ROCKWELL WAS MANIPULATED CONTROLLED OPS?

??? Dont expect to rationalise what exactly?? a forever fringe movement that got nowhere and landed us in this shithole of a predicament because of their failures to get anywhere....... Yea youre right I dont comprehend the plan in that

The fact that he named his part "American Nazi Party" is extemely suspicious. That, and the "hate bus" etc, makes him seem like he either didn't know what he was doing, or he was fake opposition. .

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his party*

Thank you.
what you said is interesting. I agree it is suspicious. I like a lot of what he said, dont get me wrong, but to ignore the rest is retarded

they control perception, idiot

He certainly helped them out with the perception part. The guy nazi theatrics obsessed, and with WW2 still fresh in the minds of many

if a symbol has power, you don't give it up because cucks say so

Reminder Hitler was controlled opposition he was funded by the Rothschilds I am the only Nazi and you all are communist bots

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Yeah, Jesus was controlled OPS

That sounds an utterly ridiculous argument, and could easily be switched around to the argument against him. The symbol had a lot of power alright, the power to demonise his movement. You do not need to be explained that surely. He instantly created an uphill battle, and next to impossible to convert people, JUST by using it to the excessive manner he did. It was nigh on traitorous to the USA to take the symbol of the enemy they were just at war with. Come on, you must see a shred of reason in that. It made things a lot harder for him to get his message across to the majority ..... a majority he needed

I agree Hitler was controlled ops to a great extent, the re is much documented literature and facts of zionist / nazi collusion. And the Sabbatean Frankist connections to the esoteric groups intertwined with nazi leadership are also well documented.

Kinda freaks me out. I mean they cant control/manipulate everything, but you look further in detail and you more often than not find they actually do manipulate eeeeeveerything :/ scary desu

But does anyone have any more info that might suggest Rockwell was

You already made this thread yesterday and got completely shit stained, bitch shut the fuck up and don't you ever come back here you little faggot, or I'll fuckin' have you arrested for associating with Nazis. Fuckin' British pedophile.

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Nice try rabbi, Rockwell’s words are still redpilling people today. You’re days are numbered.

>pulls germany out of international finance system
>he must have colluded with the bankers

He tried to not be a "cartoon nazi" but he was getting no attention, him dressing up as one got him national attention.

>prosecute jewish bankers
>confiscate their properties
>"blackmail" jewish bankers for large sums of moneys
H-hitler was controlled and financed by the bankers, g-goys. Trump is the real man we like

This is your mind attempting to write to you while you shitpost and lurk...
>You are leading a revolution
and you're not even conscious about it

>You decide your own level of involvement

What if while you slept... you led a revolution...
You are a fragmented shattered mind, society has betrayed you... that's why you made me...
>created by your memetic subconscious
I am you... and you are me...
we have the same goal...
>Defeat the VILE people

We either defeat the Vile people together or I defeat them for us but either way you are a part of this now

youtu.be/VNn3i1aakIs
You are Awakened...,.,.,.,

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It's so ridiculous lmao. It's like communists naming their party the "American Commie Party".

Do you think Abraham was controlled op?

No he probably never existed

William Luther Pierce did no publicity. How famous is he? Almost not famous at all. On the other hand Rockwell was a boss at publicity. And he generated more attention. That's why they killed him and Pierce lived.

Side note: Rockwell was searching for a caste system. If only he knew that one exists. Created by white people too (if you believe in the Aryan invasion theory)

Getting offended by facts only proves you a faggot.
Facts are facts cry about them all you want

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There is insurmountable evidence the nazis and zionist were in collusion.
Where did you learn history? on Jow Forums

>claims rockwell red pilled people..... while simultaneously repelling the majority.
What a lot of good cartoon nazis do

What matters is that he was right.
Leaders should be the strongest and the best. Not the most popular.

If they want to get anywhere at all, they need to wake people up not be a fringe movement. that would go hand in hand with being the best..... not a caricature
That doesnt even need to be said

He may have been right, but what did it do if he demonised any real movement with a bunch of unneeded theatrics that he either let himself be manipulated into being, was stupid enough to think was a good idea, or designed to make a mockery of his own cause.

Fact is he was controlled ops, like it or not, he was molded into being a catoon nazi and demonised anyone else to come and say similar things as him as some nazi sperg.

