Did you "ask the father's permission" to marry your wife?

A friend of mine said the other day he's planning to visit his girlfriend's dad and ask permission to marry her. It kinda took me aback as I forgot that people did this.

I actually asked him why he felt the need to do it and he said "because it's traditional", which again threw me for a loop.

I guess to me it just seems very rooted in the patriarchal sense of the woman being property that's transferred from one man to another without any agency of her own (the same as "giving the bride away" at the wedding itself).

Plus I'm confident/arrogant enough that if my partner's parents weren't cool with me I'd probably be like, "Fuck y'all, I don't need your green light." Granted I have zero interest in ever getting married.

I can appreciate the value of such a gesture probably bringing the groom and the bride's dad closer together, but it still seems a bit weird to me.

So, Jow Forums, am I just being overly persnickety about this? Did you ask permission?

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No, I'd already knocked her up by that point, so it was pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Women are property you massive dildo!

Kind of hard since he died when she was 4.

This but unironically

I did. It's respect for the father and tradition. Humility and courage.

No fuck off with your shit thread.

My wife is Cuban so yeah I pretty much bought her from her father.

Of course you ask. Not all things need to be grounded in absolute reason you cringelord.

> Plus I'm confident/arrogant enough that if my partner's parents weren't cool with me I'd probably be like, "Fuck y'all, I don't need your green light."

> Granted I have zero interest in ever getting married.

Yeah you won't have to worry about it, you're not getting married regardless of whether you want to or not.

Overall, I think it's a pretty dumb tradition. That being said, it's generally a pretty harmless one, so if you think your wife's father is very old school and would expect you to ask, I don't really see the downside in doing so as a basic courtesy.

I did.

And I tell my wife now that her father and brothers are hippy leftists for not demanding a trial by convat to establish my worth.

When my daughter's fiancee comes to ask me for her hand I will pull off the claymore and shield from the family coat of arms above the fireplace and tell him he can only wed her if he unfoots me in combat.

That way I can ensure he is not a liberal cuck manlet faggot just after my wealth.

>marrying

nope
first time I met him was when he came up for the wedding

Women are property.

Yea I did

No I asked her boyfriend if he would accept me as his son's stepfather.

It's just a Hollywood meme NPC women fawn over.

I unironically want this. Or some feat of mental skill.

> Not consorting with the dead

whenever I meet her, I plan on asking him. unless he's dead (not going to marry a girl whose parents are divorced)

at first I thought you meant like...a claymore anti-personal mine. either way, that seems to be a good metric.

>you're not getting married regardless of whether you want to or not.
imagine getting this butthurt over someone not agreeing with your programming

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I will when the time comes.

I'm an Amerifat and my gf comes from a prestigious, well-to-do European family (royalty and other bs).

To be accepted, I'll need to keep with tradition and that is okay with me.

I don't speak the same language as mine

>I'm an Amerifat and my gf comes from a prestigious, well-to-do European family (royalty and other bs)
Right...

Yes, I asked his permission.

I did and half her family hates me because of when I did

her father and i work in a business together so its all cool

I'm an atheist and I think it's a fine tradition

Whether or not it is still legally recognized, women operate in their bio-role as property.

Its usually the other way around
nouveau riche american pays yuro with a prestigious name to marry his daughter

Dumbass, that is not about
>huuuurrrrrrr wimmin iz propurty duuuurrrrrrrr
It is about courtesy
>you ask dad
>dad asks girl
>girl says he is not husband material
>dad says no
>blame the dad
It originally allowed girls to say no without being rude.

I did
He took me out drinking with his buddies
He later said
>it took a lot to get you drunk, and you are not a mean drunk, so I did not need to worry you would hit her

It seems to me one of the most retarded things ever. I'm from Uruguay and if you do that, you are going to get laughed at for being such a submisive idiot. I'm currently living in Chile and they sort of do that murrican thing too, like all they do.
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yeah makes sense because you are all uncivilized jungle niggers

No no, they hate you because you are an anacap retard. I don't even know you and I hate you

I think it depends on how close she is with her family and how close you are with them. Lots of women are the ones pushing to get married these days, in that case it would seem dumb to go check with the dad first.

