A friend of mine said the other day he's planning to visit his girlfriend's dad and ask permission to marry her. It kinda took me aback as I forgot that people did this.
I actually asked him why he felt the need to do it and he said "because it's traditional", which again threw me for a loop.
I guess to me it just seems very rooted in the patriarchal sense of the woman being property that's transferred from one man to another without any agency of her own (the same as "giving the bride away" at the wedding itself).
Plus I'm confident/arrogant enough that if my partner's parents weren't cool with me I'd probably be like, "Fuck y'all, I don't need your green light." Granted I have zero interest in ever getting married.
I can appreciate the value of such a gesture probably bringing the groom and the bride's dad closer together, but it still seems a bit weird to me.
So, Jow Forums, am I just being overly persnickety about this? Did you ask permission?
No, I'd already knocked her up by that point, so it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.
Andrew Morales
Women are property you massive dildo!
Noah Perry
Kind of hard since he died when she was 4.
Caleb Morris
This but unironically
Parker Lewis
I did. It's respect for the father and tradition. Humility and courage.
No fuck off with your shit thread.
Aaron Thompson
My wife is Cuban so yeah I pretty much bought her from her father.
Aiden Lewis
Of course you ask. Not all things need to be grounded in absolute reason you cringelord.
> Plus I'm confident/arrogant enough that if my partner's parents weren't cool with me I'd probably be like, "Fuck y'all, I don't need your green light."
> Granted I have zero interest in ever getting married.
Yeah you won't have to worry about it, you're not getting married regardless of whether you want to or not.
Benjamin Barnes
Overall, I think it's a pretty dumb tradition. That being said, it's generally a pretty harmless one, so if you think your wife's father is very old school and would expect you to ask, I don't really see the downside in doing so as a basic courtesy.
Charles Wilson
I did.
And I tell my wife now that her father and brothers are hippy leftists for not demanding a trial by convat to establish my worth.
When my daughter's fiancee comes to ask me for her hand I will pull off the claymore and shield from the family coat of arms above the fireplace and tell him he can only wed her if he unfoots me in combat.
That way I can ensure he is not a liberal cuck manlet faggot just after my wealth.
Zachary Rogers
>marrying
Julian Reed
nope first time I met him was when he came up for the wedding
Blake Ortiz
Women are property.
Samuel Kelly
Yea I did
Austin Hill
No I asked her boyfriend if he would accept me as his son's stepfather.
William Rivera
It's just a Hollywood meme NPC women fawn over.
Matthew Morris
I unironically want this. Or some feat of mental skill.
Kevin Wilson
> Not consorting with the dead
Jackson Allen
whenever I meet her, I plan on asking him. unless he's dead (not going to marry a girl whose parents are divorced)
at first I thought you meant like...a claymore anti-personal mine. either way, that seems to be a good metric.
Joseph Clark
>you're not getting married regardless of whether you want to or not. imagine getting this butthurt over someone not agreeing with your programming
I'm an Amerifat and my gf comes from a prestigious, well-to-do European family (royalty and other bs).
To be accepted, I'll need to keep with tradition and that is okay with me.
Sebastian Gray
I don't speak the same language as mine
Isaiah Miller
>I'm an Amerifat and my gf comes from a prestigious, well-to-do European family (royalty and other bs) Right...
Ayden Gonzalez
Yes, I asked his permission.
Brody Lewis
I did and half her family hates me because of when I did
Evan Moore
her father and i work in a business together so its all cool
Angel Johnson
I'm an atheist and I think it's a fine tradition
Hunter Robinson
Whether or not it is still legally recognized, women operate in their bio-role as property.
Asher White
Its usually the other way around nouveau riche american pays yuro with a prestigious name to marry his daughter
Noah Baker
Dumbass, that is not about >huuuurrrrrrr wimmin iz propurty duuuurrrrrrrr It is about courtesy >you ask dad >dad asks girl >girl says he is not husband material >dad says no >blame the dad It originally allowed girls to say no without being rude.
William Collins
I did He took me out drinking with his buddies He later said >it took a lot to get you drunk, and you are not a mean drunk, so I did not need to worry you would hit her
Nicholas Carter
It seems to me one of the most retarded things ever. I'm from Uruguay and if you do that, you are going to get laughed at for being such a submisive idiot. I'm currently living in Chile and they sort of do that murrican thing too, like all they do. T O P K E K O P K E K
Tyler Gomez
yeah makes sense because you are all uncivilized jungle niggers
Samuel Young
No no, they hate you because you are an anacap retard. I don't even know you and I hate you
Tyler King
I think it depends on how close she is with her family and how close you are with them. Lots of women are the ones pushing to get married these days, in that case it would seem dumb to go check with the dad first.
