Should there be a cap on foreign students? Should you be able to bring your spouse with you? What about your kids? Should wealthy people be able to pay for a residency visa?
Or should it just be skills that matter?
Here in Germany we basically have 2 immigration sources - illegal ones from Central Asia and the Middle East (and a few Africans) making up 25 percent of migration and 70 percent EU migration, mostly from the East and Balkans. The other 5 percent come from Japan, China, Canada, the US etc.
Only European immigrants can immigrate. All illegals get deported. And there’s at least 35 white only states
Alexander Wilson
Isn’t this against the US constitution?
Hunter Hughes
I'd like to see total freeze on Immigration for a minimum of 12 months while we figure out what to do with all of the illegals that live among us. I say kick them out, but that's not practical or realistic.
Many seem to think that we should target highly skilled high-IQ candidates as a starting point. I think the starting point should be an assessment of need (by skill level, field of experience etc.)
I see a grave danger in favoring high-iq cultures as they change our societal norms through their behavior. Too many chinks for instance will irreparably crush office morale, every single time. It seems petty but having some morale at the place you spend so much time at is taken for granted, then suddenly it's gone and it sucks.
These high iq migrants are seriously gaining substantial numbers within many professional fields. The irony is that they're considered protected classes and firms love pumping up those metrics, which results in Pajeet literally having an easier time landing a competitive position than a Citizen.
Brayden Hall
>You have to go back.
Elijah Foster
No
Jaxson White
Did you know US banned jewish migration in 1920s?
Jace Young
Pretty much the opposite. It wasn’t until many ammendants were made after the original constitution that nonwhites were allowed in the country
>I say kick them out, but that's not practical or realistic.
What I never got is why they can do spot checks in the subway for tickets, but they cannot check anyone for IDs to round up all the illegals. How come?
Easton Brown
Immigration is inevitable. The problem is that when we became these big nations we separated from one another. We see people behind an imaginary line as enemies. Most of the time. If we globally took care of each other better we wouldn't have impoverished countries right behind the border. This is a naive statement on purpose. Trying to be hyperbolic to prove a point.
Immigration will always happen. I think it is good for all countries to allow it to continue. Don't overregulated, but make sure people who cross the border and want to become part of your amazing nation are doing it properly. If they are escaping disasters, there needs to be check ups. Health checks. Mental check up etc. that kind of thing and then orientation for work.
It might become too expensive to do that, but the alternative is to wall up dirt and fantasize that it works. No wall will really work for America. The border is just too big and the amount of money constant surveillance requires you might as well be burning all that money, or invest it in what I stated earlier.
Julian Gutierrez
>only non-whites are japs and illegals >somehow germany is still 10-15% non-white
Damn that's a lot of illegals
Jackson Morales
>Should there be a cap on foreign students? Yes. Education of fellow countrymen has priority.
>Should you be able to bring your spouse with you? Yes, so that you would fuck her instead of raping locals.
>What about your kids? Fuck foreign kids. Kids are net negative. Only on local kids should be resources be spent.
>Should wealthy people be able to pay for a residency visa? Yes, for temporary, non transferable residence.
Joshua Cooper
Unironically because the Jewish ACLU and Lolbergtarians like Rand Paul would unite to autistically screech about how it "violates freedumbs", because libertarians are disgusting fucktard useful idiots used by jewish communists to subvert society so they can eventually remove freedom entirely and lolbergs are too retarded to see that.
Carter Evans
>>somehow germany is still 10-15% non-white How do you get to this figure. 10% would be 8.5 million, 15% would be 13 million. We only have 20 million people with a migration background, the vast majority are from Europe and Volksdeutsche from the Soviet Union.
Carson Martin
Here in Germany, I have to show my ID if I don't have a ticket on a train or in the subway... or they call the police so I will have to be identified on a police station.
So that is ok, but checking for illegals is not?
Jayden Watson
Immigration policy is a moving target, Hans. There is no "best", just what fits the needs at present and ideally into the near future. Unfortunately because Germans forgot how to not use a condom sometime in the 1970s, y'all are fucked.
If you have a white ethnostate, it's not hard to keep shitskins out. They're called "visible minorities" for a reason. Require a visa at all times for visitors, and if someone is caught without it, they're expelled. If they are caught without a visa twice (i.e. expelled but they come back in), they will be shot.
Nu-lolbergs are like that, but the more redpilled and Hoppean ones aren't, and there are more of the latter on Jow Forums. Ron Paul, for example, said that the (((Civil Rights Act))) was trash, and he was right. In almost every poll here, it ends up being a 50/50 split between NatSoc and libertarians, but in a separate poll, between white nationalism and civic nationalism, the former got 86% support. So clearly, a majority of our libertarian friends are on board, autistic as they can be sometimes.
>infinite growth meme Die in a fire, kike.
Thomas Price
All immigration is shit, the best policy is GDPists like you getting enslaved to work for the rest of society to bulk up that GDP you love so much.
Wyatt Moore
This is simple. Remove welfare state and government handouts and immigration will solve itself.
Matthew Perry
And yet Rand Paul spends half his time fellating niggers because he thinks nogs are interested in snek memes and gunz instead of getting free shit from the gubmint
Austin Martin
Why would the US constitution protect noncitizens?
Aiden Young
Welfare state didn't exist in Apartheid south africa and nigs were segregated into their own niggerhoods yet all efforts to make them fuck off didn't work
Your libertarian memes about shitskins only being here for the gibs vastly underestimate the standards to which shitskins consider to be "better" than where they came from.
Logan Gutierrez
What about that demographics chart suggests infinite anything to you, faggot?
How the fuck are 25 million non-retirees supposed to take care of 55 million retirees? How is anything supposed to get done, and I don't mean economic labor, I mean fucking anything.