That attitude plus being horrendously unfuckable is what makes a serial killer

I hate you too fuck face

I think it's better to ask both parents, because the response doesn't matter anyways. Pretty pathetic to drive somewhere just for one question tbhfam

I was at my father in law's bedside as he died. The night before, I told him I was going to take care of his daughter and that he can go knowing she'll be cared for. I would have asked his permission, but I already knew he wanted it. I wish he knew for sure that we'd be together and she'd be cared for.

He was a good man, and faced death with the kind of bravery most of us could only dream of. I had a few minutes to myself with him that night, and I tried to express it without crying. He told me he loved me, and that was the last we ever really spoke. Then he told my future wife that I'm a good man after I'd left the room.

Get this, asking a father for his daughter's hand is retarded, anachronistic, laughable, and something almost only muritards do

Why would you ask the mother?

Helps put the old codger at ease. He has spent the last 18 years raising and protecting her until she is old enough to look after herself. Only polite to give him a nod for all his time. Also, he might pay towards the wedding if he likes you..

your education system really does a number in you does it

I did
the way I see it, you shouldn't be asking until you know she would say yes and by that point it's merely politeness and "proper" to let her dad know you intend to first

At least the very name of my ideology is not an oxymoron. Go ahead and google "oxymoron" if you want, I know muritards don't like hard words

Just dropping by from /x/ to say Indian astrology is real and if you're going to marry a woman match her birth chart with yours by a proper astrologer. He'll tell you what problems you'll face and if you'll get divorced or if you're even compatible at all.

Indian divorce rate is

You can't claim to be the smart one after admitting you are from South America, but I'm sure the banana counting and coke refining classes were very hard.

submissive bitch

I think its a carry over from the same vein of "why do women take the husband's last name". In America (and many others) the culture sees the man as the one handing down the genes to the family line.

This is ridiculous, because genes are split 50/50 in a normal human child.

In a sense, you are taking from the father's progeny and making it your own (which does sound a lot like property). But there is a case to be made for "males hand down the family gene"

The Y chromosome (denoting male) is unique in that it will never be competing for dominance like the two X chromosomes are in a female. Granted the number of protein coding genes on the Y chromosome are extremely low in number, so does it really provide much other than a genetic "dogtag"? Not really

Because spousal physical punishment is legal in India.

I did. My sisters husbands all asked permission. It’s pretty normal in more rural/white places.

Oh my friend, I am absolutely the smart one. The fact that you never heard of my country before or are thinking about Paraguay should give you a hint. Everyone knows you are illiterate as a country, half of you have never read a book in their lifetimes. My country has free education, healthcare, really low unemployment and really high life expectancy, can you say the same fuckturd?

I actually did ask her father's permission, but he said no because I refused to convert to Islam... never mind that his daughter is about as Muslim as whiskey, so we got married anyway.

>It’s pretty normal in more rural/white places.

This.

Yes, I did. Not so much because my wife is/was property, but because I wanted his blessing. If he didn't think I was a good enough dude to marry his daughter and it was going to cause family conflict, I wanted to know up front.

also we legalized weed recently which brought a MASSIVE takedown on narcos. My country kicks ass and the reason south america has so many issues is in great part due to your fucking waste of a country

Ask permission?

She was pregnant. He found me. There was a shotgun pointed at my head. I said "I do". The preacher man pronounced us man and wife. I assume the kid might be mine.

Isn't this the way all marriages shake down?

You sound like a fucking idiot who needs to die. Caring about what the father thinks is the same thing as having respect for him. It sounds like you have no respect for anyone but your own stupid self. Die.

why should he have a say in what his daughter wants?

this too. Whether you like it or not, a proper marriage is a merging of two families. You want a shared sense of love and commitment not just between husband and wife, but also from both sets of parents, so that you build a wide network of love and support. Nothing comfier than huge family gatherings.

