I'm 18 and I just realized I dont know anything about how the world actually works. I've had my head down, distracted by silly problems I've created, and superficial bullshit.
My friends are all slowly becoming socialists and I've resisted because it seems like socialism just hasn't ever been successful anywhere in the past.
Ive only been browsing for a week but I've noticed some of you on here seem to understand deeper functions of society, like arguments for different economic and political systems, as well as the the influence of different power structures (not just Jews as( some argue)). If any of you can point me in the direction of a good book, thread, or website that can help me quickly figure out the basics of how the world really works I'd greatly appreciate it!!
And I know.. newfag, lurk more yadayada but I cant take everyone around me arguing for socialism all the time and me not having the knowledge to push back against them.
rGood on you. most Americans are stuck in virtual world where real problems (like hunger, shelter, thirst, hard labor, war) are beyond trivial and instead stupid and superficial problems like Snapchat gossip or tranny bathrooms take precedent.
honestly I've detached from all my former friends for the most part. you have to cut the toxic parts out of your life. Focus on bettering yourself. It sucks that society pretty much leads kids into a usury trap that gets them to hate anyone with money while being absolutely controlled by them
Charles Ross
Might Is Right by Ragnar Redbeard.
Colton Jenkins
>I'm 18 and I just realized I dont know anything Congratulations, user. It takes most 18 year-olds 10-12 years to realize they don't know anything.
>how the world actually works Here's the thing: It doesn't, it just seems like it does. Anyone who tries to tell you the truth is wrong, myself included. The economy is a house of card build on lies. Politics, a puppet show to make you think you have a say. Leaders are entrenched in systems that rob them of true autonomy.
Enjoy the cacophony around here, it's all meaningless, but it's the best kind of meaningless.
Tyler Perry
>full of sound and fury, signifying nothing Yeah. Some drunken bong said it better 500 years ago.
Looks like he's the founder of satanism essentially. Doesnt seem like the sort of route I want to go down. I'm looking to be an enlightened force of god not godlessness
Aiden Fisher
Hard to find a bunch of different answers to the question at hand though if I'm just reading books. That's just one mans opinion compared to viewpoints of 30 men
Luis Lopez
Don't fall for the pagan LARP, it's all just esoteric satanism.
Oliver Johnson
"Socialism" is a huge category that means a lot of different things to different people. One thing I'd say is that socialism works very differently in different societies - due in large part to demographics. If you meet someone who supports both socialism and open borders, then you are dealing with an idiot - socialism would look like Venezuela under those conditions.
>socialism would look like Venezuela under those conditions. socialism would look like shit under any conditions.
The year was 1607. The first 104 settlers had arrived from Europe in Jamestown in the Virginia Tidewater region of the US in May. They found soil which was fertile beyond what they had seen in the lands which they had left. Fruits were abundant. Wild game such as deer and turkey were everywhere. There was no shortage of fish and other seafood. And yet within six months 66 of the original Jamestown, Virginia settlers had died. Only 38 survived.
Another 500 settlers were again sent to settle in Virginia in 1609 and within six months 440 of these too died by starvation and disease. This was called ‘starving time' and one eyewitness described it in English of those times, ‘So great was our famine, that a Savage we slew and buried, the poorer sorte took him up againe and eat him; and so did divers one another boyled and stewed with roots and herbs.'
How could this be? How could there be such death and starvation amidst so much plenty of meat, fruits, and fish. The fault as the witness said lay not in the ‘barrenness and defect of the Countrie' but in the ‘want of providence, industry and government'.
What caused this lack of ‘industrie'? Were the Virginian settlers lazy and indolent? It could not be. People who were sent there were the chosen ones – the very best of men.
Socialism is the inevitable stage of the decay of capitalism. So relax and have fun. In history, there was neither successful capitalism nor successful socialism. There were only successful epochs for some countries.
Wyatt Turner
The problem was that all the men who were sent were bonded laborers. They had no stake in what they produced. They were bound by contract to put all they produced into a common pool to be used to support their colony as a whole. This was communism in its purest form. Everyone was supposed to work according to ability and take according to need.
As so frequently happens with present day government policies, the results were the opposite of what was intended. Since hard work was not personally beneficial for the settlers they responded by working less.