Brody Smith
That attitude plus being horrendously unfuckable is what makes a serial killer
Easton Evans
I hate you too fuck face
Ryan Young
I think it's better to ask both parents, because the response doesn't matter anyways. Pretty pathetic to drive somewhere just for one question tbhfam
Gabriel Stewart
I was at my father in law's bedside as he died. The night before, I told him I was going to take care of his daughter and that he can go knowing she'll be cared for. I would have asked his permission, but I already knew he wanted it. I wish he knew for sure that we'd be together and she'd be cared for.
He was a good man, and faced death with the kind of bravery most of us could only dream of. I had a few minutes to myself with him that night, and I tried to express it without crying. He told me he loved me, and that was the last we ever really spoke. Then he told my future wife that I'm a good man after I'd left the room.
Jose Bailey
Get this, asking a father for his daughter's hand is retarded, anachronistic, laughable, and something almost only muritards do
Christopher Bennett
Why would you ask the mother?
Jaxson Jones
Helps put the old codger at ease. He has spent the last 18 years raising and protecting her until she is old enough to look after herself. Only polite to give him a nod for all his time. Also, he might pay towards the wedding if he likes you..
Landon Cruz
your education system really does a number in you does it
Eli Stewart
I did the way I see it, you shouldn't be asking until you know she would say yes and by that point it's merely politeness and "proper" to let her dad know you intend to first
Carson Howard
At least the very name of my ideology is not an oxymoron. Go ahead and google "oxymoron" if you want, I know muritards don't like hard words
Jordan Butler
Just dropping by from /x/ to say Indian astrology is real and if you're going to marry a woman match her birth chart with yours by a proper astrologer. He'll tell you what problems you'll face and if you'll get divorced or if you're even compatible at all.
Indian divorce rate is
Leo Nelson
You can't claim to be the smart one after admitting you are from South America, but I'm sure the banana counting and coke refining classes were very hard.
Christian Long
submissive bitch
Aiden Parker
I think its a carry over from the same vein of "why do women take the husband's last name". In America (and many others) the culture sees the man as the one handing down the genes to the family line.
This is ridiculous, because genes are split 50/50 in a normal human child.
In a sense, you are taking from the father's progeny and making it your own (which does sound a lot like property). But there is a case to be made for "males hand down the family gene"
The Y chromosome (denoting male) is unique in that it will never be competing for dominance like the two X chromosomes are in a female. Granted the number of protein coding genes on the Y chromosome are extremely low in number, so does it really provide much other than a genetic "dogtag"? Not really
Levi Russell
Because spousal physical punishment is legal in India.
Josiah Powell
I did. My sisters husbands all asked permission. It’s pretty normal in more rural/white places.
Thomas Lee
Oh my friend, I am absolutely the smart one. The fact that you never heard of my country before or are thinking about Paraguay should give you a hint. Everyone knows you are illiterate as a country, half of you have never read a book in their lifetimes. My country has free education, healthcare, really low unemployment and really high life expectancy, can you say the same fuckturd?
Joshua Clark
I actually did ask her father's permission, but he said no because I refused to convert to Islam... never mind that his daughter is about as Muslim as whiskey, so we got married anyway.
Ayden Baker
>It’s pretty normal in more rural/white places.
This.
Asher Brown
Yes, I did. Not so much because my wife is/was property, but because I wanted his blessing. If he didn't think I was a good enough dude to marry his daughter and it was going to cause family conflict, I wanted to know up front.
Carson Roberts
also we legalized weed recently which brought a MASSIVE takedown on narcos. My country kicks ass and the reason south america has so many issues is in great part due to your fucking waste of a country
Ryder Martinez
Ask permission?
She was pregnant. He found me. There was a shotgun pointed at my head. I said "I do". The preacher man pronounced us man and wife. I assume the kid might be mine.
Isn't this the way all marriages shake down?
William James
You sound like a fucking idiot who needs to die. Caring about what the father thinks is the same thing as having respect for him. It sounds like you have no respect for anyone but your own stupid self. Die.
