This collective is responsible for causing the biggest amount of a asshurt in Jow Forums

>trads want male authority in marriage
No they don't, they want some servant leadership nonsense that resembles authority on the surface, but is really submitting to your wife. They go out of their way to avoid calling for the restoration of male authority as that would mean placing restrictions back onto women, and tradcucks are deathly afraid of upsetting women by mentioning female submission. Worse are the preachers who go out of their way to avoid scripture where God calls for women to shut up and submit to their husbands.

You shouldn't be scared of a random girl #metoo ing you unless... you really did fuck up. You played the game and fucked up... congrats on understanding why mgtow is the optimal solution. Stop insulting mgtow cuz you lack self control

Mgtow is the male equivalent of the cool wine aunt. You think you are empowered, but when you are 60 years old, alone, no wife, no kids, and no friends you will want to blow your brains out.

>don't reproduce, goyim
>keep your money for yourself
>video games and a cool car will totally bring you more satisfaction than a family
>spend that money on the car you always wanted, only 5% APR, goyim

Sage

point taken, but communism, despite what it says on the tin, doesn't actually distribute very well.

but if you marry and make kids you will also probably be alone in the 60s, less than 1% of marriages survive that long and your ex-wife will undermine your children to hate you and you will waste tons of money with alimony and divorce
life is not a fairy tale

Mgtows that have their shit together get pussy anyway. Many women don't really care what your ideology is except that you have your shit together and if they are THOTs that you give them some scraps from your table. If you aren't a mgtow you will submit to the golden vagina and worship it giving yourself the scraps.
Stop assuming mgtows are all virgins. They are just forcing women to invest in themselves which is overall great for everyone else.

People pointing out you are full of shit is not asshurt

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>get qt gf
>get maried
>qt wife divorces
she gets to keep the children, take 50% of what you own and you have to pay child support for the rest of your life while she bangs negroids and becomes a full fledged roastie
>but what if that doesn't happen
if that doesn't happen then she will just acuse you of rape and you will end up in prison

You are projecting female behavior and instincts onto men. Women feel like they have failed if they havent played house and reared children because it is and has always been their primary role.

On the contrary this role is actually completely alien stifling and unnatural to men

mgtow is utterly retarded, so of course the only sane place left on the internet will call it retarded. You won't stop white genocide by accelerating it.

Or you could pick the third option, which is marrying a loyal qt gf.

The real reason Jow Forums hates MGTOW is because it is a persistent reminder that it is the inevitable path that most on this board have to take.

Bet your future happiness and security on a neurotic mental teenager who has more rights than you and can ruin your life with a single phone call, what could possibly go wrong

you fell for the meme you dumb fuck
there is no such thing as a loyal qt gf

>why did the girl I was fornicating with before we were married divorce me

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They're literally male cat ladies and don't pretend otherwise.

Opting to be a permavirgin is not combatting the jew.

>muh happiness
You people sound more and more like the roasties you complain about every day

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Not all of us come from broken families. My parents had a happy marriage, like their parents before them and their parents before them. So should I heed the example of my ancestors or listen to a raving gypsy on the internet?

>less than 1% of marriages survive that long
*citation needed, kike
Nice meme flag

Sage

Or the fourth option; get religiously married, not legally. The ceremony will be exactly the same, she gets a dress, bridesmaids and all the superfluous stuff, but under no circumstances must you sign the legal marriage document presented by the council/state registrar. Its not binding, but you've still made your vows, under God, which is superior to any supposed legal backing.

>be an unwanted male
>not attractive, successful and wealthy enough to attract a good mate
>claim its by choice you're still single

Enjoy beating your dick with your big meaty man hands on friday night while drunk and crying about your pathetic existence. Also after 30 when you're still single, your choices for a social circle is to hang out with younger people (lol) or married couples. You'll most likely retreat back into your bedroom in front of your computer screen, fapping away, drinking, posting hate messages about the ebil womyn.

depends if the subject is actually triggered, sometimes I troll people on the top of their stupid uneducated opinion to make a point

>On the contrary this role is actually completely alien stifling and unnatural to men
Bullshit. Having kids is the most satisfying thing in the world.
Sage

>get religiously married, not legally.
No decent girl or her father would ever go for that

>Marriage Licenses In Light of the Bible
youtube.com/watch?v=1el8Fa5BSgo

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walk the middle path

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never trust gypsies, they are almost as bad as jews

i mean actual trads, not conservatives, trads like people who want Biblical law
i dont give a fuck what people do dude, but mgtow is by defintion saying 'fuck the game' is it not?