Phillip A. Bruce, a late 19th century US historian, wrote of the Jamestown immigrants, “The settlers did not have even a modified interest in the soil … . Everything produced by them went into the store, in which they had no proprietorship.” The result as Bruce wrote would be what anyone who has any knowledge of human nature would expect: Men, even the most energetic and able, refused to work.
This is what happened in Mao's China and in Soviet Russia on a grand scale. In America a few hundred deaths stopped the communist experiment, in China and Russia, millions had to die before these nations abandoned the principles of Marx, Lenin, and Mao.
Jamestown changed course just two years later in 1611 with arrival of the ‘High Marshall' Sir Thomas Dale from the UK. He understood the problem and freed the settlers by abrogating communal ownership. Each man received three acres of land and, other than a lump sum tax of 2 ½ barrels of corn, did not have to contribute anything to the common pool. The colony immediately began to prosper. It prospered because each individual directly benefited by his labour and knew that he would also bear the full consequences of any reduction in output.
Socialism doesn't work because it destroys the reward and work nexus. Socialism doesn't work because the absence of property rights heralds the end of all incentive to produce.
Why isnt the drive to help your community a strong enough incentive to work?
Okay, chucks being a lazy ass. Make shame of laziness party of the towns culture and that might be fixed.
In a town of hard workers you dont feel like you're getting screwed out of anything. You feel like you're doing your part and your tribe has your back.
This website is toxic. The people here barely read and generally don't know jack shit. Half of them think Trump is a good president, a quarter think he's a good tool to advance the cause of white supremacy, and another quarter think he's a tool of the international Jewish conspiracy.
None of these things are true.
Jace Sullivan
Is that the late stage capitalism meme? Is that legit?
Jackson Gutierrez
do you have a nice tight little boypussy?
Jack Torres
Most people don’t know shit You’ll have to study a bunch of different subjects for a few years to actually understand, you can’t just read a few infographics on niggers and claim you know as much as someone that has studied history and economics for 2 decades But at least you know where you stand
Aaron Perez
The fuckery of the world originates from a group of mentally-illed people. That is how it works.
Easton Butler
>dont know how the world works >better ask pol
Aiden Lee
Capitalism always ends up that most of the wealth is accumulated by a small percentage of people. The rich always become richer. And after that, socialism becomes actual.
Justin Foster
In 50 years a white patriarchal, capitalist, representative republic; accomplished exponentially more than all of recorded human history combined.
We cut world poverty in half, we ended world wars, we increased expected life span by over 40%, we began to explore the cosmos, we created the internet, and then... we let women and immigrants vote because we wanted to help them in our limitless generosity. Then we realized it was a mistake. Have no illusions, we will correct our mistake.
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Carter Watson
Honestly, the best argument is getting out and working. You'll realize a lot of left-leaning people are inept, dependent on the state, believe in taking other people's shit, and don't like actual hard work or success. The 'successful ones' are academics at best who are essentially lazy people with no spine who enjoy making up 'ideas' to seem smart and stay in a job.
The best redpill is actually working in successful environments imo. I've read a lot of shit, the biggest redpill was working in a government call centre.
Cooper Reyes
It's good for the mind to wallow in filth at times, even just to expose yourself to thoughts and ideas you reject. Most don't know shit, true. Most also can't think and just regurgitate barely remembered facts.
Connor Thomas
Edward Bernays and Gustave Le Bon
your welcome
Luke Barnes
Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald is LITERALLY the most important book you could possibly read. Seriously. Any meaningful understanding of the modern world begins by understanding how and why it ended up in the state that it's in currently.
That's not what most people mean by "socialism." When younger people say they are socialists, they don't actually mean doctrinaire socialism. If you start sperging out on them with Mises Institute anecdotes, they will ignore you. The true redpill is that the "socialism" being sold to them is actually a very poorly-understood and emerging form of techno-corporatism with no strict boundaries between traditional "government" functions and traditional "private sector" ones.
Aiden Campbell
It's a meme and it's legit
You can see the effects of late stage capitalism in action right now as corporations lobby and bribe government actors for protectionist laws and regulations increasing the barrier-to-entry for their market, which directly reduces the competition they have to deal with.
