Isn’t Rich

>lol workers are so cucked for working for bosses!
Meanwhile in communism
>*points gun at comrade* you will work in the collective farms for 16 hours today for harboring capitalist propaganda. Then your crops will be confiscated for redistribution

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>supports those who are rich and willing to fuck everyone else over
I agree, we should all stop paying taxes.

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>anything sounds retarded when you take it to a ridiculous extreme, so that's my argument
ugh

>ridiculous extreme

But that's literally what happened

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But user, the rich getting richer makes us richer too....

Not to mention, to deny everyone the opportunity to get rich is just evil.

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In one instance. Tons of people died in the incredibly unsafe work conditions found in Industrial Age America under capitalism, why don't you use that for your comparison?

See that American flag by your post? See that computer and/or mobile device with the screen you're reading this on? See the (relatively) healthy body that your eyes are attached to? See the conditioned environment all around you with running water, electricity, and climate controls? You are in the top 5% of the world population. You ARE rich. You're so busy thinking we need to overthrow the ultra rich you didn't look behind you to see the 18 other people living on a couple dollars a day who would kill you just to have a fraction of what you have.

>Whataboutism

What is it with communists and being unable to defend your own shitty system? When faced with criticism you just attack capitalism. As if criticism of capitalism is somehow praise for communism.

But to your point, the worst conditions under capitalist were dainty compared to the worst conditions under communism (That is, being shipped off to the gulag for accidentally saying kikes were bad)

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>invest in themselves

Capitalism sounds great until you realize that the individual is always dwarfed and vulnerable to larger individuals and entities. Big corporations only want your money. If you work for them, your time too. That is not good for the people.

Drop a legitimate argument or leave

Lol stay bent over then

>Explain
Some people aren't selfish. You are, which is why you care about what others have and you don't. You care more about materialism than you do freedom. We care more about freedom than materialism.

This

Based

Difference being fixing unsafe working conditions involves sending the kids to school and slapping some guards on the machinery, whereas fixing communism involves... entirely getting rid of communism.

>why don't you use that for your comparison?
Because people can CHOOSE to work whatever job they'd like in Capitalism. Communism, one if forced to do so.

>not understanding that an invention is made by creative individuals and not wagecuck slaves

>not realizing the soviets were able to send people to space before the US

Like what? Every socialist country collapses or goes back to capitalism. Even Cuba is becoming capitalist.

>some people

Most CEOs are sociopaths. If companies were people, they would be sociopaths. Companies can and have bought politicians. These people just want to bend you over and steal from you.

Stay cucked

While I am no Marxist, I do believe that traditional Marxist critique of capitalism is mostly valid.

Too bad the contemporary left is more concerned with idpol(A concept that Capital is more than happy to allow them to play with) than actual economic justice.

I hate the rich
That's why I hate their globalist plans for a new world order

You mean they’re doing what’s working? If your system is corrupt then change it. The extreme capitalist Americuck system is broken and needs changing

Yes

>creative individuals
Aka, engineers and scientists who get a wage and work for an employer. Are you retarded?

It does need changing. It needs less statism and more economic freedom

And if they don’t CHOOSE to work they starve

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>Isn't Rich
>supports those who aren't rich and willing to fuck everyone else over

Exactly. Their government is corrupt and needs to shift to account for this. Our system is corrupt and needs to squeeze the freedom of our large cuckporations

That's how living works, user. We're not plants making sugar from photosynthesis

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OP is a faggot

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yeah and the more capitalist they all get the more riots become intensive, i love how you say capitalism work but then when some bourgeoisie farmers get killed and people like Malema get more and more popular you scream Bloody Murder and "terrorists"

youtube.com/watch?v=odnUrs5pZl4

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>they're doing what's working
Like going back to capitalism after the economy has been stagnating for decades?
You have no viable alternative. Your system was tried and failed every time. Nobody said capitalism is without flaws, it's still the best system we have. EVERY developed nation is capitalist you mongoloid. Go back to leftypol.

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Your socialist energies have been directed by business, government, and the media away from fair treatment and rights for labor and towards racial politics and immigration in order to weaken the ability of the working class to collectivize. You do more harm than good to the people you claim to defend.

>isn't rich
speak for yourself poorfag

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Dude most of Jow Forums are fat whiney lazy fucks who never worked a day in their life.

