Fellow Europeans, which weapons can you legally buy when you are 18 without a license? How burdensome is a license in your state?
Pic related is a 308 Win / 7,62 x 51 NATO pump action rifle in the AR-15 look. It is free to buy for anyone aged 18 and over in Austria. Only requirement is to register your name in the gov database, which the seller does online within 2 min. Handguns and semi-autos require a license though. Bolt action, lever action and pump action rifles or breachloaders generally don’t require a license.
When I was in Austria I was amazed to see gunstores with semi automatic rifules in the store front. It looks like the Austrians will be able to defend themselves when the guests initiate operation"mosque weapons cache" invasion and start gunning down Europeans en masse
Connor Ramirez
Europoors so cucked they have to be put into a database whenever you buy a gun. Easy for the govt to get your gun under "emergency powers" that they can give themselves whenever. Dont even try to convince yourselves you have any hope. You put yourselves in your situation.
Isaac Hall
.50cal is unfortunately illegal in Austria, they say it can hit through outer tank shells so is a “military ammo”. Largest cal generally available is .338 Lapua Magnum. Pic related is accurate for 1.2km if not higher and is also available in Austria for anyone aged 18 and above, no license.
Austria is currently discussing to outlaw all “political Islam” symbols from Hesbollah to Hamas to Grey Wolves to Muslim brotherhood etc. Also, all headscarves are supposed to be banned in school until age 14.
What the fuck are you gonna do with a semi auto .22? Tickle someone to death?
Aaron Jackson
Only black powder firearms can be bought without a licence. You can mail them to your front door even. Besides that, everything else requires a gun permit. It's not hard to get but it takes time, the process can be convoluted and scary at first nd the whole ordeal costs more than it really should. Handguns, semi-auto rifles, shotguns are all available here. Everything past .50 calibre and fully automatic requires a special permit which is next to impossible to get if you don't have friends in high places. The permit also allows you to buy crossbows as they are harder to get than firearms for some fucked up reason. CC is out of the questions for the vast majority of people. You have to be incredibly wealthy for state to decide your property and family is worth protecting with a firearm. Overall, it's not the best, but could be a lot worse.
Michael Rodriguez
Austria has a law (could even be in the constitution, they put all kinds of bs in out Austrian constitution all the time) protecting the right of home defense. Home defense is a valid reason to get any gun, semi autos, handguns, rifles, bump action. We have a saying in Austria, “my home is my castle”. Criminal law also allows deadly force against people who try to do material harm to your car. In plain English - you can take your precision rifle and gun down a guy who is cutting your tires or trying to steal your car. Only requirement is to warn him first one time unless the guy is already driving away.
Isaac Baker
Austria leading the way!
Any hope for Deutschland? Bavarian election soon...
Levi Hernandez
We will only have issues in close combat situations inside buildings, pump actions are outlawed
I am in awe of German optics. The level of precision, and overall engineering is above and beyond anything produced in the US except for perhaps US Optics, that being our absolute best. I would settle for US Optics, but much prefer European glass and engineering.
How much would something like: Schmidt and Bender, Steiner, Zeiss, or Swarovski be in Germany? Is it just as expensive there as it is here?
Not to mention how caliber names rarely sync up with their actual dimensions, seeing as .223 is actually .224.
Can someone in UK make a custom cartridge that's essentially 5.56, but necked all the way down to .22?
Jacob Collins
>Any hope for Deutschland?
Not on gun rights, I am afraid.
Angel Cook
>gun rights >troy Stop right there Kraut. Do not give a penny to those fucks. A supressed 1022 or charger pistol is a better deterrent against riots than a battle rifle if you understand how anti riot tactics work. If thats all Europoors can get let them get it and practice with it.
Yes, all EU citizens can buy guns the same way Austrians can. However, if you intend to take a gun to France, you are supposed to fill out some form so that Austria can notify your gov. But nobody checks really.
Parker Murphy
Switzwerland
>Ar-15 >1 page form
>butterfly knife >2 pages form
Zachary Hill
Or for an existence of the white race and its children.
Julian Rodriguez
Newsflash, policy makers are retarded and most laws regarding weapons make no sense.