This is evident for example, with ISP's signing exclusivity-contracts with municipal governments so that they are the only ones able to provide internet access in a given city. In places where laws prevent this kind of anti-free market action, the corporations instead spin off 2-3 smaller subsidiaries to """compete""" against themselves and give the illusion of competition and choice.
Without the government slapping corporations down, what we're getting are neo-robber barons and trusts abusing their market positions to kill competition. In the computing world we already have blatant collusion between RAM manufacturers to jack up prices without anyone doing anything about it; in the CPU and GPU realms there's only 2 real players. For internet search there's Google and basically nobody else. For video there's youtube and basically nobody else.
Jose Ross
So we're in a point in time where free market capitalism has now enabled corporations who profited from the free market idealism, to almost completely lock down and control their respective markets - and now they're further leveraging that influence in areas like politics, as can be seen with Twitter/Google/Youtube censoring political viewpoints, videos, and websites.
In combination with this, there's an expressed desire to move us towards UBI - universal basic income - such that nobody has to work anymore and we can all live in a happy-go-lucky world where everything is great (yeah right). The reality of UBI is that it's a way to control the population. Already we have payment processors shutting down people like Alex Jones. With a UBI + mass unemployment, there's little opportunity for people to earn money outside of the controlled system, and that means in the future someone like Alex Jones doesn't just get de-personed from the internet, unable to receive or send money, he outright cannot survive whatsoever as the government will no longer give him his UBI stipend.
UBI creates a dangerous situation where everyone becomes dependent on the government. As a teenager, you should know just how much control dependency gives, as you're sitting there dependent on your parents to survive.
Samuel Harris
UBI + this "free market capitalism" where corporations try to destroy competition through legal and extralegal means, leads further to a nightmare situation where the general world economy is run by and for the profits and benefits of those who 'won' this economic game and pulled the ladder up behind them. With mass media brainwashing (er, """advertising""") in addition to controlling who gets money to spend on what, AND a "free market" bereft of actual competition, we get what in effect amounts to a planned economy, where the general public is directed to spend the money given to them on the "right" products and services, creating an inefficient feedback loop where the big players ensure they never lose, no matter how ineffective, inefficient they become - they are, after all, entitled to profit.
And so, we've come full circle from Capitalism straight to Communism, just as Marx predicted. Except unlike what marx thinks, it's going to be a fucking totalitarian nightmare like we saw with stalinist regimes for the past century already, and can see the beginnings of in the west through esteemed corporations like Google/Alphabet.
tl;dr Capitalism is slowly morphing into Global Communism You will live and die a slave Society will eventually collapse due to the inefficiences created by power-players unilaterally deciding they deserve profit no matter the impact it has on society at large (e.g. they will rob the public blind to fund their fuckups - already happened in 2008 with the bank bailouts)
Aiden Morales
>The best redpill is actually working in successful environments imo. I've read a lot of shit, the biggest redpill was working in a government call centre.
This is absolutely true. The biggest uni leftists I knew turned to the right I know once they became qualified solicitors and started seeing 40% of their income going to taxes.
Mason Robinson
>that last line so, postmodernism, right?
Colton Bennett
>wealth of nations >any calculus textbook >Anything by Ludwug Von Mises >Anything by Julius Evola.
Understand apathy my young friend, and avoid it. Understand where beauty came from, where math came from, and the sciences. Workout and wrap yourself in a cocoon and read books. This place will turn you into an autistic sperglord or a well adjusted traditionalist conservatarian. Once you have your intelligence maximized, and you know philosophy and economics - make these decisions for yourself.
Thomas Cooper
most of pol are National Socailists (nazis). they dont understand economics at all lmao
the natsoc economic model scares the jew more than anything. natsoc germany was the first country to make it out of the great depression despite the conditions laid out during the wiemar era.
Yeah, so that part about indigenous North American people nearly hunting large domesticable animals to extinction is complete and utter bullshit. Kentucky was a game preserve for all the tribes East of the Mississippi. The bison herds were so large that they took DAYS to pass.
The serpent mound in Ohio is the one of the most sophisticated earthworks ever created.
Get your shit together.
Nolan Jackson
The Iroquios had a Senate, comprising of Representatives of the member nations. It was a representative democracy: A REPUBLIC.
the Council of the Shawnee and their allies worked much the same way.
