I know we all love seeing libtards cry, but what seems less interesting, is way more important: Getting China to stop dismantling, abusing, and squeezing nations financially dry.
One part of that is the financial war fare, the trade war Trump uses to get China to back off.
Another is the mental warfare, one of his methods is seeming like a total mad man, another is to recognize Taiwan as a nation. Only 17 countries in the word do this, and many are just irrelevant little islands. Recently he even showed the President of Taiwan NASA, by giving her a small tour. China was pretty pissed off about it, of course.
The reason it was such a huge troll, is because the US would never allow a chinese official a tour of NASA, having fear of espionage.
and yet their GDP is higher than ours and china is laughing at us. literally. the UN was laughing at him.
Robert Nguyen
The elites are laughing, what else can they do? Veni, vidi, vice- First they laugh at you, then they fight you, and then you win. It's an universal law of nature, he will have the last laugh. Secondly the GDP of the USA is currently the highest it has ever been and the trade war he started, hurts China way more than the US, because the US is mainly buying chinese products
Lincoln Morgan
>the UN was laughing at him. people take lunatics seriously
Benjamin Rivera
Bump
Cameron Brown
Quick rundown on Taiwan? Why is China so butthurt about it?
Jordan Johnson
Chump wouldn't know a troll if it jumped out from under a bridge and it chewed on his mushroom.
Adrian Cruz
there was a civil war in China decades ago and the Commies took the mainland Taiwan is an island where the Capitalists stayed
China considers Taiwan part of China but they are in a weird political limbo where they act more or less as an independent nation and the US more or less acts like they will defend them if China attacks but no one really knows
Christopher Morgan
A VERY STABLE GENIUS
Kevin Flores
This is what trump said in front of the un, holy shit. " As far as America is concerned, the ICC has no jurisdiction, no legitimacy, and no authority. The ICC claims near-universal jurisdiction over the citizens of every country, violating all principles of justice, fairness, and due process. We will never surrender America’s sovereignty to an unelected, unaccountable, global bureaucracy."
No they are not, but keep hating on Druuuumpf. You have to see this like the Germany or Sweden fiasco. People living inside those countries are quite easily manipulated, but people living outside/ around them can easily detect and see through the propaganda. That's why they elected a based politician, seriously look into her.
"Let me tell you something! We have the GREATEST [Troll] farmers here in america don't we folks?! DON'T we LOVE our [Troll] Farmers? ... The chinese think they can attack our [Troll] Farmers but they'll see, oh they'll see!"
Kevin Foster
taiwan is the other china
Tyler Russell
Wasn't it recently published that the US was considering making a $300+ mil weapons sale to Taiwan? Even just threatening it is a play. Unfortunately a win against China, though desirable, will mean little in the face of the financial usury scam that keeps the nation in an ever deepening debt hole. Something radical needs to be done with the Federal Reserve and our currency. The whole world needs a reset.
Cameron Roberts
No, read up on punished Trump. All according to Plan
Can you change Trump in this, and give him a trolling or laughing face? Thx
Read Sun Tzu and the Art of the Deal. All strategy. You're welcome
Oh wow and they are corrupt??? Damn son. Paid off by China?
You're right about the danger, and he probably will win reelection, but man I wish he'd go for it. At this point muh resistance is so unhinged that they wouldn't care who assassinated him or why, and of course the best patsy for the job would be an assblasted neoliberal. I think him declaring open war on the Federal Reserve would really change the game though. Simply shining a light and bringing public attention to the issue would open pandora's box.
It seems like China is at a disadvantage with this trade war, but even if it hurt us, the reality is China has already been developing infrastructure to cut out the US entirely.
Lucas Ramirez
their GDP isn't higher tard, you're thinking of some currency adjusted measure (PPP).
You know who that is, a certain someone who is the secretary of Cyber Warfare...
