagine if the best German physicians left for Russia. And all that was left were Nigerian physicians. You'd be screwed. This is something that Ukraine should do. Russia doesn't have a very trustworthy reputation, they are a multi-racial, multi-ethnic empire after all. But Ukraine could create white Singapores, and import white people of good character. Let me specify the good character part. Instead of wanting to be part of America or EU, they could create an environment where they could get the best of America and Europe to move over there. That's there success right there.
Jeremiah Myers
are you faceblind? its obvious that they are kikes, just look at their jewish faces.
John Thomas
Yatsenyuk was the biggest jew of them all you fucking mong
Rewritting history again Jan? You and I both well know that you never even stepped foot on that soil and it all belong to Lithuania.
James Cruz
Putin is a dictator that pretends to be gay faggot sjw liberal. Russian liberal democratic party is in reality righter than so-called american "far right".
Cameron Young
>Rewritting history again Jan? learn some respect when talking to your Sarmatian Master, now apologize for your tone nigger
This is true. There are plenty of bolshevist Jews who please Putin and Russia because they praise the USSR and they have a common enemy (Jews->Nazism, Russia->''Nazism'' aka fascist imperialist west, but which also happens to be lead by Jews'') This is how they control both sides really and they have since world war 2. If you're pro Hitler you support America, Russia, Israel and Muslims destroying each other desu
Kayden White
Funny how both are fake and gay but you retards died and we didn't
Daniel Thomas
Literally every single relevant aristocrat in the commonwealth was Lithuanian. Even your beloved Pilsudski is pure blood Lithuanian. You're just as bad as Belorussians in appropriating someone elses achievements for yourself.
>Jow Forums be like: ''Ukraine is a fake state sponsored by kikes , they are fighting against the muh last bastion of the white race Russia who just want to save Europa from evil Americans and Jews.''
Russian bot spam this shit, with their nigger-polish friends and serboturk nrothers
you retards even think that Mickiewicz was lithuanian give me break, still waiting for those apologies
Ian Cook
Ukraine has only existed for 30 years
Carson Torres
Donbass population mostly consists of descendants of criminal stock because these were sent there en masse by USSR to work in coal mines and other industry. Also many of them (like any ethnic ukrainians) have khazar, turkic and ashkenazi admixture. No wonder Putin wants them for his plan to turn Russia into his very own 56% land. Refugees from there who have been taken by Russia already behave like utter niggers.
Jackson Clark
you know that belarusians are purer Lithuanians than you?
Tyler Ross
>Project ''Novorossya'' literally funded by Jews Euromaidan was funded by Jews tho
>If the eu gave a damn they could help without overthrowing governments or trying to control immigration policy. What immigration policy? Controlling how Ukrainians can come into the EU? That's national matter.
>Go on the NATO youtube page and watch So you're telling me that it was a coup? Thanks, but I already knew that. Of course it was a coup, influenced by NGOs, to bring Ukraine into the fold of NATO/EU. But if Ukrainians actually want that...
I personally regard Ukrainians as some flavour of Russians but if Russia is too dumb to build up good relations with a related country and instead install one corrupt dictator after the other then I don't have much pity with them losing an ally. Their own fault.
>The main rot is within the western union, or at least the one we have most access to. That rot does not give a singular fuck about ukrainians. What would you propose?
Jose Price
>HURRR EVERYONE ON POHL IS A NAHHZIIIIIIIIIIIII >DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Lies and propaganda not even worth falsifying. What a surprise from a meme flag.
>Let's stick David Stars to random faces! Jow Forums will never notice! Typical kike tactics.
This chart is real. 5 minutes is all you need to verify all claims. Remember due diligence when posting on Jow Forums.
Sorry pal even if what you said was true, Khazar and caucasic admixtures are better than your original Tatar Russian ones. Russia desperately needs white admixtures of all kinds willing to respect its social order. Ukrainians and Russians are brothers (Lvov aside) and there's nothing you can do to change that.