You expect them to understand a workers plight or a workers mind?

Yes I agree, labor is a part of life. But why should anyone get fucked over and treated like dirt and that be considered alright? The people at the bottom are not in an ethical way of being right now

>Isn't Rich
>supports those who are willing to ensure everyone is equally poor

Says the cuck

This doesn't even happen. Most homeless in America are overweight or obese.

consumer.healthday.com/public-health-information-30/economic-status-health-news-224/one-third-of-u-s-homeless-population-is-obese-study-664886.html

People die in capitalist nations because they eat too fucking much. Not starve to death.

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Why are you getting fucked over and treated like dirt? Is it because you aren't happy with your current employer? Good news: if you work in a free market, you can leave that job and find a better one!

Thanks for the enlightening

laughing.
and communist terrorism where your family goes to a gulag for questioning doctrine is the answer.
democracy=civilization
get over it.
im not giving up my freedom so niggers can get a full free ride and i go to jail for calling you a dicksucking faggot.

Lmao, there are so many people in America who don't even work. They're paid in welfare by the state to laze around. You can literally be a worthless lazy piece of shit under capitalism. Can't under communism! You can be HOMELESS and die from overdosing on the drugs you purchased with all the money people throw at you

So you are a cuck.

I care mroe about my wife and her freedom to be fucked by many dicks.

lol you never worked a hard day in your life pansy.

I might hate the liberal pussies but you right fat asses are just lazy rich kids who wander through life thinking they earned shit when they are just whiney racist pussies who never socialize or work.

Want to cure the worlds problems, stop the right and the left from ever speaking, whatever they sau is cuckery bullshit.

"I luv big daddy trump i luv his cock durrr"

"I luv big daddy Maher he da best durrr"

both right and left, same side of the lazy never worked cuck coin.

>has nothing due to desire to not work
>wants those who do work to give him what they earned

>Your socialist energies have been directed by business, government, and the media away from fair treatment and rights for labor and towards racial politics and immigration

actually its the complete opposite - racism is a tool the break class solidarity - you wont unionize with a black person or a migrant becouse your "racial solidarity" is stronger.

you see yourself as having more in common with a white Capitalist then with a black or Latino worker . ever thou you just as broke as they are in many instances

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I support the rich because through my hard work and effort they will make me rich as well. Commies want everyone to be just mediocre or starving because they hate work, ethics, values, virtues and responsiblity.

I'm a worker. I swing a hammer for a living. I can promise you that if a workers revolution ever comes to pass and me and my kind are put into power we will line up every single NEET leech piece of shit against a wall and right next to them will be every pussy college boy commie and barista faggot that got us there.

>cuck
>inversion
>projection
aren't you supposed to call me a fucking white male?

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EVERY developed nation has racemixing ads and low native population birthrates. Communism however is retarded in the fact that it devolves into the very thing it wished to destroy and ends up starving its people. The solution? Allow specific lobbies to gain power in your government and control all rich so that they don't sell out to kikes. Or have an AI rule your country. Cryptoauthoritarianism is the only way.

If it’s so easy the you should try it sometime.

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exactly communism isnt a thing anymore because it failed.
its a jewish system set up to enrich ONLY the ruling class,everyone else fuckin dies for them,literally.

>wants people who do work not to be fucked over and have no power

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>the ltv and "surplus labor" isn't even taken seriously anymore
how is this an argument?
can you disprove the LTV?

I personally enjoy all the work that I've done. When I think I'm entitled to more pay for the work I do, I have talks with my boss and we work out something that works or I go somewhere else where I can get what I want. I don't know what you are trying to say.

That’s like supporting the man who fucks your wife because he gives you handjobs occasionally

you forgot honor and truthfulness.

This isn’t about being NEET. this is about not being bent over by people with more money and established power

>dead jew telling me what my best interests are
>my best interests happen to include a scenario in which jews get everything they want for free and never have to lift a finger
WOW, THANKS! FUCKING BASTE!

I do. Are you aware Nazi Germany had universal healthcare, education, limit on working hours, paid vacation leave and even had subsidized vacations for the workers?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

I have nothing in common with the nigger. He is genetically dumber, and the poorest white area in the nation is applachia which had a lower violent crime rate than the national average.