For example, I need the same paperwork to own a Mosin as to own an AR15 just because it was used by the army of another country.
Interesting, why did they out pump action and lever action in the WES category?
What is the process for full-auto? Do you generally have to state a good reason such as being in private security protection etc.?
Jeremiah Murphy
But yeah we re not bongistan
>alot of people do practice shooting >friend carried 22lr an 9mm in his backpack at school because he was going to the range afterwords
John Scott
Nope. German/French style of arm restrictions will be enforced via EU soon. It will even hit Switzerland.
Samuel Morales
In the late 90s, our teacher brought his lever action Winchester to machining class to show the mechanism and the challenges of machining a good rifle. Nobody thought about this in any weird way, we just thought it was cool to see a practical example of analog metal work.
Charles Cox
Because they are retarded. A pump action and a lever action should have been in the first category of weapons, but the lawmakers go by pop culture and ignorance to make their laws.
We had some socialist politicians saying that pump action should have been banned because "pumping makes the gun more powerful".
Full auto just needs an additional permit, it's easy to get in certain Cantons but it comes with strings attached and most gun owners do not want them.
For example you need to ask for a shooting permit each time you want to shoot it, and the cops can come to your house once a year to check how you are storing the full auto.
Ayden Myers
This is incorrect. The EU weapons directive overhaul only does a few idiotic things which affects mostly Czech gun enthusiasts, but not Switzerland or Austria. I guess rhe only really noticeable thing is they sell semi-autos like an AR-15 now with only 10 round mags... but you can still buy 20, 30 or 30+ round mags that fit... but you are supposed to not put them in the gun. That is how weird that directive update is.
Ayden Morris
>For example you need to ask for a shooting permit each time you want to shoot it, and the cops can come to your house once a year to check how you are storing the full auto.
Hmmm, that is truly bureaucratic, but thx for sharing.
Daniel Hughes
>Socialist politicians
The same guys claiming that there is no problem with Nigerian drug dealers in Geneva.
Brayden Perez
It affects us.
In the near future, any semi auto rifle that accepts mags over 10 rounds and handguns that accept mags over 20 rounds will not be WES anymore, but will be in the category of full autos.
That is what I tried to explain. But it is physically impossible to build semi-autos that accept 10 round mags to not accept 20 round or 30 round mags. And these mags can still be bought, ... but you are supposed to get a fine if you out the mag into the rifle. How stupid is that regulation, it is 100 percent unenforceable. It’s like a seatbelt law, nobody will get fined ever.
Noah Thompson
I want a pump-action shot-gun for home defense so badly.
>which weapons can you legally buy when you are 18 without a license? pic related and low power BB guns.
>How burdensome is a license in your state? Hunting rifles require you to take a theoretical and practical hunting exam. Then you can buy a conservative looking (No modern rifle is allowed for hunting) bolt action hunting rifle with a low capacity magazine. Semi autos are slowly being banned from hunting by haplophobes on the police gun licensing board and anti gun activists in the Swedish hunters association. The hunters association decide what is a hunting rifle and what is not. For example rifles from Accuracy International are considered military sniper rifles and therefor not appropriate for hunting.
For .22 cal pistols you need to have a clear criminal record, you have to join a shooting club and be a member for at least 12 months. To get a license for a pistol with a larger caliber than .22 you have to be a member for another 12 months. The pistol club has to validate you to the police when you apply for a license and then still they might reject you because: lulz. Then you have to renew the license regularly (every 4 year or something like that). Every time you renew your license it may be rejected because of reasons.
For any sort of assault rifle or SMG type of weapon you have to join a relevant shooting club and you have to be a member regularly attending meets and shooting events for a while (Don't remember but at least 1 year of membership) before you are eligable for a license. Then you have to prove to the haplophobes on the police gun licensing board that you *need* your own weapon and can't just use the club weapons.
In all cases you can lose your license for misdemeanors or if you join an organisation that is regarded as far right like for example NMR.
The stated goal of the Swedish police/government to stop all civilian gun ownership for any purpose other than hunting.