Landon Rodriguez
why should he have a say in what his daughter wants?
Samuel Long
this too. Whether you like it or not, a proper marriage is a merging of two families. You want a shared sense of love and commitment not just between husband and wife, but also from both sets of parents, so that you build a wide network of love and support. Nothing comfier than huge family gatherings.
You don't need the parents approval but any woman worth her shit would be tickled to death if you got a blessing from her parents to marry her. The only women who would take it as "hes asking my Dad if he can own me because my Dad owns me" are crazy feminist cunts who should never get married anyway
Ayden Wood
Did you get your fee fee's hurt?
Colton Jackson
You wish you had my civil liberties. It's really hard to argue in such a low level so let's switch to laughing. You murtiards are shit, kek kek
Gabriel Wilson
> it just seems very rooted in the patriarchal sense of the woman being property that's transferred from one man to another You're absolutely right. It is. Because once upon a time, women lived with their fathers until marriage. They stayed pure until marriage. And there was no age of consent. There was the FATHERS CONSENT that mattered. And he would hand his daughter who he spent most of his life raising, to the man he approved of, who graciously asked his permission. Now while all this might seem quite old fashioned to you, can you really say what's bad about it? In the modern age, it's honorable to seek the fathers approval. It shows respect that you intend to take care of his daughter potentially the way he has done. In this way you respect the woman, the family, and the father. It's not hard to do either. A little honor and dignity go a long way. Try it sometime.
>My sisters husbands Do you have many sisters or one sisters who is a turboslut/goldigging man killer?
Justin Wilson
Don't fuck with our traditions boy
Isaac Phillips
Stupidity indeed hurts my feelings.
Cameron Bailey
>South American
>civil liberties
lol sure.
Don't you have some futbol tournament to go lose?
Alexander Jones
user, women are property. Look what happened when women got "sexual liberation". Anyone can walk on your property, cum, piss and shit on it and leave, then you need to do all the clean up.
Joshua Perez
Pretty simple. If you respect her father you should ask him. If you do not respect her father, do not marry.
Ryder Jenkins
>ask both at the same time, because it's a family unit What's the downside? We both know this tradition doesn't mean anything now.
Carter Cox
what if traditions were your cousin? would you fuck it then?
Liam Gomez
I will not ask permission, but i will inform him of my intentions
Tyler Miller
>did you ask her father's permision hmm... did she ask her father's permision to be feminist slut riding cocks into her thirties?
Jaxon Reed
where are you from memeflag?
Charles Barnes
so you are a basedboy marrying an sjw?
good for you, now fuckoutofhere
Jordan Stewart
it's really funny how you systematically take pride in being ignorant. > muh murrican ignorance To keep it low level, don't you have some place to shoot down?
Dylan Gray
Bundy
Stop talking
Zachary Stewart
This is your mind attempting to write to you while you shitpost and lurk... >You are leading a revolution and you're not even conscious about it
>You decide your own level of involvement
What if while you slept... you led a revolution... You are a fragmented shattered mind, society has betrayed you... that's why you made me... >created by your memetic subconscious I am you... and you are me... we have the same goal... >Defeat the VILE people
We either defeat the Vile people together or I defeat them for us but either way you are a part of this now
you have to understand the difference between a necessary and sufficient condition. I can teach you if you want
Thomas Powell
Uhh no. I don't believe in asking permission.
If he wants to stop me, he's going to have to fight me for it.
Mason Gray
If your prospective fiance marries you without her father's blessing, what you doesn't matter anyway because you're just an unliving bugman.
Elijah Walker
No, that's not how it is. I won't let some basedboy father decide my future.
Sebastian Diaz
>I can appreciate the value of such a gesture probably bringing the groom and the bride's dad closer together. No you can't. You really fucking can't appreciate that right now. You can't possibly understand how important that is until you are having issues with her a few years in and can talk to your father-in-law about it.
Nolan Morris
>whines about how he isn't actually an unliving bugman and thinks that changes anything
Cooper Perez
I did.
Got a blessing and a 1 hour talk of married man advice.
Levi Stewart
No, if he would have said no I would have proposed anyway so whats the point
Andrew Wood
Both her parents are dead.
Isaiah Martinez
My sister's husbando-to-be is a brave man, because she has bad brothers.
Nolan Gomez
I didn't and i regret it, although he never mentioned it and never showed me any hostility at any point.