You vote for open borders which increases labor competition and drives down wages. These are things that were unthinkable for socialists in the early twentieth century. You've abandoned your own people because you've been subverted by racial politics and egalitarianism. Mass immigration is a devastatingly effective tool used against labor and yet you actively promote it. Give me one good reason why.

please explain how price discovery works

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user, we just need a stateless, moneyless society where everyone is equal...buuuuut you have to give control of your country over to the Jews first. REDpilled as fuck!

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>Capitalism is about letting people invest in themselves.
Not at all. As the name states, capitalism is about managing capitals. If you are left without capitals, you then have to use your own self as capital until you gain enough capital to invest (or die along the way).

Any other interpretation is such a sporadic occurrence that can easily be defined as meme.

t. how aristocracy survived the revolution

Finland.

you leave in a socialist country, Americans dont even have universal health care

> When I think I'm entitled to more pay for the work I do, I have talks with my boss and we work out something that works or I go somewhere else where I can get what I want. I don't know what you are trying to say.
only people I know that talk like this are business owners

>communist terrorism where your family goes to a gulag for questioning doctrine
imagine thinking this is true, you've been brainwashed, you fucking idiot.
>democracy=civilization
are you implying that democracy and socialism are antonyms?
>im not giving up my freedom so niggers can get a full free ride and i go to jail for calling you a dicksucking faggot
giving up your freedom? free ride? what the fuck are you even talking about?
fucking hell, you truly are retarded.

>uh communism

Because that wasn't real capitalism XDD!

>are you implying that democracy and socialism are antonyms?
Social "democrats" whine and cry foul and call for insurrectionism the instant they lose an election. They are democrats of convenience.

You have my ladder

welcome to Jow Forums
welcome to brain dead americans

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Maybe I'm just more empathetic towards business owners than communists.

>But to your point, the worst conditions under capitalist were dainty compared to the worst conditions under communism (That is, being shipped off to the gulag for accidentally saying kikes were bad)
More like being jailed for wanting to settle in Israel if you had Jewish ancestry.
btw the capitalist third world was much, much, much worse than the Eastern Bloc.

Capitalism does work you stupid leftypol moron.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_economic_reform#Economic_performance_since_reform

>China's economic growth since the reform has been very rapid, exceeding the East Asian Tigers. Economists estimate China's GDP growth from 1978 to 2013 at between 9.5% to around 11.5% a year. Since the beginning of Deng Xiaoping's reforms, China's GDP has risen tenfold.[29] The increase in total factor productivity (TFP) was the most important factor, with productivity accounting for 40.1% of the GDP increase, compared with a decline of 13.2% for the period 1957 to 1978—the height of Maoist policies. For the period 1978–2005, Chinese GDP per capita increased from 2.7% to 15.7% of U.S. GDP per capita, and from 53.7% to 188.5% of Indian GDP per capita. Per capita incomes grew at 6.6% a year.[30] Average wages rose sixfold between 1978 and 2005,[31] while absolute poverty declined from 41% of the population to 5% from 1978 to 2001.[32]

Absolute poverty rates declined from a whopping 41% under Mao to 5%. Living standards are far better than they were under Mao.
In addition, the vast majority of Chinese citizens say capitalism is a better system.

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itt: faux fashies calling faux commies retarded. When will you autistic children wake up?

>social democrats are socialists
yeah, you people are fucking retarded

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Seriously though, are you a trust fund kid or an honest to god business owner

Fuck you, you have my sawhorses.

Which has nothing to do with capitalism but leftist infilitration of academia, movements like feminism and "social justice" thanks to the critical theory by the new left. Nazi Germany was capitalist and did fine.

No. Raised by single father who worked a government job, even.

I'm richer than 97% of the planet, you are likely somewhere in the 92% range.

>no true scotsman
My specific nebulous definition of gubbudism is democratic because I say so! Nevermind that almost no implementations of it are democratic in any fashion.

the virgin theorist vs the chad realpolitik

Just because one system is "better" than another doesn't mean it's good

>be a middle class jew
>never work a real job your entire life
>join a drinking club where you just sit around and bullshit all day long
>one of the main guys is literally insane and insists everything is 'spooks'
>some how become the symbol of the lower class and of the worker even though you never set foot in a factory, married into nobility, and inherited a huge amount of money from your daddy.

i dont have to explain shit. communism has always been make believe fantasy nonsense created by a bunch of degenerates.