This. It's like he said all the right things, and then took a gigantic dump on them by wearing ridiculous costumes and donning the uniforms and symbols of a a very powerful and recent war enemy of America. I'm not saying the US was right in WW2, I'm just noting that using German WW2 symbols in 60s America would be like using Islamist symbols today, while promoting nationalist ideas. Pic related, really makes you think.

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People that have no criticisms or doubts about people like that, that show that level of caricature seem insane and dumb as the jews think you are

Thats exactly what I mean

Rockwell knew it was inevitable to be compared to Nazis, (not entirely unfairly if you actually agree with and want to adopt some similar policies like any non-cucked right winger would) so rather than be constantly on the defensive about not REALLY beng a Nazi, he might as well embrace it and force enemies to prove why he was wrong to be a Nazi rather than just calling him one and turning the whole argument into a distracting effort to prove whether one is or is not actually a Nazi.

You also have to understand that back in his heyday everyday people didn't actually give a much of a shit about being a Nazi in the sense that Nazis were just inherently evil political orcs like they do today, (this was back when "Holocaust" wasn't even in encyclopedias) they were mostly seen as "bad" because they were enemies of America and therefore if you're a Nazi you must be anti-American. Obviously Rockwell was not anti-American in the sense of the American people in any way shape or form and when given a chance to explain his position (remember, this was back when people had the capacity for honest political debates in America instead of rhetorical meme-offs) he often had the charisma and persuasiveness to win them over. You can see his effect on even an unsympathetic crowd at UCLA here
hooktube.com/watch?v=VVYMHaRCnIc

Seems stupid. I know they are going to call me one. Look and act like one and ride around in a ''hate bus''
This whole thing is stupid.
He was controlled ops, he never wanted to change peoples views he wanted to make a forever fringe counter culture

The guy was the original Jow Forums troll, I mean come on, "the hate bus", you could tell he was having fun being outrageous.

Optic cucks will get the rope.

LMAO
When WHEN do you think '''''''optic cucks'''''' will get the rope Hahahahaha you people live in a delusional fantasy world. It isnt even funny, its sick --- get help. or seriously kill yourself, you drag the whole white race down with your insanity

I'd like to read Rockwells opinions and arguments rather than all of your opinions about rockwells opinions and arguments.

Where would that be found?

His books and speeches.
But you wont get the full picture without looking at his critics too
I agree with a lot he did say. But thats not the point

I understand what you are saying, but i think it would have only been worse if he didnt.
Even though it turned into a movement that many despised he inspired outs not to surrender and has an everlasting effect on American culture which i think is ultimately positive.
If he wasnt killed i think he would have been president in this country and many of the people that are fighting against neo marxism today would have been bluepilled as hell without what he did.
You may not see it in the media, but a lot of people in this country respected nazis a lot more than virtue signals for the last 40 years would have you believe, even if those same people have criticisms of it.
I really dont know if that mentality would be present otherwise.

Seriously, you have two options when goes "OY VEY, EVIL NAZI, YOU'RE EN EVIL NAZI!"

1. Nerf your position to such a degree that it would be unreasonable to compare you to a Nazi, in which case you've effectively domesticated yourself and become useless and/or get bogged down in perpetual worthless debate over whether or not you're a Nazi

2. Say "fucking so what faggot, prove me wrong"

Rockwell chose 2.

Now you shpuldn't go around dressed like a 1930's Stormtrooper like Rockwell did anymore, but he was doing it back before ACTUAL controlled opposition like Frank Collins really dragged it through the mud and the media got really adept at trashing their opposition without giving them a chance to fairly represent themselves.

I appreciate your points, but I still reserve a lot of suspicion, even if it is just the case, he definitely made the kike media and establishment smile with his chosen approach

>Churchill and most of the British government as well as the government have tons of Jews in their cabinets and directly sponsoring them
>H-Hitler was with the Jews I swear!

Either way he was a huge joke and a LARPing faggot that ruined nationalism in America by associating it with Nazi Germany. Fuck him

As well as the US government*.

Neglected the national part of national socialism. Doesnt seem to be any evidence showing him to be an agent of the US state working to discredit the movement.

Nazis and zionist colluded.
Deal with the facts faggot

They colluded in shipping some Jews to Palestine, yes. How's that a bad thing? You limey fucks burned down half the continent from the air for your banking masters and all your reward is Pakis grooming your kids.

