Are they gonna walk?

Think about it
>It's in Texas
>Aaron was a medicated, mentally ill mess
>Aaron even threw a bat at them, justifying self defence
Are they gonna get aquitted? Will this be the Zimmermann trials 2.0?

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I hope so!

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The father might, the son won't.

>Will this be the Zimmermann trials 2.0?
No, because we actually have footage of them.

The retard son will probably get locked up longer than the dad.

I hope they all walk off.
See the video. Dude was trying to homerun the father with a fucking bat. If im seeing my old man being almost hit by a 6"1er im going to fucking kill you. Because using a bat on a old man can end in death, and you have to be no doctor to know that. Dude saw a close relative get attacked by a methhead. Dude shot his face off because If I have a shotgun, dont touch my father.

Im moving to texas as soon as I can. I would buy these guys a beer.

the zimmermann trial had audio recording of zim crying out for help while he was being beaten.
for over 40 seconds of being hit and screaming.

Meth head charges at and batters your dad with a deadly weapon after screaming for 90 seconds that he was gonna kill both of you, days after police raid his house did threatening to kill a mailman and his dozens of arrests over the last year

Yeah, the son should have put his gun down and drawn in the dirt to see how this all played out
Good on ya!

they got off the moment orange retard said he was going to take their weapons and shoot them in the head with them, on top of all the other death threats he hurled their way.

yeah? you don't hear crying from these two.

They deserve medals

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He'd already been shot twice, thrown away his weapon and was moving backwards before the son blew his head apart, they've been charged differently, and thats how it will play out, I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Bruce is just mad he turned in his guns

Based

>when you bring a fucking bat to a confrontation youre guilty of threatening someones life.
>nothing boomer did after would change the obvious imbalance of power, unless he had a bat too, which he didnt.
>the presence of a bat escalated a normal neighborly dispute into a life and death situation that should have never happened. Boomer didnt die that day because he had a gun

Did we now?

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>Aaron even threw a bat at them, justifying self defence
He also threatened to murder them. . .

they were brandishing in public, clearly trying to instigate, then responded with disproportionate force

if it wasn’t caught on vidya maybe

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>they were brandishing in public, clearly trying to instigate, then responded with disproportionate force

i doubt it

wow, this meme is shit.

I doubt it

They were not brandishing you braindead zoomer faggot

This. Anyone that’s taken a concealed class would know this.

The kid's fucked, he'll be serving time for sure.

>Zimmerman 2.0
Are you serious? A nigger didnt die, I bet most people wont even hear about it and it'll be our little meme

such graceful movements

>i doubt it
when he said i doubt it, he indicated that he did not find orange shirt guy’s threat of violence plausible, removing self defense as a justification

>brandishing
Not a thing in open carry states unless you literally point the weapon at someone

sure it is, it is just charged as disorderly conduct, or as an aggravating factor in another crime(like murder)

Its hard to say.
Batman did start it by dumping trash on their land but the Jow Forumsommandos escalated everything by approaching with weapons in hand.

>Murder
Doubtful that they went out looking to blast some whiny giant faggot

The ones lebo gangs bring it don't count you anglocuck

If they don't we riot

They're illegal, unlicensed and not counted mutt.
We just not stupid enough to use them to settle neighborhood disputes, that's all, people who do have a bad time. As it should be.

>t. Melbournian cuck.

Fuck off taco nigger we're full.

I read this post in Sinamoi's voice from Dead Island.

Wasn't necessary to kill. Coulda shot him in the leg and shut him the fuck up then got him arrested. Nothing he did justifies shooting him in the head.

The Patrician Salute

T. Chicago nigger

Gtfo retard. You shoot to kill or you go to jail

>father and son change teams

KEK

>confusing police procedure with civilian self-defense

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Take a ccw class sometime

you dont shoot to kill retard its center mass and only center mass.

Where all your vital organs are... Who woulda thunk?

Why the fuck did they bring their guns out in the first place?

my guess would be to scare them off. What they weren't counting on was lunatic courage

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Scare him why?

