Is It Ethical to Choose Your Baby’s Eye Color?

>Many prospective parents already use DNA testing to check for potential genetic anomalies that could lead to serious medical conditions. But as technology advances, they may also learn about characteristics that have less bearing on a future child’s health, like eye color.

>the notion that parents might someday select embryos based on what some deem as aesthetic preferences—a future child who is a certain height or good at sports or looks a certain way—raises challenging ethical questions. Perhaps, some ethicists argue, DNA testing will create a society that further values certain types of children more than others.

>Researchers at the company demonstrated how the approach could be used to predict height in a paper published this year in the journal Genetics. Someday, new techniques might allow predicting the likelihood of an embryo’s future academic potential.

>Paula Amato, a fertility doctor at Oregon Health & Science University, and an ethicist, says the general view in the field is that genetic testing to prevent disease is ethically permissible. So is sex selection, although it is more controversial.

>Josephine Johnston is director of research at the Hastings Center, a Garrison, N.Y.-based bioethics research institute. She studies genetic testing in embryos. To her, selecting embryos based on traits like eye color “can seem awfully close to a eugenic mind-set, where we thought we can sort the worthy and fit from the unworthy and unfit.”...Parenting often comes with “the understandable desire to give your child advantages,” like height, or musical talent, she says. Yet people are part of a society that fights prejudice. “These kinds of decisions can feed into the discrimination, not fight against it,” she says.

thoughts Jow Forums?

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>"Perhaps, some ethicists argue, DNA testing will create a society that further values certain types of children more than others."

Wait, so being able to have your kid have blue eyes, your own genetics be damned, would someone make it more "valuable"? That's literally the opposite of common sense

No. Shiteyes need to die out.

bump

>tfw blue eyes
who else here /feelsgood/

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6ft1,blue eyes and blond hair here. Feels amazing

I have blue eyes and I want my kids to have blue eyes, but my wife is half-Asian. tfw gonna have to find a concubine or something

[HAIR]– Polemon, Physiognomonica, 8.11

"hê de xanthê kai hupoleukos, hopoia Skuthôn, skaiotêta dêloi êgoun kakotêta kai agriotêta"

Blond and whitish hair, like that of Scythians, signifies stupidity, evilness, and savageness

[SKIN] – Aritotles et Corpus Aristotelicum, Physiognomonica, 812a, 13

"Hoi agan melanes deiloi: anapheretai epi tous Ai-
guptious, Aithiopas. hoi de leukoi agan deiloi: anapheretai epi tas gunaikas"

Very dark men are cowards: it is said of Egyptians and Ethiopians. White men are cowards: it is said of women.

Adamantius, Physiognomica, II, 37.10
Very fair and whitish hair, like that of Scythians and Celts, [signifies] ignorance, dimness and savageness

"Spectandum nigris oculis, nigroque capillo" which Hesiod admires in his Alcmena, the black eyes and black hair of the greek woman which Hesiod admires.

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>huemonkey talking shit

Better than memeflag.

do you think that's an insult? oh no, I picked a thing from a dropdown menu
you will always be a huemonkey!

blue but rather have brown eyes

brazil is whiter then eu tho

You subhuman baboon. You literal nigger.

How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?

You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.

I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.

Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.

You nigger.

You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.

You are the Baltimore of South America.

Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.

Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.

The first genetically engineered babies will be Bogdanoff babies.

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If everyone could choose what their baby looked like, EVERYONE would choose features that are closer to blond/blue eyes/white skin because its objectively the most beautiful across every culture and society in history.

blue eyes are less likely to suffer from severe and crippling autism so yes op its ethical.

Do you think that you insulting me gonna prove the contrary? Do you think that you insult is a argument?

everyone i know with blue eyes has shit vision and needs glasses

5ft8, green eyes and dirty blond hair. So fucking close.......

You subhuman american. You literal snow-nigger.

How dare you speak, you 56% swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?

You are human trash, Whit*ide Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that EUA can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the EUA wallmart you came out of, you literal orangutan.

I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.

Take your black 56% hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.

You nigger 56%.

You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.

You are the Baltimore of EUA.

Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, american, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. American cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an american "man" provided for a family.

Die, Diego "white american" 56%. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.

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Yes it is
Poo eyes are gross tbqh

I have brown hair and eyes and my gf is Blonde with blue eyes and we're trying for a baby as we speak.
How mad are you Jow Forums?

>some ethicists argue, DNA testing will create a society that further values certain types of children more than others.
Our current society does this.

do you think "memeflag" is an argument?

Honestly I am against genetic modifications for humans in a cosmetic or enhancement sense. It's a dangerous road to tread and we can do immense damage if we don't secure a large amount of human samples to save for reference. Thing about screwing with the genetic code is it goes out into the population and spreads very fast.
We should only tinker with these things to rid ourselves of genetic diseases. Those people's lives were going to suck anyways, may as well try to fix them, but restrict their ability to reproduce for the first few iterations so the effects can be studied.
This also has the added benefit of robbing a lot of Jews of their right to reproduce.