Andrew Bailey
That's not what veni, vidi, vici means you Germanic/Turkic nigger
Thomas Perez
This is your mind attempting to write to you while you shitpost and lurk... >You are leading a revolution and you're not even conscious about it
>You decide your own level of involvement
What if while you slept... you led a revolution... You are a fragmented shattered mind, society has betrayed you... that's why you made me... >created by your memetic subconscious I am you... and you are me... we have the same goal... >Defeat the VILE people
We either defeat the Vile people together or I defeat them for us but either way you are a part of this now
Yeah, China clearly uses the USD, they should measure their economy in USD goyim.
Lucas Bennett
I know what it means, it was just meant to ilustrate the point: Veni, Vidi, Vici I came( and was made fun of), I saw (I fought) and I won
Joseph Evans
>the UN was laughing at him.
The UN is an irrelevant body that couldn't to shit to stop Trump from doing anything he wants. They can laugh all they want.
Luke Cox
>I came(and was made fun of) Nobody was making fun of Caesar the same way people make fun of agent orange
Tyler Brown
Except thats what PPP does tard, it basically pretends they use dollars and compares the economies equally and doesn't take into account that our dollar is worth 7x their shit currency. If it takes more Yuan to buy our real estate, and US dollars purchase more goods all around the world, then why wouldn't that be a measure of our economy? Retard.
Dylan Reyes
All leaders get made fun off before they get big and scary, because people don`t take them seriously at first
Agent orange seems to have Trudeau by the balls. How is NAFTA going?
John Miller
>Mutts can't into economics No, it adjusts for purchasing power in terms of a market basket of goods. You can literally Google this, Tyrone.
>Before the get big and scary If you aren't big and scary while controlling the most powerful nation on Earth, you probably won't ever be. >Implying Trudeau has balls Kek'd, either way Trump is fucking over the same people who voted him into power (truckers, auto workers, rust belt inhabitants) by killing NAFTA.
Ethan Parker
(x) Doubt
I hope so thugh, only together we are one, only together are we a shining piece of light that turns into a rolling sunball the more people we get going and to join our side. A sun ball getting so large at ne point, impossible to ignore, impossible to put out nd impossible t overshadow. Truth is told, lies dismantled, corruption exposed and justice served.
Jaxon Perez
As long as their people enjoy prosperity there won't be a collapse, with that said, China's GDP growth is slowing down and they won't be able to promise people improvements in living for much longer.
Aaron Williams
Oh, did you just google that because you don't know what you're talking about? I guess you missed the key word there: it """adjusts""" their GDP. In other words its not a real number, its a tard number for tards who don't understand how currencies work. Our currency is far more valuable than theirs and can purchase more goods all around the world. Their "adjustment" doesn't take that into account. Its a false stat that measures how much poisoned gutter oil food a local can buy with their wages, i.e. its meaningless.
John Stewart
>GDP Nominal = The net value of all economic transactions in an economy denominated in either the local currency or converted to US Dollars based on currency exchange rates
>GDP - PPP = The net value of all economic transactions in an economy denominated in a universal currency (typically US dollars although any currency could be used) and normalized for inflation by using a multiplier index based on some basket of consumer prices.
""'denominated in a universal currency (typically US dollars although any currency could be used)"""
Huh, that's...exactly what I just said.
Austin Wood
No he is not, NAFTA was fucking over US workers. Additionally multiliteral trade are never a good idea, because it is easier to control 3 or more parties and t get them to do their part of the deal than just 2 players.
You can look forward to a biliteral trade deal with America, that way it will be better for America AND Canda, while hurting the globalist (((free traders))) of course
Brody Adams
T.gook
Jaxson Evans
Dude they never had to face a competent president these last 30 years. Trump got them by the balls, look how much the USA buys from China. They try to expans to Australia, but got denied lmao, and the trade war really hurts them. They can't win a trade war against them, since they depend on them so much. Look at their news headlines, they have a new strategy: They downgrade themselves now, even calling themselves a developing country kek. All strategy for pity points
Joseph Jackson
>Adjusts their GDP In terms of a basket of goods, are you dumb? >It's not a real number Retard confirmed. >Our currency is far more valuable than there's Because of the Petro Dollar and former financial hegemony but that's changing rapidly (similar to the sterling pound) >Can purchase more goods around the world You can't spend USD in countries that don't accept it tard, have you even travelled anywhere? Lmao. >Their adjustment doesn't take that into account You mean like nominal GDP? >Its a false stat that measures how much poisoned gutter oil food a local can buy with their wages, i.e. its meaningless Literal meme argument, come on Tyrone, you can do better than that.