Imagine being this much of a betacuck normie emotionally dependent on the approval of other people

>imagine being so beta you can't keep your woman in line

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You sound like an edgy 15 year old virgin "I don;t let society dictate my feelings"

>Having kids is the most satisfying thing in the world.
t. juan

>less than 1%
Where did you find that number?

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That 15 year old virgin was the real you.

The betacuck faggotry youre spouting now is what happens when society breaks a man and turns him into a tool

he does but you sound like a woman, which is worse honestly

t.kike

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"I'm a rebel"

Mooooom can you hurry up on the tendies I'm starving. lol

>was going to marry a childhood best friend turned girlfriend
>she died from a drunk driver running a red light
>got depressed and didn't date for almost a decade
>just focused on career
>eventually try dating again
>meet a lot of women who are ultra feminist, bank account leaches or just want meaningless sex
I just stopped trying. I'll never get what I had so why bother

There is another solution, and your solution is to kill that thot usnews.com/news/us/articles/2018-09-20/official-man-who-shot-at-ex-killed-parents-is-found-dead

>>she died from a drunk driver running a red light

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tradcucks are living in a fantasy world.

mgtow sees the world as it really is.

Thus, there is never ending conflict between the two.

mgtow projects their own failures on other people

friendly reminder that Whites are less than 8% of the worlds population
MGTOW is a part of the problem

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Normies want men to be slaves and for the law to suck as much out of them as possible as the price to be paid for access to a womans hole and will demonize and hate any man who refuses what a surprise

Be celibate and get called a pedo or an incel

Get laid without marriage and youre a villain and a predator

Get married and theyll enslave you and if you try to leave theyll have you divorceraped

Seems to me society is full of greedy assholes

Meh. Mgtows have a short and reasonable list of demands that would bring them back to society and marriage. Too bad about the small contingent of faggot collectivist woman haters among them that detractors use to strawman their whole deal.

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>don't reproduce goyim
>import 3rd world trash to keep your labor market from imploding, goyim
>flush your society down the drain, goyim

>she died from a drunk driver running a red light
Well, there goes my smile

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>muh happiness
>t. chink insectoid
You can be a miserable nigger all you want but I plan on enjoying my time in this shithole

>Be celibate and get called a pedo or an incel
Who cares what degenerates think?
>Get laid without marriage and youre a villain and a predator
because you are
>Get married and theyll enslave you and if you try to leave theyll have you divorceraped
dont marry a feminist

Only a woman would think the purpose of their life is to be happy

this collective is more like causing dickhurt to himself

"their failures"?

Look at the statistics on divorce and female false accusations against men. Go to family court and see what the hell is actually being done to men on a daily basis. It's the failure of society, not just them.

very true. it's all about screwing over the middle class male, for the benifit of everyone else.

MGTOWs dont want neither your scripture nor your female submission. NO marriage. Is it that hard to get?

Is it to make a woman happy? Thats what women and the law think it is.

In b4 muh bible and laugh out loud hilarious pastor Anderson vids

Stories like this are why I will never be religious

the girls here absolute roasties but act like princesses and want a rich guy with a fat wallet and 100% control over the man. they want to be worshiped.

mgtow is the best choise

Nobody is denying the problems. People tend to call mgtows retarded because of their purported solution.

Imagine being so insecure and codependent that your value as a person depends on forcing someone to do something against their will

>dont marry a feminist
hey dipshit. a lot of women become feminists after they are married, once they find out how they can play the system to their benifit.

>imagine being so autistic that you aren’t scared of the government fucking your shit up because a woman wants it to

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>the game
what the fuck do people mean by "the game"? Fuck your games, fight me irl if you got a problem.

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>Nobody is denying the problems. People tend to call mgtows retarded because of their purported solution.

Do you have a better solution?

>Look at the statistics on divorce
Look at the statistics on people who were virgins when they married
>It's the failure of society
Dont marry a worldly woman
>Is it to make a woman happy?
no
>In b4 muh bible and laugh out loud hilarious pastor Anderson vids
"Biblical Marriage Advice" Sermon by Pastor Steven Anderson
youtube.com/watch?v=EXXrlK5hjms
> become feminists after they are married,
I dont beleive that

>Women are evil!
>But also keeping women in line is evil!
I feel sorry for you

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Yes. Act like a man like your ancestors did.

lol just look around you, who do you think is having a stable marriage nowadays? the 1% was a too optimistic guess from my part

>lol just look around you, who do you think is having a stable marriage nowadays?
probably 90% of the people I know

the wicked and evil truly do control the world
and they want to corrupt everyone to be like
them.

that's why mgtow is here, there's no need
to play the game when the game admins
are all fucking faggots.