Requirements: 1) clean criminal record 2) civic "reliability" (no crimes such as treason or murders and no anti-freedom activities such as pushing for genocide etc.) 3) Demonstrate firearm proficiency (a practical exam by an interior ministry test deputy to show you will not shoot yourself or someone else by accident) 4) Knowledge of firearm legislation and first aid (theoretical test, very similar to the driving license, important for understanding of legal situations when self-defense with deadly force is applicable) 5) Profit - you can now purchase any firearm except for full-autos (which you can also get but it needs some reputation in collector community) up to 50cal or 20mm in some cases.
If one gets a license class for self-defense/property defense, you can now automatically carry concealed up to two firearms short or long (provided you can conceal a long one) for self defense.
Liam Ross
Not on the European continent but we can own guns so long as we have a Good Reason™ (self defence isn't enough). I believe we're also required to have two gun safes, one for the guns and one for the ammo.
Tyler Parker
>Come on guys we're gun people too Anglos are pathetic. At least Swedes know we're cucked on gun laws.
What’s so bad about registration? I have to register when I live somewhere, give my ID to get a passport, need my ID to vote etc. At least non-Austrians cannot vote in Austria.
Easton Jackson
Technically incorrect. Township elections are open to EU-citizens, unfortunately.
Joseph White
Honestly, I find it quite ironic that a German would ask such question...being a pioneer of targeted registered firearm confiscation and all.
Caleb Thompson
Registering firearms are never a good idea. >confiscations and bans
Jason Davis
>be kraut >what is wrong with government registration lists?
Everyone told me it was garbage. Especially the equipment. I would have done it, if it was like in the us.
Nicholas Bennett
Yeah, because any EU citizen ever bothers to vote in local elections. I live in Germany and I haven’t voted when they had local elections here last year.
Christopher Walker
The StG-77 is really a good rifle. I was in the Jägerbattalion, we went skiing a lot and mountaineering. I had my own boots and skiis, so no need to use the army issued stuff.
Ryan Gutierrez
It's not like a constitution can't be changed.
Matthew Barnes
.50 cal is not a modern day anti tank rifle. .50 cal and to a much lower extent, .338 lapua mag, are anti material rifles.
Put a round in the engine block of a car to stop it, for example.
Mason Harris
>legally Who cares what I can buy legally? What matters are the guns I have.
Angel Taylor
.338 lapua magnum is good for shooting deer long range in the mountains. My uncle does that.
Yes, .50cal really isn’t much different, but the gov so some US movies from the 80s with Schwarzenegger in it and outlawed .50cal.
I assume lever action is legal then? Go w revolver and lever action in the same calibur. Will give you a decent chance in the northern Pakistan civil war
Julian Campbell
I was under the impression this infographic wasn't actually accurate as I've seen a 'corrected' version posted alongside it
Wyatt Morgan
3000€ for a scope??
Angel Sanders
>but the gov so some US movies from the 80s with Schwarzenegger in it and outlawed .50cal.
that's basically what the uk government is doing now, except even dumber.
their argument is that criminals/terrorists have shown an interest in acquiring them and they're worried about them being stolen, despite the fact ther are
Matthew Jones
Brand name matters, Candian special forces uses S&B because they are hands down the best scopes in the world.
You can get a $50 scope anywhere in the world.
Justin Jones
Very clear and obvious gun grabbing, itll be rinse and repeat until you're left with hunting shotguns and .22's.
Angel Richardson
Yeah but how is it ever tactically practical to outfit scopes as expensive as the service weapon?
Robert Scott
>tfw you realize in a generation europe will have better gun laws than US but br even less white
m8 we're already basically there thanks to muh hungerford and dunblane. it's one of the reasons why i support you guys having a second amendment wholeheartedly, once you start losing this shit there's no stopping it and no going back
Jason Howard
>liscense I can just go to Walmart and pick up a gun while I get groceries. How cucked are you that you actually have to register and get a liscense to own a firearm?
Colton Carter
That's pretty weak, actually. Most of my guns would be illegal in the UK.
Tyler Walker
Kek
Julian Ross
"It will be over when you and your family is dead, it is for the best that you just get depressed and kill yourself if you don't agree with me. Just remember to pay a very tax until you die." - Local politician.