The only bad thing about this video is that there aren't more like them coming out every day to feed my brain adrenaline

They're neighbors. They understood full well he was mental. They also knew waiving guns around and talking shit would make him snap so they could shoot him. It was premeditated murder. They knew what they were doing.

We need to raid the Skype like on the Zim trials.

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fuck I don't know as much about what happened as some anons. What is apparent is that this mattress dispute developed over some time. I'm guessing aaron threw the mattress back in the dumpster and started guarding it, also maybe was screaming at the Millers' house.

Maybe by bringing out the guns they thought it would calm down the orange guy and give them the win

I don't actually know

he was 6'7 methhead nutjob, that's why

hm. when you put it like that.... makes sense desu

>brandishing in public
This.

Open carry on their property faggot is not brandishing.
I wish these losers had shot each other up and three were dead instead of only one.

is what the prosecutors will claim.
inb4 poor cedar choppers go to jail.

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5 YEARS HAS GONE SO FAST

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Are we sure he didnt have a weapon? because in the video youtube.com/watch?v=SF2ROKpLYiY you can hear him ask for a gun at 1:56 right before saying "and that baseball bat"

also after first 2 shots, the camera swoops over the truck and you can see what looks like dust to the left of the car that are not there the next time it swipes over.

also note that there are 5 shots; the first 2 (in ground) then baseball bat is thrown, junior aim and load, 1 shot, 1 shotgun, 1 shot is heard. i cannot say if the 2 gunshots masked by the shotgun are from the same weapon or if the weapon is the same as the first 2, but it took me a while to find the 5th.

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He did throw a bat at them before he got shot, could this be their saving grace?

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imo it should be legal to put rabid dogs down at all time. waste of skin

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Ive been seeing these guys everywhere, (and haven't been on pol in a month), can someone give a quick rundown why they are a meme now?

Have another one

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took a small break from Jow Forums and i missed this
can someone give me a quick rundown?

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Two rednecks got mad at someone for dumping a matress on their communal dumpster and rendering it unpickable by garbage trucks, they went to the alley and threw it out. Dude threatens them to death, they call his bluff, he tries to kill them and the son (the one with the mustache and dark hair) shoots the wacko, everyone is outraged
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Read the thread

eat a dick
thanks andronicus

Whites killing whites. They should deserve a medal.

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Seems like the only people talking about this is /pol

>Not showing fear to an insane bully nullifies a self-defense argument.

I'm sure if they just bent over and spread their fat asses, he would have just left them alone.

decent manslaughter chance low murder chance

they shot him after he was unarmed

Voluntary manslaughter at the very least, since they seemed very calm and rational during the exchange more likely 2nd degree murder. Him throwing the bat at them could lead to voluntary manslaughter.

At the end of the day, I think it's a sad display on both sides and could have been handled with civility. A disgrace.

They're fucked because they were carrying weapons in the alley outside their property, escalating a confrontation they instigated. Texas is fucking great for gun laws, as long as you aren't an aggressive dumbshit, like these guys.

They're fucked because the only reason they stayed under threat was to continue a confrontation they instigated by illegally dumping trash on the victim's property. They're straight fucked, they've been arrested again because $25k isn't enough bond for someone everyone knows is going to prison for a long fucking time.

Go to csgpay.com to put some money on these heroes' commissary accounts. They'll walk free if they demand a trial by jury of their peers.

No, because they instigated the confrontation.

Can't be self defense, they dumped trash on his property and then approached him off their property with weapons. Literally no way a jury could see that as reasonable self defense.

They were fucked the second they didn't smash that phone, though, because the DA was softballing their case, didn't really want to spend a million incarcerating the retards, but now that the video is public, he'll have to spend every penny required to get convictions and incarcerate them.

With $25,000 bail, they could have just left the state and not showed for trial, no way Texas spends the money to extradite them, try them and jail them, but once it goes public they're fucked. Look up the number of wanted felons who just don't get extradited for rape and murder because it's too expensive. IIRC it's around 400,000 in the US right now.

Wasn't it in an alley in between those two families though? That was the offivial narrative pushed earlier....