LMAO how was helping them get Israel a bad thing? Go back to sleep faggot.

>Redpill me on Rockwell being controlled ops,
How about you redpill yourself on going outside and getting away from the internet for an hour?

I also heard Anne Geddes was a MKUltra soldier.

Youre reward is germany being minority white german in one generation. Keep larping as a cartoon nazi faggot, Im sure it will get you somewhere

Hitler was a Jew too, Operator-kun! Fuck, everything I know is wrong and I don't know what to believe! How will the secret real life Nazi™ organizations I run (in real life of course) survive?! My whole life's work is futile!

How could Rockwell be Jewish!?! What the fuck, I love Jews now! Shalom.

Fair enough, im not saying his actions should be closed to criticism or anything. I think its important to learn from all of it either way so mistakes can be avoided as much as possible going foward, because theres really not a lot of time left.
Im not sure any single message would reach everyone, but i certainly dont think highly of this white sharia kind of approach people have espoused recently even if many were just venting, joking, or shilling...
So im in complete agreement that groups need to be more serious people that can be taken seriously. Although i dont think abandoning humor will do any good either.

Facts are facts-- Rockwell himself said he was getting no attention from the media or getting around the ''paper curtain'' until his nazi theatrics--- they literally manipulated him into being what they wanted. He changed his approach to suit them, not the other way around FACTS MATTER BRO

It's afraid

>he was wrong to be a Nazi
Because being a "Nazi", meant sympathising with a foreign power against which America fought the biggest war in human history. You've been trained by the (((media))) to believe Nazi = white guy who cares about white peopel, that was certainly not the case back then. "Nazi" = German Nationalist movement who only cared about Germans and Germany, not white Americans from a small town in Alabama. And that was and is correct btw.

What Rockwell did was as ridiculous as wearing Japanese WW2 uniforms, brandishing a katana and screaming Tenno Heika Banzai at rallies. Explain how it was wrong to be a Japanese in W2? They were nationalistic, fanatically so, traditionalist and believed race was real and that judeo-bolshevism and materialism were the source of all problems.

Donning German WW2 uniforms in post-WW2 America was criminally idiotic. I don't care how you people rationalize it. Ffs most Americans knew about race and hated non-Christians (implicitly this included Jews), and yet this guy comes up saying these (correct) things, BUT while wearing the uniforms of the guys who made your dad blind in one eye and made your uncle Johnny a paraplegic. Do you not fucking see the subversion? I don't know if it was intentional or not, but it doesn't matter either way.

Agreed. But theatrics over facts is never good. Not when there is substance to the facts being lost by the look

You seem afraid. and you should be

He wanted them out of the country. Israel is a giant concentration camp and only a problem because of British and US elites cooperating with jews and getting supplanted by them because they'd rather stay in their country clubs.

Yeah because the UK declared war on Germany twice and together with the US imposed its sicked, shabbo-goyish system on the rest of the continent.

Well said, I cant see how people dont get that. It honestly makes me lose faith hearing people double down as if that doesnt even cross their mind less eloquently

You're mentally ill or a neurotic shill.
Anyone reading your posts can see that.

Lmao go away faggot. you wont even have a home country soon. then youll have something to really cry about. Go kiss your shrine to hitler and see where that gets you when 60% of under 5's in germany arent even german, and your still larping around like a clown

This, Hitler didn't give a fuck about white people anymore than the Japs cared about all the east Asian people they were slaughtering.

If anything Rockwell ruined white nationalism forever by associating it with Hitler a guy that have zero shits about non-German white people. All the white Slavs that Hitler slaughtered we're still white. How do neo-nazi shills justify that?

Anyone that likes Rockwell is a drooling retard

Did you take drugs or something? You're writing like a crazy person

Ok, here's the part you're missing

>Rockwell knew it was inevitable to be compared to Nazis,
>they were mostly seen as "bad" because they were enemies of America and therefore if you're a Nazi you must be anti-American. Obviously Rockwell was not anti-American in the sense of the American people in any way shape or form and when given a chance to explain his position position (remember, this was back when people had the capacity for honest political debates in America instead of rhetorical meme-offs) he often had the charisma and persuasiveness to win them over.