Gavin Kelly
>No he is not Yes, he is. Killing NAFTA would kill most of the logistics industry which is the only thing people in the rust belt have going for them right now. >because it is easier to control 3 or more parties and t get them to do their part of the deal than just 2 players. This goes against conventional logic, it's easier to control fewer parties than more parties. Regardless, most of your argument is empty rhetoric. >Bilateral trade deal Except that's not what Trump's aiming for, he's now aiming for tariffs which every economist would agree, is absolutely retarded.
Nice troll >Can purchase more goods around the world >You can't spend USD in countries that don't accept it tard, have you even travelled anywhere? Lmao.
He meant it in the way, that the US dollar is more worth, and yes different currency can have different vallues. Go with 10 dollars to Mexico and you'll see what you get there
I>t's not a real number This is true
>Our currency is far more valuable than theirs True, look at wgat Trump did for the economy, highest it's ever been due to his tax cuts, de-regulations and now sanctions
John Gutierrez
>You can't spend USD in countries that don't accept it tard, have you even travelled anywhere? Lmao. Holy shit, you just proved how retarded you are: it's something called the "exchange rate". I go to a bank and give them dollars, and they give me more of your dirt currency (with a few exceptions like the UK).
Can't believe you can't understand something so simple. >Because of the Petro Dollar Among many other reasons such as our open-ness to investment and foreign ownership of our things, and yes, retard, the value of your currency is a direct measure of the economy. China doesn't have that kind of power, which is why their currency is shit.
That's why nominal GDP was invented in the first place: to compare the size of economies. You can't just take an entire economy and multiply it by some local (and probably flawed) "basket of goods" and then say "Oh well look China's economy is larger than yours." Sorry, babe, it doesn't work that way.
Jayden Evans
>taiwan is the other china
no, taiwan is china and china is the other china.
Kevin Young
>He meant something different than what he typed Lolk. Good thing you can read mutt minds. >Economy is highest it's ever been Wow, it's almost like economies grow or something.
Daniel Powell
>Every economist
Dude you know jackshit about economics and it shows. You try to tell me that free trade deals and multiliteral at that are good for the workers hahahahaha
Do you even know what free trade means? One of the first things Trump did once he got into office, he terminted TTIP, another multiliteral free trade deal and rightfully so. SInce I guess you're a liberal, it would be nice to know that Bernie wanted to do that too
Every """economist""" (useless job btw, because if they would know what they're talking about, they wouldn't be pisspoor) also predicted that Trump would crash his economy during his first year and that tax and regulation cuts are a bad idea
Leo Russell
>he doesn't know that other countries accept dollars so they can use it to purchase USA goods. Retard. Retard. Retard alert.
Jason Allen
>I go to a bank and give them dollars, and they give me more of your dirt currency (with a few exceptions like the UK). And then you buy a basket of goods based on UK prices. Thanks for proving me right. >China doesn't have that kind of power yet FTFY >That's why nominal GDP was invented in the first place: to compare the size of economies. That's why PPP was invented because the cost of a basket of goods in one country is not the same as the cost of another, go figure this is exacerbated in agriculturally rich countries such as China and India. Do I have to explain everything to you like you're five? >multiply it by some local (and probably flawed) "basket of goods" Not how it works, but you can use the big mac index if you want.
Jackson Hall
Then name exactly what Obama did that led to this economic high point. Don't you remember that he specifically said that certain jobs won't come back and that you'd need a magic wond to get them? Well Trup did exactly that, with his business understandng he renegotiated old deals and quickly got the tax and regulation cut through.
