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Well Christ cucks have at it. I wish to believe in your God, but not without a few questions answered. I’m not looking for you to defeat materialist arguments, I instead want an answer to certain problems of practicality when it comes to applying these values. The Bible says to honor thy father and mother. Are there exceptions? Is there any crime against man, nature, or God that a person can commit that negates his children’s obligation to honor them? If not than how would you expect to defeat moral degeneracy in society?

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> I recently said to a Hitler Youth leader: "You are usually so un-Christian, but your attitude toward women is the purest Christianity that is at all possible.” 150 years ago someone at a Catholic university wrote a doctoral thesis with the title: "Does a woman have a soul?” From this the whole tendency of Christianity emerges: it is directed at the absolute destruction of women and at emphasizing the inferiority of women. The entire substance of the priesthood and of the whole of Christianity is an erotic union of men for the erection and maintenance of this 2000-year old Bolshevism. The Roman emperors, who eradicated the first Christians, did exactly the same thing that we are doing with the communists. These Christians were then the worst yeast which the great city contained, the worst Jewish people, the worst Bolsheviks.

> The Bolshevism of that time had the power to become great on the carcass of the dying Rome. The priesthood of the Christian church which later subjugated the Aryan church in unending conflicts goes on, since the 4th or 5th Century, to long for the celibacy of priests. It relies on Paul and the very first apostles who derogate the woman as something sinful and permit or recommend marriage as merely a legal way out of prostitution – that is in the Bible – and derogate the procreation of children as a necessary evil. This priesthood continues along in this way for several centuries until in 1139 the celibacy of priests is fully implemented.

> the Church in its leadership, its priesthood, is for the most part a homosexual erotic men-union that on this basis has been terrorizing humanity for the past 1800 years. I need only to recall the witch and heretic trials.

> The attitude about the inferiority of women is a typical Christian attitude, and we also who have been national socialists up to this day – many even who are strict heathens – have unwittingly adopted this set of ideas.

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>inb4 hitler was christian comments from jewish bots

Tell us, if Hitler was so very Christian as you jews like to portray him as (and in addition to that you're also pushing the idea that he was anti-pagan), in your desperate attempt to sell that expansion pack for Judaism to to us, then why did he allow so much anti-christian propaganda to be created, often in official government-run media, and why did he allow in the Hitlerjugend and in the Schutzstaffel the promotion of paganism and the propagation of anti-christian sentiments? Why did he allow Heinrich Himmler to rise in the ranks and do as he pleased, and not only just allowed him but encouraged him to take initiative and lead and also saw him as one of his most trusted/closest ally and as one of the most important men the leadership of the country (all the way from the mid 20s to 45)?

It's easy to throw a bunch of pre-election Hitler quotes around and claim he was Christian, but the reality doesn't match up with that idea. Let's say he was Christian, more than just on paper -- that he actually believed in the abrahamic god named God and loved Jesus and prayed to him and thought he was a good role model for the German people (....) -- okay, for the sake of argument, let's say that was the reality of Hitler. Then WHY is his actions and lack of action in total contrast to that? Why did he allow the above mentioned? Why DID the Third Reich become so very saturated with Pagan thought and literature and symbolism (even in the military)...???

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In the NSDAP-created and fully approved of documentary "The Eternal Jew" they tell the audience that the Biblical characters in fact looked like dirty Jews and not like Europeans:

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You act like I’ve never seen this before. Besides, Hitler was cozy to Islam. Not exactly the best third option.

>anti-christian book about the pagan winter solstice

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>If not than how would you expect to defeat moral degeneracy in society?
Rampant murder with Jesus in their hearts.

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>and here's the 1st SS Panzer Division which was named after Hitler himself; the "Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler"(LSSAH) celebrating the winter solstice in Berlin.

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It's not for you, it's for the lurkers. And he wasn't for Islam in Europe. Just for supporting them for military reasons and to get rid of Jews in the middle east.

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The question remains the same, how do you expect people to turn over to a new LEAF if you are forced to honor the profane.

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There are quotes where Hitler would have liked Islam to be European but alas it had no European roots as he stated.

>The book mentioned in the pic:

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Very Christian content, yes?

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>The Bible says to honor thy father and mother. Are there exceptions? Is there any crime against man, nature, or God that a person can commit that negates his children’s obligation to honor them? If not than how would you expect to defeat moral degeneracy in society?
The commandment to honor thy father and thy mother is not contingent upon their actions. Their mortal flesh is imperfect and they will sin regardless, and concerning the law every sin is equal. So it's your duty to 'honor' your father and mother (whatever 'honor' means), even if they murder someone or if they commit some other sin, which they surely do.

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>The pagan "Irminsul", used as a symbol for the Ahnenerbe (an organization tasked primarily with documenting German and European culture and doing historical research as well as archeology).

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Hitler hated is own materialist thinking and larped his ass off with pagan symbols and cucking to Christianity.

