Libertarian nationalism

National Libertarianism an idea that focuses on the libertarian ideal of a small government and virtually unlimited personal freedoms for citizens of a nation, as long as it doesn’t infringe on anyone else’s rights. However, the “National” part comes from the fact that, differently from the U.S. Libertarian Party, National Libertarianism focuses inwardly (Nationalism) rather than outwardly (Globalism), and outright rejects anarchy.

We believe in personal freedom, but we also believe in law and order. If you abuse your freedom and screw with someone else’s life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, we’ll throw your ass in jail. You want to smoke dope in the privacy of your own home? Have at it. But if you give dope to a 10 year-old who can’t make an informed choice, you’re a monster who’s going to a cage.

We believe in national self-sufficiency; the idea that a great nation should be able to provide and manufacture what it needs from its own resources. We believe that all of a nation’s citizens make up the body of the nation and have something to offer it; a National Libertarian doesn’t believe in “African-Americans,” or “Japanese-Americans,” or “White Americans,” or anything else—we believe in Americans. And we don’t believe in “Make America Great Again,” because we’re already the greatest nation the world has ever seen—we went from nothing to an empire in a human lifetime (1776–1848), and by 1944 we were the most powerful nation the world had ever seen. And have you ever wondered why most modern countries have a President as their head of state? Because we invented the concept in our Constitution 230 years ago.

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Trouble is, I honestly don't think most people can make an informed choice. I think people are motivated primarily by base instincts. Would you be in favour of eugenics?

Maybe

There needs to be a doctrine, a common ground. Every citizen needs to be a zealot. Where am I if my neighbors are crackheads and anything goes.
It may as well be a governance of the land of the tribes

Yes, everybody needs to believe in this ideology.

Eh, sounds pretty close to what I believe.
Sign me up.

That's your first problem, how can you have a "free" society where everybody must believe a certain ideology?

I like this pitch a lot, and the beauty of it, is true libertarianism would perfectly allow for the creation of ethnically homogenous businesses, communities, etc., etc.

Not only that but it would open the door up for incredible innovations in technology and business by eliminating bullshit patent and copyright laws thereby castrating (((hollywood))) at the same time.

And National Libertarianism has a great ring to it, easy sell. Maybe in 20 years there will be a National Libertarian government!

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Libertarianism only works when it’s all mid-to-high IQ white people.

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The great thing about libertarianism is it can be used to stealthily reintroduce and permit segregation etc all under the (valid) guise of personal liberty and individual rights

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America up til the mid 19th century was libertarian nationalist.

first you have to kill a commie

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Im in where do i sign up

we should only reject globalist anarchy, anarchy that believes in the strength of a nation is our friend

libertarian nationalism II on facebook

No one cares,Monarchies are the only way

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Libertarian Monarchy?

socialism by definition violates the NAP
this
join your local libertarian nationalist nationalist party and go to events

>Cavemen ideas
No thanks

>Cavemen ideas
>Anarchist
pick one

>Kekistani
>Incel
Pick two

i like it
its like fascism without the gay collectivist shit

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galts gulch will never be a thing. the only true answer is national socialism.

Is it homogeneous in ethnicity or civic nationalism?

I think it is by race.

What people have this ideology in real life.

pic related

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I like the name and the ideology

not a fan of the flag
what are some symbols of this ideology?

>National Libertarianism

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You have my interest. What's your opinion on gassing kikes?

this is the gayest shit ever.

"i will conquer and defend land so that people can do what they want and shit all over it".

> im a filthy kraut who hates freedom

what a shock

why else would you aquire land?
to do what you want with it

Sounds like Propertarianism.

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I would be okay with this if it weren't for the fact that brown people cannot function in a libertarian society.

I'm happy someone gets it. More people need to know about this.

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you seem to be missing the fact that immediate next result of libertarianism is massive parts of land, towns, etc., all running according to their entire own rule system, with no law preventing racial discrimination meaning market forces will quickly create whites only areas

Ethically the most we could get away with is deporting self admitted ones, as far as I know. However, deporting them to the middle of the ocean without a boat should still be on the table, and it can be extended to muslims, communists, etc.