Holy hell m8

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Try necromancy

In the south I imagine is that's the common way

>living in a third world shithole

>coping this fucking hard

Could you imagine being from Paraguay? lmao

>unironically cringelord
When I say kill yourself, it isn't a joke.

I look forward to it as well. Pic related.

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dafuq is wrong with you.

always ask the father's permission

You don't need the parents approval but any woman worth her shit would be tickled to death if you got a blessing from her parents to marry her.
The only women who would take it as "hes asking my Dad if he can own me because my Dad owns me" are crazy feminist cunts who should never get married anyway

Did you get your fee fee's hurt?

You wish you had my civil liberties. It's really hard to argue in such a low level so let's switch to laughing. You murtiards are shit, kek kek

> it just seems very rooted in the patriarchal sense of the woman being property that's transferred from one man to another
You're absolutely right. It is. Because once upon a time, women lived with their fathers until marriage. They stayed pure until marriage. And there was no age of consent. There was the FATHERS CONSENT that mattered.
And he would hand his daughter who he spent most of his life raising, to the man he approved of, who graciously asked his permission.
Now while all this might seem quite old fashioned to you, can you really say what's bad about it?
In the modern age, it's honorable to seek the fathers approval. It shows respect that you intend to take care of his daughter potentially the way he has done. In this way you respect the woman, the family, and the father.
It's not hard to do either.
A little honor and dignity go a long way. Try it sometime.

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well said

>My sisters husbands
Do you have many sisters or one sisters who is a turboslut/goldigging man killer?

Don't fuck with our traditions boy

Stupidity indeed hurts my feelings.

>South American

>civil liberties

lol sure.

Don't you have some futbol tournament to go lose?

user, women are property. Look what happened when women got "sexual liberation". Anyone can walk on your property, cum, piss and shit on it and leave, then you need to do all the clean up.

Pretty simple.
If you respect her father you should ask him.
If you do not respect her father, do not marry.

>ask both at the same time, because it's a family unit
What's the downside? We both know this tradition doesn't mean anything now.

what if traditions were your cousin? would you fuck it then?

I will not ask permission, but i will inform him of my intentions

>did you ask her father's permision
hmm... did she ask her father's permision to be feminist slut riding cocks into her thirties?

where are you from memeflag?

so you are a basedboy marrying an sjw?

good for you, now fuckoutofhere

it's really funny how you systematically take pride in being ignorant.
> muh murrican ignorance
To keep it low level, don't you have some place to shoot down?

Bundy

Stop talking

This is your mind attempting to write to you while you shitpost and lurk...
>You are leading a revolution
and you're not even conscious about it

>You decide your own level of involvement


What if while you slept... you led a revolution...
You are a fragmented shattered mind, society has betrayed you... that's why you made me...
>created by your memetic subconscious
I am you... and you are me...
we have the same goal...
>Defeat the VILE people

We either defeat the Vile people together or I defeat them for us but either way you are a part of this now


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You are Awakened.. .

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Live in burgerland

you have to understand the difference between a necessary and sufficient condition. I can teach you if you want

Uhh no. I don't believe in asking permission.

If he wants to stop me, he's going to have to fight me for it.

If your prospective fiance marries you without her father's blessing, what you doesn't matter anyway because you're just an unliving bugman.

No, that's not how it is. I won't let some basedboy father decide my future.

>I can appreciate the value of such a gesture probably bringing the groom and the bride's dad closer together.
No you can't.
You really fucking can't appreciate that right now.
You can't possibly understand how important that is until you are having issues with her a few years in and can talk to your father-in-law about it.

>whines about how he isn't actually an unliving bugman and thinks that changes anything

I did.

Got a blessing and a 1 hour talk of married man advice.

No, if he would have said no I would have proposed anyway so whats the point

Both her parents are dead.

My sister's husbando-to-be is a brave man, because she has bad brothers.

I didn't and i regret it, although he never mentioned it and never showed me any hostility at any point.