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>The Bible says to honor thy father and mother
Father = God
Mother = New Jerusalem

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It’s more about “mistakes” I’m talking about being a full blown Canaanite that would sacrifice their children to a false god. Someone fit for destruction.

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That’s a new one. Tell me more.

My point stands regardless of what sin they commit. The truth is that you're arguing in bad faith, so unless you're serious about having a real discussion, I should disengage. Jesus Christ called the Jews sons of the devil, and referred to non-Jews as dogs in one allegory. Does that mean they can't get saved or should not be honored by their children? Of course not.

>I want to be a christcuck
>burger
not really surprising, you make the best slaves

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We can now expect a paid jewish agent to come to this thread and quote isolated cherry-picked content from a segment in Mein Kampf, omitting key details of the text, in order to misrepresent what Hitler was saying. That's how desperate they are with their attempts of trying to use Hitler to sell Christianity as well as an anti-pagan (anti-european) sentiment to Whites on Jow Forums.

The full segment from Mein Kampf can be read here:

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>Arguing in bad faith
How so?
Again I’m not talking about sin and repentance, I’m talking about repeated lifestyles of shameless debauchery. How will you defeat it?

Italy don’t be that way. You’re just as confused as any one else.

First of all, shameless debauchery will first of all be punished by God. Most of these people are severely depressed freakshows on medication, suicidal wrecks, etc. Second of all, mothers and fathers should be 'honored' in that capacity, not as debauched sinners.

The Bible contains various stipulations on how to deal with degeneracy and sinners of various sorts. I fail to see your point here other than trying to make a stupid gotcha-question.

God seems to think there’s a point of no return and there should be no mercy for the sake of justice. What honor is left for a person who does not honor themselves, life, or truth.

Okay so there’s different means of honor? So the honor that is due to their behavior?

>preferring christcukery over german idealism
that's exactly the reason why the kikes had no problem taking over your country

>convince me
>first post is from LARPagan spammer
>29 posts and counting
Yeah, surely not a fake thread or anything. Varglets are so obvious.

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The only point that we know about is when a person becomes a "reprobate" who is literally incapable of understanding the truth of the Bible and becoming saved. Clear signs of someone being a reprobate is being a homosexual, pedophile, fag, etc. Those are the main signs of someone being a reprobate, and they "can not come to the knowledge of the truth", according to the Bible.

Probably, yeah, since the Bible says to honor thy father and mother; not because they did something good, but because they are your mother and father.

Don't look for the hard rules, but follow the concept.
Crist was revolutionary cause he said " don't do to other what you don't want to be done to you".
It changed the west, and made all of us grow.
Follow that, and try to help the people around you if and when you can, so that society ( and thus you ) can get better.
There you go.
The rest is corruption and remains of the inquisition age, from where Cristianity waqs used as a tool by the powerfull to get controll of the masses.

Go be schizo some where else.

If you’re looking for technical loopholes around the 10 commandments, try reading the Talmud and converting to jew

What do you expect to receive as an answer? A mathematical formula of morality? Only God knows exactly what action is appropriate in exactly which situation. The only thing we can do is read the Bible, keep the commandments in our minds, and use discretion and common sense with their applications, and hope that God's going to nudge you into the right direction.

>believing in fairytales
but why?

Wait, so Jesus was a Chad?

The evidence for the authenticity of the Bible is overwhelming, you're willingly ignorant.

>Is there any crime against man, nature, or God that a person can commit that negates his children’s obligation to honor them?
Ten commandments is old covenant.
Also, "honor" doesn't mean obey.

Obviously.
Matthew 10:34, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

>homosexuality
>pedophilia
>incapable of understanding the truth of the Bible
My parents get a two out of three on that score. They spend their lives marketing a message that is just a twisted version of the Bible. They do not have true love, they would choose the company of child molesters over their own son and hated me when I started living according to truth. What honor is left for them? Because I turn my back on them.

>the evidence of the authenticity of the koran is overwhelming
this is how stupid you sound

The big question: what the Bible deems as evil and what's happening in the real world (shit that gets anons mad) seem to correlate the most.

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And he did.
He changed the west, and all the planet with his teaching of peace.
Look here:

No one should convince you, you gotta do that on your own.
Highly recommend trying to read some Nag Hammadi.

Fine then, remain ignorant. But on the day of judgement you'll regret it.

>If not than how would you expect to defeat moral degeneracy in society?

The degeneracy-suppressing aspects of religion were largely just common sense back then, going back to neolithic civilization.

Christianity co-opted the customs as unified system, similiar to how our legal system are coopted roman justice. This is necessary for civilization to function, to make large populations play by the same rules.

In a sense, islam is a boycott of the earlier "turn the other cheek" nature of christianity and it restored strong sense of pride and patriarchy.