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I would prefer a more powerful government at first forcibly getting rid of non whites and commies in order to restore the nation to a state where National Libertarianism can thrive.

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Our workaround is to leave any non-white capitalists alone, but not letting any non-whites migrate to the country. Thus, we do not violate the NAP, but gradually move toward a society comparable to an ethnostate.

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No free speech for commies.

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>Libertarian doesn’t believe in “African-Americans,” or “Japanese-Americans,” or “White Americans,” or anything else—we believe in Americans.

stopped reading here

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In an ideal world, sure. But National Libertarianism is much more likely to win elections.

Day of the Rope is 95% sure to never be anything more than a meme.

At least making it possible for private businesses and towns to become ethnically homogenous if they so desire or otherwise discriminate, etc., and slaughtering big tech, hollywood, and the multinationals, etc., by eliminating copyright and patent protections, would be a colossal win for our side, and may even be voted for by some bernie bro type faggots

As far as I'm concerned the people I want gotten rid of have already violated the NAP just by being here where they shouldn't.

I think copyright laws should definitely be curtailed
but why do you think patent laws are bad?

I understand why you think that, but unfortunately you can't find people guilty of breaking rules you invented after they had broken them. Otherwise you set a precedent of "guilty because I say so" and your leadership collapses.

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The problem is that most whites these days have been brainwashed into acceptance of other people and wouldn't homogenize without a big push.

Even if some people are here legally there are millions who aren't who can rightly be evicted since they did break the law and there is no reason we can't hang more criminals which if done in mass would fix a lot of racial problems.

"I want everyone to be as free as possible but I may have to kill you if you have weak genes or disagree with me." Took you 2 posts to show that you don't actually believe in your Ideology, good job.

So many reasons. Stifles innovation. Ends up mostly protecting super powerful corporations. (Which is not what the government should be doing). Falls outside the rightful purview of the government which is enforcing the NAP.

If the guy who invented 3D printed guns had patented them, would that stop you from printing one? Should it? Should that allow the government and powerful corps to pre emptively patent technology that threatens them. etc etc.

Get rid of all of it. Let the government simply protect the person and their (actual, not 'intellectual') property.

Yes, but lets say a few whites only bars open. How long before people realise how wonderful and peaceful and nice they are.

And then restaurants. Then neighbourhoods. Etc

>a National Libertarian doesn’t believe in “African-Americans,” or “Japanese-Americans,” or “White Americans,” or anything else—we believe in Americans
ahahahaha here we go again

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I just mean that being black in and of itself is not an act of aggression on someone else, and since it has been legal for black people to purchase property here up until this point, simply revoking that from them would be akin to theft. As for illegals currently residing within the country, the official National Libertarian stance is to dump them outside of our territory in the most economically efficient manner possible for first offenders and capital punishment for repeat offenders.

Basically dump illegals in the ocean outside of our territory.

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I would say that that would work but there are non governmental forces such as antifa, SPLC, Open Society, and gangs that would harass and probably become militant against people attempting to segregate themselves. Not to say people couldn't defend themselves but it could be avoided all together.

>I think people are motivated primarily by base instincts.
Traditionally this has been solved by religion.

Ah a man of taste. I have been saying for a while that Californias ocean is perfectly good and not used enough. To your point though, of course being black in and of itself is not wrong but thinking it is possible to judge everyone individually in such a large society is foolish and inefficient. If some innocents get lumped in with criminals well then it's a shame but it can't be helped. Also not many blacks actually own any real estate anyway most of it is provided by the government or they have a lot of debt.

I could go along with that. But I did really have my heart set on gas.

This locks like an ideology that’s with in the libertarian to alt-right pipeline.

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I’d like to subscribe to your newsletter, OP, it’s the first time libertarianism has intrigued me in years.