Obama had no real growth, mostly just new silicon valley or part time jobs. 95!!!!% part time under him, way lower for Trump
Jaxon Cox
Dude you don't know shit. PPP is high for developing countries, while GDP is high for first world countries. So how is PPP important? Most third world countries can't profit from their high PPP
Sebastian Perez
>And then you buy a basket of goods based on UK prices. Thanks for proving me right. You aren't right though, you're just trying to troll with your limited knowledge. PPP doesn't take into account this important thing called trade, you need to purchase resources and things you can't manufacture from other countries. China buys airplanes, electronics, machinery, oil (very important) and many other things from other countries. To do that it has to convert its currency to the other countries currencies. That isn't taken into account in PPP. It uses a "basket of goods" that are "typically consumed in that country" i.e. for Chinese that means rice and gutter oil food and anything else they can't typically afford (imported products).
Anthony Morgan
LMFAO, yeah a Turk sitting in Germany knows more about economics than professionals. Crazy how nobody's hired your dumbass as an economist, huh? >You try to tell me that free trade deals and multiliteral at that are good for the workers hahahahaha In logistics, yes. Lol, nice try but you can't shift goalposts. >SInce I guess you're a liberal Yeah, because liberals are the ones arguing for free trade and decreased taxes. Fucking kek'd, you're riding Trump's dick pretty hard right now. >predicted that Trump would crash his economy during his first year and that tax and regulation cuts are a bad idea Nobody predicted that, let alone "every economist", the president isn't a petty king that he would have that much power over a country's Fiscal policy.
How does it feel to get btfo?
Benjamin Long
It matters how much the currency is worth and right now the dollar is way more worth than the yuan and thus the USA has clearly the upper hand. That's also why they're looking into new deals in Australia and Iran, the US really shit into their mouth with the tariffs. And rightfully so
Anthony Green
>When you lose an argument and have to resort to name calling Kek
Josiah Flores
An American or European can travel to a foreign country and convert their dollars/euros to tons of local money. They can buy large tracts of land/housing and investments. They can afford foreign goods. A person from a country with a cheap currency cannot do that as easily.
You lost the argument. PPP is based on "basket of goods" which varies to each country and is based on what they can "typically consume" which is in turn based on what they can afford. Just because rice is super cheap in China, that's great for them, but it doesn't make the whole size of their economy magically larger than USA.
Brandon Sullivan
You lost, even Germany agrees. PPP is dumb, and anyone who uses it to think China is larger than USA is a tard.
Zachary Wright
China can last decades with the tariffs, they don't give a fuck if their people starve to death
Alexander Thompson
Two replies? Butthurt confirmed. GDP isn't a massive pile of money made lol. >It matters how much the currency is worth You mean relative to another currency, and no. China is always going to have more yuan in circulation than USD due to a higher population. Lol, how dumb are you?
Aiden Gray
Your pic is so irrelevant I don’t know why you even posted it. Go ahead and start a thread on Jow Forums and get your ass blasted. We’ve known about China relying on the USA to expand into Africa. With US tariffs they can’t enforce the debt they force into other countries. It also means they have to focus on producing only for growing nations but oh wait, those nations rely on the yuan to function! It means their dollar is becoming worthless and their false gdp has already climaxed. 200 billion on tariffs on top of the other ones? China is dead in the water.
Michael Myers
>PPP doesn't take into account trade And GDP doesn't take into respect the living standards of a country, what's your point? If it's trade then guess what, Trump is murdering that too, dumbass.