Anthony Martin
Holy crap, I'm listening. Here are lessons learned from the West, the three things that concern me the most: 1) Never let women vote. The only people who should vote are males above the age of 26 who are married, have children, and own 3 or more firearms. 2) Keep taxation and government shit to a minimum. The less there is, the less that'll fuck you in the ass. 3) Private property rights, freedom fo speech and firearm rights, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
Are women permitted to vote in Donetsk and Lugansk? How are the private property rights? Can I talk about how I want to load up Jews into rocket ships and launch them into the sun without going to prison? Can I own any firearm that I want? Can I start up any business that I want? Are the taxes lower than 10%? Are there no gibs-me-dats programs? For example, "pensions." We have learned a hard fucking lesson, that you don't ever do that shit. You take care of the first 20 years of your children's lives, and they'll take care of your last 20. You don't need big daddy government to come wipe your ass. And because of big daddy government, the taxes will increase. And people have less children because it's not affordable. And so big daddy government says, let's bring over the smelly Mestizos. Now the situation is even worse. No social programs, no Socialism, no women voting. Women need to be private property. I'm not kidding either. Women will be better taken care of as private property anyways. The father owns her, and later the husband owns her. This is the best for her, and I'm not worried one bit about her, because she will be the safest. Women do not love men the same way a man loves a woman. A man's love is substantially more intense, it is genuine love. A woman's love is more like respect. How are the divorce and child custody laws in Dontesk and Lugansk?
Aaron Wilson
>Topple stability >Start war >Play both sides >Harvest profits along with your buddy Bagelstein who plays other side >Retarded goyim shoot each other or argue who's right Works since ancient times.
Aaron Torres
Like Bosnia and Herzegovina?
Christian Johnson
>Ukrainians and ''Right sector'' directly promote Nazism isn't the guy who funds the right sector a jew?
Evan Ortiz
Point 1 is wrong. Only business owners and decorated veterans should be allowed to vote.
>On Spiegel's initiative, monuments of Soviet Red Army soldiers have been erected in the Israeli city of Netanya
Jaxon Flores
Ukraine is based and to claim that the leaders of the Maidan Revolution were Jews is simply absurd, given the militas and groups they supported. Hail Azov!
Ethan Adams
>Can I talk about how I want to load up Jews into rocket ships and launch them into the sun without going to prison? Are you trying to model Donetsk after america? Because that's exactly what you can say in all of europe, but not in america. protip: germany is not europe.
Joshua Thomas
>No. The European Union is the modern day Soviet Union, and if, or when there is a war between the US and EU, Brussels will be burned to the ground. Thanks for your input, Tyrone.
>Russia doesn't have their back, so they can't throw the Jews off of their back. >implying there aren't any jewish billionaires in Russia One of them even tried to evade a UK travel ban by taking on israeli citizenship.
>If Russia reformed itself, and imported the best and brightest America has to offer >Imagine if the best German physicians left for Russia. Why would anyone leave Germany for Russia? Are you dumb? Russia is poor and corrupt. They may be less pozzed than the US or Germany but it's a horrible place to live.
>But Ukraine could create white Singapores, and import white people of good character. You seem to think you can teleport high-value individuals to any country on earth by buttonpress it seems. If it was that simple other countries would have done it already.
Benjamin Gray
>what would you propose Disillution of nato. No warsaw pact, no need for nato. It's just too tempting for jews to use their control in america and america's control over western europe as a giant leverage for israeli power. If nations could work on an individual basis it would make the jews job much harder and help with actually solving issues like donbass and syria, where there needs to be cooperation between the east and west and not standoffs. Western europe would be closer to soverainty without obligations of nato, america less arrogant about forcing the world into our "coallitions" for israel. It also puts us in a position to sidle up beside eastern europe and exterminate the turks once and for all. Those fucking welfare niggers posting dead americans and, shooting russian aircraft down, protecting jihadis, ovcupying constantinople... they need to be physically destroyed and nato is a block on that.
You could give veterans more of a vote, like their vote is worth 10 times as much. But you don't want to limit it to business owners. I could already imagine Amazon.com and Google buying every single business that exist so they can swing an election.
Isaac Wright
>Why would anyone leave Germany for Russia? Are you dumb? >Russia is poor and corrupt. They may be less pozzed than the US or Germany but it's a horrible place to live.
same reason people fled Russia for the west during the soviet times. marxism. only this time the marxism isn't economic. this time the marxism is based on race and gender.
Jonathan Ward
Standard vote=1 Net taxpayer=2 Veteran and civil servants=3 Combat veteran=5 ???
Jose King
If they purchase a business, it becomes part of Amazon, and therefore only entitled to Amazon's original 1 vote. Only actual owners would be entitled to the vote, and only once. No corporate bullshit. Corporations shouldn't exist anyway.
Hudson Walker
"If it was that simple other countries would have done it already." Other countries are weak faggots. The US military is full of Mexicans, women, trannies, blacks, and homos - yet if every country in the world teamed up together against the US, the US would win. Not because the US is strong. But because all of you other mother fuckers are pathetically weak. Ukraine could easily get Americans in particular to migrate over there. Americans move all of the time. I've moved, probably over 2,000 miles in my life already, from place to place. And I'm in my early 20's. Americans are quite mobile, and I have never seen other countries compete for citizenship, specifically seeking those who would be high quality applicants. And not worthless third worlders. I'm going to look into Dontesk or Lugantsk or however it's spelled later. If they have private property rights, and keep the bitches in check - I'll be over there.