Sorry, but I am unable to make aggression against others based on their race fit within my system of ethics. Doing otherwise would be making something illegal not because it actually violates the NAP in any way, but because it allows us to persecute a particular demographic based on immutable characteristics that may not actually be inherently corrosive to society. That makes us just as bad as the left, and effectively leaves a back door for hidden leftists to abuse against the rest of us.

That said, I think private industry having government support in being able to racially discriminate will make any racial minorities who are prone to causing problems leave on their own.

Well if you can get them to sign a voluntary euthanasia contract, you should be fine. It's not like they can read english, anyhow.

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Anarchy in no way precludes law and order, dumbass.

Nobody wins by being the better person.

Wish more people actually read Tolstoy. So many idiots pick it up to be edgy and never actually question their beliefs. Ancoms are the worst.

wait what?

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Two things. One, creating caveats in your ethics system for convenience is like poking holes in your ship's hull because you're thirsty. Ejecting black people for being black regardless of whether they've actually committed a crime is just that. Secondly, when creating a weapon you know for a fact will pass hands, design it in such a way that it can't be turned against those is was built to protect. If you grant your government the ability to subjugate people based on immutable characteristics received at birth, there's no telling the damage that could be done.

If things turn bad and the left is in charge in a few centuries, I don't want whatever state exists at that point to be able to gas my great grandchildren.

It doesn't matter whether a country has solid rules or not somebody will subvert them and destroy your rules hence why it is best to do what needs to be done whether it is pleasant or not then establish a more free system.

100 years ago, Americans and Britons could casually openly carry the same firearms. Now, one has some gun rights left, one has next to none. Why? Straightforward, well written rules designed in such a way to not allow exceptions. Will exceptions show up anyway? Sure, but they will be slowed dramatically. I am willing to keep a small minority population for a time if it means my government has a strict "no mass murder" policy.

America is on its way to being Europe tier we've just had a slower burn than them. It's not like it needs to be mass murder anyway , it could easily be deportation and sterilization.

Sorry man, being a race is not an act of aggression and does not violate the NAP, therefor acts of aggression against others based on their race are not permissible. Besides, a white person looking to take your rights is infinitely more threatening than a black person looking to protect them.

A major threat is clear to see but a minor threat will grow undetected due to hubris.

What if the nap is violated?

Bust out the nukes

I could into National Libertarianism. As long as I still have the right to discriminate against nogs. Sadly this new form of Libertarianism will fail just like the original, but we will see.

But I don't posses any lethal weaponry, while the violator does. Will he serve justice on to himself?

You're doing something a lot of pro-ethnic cleansing people do, and that is talking in weird, nebulous, unspecific terms that resonate emotionally but not logically. I think that's what they call being demagogic and it doesn't work on educated people. I have just explained there are no rational reasons to use force on those who have not done the same nor have done anything to deserve suspicion of doing so, and as such it seems you've given up trying to appeal to my rationality.

A black person is more likely to commit a crime or something than a white person, but men are also more likely to commit a crime than women. If you can be punished for being born into a demographic that is more likely to do something wrong, regardless of your individual action, then it doesn't matter what that demographic is. It's immoral to hurt people who haven't done anything, it's dangerous to set that precedent, it's unbelievably expensive to enforce, and there is no way in hell we're going to get the tax base (the people who would actually be covering the costs of this ethnic cleansing) to allow it.

Remember friend, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Being a particular race does not inhibit these things. If you've been granted citizenship to the United States, regardless of your race, the government solely exists to protect these things for you.

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I just don't care about having the moral high ground.

Fuck off.

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Hear hear.
Sounds excellent to me so far.
Are corporations People?
Is the US Constitution actually outlining Natural Rights by God, or are those simply products of the works of the society?

that's because you are an edgy fella

Yeah I'll admit that.

I’m fine with most races except for El Salvadorans and Kebabs.

The quicker we can kick them out, the better society as a whole will be.

some kebabs are better than others