Jace Ross
We should be talking about how many we send back
Nicholas Rivera
THANK GOD IT IS GOING BACK!
Joseph Cook
there should be no immigration the meme about "highly-trained" turd world garbage is a flat out lie you won't find shit in the turd world other than subhumans the turd world is everything east of austria btw
Thomas Bailey
underrated
Jace Morales
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Aaron Sanchez
As I said, nu-lolbergs. They're basically equivalent to modern christcucks that attack whites and import niggers in an effort to stay relevant (because who would have thought, shitskins don't really care about muh freedomz). The suggestion that population decline is the end of the world and should not only be avoided at all costs but remedied by importing foreigners is thoroughly Jewish. >How the fuck are 25 million non-retirees supposed to take care of 55 million retirees? It's not as hard as you'd think, especially with automation. Take food supply, for example--in Western countries, farming occupies under 3% of the population, and basic manufacturing is already near-fully automated.
Parker Bailey
I never said it was the end of the world; it might be the end of Germany, but I can't say I give a shit about the demise of the eternal Kraut.
>It's not as hard as you'd think, especially with automation. Take food supply, for example--in Western countries, farming occupies under 3% of the population, and basic manufacturing is already near-fully automated.
I hope you're right, but I think you're a moron.
Jackson Diaz
It's funny I didn't even mention race at all. I don't want to argue about that because I believe there are differences in IQ and race. But education doesn't require massive IQ. Just a lot of work and dedication. Just look at how many Americans go through a college degree like it's a fantastic accomplishment. Go ahead and compare that level of education to what is available in other countries and you'll instantly realize it mounts up to nothing at all.
Americas education system is rigged for the rich and designed to keep the poor in shitty jobs. You go into debt instantly when starting off and then spend the rest of your time boozing it up and wasting valuable time. The job market is heavily reliant on connections and most places don't even want to hire freshly graduated people, because their expectations are completely skewed in some fields.
My point is that your education system heavily fucks with blacks and other minorities, especially illegal immigrants. Your entire system gates them to have no opportunity at all, because you can't gain an education without some wealth to begin with. This is insane. I don't want to talk about nigger culture here, I know what it is like. You guys enslaved those chimps so this is what you have to deal with. Live with it. But know that even blacks can become educated and learn a trade. It's the damn racism from both sides though that slows those cogs.
Blacks give up on themselves very quickly when they victimize themselves. "What's the point? Whitey is right. I can't do shit."
Also I don't know what niggers have to do with immigration. Niggers are part of America. You can't deny this. You best start living with that fact that America is the birth place of the current generation niggaboo. The thug guy wanna be, who chimps out in social media. Look at famous black YouTubers. They all chimp out and overreact to everything. Because:
>Whitey loves it
Luke Bennett
> But education doesn't require massive IQ. Just a lot of work and dedication. It requires both. If you have a room-temperature IQ, you will never be able to learn anything beyond the most simple tasks. And it just so happens that almost half of all American blacks are functionally retarded. >My point is that your education system heavily fucks with blacks and other minorities, especially illegal immigrants. You have no fucking clue how our education system doesn't work. They constantly lower the standards so shitskins can pass, and in the process they drag whites down both directly through admissions and indirectly through decreased learning. In my area, a whole county was busted for artificially inflating niggers' test scores so they could pass. >illegal immigrants My uni literally has a fund that goes to these leeches. They come to a country illegally, get in because of affirmative action, and then get money thrown at them because their parents didn't follow the law. >You guys enslaved those chimps so this is what you have to deal with I didn't enslave anyone, my family wasn't even here until long after slavery ended. In fact, many abolitionists opposed slavery on the grounds that it undercut white labor in a white country. It was literally just the rich plantation owners and banker kikes that wanted slavery, so don't slap this shit on me or whites as a whole. >It's the damn racism from both sides though that slows those cogs. What cogs? I prefer blood to dollars. >Niggers are part of America. I have no attachment to this country, certainly not to the monstrosity it's become. I want to Balkanize. And while they were technically part of it, they were kept separate for far longer than they've been treated as identical to whites.
Connor Perez
Accept only highly educated (college or higher, diploma cheking with some kind of exams), no family reunions, no spouses, no kids. For students - accept only ppl with highest avg scores.
Cameron Hill
Our education system isn't any better in raising low iq shitskins to good jobs.. Nor is Sweden's or anyones in Europe. Is there even a country that has as much help for shitskins as Sweden? And even then the new generations aren't any different to the unemployed old ones.
Tyler Perry
>If you have a room-temperature IQ, you will never be able to learn anything beyond the most simple tasks. Most education in the world doesn't require any kind of high IQ. You're seriously mistaken if you think basic college degrees are somehow only something smart people can do. >You have no fucking clue how our education system doesn't work. Pretty sure I do. There's people online talking about. Numerous studies on the subject too and I have my own countries education system to compare it to. You guys are fucked and the oppression of the poor is very real in America. >My uni literally has a fund that goes to these leeches. I'm sure it's for legal migrants but you are twisting the truth to serve your narrative. Those funds are needed, even if you think they aren't. Do tell me how a fresh 18 year old immigrant is supposed to be able to pay for a bloated education somehow. I can wait, user. >I didn't enslave anyone Are you an American? Then yes you did. >What cogs? I prefer blood to dollars. Explain your rhetoric and I'll do the same if it is that hard to understand. >I have no attachment to this country Yet you talk about it a hell of a lot. I'd love to move abroad myself, but it ain't easy because it ain't cheap. A lot of money is needed in everything and you will agree to this. Yet somehow when poverished minorities cannot afford basic education even, it's now somehow an issue.
That hatred you have could be misdirected in something amazing. Don't hurt yourself out there trying to prove to the world how much of a different thinker you are though.