>A senior scientist has given what has been described as a "highly offensive" presentation about the role of women in physics, the BBC has learned. At a workshop organised by Cern, Prof Alessandro Strumia of Pisa University said that "physics was invented and built by men, it's not by invitation". He said male scientists were being discriminated against because of ideology rather than merit.
>CERN, the European nuclear research centre, described Prof Strumia's presentation as "highly offensive". The centre, which discovered the Higgs Boson in 2012, has removed slides used in the talk from its website "in line with a code of conduct that does not tolerate personal attacks and insults".
>He produced a series of graphs which, he claimed, showed that women were hired over men whose research was cited more by other scientists in their publications, which is an indication of higher quality.
>He also presented data that he claimed showed that male and female researchers were equally cited at the start of their careers but men scored progressively better as their careers progressed.
>Prof Strumia pointed to behavioural research which he suggested may account for the disparity.
>One study, he told his audience, indicated that "men prefer working with things and women prefer working with people" and another, he claimed, suggested that there was a "difference even in children before any social influence".
>talk about the role of Africans in engineering. user please, the niggers would have gone to the moon if it were not for evil white people, Their engineering skill is unparalleled African Space Programs: youtube.com/watch?v=f4CGwSqrGq8&t=253s
>implying terms for objective measurement are part of their vocabulary
Lucas Allen
It's good that engineers and scientists are starting to speak out. But I think the feminist wave will keep on rolling for a while.
Maybe in the meantime they can do research in Asia. Singapore, Taiwan or Japan would be ideal, since those places are Western-compatible without the egalitarian bullshit.
Julian Morales
it's possible to present an argument without being arrogant and talking down to a woman about it. it was the tone of the argument. this is what scares women from stem jobs.
Carter Gomez
inb4 a fucking waman creates a blackhole to REALLY rub it in the face of patriarchy...
There's no way he could put forward that argument without women screeching to the heavens.
Anthony Cooper
How do you know what the 'tone' of the talk was, given they haven't released the video? Were you there? Or are you just spouting the usual SJW tone police bullshit?
William Myers
>a fucking waman creates a blackhole That would require some actual maths talent though.
Dr Jessica Wade, a physicist at Imperial College London who was at the meeting, told BBC News that Prof Strumia's analysis was simplistic, drawing on ideas that had "long been discredited".
"It was really upsetting to those at the workshop," she said.
"There were young women and men exchanging ideas and their experiences on how to encourage more women into the subject and to combat discrimination in their careers. Then this man gets up, saying all this horrible stuff."
She added: "I don't understand how such a forward thinking organisation like Cern, which does so much to promote diversity in research, could have invited him to speak to young people just starting off in their research careers when his ideas are so well known."
Dominic Hernandez
penis envy is incurable us men will never live up to your "standards"
>Dr Jessica Wade, a physicist at Imperial College London who was at the meeting, told BBC News that Prof Strumia's analysis was simplistic, drawing on ideas that had "long been discredited".
I hear this so much whenever it comes to race and IQ. Of course it's never followed up with any proof.
David Reyes
seconding this
Daniel Smith
It's literally what Damore was talking about too. Evolutionary selection can't be socially engineered out of people without the risk of collapsing the society that was built from it.
Hudson Wood
Based
Meritocracy is the only viable path for the future
Noah Gray
Who was that bald man again?
Brayden Ward
>There were young women and men exchanging ideas and their experiences on how to encourage more women into the subject and to combat discrimination in their careers. Then this man gets up, saying all this horrible stuff.
That is some fucking epic level trolling.
Charles Baker
Physics and maths (PHD level) are for really high IQ people. Women can't compete, above 140 IQ there are only men.
Charles Williams
Sweetie posting. You fucking idiot.
Chase Ortiz
>muh bigots Get fucked retard
Joseph Carter
Imagine being such a spineless pussy the seal cub clubbed you back and gave you permanent brain damage
Charles Sanchez
Because its wishful thinking. The truth remains offensive.
Nathaniel Sullivan
Women are incapable in all fields after certain level Top will be occupied by small % of men only
Women are pushed artificially to the top in every field because of conflict between top 0.1% neo-feudal elite and bourgeois class (and because of internal conflicts in group).
It is called sabotage
Jason Fisher
tone policing too, you really are a card. I wonder how far the mind virus has spread in you precious. I'd reject that programming and open your mind to the harsh reality of the world where fucking tone has no value whatsoever, cupcake.
Jose Sanchez
Fuck off you work shy cunt How are you going to think critically if you can’t handle criticism. Honestly you probably suit the kitchen.
I'm also confused. Which part of this speech did they disagree with? Or did they agree with every fact, but were upset by it?
Women have contributed almost nothing to STEM even since the doors were going open for them. Name a female STEM pro who did anything? Marie Curie, Rosalind Franklin were pretty dope, but both in like the 50s. No woman has done shit since.