>americans
>walk

I doubt it

>thrown away his weapon

Away right at the dads chest

No Aaron dumped trash on their property you fucking tard

Lol a white guy died. There's a reason the only press it's getting is on fucking Jow Forums.

White lives do not matter.

>police should shoot center of mass, continue to shoot until the suspect is completely incapacitated
>regular citizens should shoot for extremities/"shoot to wound", and stop as soon as the perpetrator has been moderately injured

Are you being serious right now? Jesus christ you people are dumb.
1. Pistol rounds do not incapacitate immediately unless they hit the brain or brain stem/spine. Even if they nick an artery or the heart, it will still take time for a coked-up mongoloid to lose enough blood to be incapacitated.
2. The rule in Texas is not "shoot until you see them fall"; it's "Stand your ground". There are plenty of instances of people standing their ground, shooting to kill, and walking, because the circumstances dictated it and they had reason to believe their lives were in danger.

This all comes down to how good the defense attorney is, and the specific circumstances of the court proceedings. Doubt the guys will take a plea though.

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>since they seemed very calm and rational during the exchange
why do people keep saying this?? anybody would be calm knowing they had the upper hand to a guy who was unarmed.
they knew he was a dead man when they walked out their house armed.

Alley is public, no castle doctrine.

The biggest problem is they left and got guns. If they already had the guns, they could claim they were acting in self defense and feared for their life. But, because they were able to leave and get guns instead of calling the police they were brandishing firearms in a threatening manner. They obviously didn’t fear for their lives in the video and could have backed away at any time. It wasn’t a good shooting. They could walk with the right jury if they don’t plea out but that isn’t the way to defend yourself with guns.

Things that work in their favor is that the other guy also didn’t back down, the other guy threatened to kill them, the other guy approached them in a threatening manner, and the other guy threw a bat.

Really, it’s the dumbest most easily avoidable shooting I have witnessed

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>Box and Howard had thrown the mattress in the dumpster a couple days earlier, she said. But on Sept. 1, they saw the mattress back on their property. So Howard moved it back to the dumpster. Box said Howard’s nieces, nephews and brothers were with them, too. She told the paper that she and her husband then watched the elder Miller, John, walk to the dumpster, pull the mattress out and toss it back on Howard’s property.

Other guy also being in the wrong isn't a defense when you instigate a fight and kill someone, else it would be really easy to get away with murder. Just pick a fight and do what you like once the other guy does anything remotely threatening.

They were still calm, and Aaron was a (1) stark (2) raving (3) lunatic.

The son was defending his father.
Despite the son not being as calm and rational as his father, and making some rude gestures, he was still very calm, and the son’s shotgun remained perched on his shoulders behind his head for almost the entire incident.
The son also recieved death threats and serious injury threats from the dead guy.
Dead guy specifically mentioned shooting the old man thru the head, and told someone behind the camera to get his “bb gun” so ge could put a “9” in him, and 9 is common parlance for 9mm bullet.
Dead guy also specifically said he would kill the son as well.
Old neighbor specifically told the dead guy he would shoot him if the dead guy came within three feet of him. This happened after the dead guy walked up and poked or shoved the old guys right shoulder, on the arm were the old guy was holding his pistol.
The old guy was holding a pistol, but it appeared to be a small one with a short barrel, which would not have the same effectiveness and penetration of a longer barrelled pistol.
This would explain how dead guy could throw the bat after the old guy fired two shots.
The son fired a single shotgun round after dead guy thru the bat into his fathers head.
This was a justified shooting.

>throws a bat after being shot by the gun
well since he was shot and reacted it clearly warranted the first few shots and then the after shots.
also this they were brainlet tier in their decision making, its a win for society, a mentally ill person with a long rap sheet died and the dumb hicks that are retarded also get put away

Of course but a jury of rednecks will think “aw hell nah, he threatened to kill him, u and ur pa can shoot his ass”

>tfw aaron got double dabbed before getting shot

The fathers pistol had a short barrel which can be determined by the placement of the ejection port on the slide.
The shorter the barrel, the lower the penetration capability.
The dude who got shot was tall, and muscular, and was still able to throw the bat at the father after getting shot.
The son fired within a second or so of his father being hit with the bat.