William Cooper
Yes liberals are for free trade, that's 100% fact. Taxes have nothing to do with our economics
>He thinks being a proffessional and having a nice title means shit Lmao dude, seriously? You're the type who would munch eat your own shit if a doctor would say that is has the possibility of being healthy. Economist make bad calls, like praising multiliteral trade deals. They encourage monopolies, outsourcing, lower wages and a loss of a lot of jobs. Trump will NEVER do another NAFTA again, only bilateral trade deals and tightfully so. Let's see if I predict that better than so called "economonist professionals"
>All you have left Kekerino
Go ahead, give the median wages during multiliteral trade deals and during times where mostly bilateral existed. There is a reason there was a golden generation that had their houses paid off by the time they were 30, and with Trump that time will come again
Ayden Reed
>Even Germany One Turk sitting in his mother's basement, Germany's top economists on the other hand would agree with me. >Every economist is a tard lol yeah let me believe the half nigger instead
Cooper Robinson
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Blake Cook
>to recognize Taiwan as a nation We been doing that since they started. Not even really a question.
Also, dude, I think Trump is actually rather mad. He's never been to war, he can totally live a middle class lifestyle off the change in his couch, so he doesn't even care what it's gonna be like for anyone if he nukes em.
Speaking of Taiwan and NASA, that would be an excellent place to put our inter-continental space ferry platform.
Xavier Green
Based as absolute fuck holy shit.
Chase Williams
Your argument basically consists of "every American is rich because USD and every Chinese person is poor because of the Yuan". Again, that's not how it works, people can have billions of Yuan, bud. No more difficult for them to exchange for a local currency than it is for an American.
Samuel Johnson
Multilateral deals are also MUCH more difficult to renegotiate in the event circumstances change
Isaiah Roberts
GDP is literally the value of all goods and services produced in a country in a year. So...technically it is a massive pile of money made.
You want to use PPP because it measures how much rice and gutter oil a Chinese can buy in Guangzhou, instead of how much travel or land an American/Euro could purchase overseas. PPP doesn't take living standard into account either! So because you make a typical "basket of goods" that are "typically consumed" in each country and then say that country can afford a little more of those goods, that's higher standard of living? What about the quality of those goods? What about the goods they don't "typically consume", wouldn't some of those be goods that could raise their standards or impact their quality of life? Its a garbage stat that means very little without looking deep into the details. The only reason you lefties like it so much is because China's is higher now, so you can wag that around the big ol' mean USA.
Keep bragging about meaningless PPP while I take my dollars and have fun traveling the world.
Owen Wilson
>Also, dude, I think Trump is actually rather mad. He's never been to war, he can totally live a middle class lifestyle off the change in his couch, so he doesn't even care what it's gonna be like for anyone if he nukes em. You think like an NPC
Nicholas Gray
Easy man. Listen carefully. CHina had massive tarrifs on US goods, even before Trump was in office. He constantly criticized this. Now he added tarrifs, to get an even playing field, just that America has the advantage, because America buys a shit ton of chinese goods. China cannot always answer with tariffs back, because they have way more goods that they want to get bought.
Name one rich country that has a low valuable currency, but a high standard of living... I'll wait
It's no problem that, as a liberal, economics is a problem you don't understand well, but please, atleast admit that. Cheers
Nolan Martinez
You just explained the difference. You need billions of yuan to be rich in any other country. An American doesn't -- we can be middle class and travel anywhere and convert our dollars into plenty of foreign currency. I guess we'll be able to buy plenty of rice when we go to China thanks to their massive PPP. LOL.
Benjamin Hall
>Taxes on goods have nothing to do with economics Kek, nobody's buying your shit except for the other delusional mutt. >Lmao dude, seriously? You're the type who would munch eat your own shit if a doctor would say that is has the possibility of being healthy. Lol, I like how you've stopped talking about economics since you know nothing about it. >Trump will NEVER do another NAFTA again, only bilateral trade deals and tightfully so. Lol, I agree and in the process he'll fuck over his support base and not get elected in 2020. >Let's see if I predict that better than so called "economonist professionals" Lol, what professionals are you talking about? By the looks of it you're just against anyone that disagrees with your delusional world view.