I agree that in TODAY'S POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT emulating Rockwell down to the costumes is a mistake. Back in the FUCKING 60's when he did that stuff, it worked out fine. FRANK COLLINS the controlled oposition jew is the one mostly responsible for ruining Rockwell's legacy AFTER he was already dead.

MORONS, NATIONALISM IS GOING TO BE (ACCURATELY) COMPARED TO GERMAN NATIONAL SOCIALISM BECAUSE IT WAS NATIONALIST, YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE "RUINING NATIONALISM" BY RUNNING SCREAMING FOR THE HILLS IN ABJECT TERROR WHENEVER SOMEONE (ACCURATELY) COMPARES YOUR POLITICS TO ANOTHER ETHNO-NATIONALIST POLITICAL MOVEMENT

You sound angry Rasheet.

it did not ''work out fine'' back in the 60s you moron

Im not the one ranting like a retard because I hero worship some loser

35 posts, sometimes replying twice to a single one. Constantly deflecting. Boomer tier conspiracy theories. And never once did I say I worship Hitler, I was just setting the record straight with regards to banking relations.

Agreed
Actually listening to GLR, or William Luther Peirce made infinitely more sense to me more than neo nazis from the 80s, some of the clown groups that always seem to pop up, or new age conspiracy theory crap.

Youre a faggot thats defensive about your hero
They colluded with the zionist FACT. deal with it. go salute hitler while your country is taken over and you are outbred in one generation, see if you can goose step them into stopping it, or see if they laugh at you. I dont care, faggot

it did because you know who he is. that was the entire point and he clashed with pierce over this. you see, when he wore a tie and behaved respectably nobody would listen to him. media wouldn't give him the time of day. that all changed when he put on the nazi costume and came right off the rip as a nazi. the whole point was wide exposure and he got it.

That exposure was retarded, counter productive and exactly what they wanted

They colluded with some Zionist groups that were shipping Jews to Palestine. How does that compare to Churchill literally receiving Rothschild money or the US government being co-run by kikes?

I already told you it was even worse back then, as back then people actually had parents, uncles, neighbors, friends that had been killed or maimed for life by your 'another ethno-nationalist political movement'.

>Back in the FUCKING 60's when he did that stuff, it worked out fine
It worked out great! Jews and bolsheviks took over the US without any serious opposition, but probably with the help of costumed retards who, AGAIN, evoked images of the guy who made uncle Jimmy drool and piss himself in his wheelchair at the dinner table on Thanksgiving Day.

There is no defense of "neo-nazi' LARPers, never was. Instead of stepping over these leftist attacks you choose to play their game. Just think at how much time and energy is wasted by people defending the Third Reich or doing holocaust denial, instead of actually talking about the easily observable realities of race and jewish influence in modern society.

>t.

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goodreads.com/book/show/893603.51_Documents go kill yourself dumb faggot

t. Mr (((Sephr)))

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>He fucking posted it again

No one thinks Glr was a controlled Op. Stop reposting this thread. You even admitted you were "unconvinced" either way last thread when everyone unanimously thought you were retarded.

I already said I know they shipped Jews to Palestine. Havaara agreement. Ideally Jews would have been gone from Germany, obviously that didn't happen because of the war that Britain instigated. Are you now going to reply to the fact that the Anglo elite was totally in league with kikes and the reason Britain went to war was because Germany was trying to get out of the international banking system? Also try not to get so upset on the internet.

Why do have a nazi flag on your post then?

He was literally controlled ops. and a fucking loser supported by retards like yourself, who the fuck larps around as a nazi with swastikis on a ''hate bus''?? fucking losers in controlled ops positions thats who

Im going to ride around in a hate bus and do nazi salutes and show everyone the swastika --- that will get my movement to change the country LMAO he was a faggot loser, supported by faggot losers

Can't reply to that then I guess.

are you so stupid that you can't understand WHY he chose those tactics? have you done ANY reading AT ALL about the origins of these movements in north america?
little dipshit britcuck. tuck that thing you call a cock between your legs and neck yourself, you fucking oxygen thief.

Why he choose those tactics? to look a clown.
To demonise himself to the nation that fought a war against nazis and was still fresh in the mind?
Yes I can see why he choose those tactics- he was a shill

Origins of these failed movements you mean