Charles Sullivan
This is some next level b8ing, Australia needs to step on it ASAP.
Michael Cook
>it's possible to present an argument without being arrogant and talking down to a woman about it. The argument is how women are whining privileged cunts, there is literally no way to present that fact without 'talking down' to women. If you are being a total asshole and someone tells you that there is no way to come off 'nice' because they're calling you what you are and what you are is a total asshole.
>muh carbon emissions >plot to destroy the industries of the west No you dumb nigger it's literally subsidized energy and consumption independence. Regardless of whether the cover is good or not you'd be a retard not to support it.
Jaxon Hill
>Real Black Mesa type shit There wasn't a single woman in the original Half-life, don't even mention the nigger from HL2 or I will lose it.
Wyatt Fisher
Checked. Get the rake.
Cooper Lopez
>BBC says "this guy is making things up and basically he's literally hitler" the presentation is linked in the article, read the slides, everything makes perfect sense. which is precisely why f*moids are reeeeeeing hard
Logan King
gas chamber
Tyler Cruz
Yeah it really matters when you have populations of billions not giving a fuck in the slightest and developing almost with spite. Its obviously a means to attack western industries, just as social justice bullshit is a means to destroy western tech sectors and other industries of relevance.
>Man: "...and those are the facts." >Woman: FEEEELZ :(... >BBC: Facts are Nazis
This is like the Google memo redux. It doesn't matter what the facts are, it doesn't matter who is most competent for the job, the only thing that matters is workforce diversity, even if it hurts the project. This ideology makes the competent and unemployed feel resentful and the incompetent but employed feel ashamed or entitled. It's a cauldron of dysfunction for everyone, individually and socially. This is 1984.
none of his have been discredited though. in fact, they are in line with the most current literature. Dr. Jessica Wade was, of course, speaking of matters not related to her area of research... who would have imagined that.
Cameron Thompson
I always knew that women were the niggers of gender.
Christian Lopez
Women are sometimes refuted in the workplace but obviously not all of them are talked to in such a manner, a manner that implies that they are inferior. Many of them are too afraid to speak up for themselves. The amount of hate replies i got to my argument is proof enough that there's a clear problem with male arrogance in the workplace. Yeah and don't use the word cunt, it basically outs you guys for the misogynists you are. Real men work alongside women, they don't sabotage them.
Thomas Price
Man hate, let them in, that's all you get, man hate as soon their pretty feminine feet are through the door. When a woman gets to the moon using physics then they will be a worthy competitor.
>He never played Sin. The game was shit, HL was the only game that mattered 20 years ago you dumb fuck
Brayden Flores
Didn’t heddy Lamar invent Bluetooth?
Cameron Wood
>removed slides used in the talk from its website "in line with a code of conduct that does not tolerate personal attacks and insults". > >>He produced a series of graphs which, he claimed, showed that women were hired over men whose research was cited more by other scientists in their publications, which is an indication of higher quality. > >>He also presented data that he claimed showed that male and female researchers were equally cited at the start of their careers but men scored progressively better as their careers progressed.
Facts that don't fit the narrative are "harassment"
An ideological constitution is being forced over ALL fields and sciences and hobbies that forces out everyone who isn't FAR left.
Charles Williams
>physics built by men Physics was designed and dictated by God. Man merely made the discoveries. If you're gonna have a right-wing argument, at least make sure it is accurate. Otherwise you're no better than leftists.
Hudson Turner
Fuck off, David.
Samuel Harris
>on how to encourage more women into the subject Why? Why can't women freely choose what they want to do with their lives? Why should society pressure them one way or another?
Brandon Davis
This could be a good thing. With all the inept women running around maybe this technocrat nightmare will slow down. But more likely is that good smart men will not be there to push back against this bs
>The centre, which discovered the Higgs Boson in 2012, has removed slides used in the talk from its website "in line with a code of conduct that does not tolerate personal attacks and insults".
Did CERN adopt the Linux CoC?
Lucas Green
They develop because we depend on them you absolute mouth breathing brainlet. If we stop being dependent on them we can develop without hemorrhaging resources in exchange for energy or cheap labor, thus putting us further ahead and removing dependency obstacles to growth. Now go fap to porn because I'd say that's about all your brain is good for.
>But more likely is that good smart men will not be there to push back against this bs We'll hire by skin color and gender, brains be damned. This is why China will crush us.
Evan Bailey
You mad nogs aren't smart enough to be engineers?
Luis Wilson
>2 posts by this id?
Extremely shitty, low-effort, shill posting 1/10
Justin Stewart
What's funny is that they're basically admitting that women and minorities think in such radically different ways that their contribution to any project is indispensable, which directly contradicts the idea of equality between the races and genders.
Zachary Young
Roasted leaf detected.
Owen Davis
You don't have to use the N word, shut the fuck up. If i ever heard this at work i would report u