Frankly, the best way out of this mess is to try to civilize islam, ie genocide its barbaric religious leader casts. It has the best momentum and much more stable dogma than modern christianity. Hitler himself pointed it out nicely, from wiki:

Hitler's views on Islam are a matter of controversy. On the one hand, Hitler privately demeaned ethnic groups he associated with Islam, notably Arabs, as racially inferior. On the other hand, he also made private and public statements expressing admiration for what he perceived to be the militaristic nature of Islam and the political sharpness of the Prophet Muhammad.

show your flag kike

If your parents are actually pedophiles or homosexuals, then they are reprobates. However, you don't negate Biblical commandments on those grounds. Your parents can't get into heaven, apparently. That's not what honor thy father and mother is about.

>on the day of judgment you’ll be sawwee
Your faith hinges on threats and suppositions. Your opinion is disregarded.

nah allah will be mad at you for believing in the wrong god, you wanna risk that?

Then what does it mean to you, to honor your father and mother?

I want you to believe God and receive life, like I received life. How is it that you're supposed to believe in a savior if you don't know that you need saving from hell?

>I’m not looking for you to defeat materialist arguments
Well too bad. Materialism itself cannot reduce anything to base matter. In fact this is merely reorganizing the full knowledge and experience one has had, and pushing it all to simple symbols. Say, a billiard ball or Bohr's model for hydrogen atom. Things are not reducible. You can forget and ignore things like your control over your body or your own experience and if you have strong belief in determinism you likely will sacrifice all for it.

However, if everything does 'boil down' to matter, then matter will have huge potential that allows us to perceive it differently from the get-go. Nothing is reduced, everything expands and extends. Like guilt.

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>implying there is no such thing as hell on earth.

To have reverence for them in their capacity as parents.

>very low iq babbeling
why don't you share this shit on facebook?
They wouldn't notice a retard in their mist

>Is there any crime against man, nature, or God that a person can commit that negates his children’s obligation to honor them? If not than how would you expect to defeat moral degeneracy in society?
Consider that we come from apes. You may find it repulsive, for obvious reasons, but opposing the past for this is detrimental.
In fact, if anything in the past prior to your birth was different, you likely wouldn't exist.

I can almost guarantee you he's higher IQ than you.

>Christ cucks
How about no. Enjoy your nihilist life and dont shoot yourself to soon (jk do it)

Is being a parent just a manifestation of giving birth? Or is it also fulfilling roles and actions to be counted as a parent?

That's like asking why would you believe the rescue helicopter crew if you don't know about the tidal wave that's going to hit in 10 minutes.
You trust the rescue helicopter because thier reliable people.
You trust the Lord because every work made by him or his follower has been for the good of all.

who let you out of your cuckshed sven?
sh sh back in with you, ahmed is waiting

I’m saying it as a joke. We all know that it takes provocation to get some of you to respond.

>The Bible says to honor thy father and mother. Are there exceptions? Is there any crime against man, nature, or God that a person can commit that negates his children’s obligation to honor them?
The child must only obey when to do so is not to commit a sin. So if your parents try to make you do anything that's sinful, you don't have to do it.

Of course it's a simple concept, the stupid need to be saved too.

Being a parent means to strictly give birth, but that role comes with certain responsibilities, obviously. But it would appear as if God's commandment to honor your father and mother is also symbolic of us honoring God as our Father in heaven -- similarly for that reason alone, since he hasn't done anything tangible for us that we can see in this life, but we still honor him.

it also applies to all your superiors. the bible also teaches you should follow your nation's laws, etc. as long as to do so is not sinful. "render unto caesar what is caesar's". so in essence if the state says "you gotta have a reg plate on your car faggot" you gotta do it, but if the state tries to make you do anything degenerate(like baking a cake for faggots) you can resist.

Well that's an interesting take on it. I disagree. One reason is because if they were referring to God they would have said "Father in Heaven"

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that is beyond retarded

>Not baking a cake for a gay wedding as a hill to die on
Seems kind of silly when early Christians were given permission by Paul to buy and purchase meat of animals sacrificed to false Gods.

pagan roman empire had an arab emperor at one point. christian europe enslaved and genocided blacks and arabs

Have a blessing guys

Who is this anime girl I've been seeing in religious posts?

I didn't say you MUST, but you CAN.

christ-chan

pierce was a dumb naive boomer who could organize shit, why do you even bother.

Neonazis btfo!

You should always honor then as your parents. Honor also means to do unto them that which is just, so if they do evil then have them face the consequences. They are your parents, your birth givers, so you are obligated to be their link to salvation. Through you, they are much more likely to listen to reason.

If their consequence is death, then it is your duty to see them through their end and try to convince them to recant their sins before death.

if they harmed you, then you have even more reason to save them; because it is the ultimate viewing of forgiveness by you.

just become jewish and worship satan, christ will not save u.

it even had an psychotic emporer who waged war against poseidon.