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What I wanna know is why tradfriends even bother lecturing MGTOWs especially here on what is by general agreement neckbeard central.

Wouldnt their time be better spent pushing reform of marriage laws so more betas are willing to marry?

Freaks like Jow Forums mgtows are surely hopeless cases. On the other hand just making alimony and custody laws a little fairer, just a little! would be enough to get millions of suggestible betas running back to slave away for the glory of roastiedom and civilization generally

based and redpilled

>by general agreement neckbeard central.
By general agreement you mean "what reddit says", right? Would you believe, if I said that I'm not actually an evil skinhead nazi?

Is that what you believe? Women are evil? They aren't. They can be just as self serving as men. And in this society where everyone is being selfish ass holes they are just exhibiting the norms of being abusive. Stop being abusive in your personal life and notice how abusive people will leave you alone. Be abusive and people will have an excuse to be abusive with you in turn. You are living your personal hell on earth thanks to your own behavior

>ushing reform of marriage laws
I dont care about marriage laws because I am not getting a divorce
>so more betas are willing to marry?
betas shouldnt marry
they should fix themselves first

You know, I was typing a reply, but I deleted it because I feel bad and it would hit way too close to home.
Suffice it to say, perhaps mgtow is more of a rationalization and excuse for introverted behavior. Like saying you don't want a gf is the reason you don't have one, instead of anxiety or awkwardness being the real cause

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>That 15 year old virgin was the real you.
This hit me in the feels. Where did everything go wrong?

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You cant just keep women in line, the minute she has enough of your shit she will go running to the daddy government and you will get hit with domestic violence, rape and other shit charges and you get left with a criminal record, the cunt gets some sort of compensation and if you live in a place with common-law marriage laws you are fucked with alimony and other crap.

Have fun.

>I dont beleive that
in other words you are living in fantasy land.

People don't stay virgins until getting married. If you are thinking you will find such a girl, then you are expecting to win the lottery. Sure it's possible, but it's not possible for the majority of the male population.

are you living in an amish ranch or something?

>Yes. Act like a man like your ancestors did.
That will get you thrown in jail. get educated nitwit.

>that would bring them back to society and marriage
Thats where you are wrong kiddo.

Jesus Christ I wasnt actually suggesting you post one, top kek

>our society and government are corrupt
>which is why you should put your future and relationship into the hands of feminists and kike attorneys by having a (((legal marriage)))

I respect Muslims, Amish and yes, (((Orthodox Jews))). They know modern society is hot garbage and keep their distance accordingly. All three groups barely pay lip service to the law and Muslims actively defy it (polygamy, incompatible religious courts etc.)

On the other hand this guy thinks your marriage, the most important relationship in your life needs Schlomos blessing or its illegitimate.

Has Christcuckery gone too far?

>I dont care about marriage laws because I am not getting a divorce
yet another delusional tradcuck -- lamb to slaughter.

>People don't stay virgins until getting married.
most dont but there are plenty that do
> but it's not possible for the majority of the male population.
Well since most men are not remaining virgins then why should they be entitled to one?
Nope
I live in Southern California
I just dont hang out wiht degenerates

I wasn't saying women are evil, I think the opposite. I was saying that because that's how mgtow's act, like women are just malignant parasites.
And you don't have to be abusive to command respect, there are other ways in which to keep people in line. Like say you have a father, and you fuck up, but he doesn't beat you, but you love him and throughout your life he has proven to be a good person who loves you, and all your dad has to say is "I am so disappointed in you" to ruin your day.
Same thing with women, you don't have to beat a girl to make her respect you, and its a little worrying that that was what you knee jerk thought I meant

Kill other whites in the name of christ and nation to make space for pakis? ok what is your address?

The solution is still not to stop breeding. Even if you get totally fucked by the government, your life still has some value, if you managed to bring about another generation. If you just "go your own way", your life literally amounts to nothing.

Perhaps you are right, mgtow is easy mode of staying safe and is valuable to autistic people that don't have any social intelligence. But trying to eliminate easy mode just proves the fact that you are trying to be abusive and don't really care about people staying safe, probably for your own benefit

100% true. tradcucks need to learn this or get burned.

>some of the greatest men in the bible and other historical sources were childless hermits, including Jesus
>"mgtow is a jewish conspiracy"
Jow Forums has been overrun by cuckservative boomer fags like you

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