Oliver Hall
Caste societies are not western.
Hunter Myers
Once eu fucks you up we will take Suvalkija back
Cameron Anderson
No. She's polish. You think i'm memeing? Get your shit straight Janus.
Yateniuk the former prime minister is half-romania, even knows the language we da joos nau
Liam Thomas
Google "kazantip". Endorsed by Ukraine, outlawed by Russia. The single one reason why Ukraine is shit just like """"Ukrainians"""" whatever that might be
James Ward
>5 minutes is all you need to verify all claims. Give source for Iryna Farion.
And how many high-value individuals have left Germany to follow a career of sycophancy in Russia? Russia's immigration comes mainly from Central Asia and believe me, they are not sending their best.
Liam Edwards
FUCK YES! Hoholstan thread. I have waited this whole day to shit on you disgusting niggers of Europe.
Well, nothing you said I disagree with, principally. I just can't see how we would all hold hands the moment NATO is being dissolved. Why are white countries infighting? Because despite everything we still call the shots. Once China will grow so big to make substantial geostrategic claims, Brussels and Donny will throw their trade spat overboard.
The point being: Ukraine remains a valuable territorial asset that white countries fight over.
Jaxon Watson
Ukraińcy chcą być głodomorkami europy czas na holodomor 2 electric boogaloo
Joshua Rogers
>Why are white countries infighting? >Infighting how can you infight with something that was never part of you?
Adrian Perry
Ahmet what are you doing in Serbia? No this goat is not for you.
Nathan Moore
>Descendant of European state , Kievan Rus You have as much in common with the Kievan Rus as the turks have in common with the Byzantine Empire. You share the same lands and that's it. >Descendant people of Scythians/Sarmatians More like descendants of Mongols, Turks, Khazars, Poles and Russians. >Literally united with Hitler Great job Mykola, allying with the people who openly wanted to genocide your people and enslave what's left while colonising "your" lands with germans. >Saw their future with Third reich and Bandera Oh yes, Bandera. The balding cuck who achieved nothing and ended up being thrown into a concentration camp by his supposed allies the krauts. >Destroyed its nuclear arsenal to make world a better place Hey, hohols, give us what nukes the Soviets left in your "country" and we'll totally protect you. Fastforward 25 years. Ahahahha dumb hohols actually believed that. >Putin and his Jewish oligarchs decide to punish Ukraine Is this why you've elected a kike as your prime minister and became a literal vassal to the jewish IMF? >Brave Ukrainians fight against Russian mongrels , reviving Nazism and Ideology of Bandera So brave you cannot deal with a couple thousands of chimping out Russian peasants with AK-47 and a couple of BUK rocket launchers. And so brave over 3 million of your "people" came here to pick berries and clean our toilets.
This is beyond retarded Pavlo. Just fucking kill yourself already.
This. Male, above the age of 26 (brain fully matures, more life experience) married with children (investment in the future), owns firearms (ensures the continutation of the 2nd amendment). Anything would generally be better than what we have right now, it's a clusterfuck. It's varying races and interest groups fighting over a pile of cash.
I do know of some German Christians and homeschoolers who have left for Russia. But the point is, Russia would have to reform itself. After the fall of the SU, they chose a terrible fucking system. They let women vote. If women couldn't vote, would Europe be in the situation that it is in right now? The dead illegal alien child laying face first into the sand, was that propoganda intended for men? Or women and their nurturing instincts? Who the fuck decided it was a good idea to let women vote? Have you ever tried dating 18 - 21 girls? Dumb creatures, and they aren't going to change. But like I said, if Russia or Ukraine reformed themselves, they could without a doubt change the direction of history.
>"If it was that simple other countries would have done it already." l2greentext, newfag
>Other countries are weak faggots. Isn't the whole point of your strategy that weak faggot countries can become strong by inviting scientists and entrepreneurs over? There's some circular logic going on, no?
>Ukraine could easily get Americans in particular to migrate over there. Americans move all of the time. You really believe that? Afaik Americans are like gypsies but they stay in the US, they don't want to learn another language. Why isn't Singapore or Guernsey, or Switzerland or whatever overrun with Americans?
>If they have private property rights, and keep the bitches in check - I'll be over there. Alright Stefan. See you later.
>Google "kazantip". An electronic-dance music festival? Is the reason why Ukraine is shit?