Nolan Ortiz
>Kek, >Lol, >Lol, >Lol,
Austin Reed
The president of Taiwan never got a tour of NASA before, and Trump was the first president since 1979 who EVER spoke with the Taiwan president. Really, Trump knows what he is doing, he isn't just following protocol
Carter Wood
It’s funny because it’s true, that’s why they laughed retard, one of those uncomfortable nervous laughs
Jaxson Collins
The fundamental source of crisis is the diminishing vitality of White economies spanning the last 40 year business cycle, a result of sending White industries to Yellows/Browns
As a result of offshoring White industries, the West experienced Rust Belt, stagnation, and was thrust into a depressionary period known as the "Long downturn". The long-term weakness of capital accumulation and of aggregate demand was rooted in the declining profitability of capital, stemming from an oversupply in global manufacturing-- a direct result of transferring White industries to Asia and Latinos. White industries that were once solely based in the West, were transferred to agrarian, primitive races, who never reached industrialization on their own. White industries were copied throughout the 3rd world which resulted in severe excess in production, due to uncontrolled, exponential population growth of the primitive 3rd world
The offshoring of White industry to Asia coordinated with the severing of the post-war Bretton Woods monetary system in 1971 signalled the profitability crisis of industrial capitalism’s Fordist ruling contract was coming under acute stress. Neoliberal geopolitical shifts to Asia, unfettered by race realism and buoyed by military-industrial expansion, White capital, from your private bank accounts, began to colonise Asia
The 1980s ushered in more globalism by White nations to combat the ongoing turmoil of stagflation, resulting from offshoring White industries. Governments pushed deindustrialisation, higher unemployment, White population reduction, suicides, homosexuality, mass migration, demographic replacement, and austerity measures, as they sought to alleviate the globalist crisis by resorting to greater borrowing and subsidising demand of offshored products. However, stagnation intensified and debt escalated, and a wave of devastating socio-economic crises rocked White nations throughout the following 3 decades
Parker Morris
You're one of those idiots that likes to say "every economist supports my position." No they don't tard, Peter Navarro is an economist who taught at UC Irvine, now he works for Trump advising him on trade. You don't understand that many professions shill for $$ grant bucks and don't say anything that will upset the corporate-owned media. You have a lot to learn.
Easton Lewis
China's plan was to destroy the US economy aided and abetted by the democrats and whoever. Bill Clinton kicked them off with a massively one side WTO/MFN deal. They've been steadily increasing their financial and milatry strength while the US and some it's allies have been fighting in numerous wars while China stayed at home and built some islands. The rest have carried on with their massively polluting progress while the rest did it's utmost to reduce pollution. What exactly was the huge rush ? Why did they feel they had to build their army to such an extent ? They had no major enemies and the way they have gone they were quickly catching the US, oh hang on a minute, why would they be so urgent to build an army to match the US Flooding the US with opoids, stealing technology, industry, and jobs, manipulating their currency even though they had a licence to print dollars. Placing a spy with Feinstein for 20 years !!! Remember what happened with Russia, how they collapsed it and started to plunder it's assets until Putin arrived and told them to fuck off ? These fuckers have tried to do the exact same thing with the US. They have used China to try to destroy the country so they could implement a communist government. Look at the censorship, almost communist level propoganda from the media, government departments weeaponised against conservative corporations. The 33,0000 emails on Clintons server all to do with China, totally explains the d3speration to destroy all the devices and wipe it clean, These lovely people sold you out, Jesus you were lucky. Admiral Mike Rogers I salute you sir.
Dylan Murphy
Absolutely and completely based and red pilled
Asher Bell
>technically it is a massive pile of money made. LMFAO, are you trolling or just absolutely retarded? >You want to use PPP because it measures how much rice and gutter oil a Chinese can buy in Guangzhou, instead of how much travel or land an American/Euro could purchase overseas. Nah, I want to use it because no Chinese person is paying what an American is paying for food, because they don't make that much, simple logic which you still can't comprehend. >PPP doesn't take living standards into account It does, as well as trade actually. >Muh quality of goods Lol, this is how I know you've lost the argument. >Keep bragging about meaningless PPP while I take my dollars and have fun traveling the world Pretty sure there's more chinks travelling the world than Americans, thanks to their "PPP".