Do you think "huemonkey" is a argument?

Hahaha, tfw gene editting will lead to nogs having white children.

The future is bright.

Pale and creepy eyes are the least attractive. The most attractive are dark hair and dark eyes with white skin.

Knowing how obsessed with ass and buttholes you Brazilians are I'm not surprised you like brown eyes.

It's not, but memeflags should be given as much shit as possible. It was a mistake from the get go.

Better be obessed with ass and buttholes than junk food and black dicks.

>have one of the 0% eye colors
>know dad wasn't cucked thanks to me and half sister sharing the same ear deformity

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why do you care?
No, I'm just calling you what you are: a nigger

god this is depressing.
we could lose the global tech race because we weren't allowed to call blacks low iq.
fuck this gay earth.

no
its naive
its too trusting in technology, the people who put it out, and the people who regulate its safety. people who cant be trusted.

its a trojan horse, you take your ideal gmo baby and what the establishment gets out of it is whastever gene engineering they wanted to stick in on the fly.

protip: bt corn re-engineers the dna of your gut bacteria which in turn changes your own dna. i dont think this is an accidental mechanism. if it doesnt say non gmo or organic on the box, guess what, 80% chance youre eating bt corn that was made in a lab not through selective breeding

Guys.
my mom has blue eyes and my dad has brown eyes...I have green eyes...wtf!!!!

what about your grandparents? my brother, his wife, and both of our parents have brown eyes and his daughter has blue eyes. Got it from my grandfather I think. He definitely wasn't cucked because she looks exactly like him.

literally who cares

colored contact lens exist y'know

Do you think "nigger" is a argument?

I'm against all genetic modification and what isn't stopping anyone from choosing their children's skin color, their hair color etc in the future?

JUST STOP THIS MADNESS.

im not sure bog dna is compatible with baseline human

I find it hilarious how blacks and poos despise white people, yet if they were given the chance to genetically alter their offspring, you can bet they'd all have blonde hair, blue eyes, white skin, and white features.

Really jiggles the joggles.

>If everyone could choose what their baby looked like, EVERYONE would choose features that are closer to blond/blue eyes/white skin because its objectively the most beautiful across every culture and society in history.

fake counterfeit whites walking the street. is that what you want?

Literally GATTACA

i willl never accept a counterfeit caucasian as legit. you either have the ancestry and epigenetics to back up your whiteness or fuck off youre not white

>Snow flake parents choose wall eyed baby
>Grow up as a freak because you parents are vain
It's just like parents choosing shity, "unique" names but 100x worse.

>shiteyes need to die out

Kek, colored eyes are a mutation dumb ass.

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I don't mean to single you out in particular but this info graph is incorrect, and I wish people would stop posting it. My mother has brown eyes and so do both her parents. My father has blue eyes and only his father has blue eyes, his mother has brown eyes. My brother and I both were blessed with green eyes. recessive genes can still be transferred and re-activated if that is the proper term.

Brown eyes master race here.

Blue eyes are a genetic mutation which causes more macular degeneration and lets too much light in the eye making you shitter at all sports.

Mutant eyes btfo, no benefits only drawbacks.

That picture does not seem valid in my experience, my both parents have brown eyes and me and my sister have both clear blue eyes, my second sister have brown ones.

I know too many who have same case for change to this have only 6,3%

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Kek.

Eye color is actually a lot mroe complicated than the OP image.. It depends on the couples parents and more too

Your mom fucked a blue eyed bull

>no benefits only drawbacks
Higher SMV isn't a benefit?

shitty graphic. blue is recessive. it is no 50-50 if you mix blue with brown. also you need to see the eyes of the grandparents.

>tfw brown eyes black hair
why even live?

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I remember having this exact conversation with my professor in a Bioethics class. We were discussing whether or not it was ethical to create "designer babies". I said that it's ethical because if we don't, China will. He asked if something becomes ethical just because someone else does it. Yes? Aren't ethics always decided by the morals of the day? Slavery used to be okay because everyone did it.

Contemporary ethics don't apply to genetic engineering. It WILL be widespread in the future which means that it will be seen as morally permissible.

That's must be it. Can always count on murican quality posting.

Dad's chromosomes:
Blue eyes allele - Brown, blue
Green eyes allele - at least one Green

Overall: Brown

(if blue eyes allele has at least one brown in then eyes are brown. if no brown gene but has one or more green gene at green allele then green, else eyes are blue.)

Mother's chromosomes:
Blue eyes allele - blue, blue
Green eyes allele - no functional Green gene

Overall: Blue

Alleles inherited from father/mother respectively
F - Blue, Green
M - Blue, Null

Overall you are blue blue and Green, null.

Your children have a 50% chance to inherit ONLY blue eyes gene and 50% to inherit green eyes gene from you (excluding your partner's eyes).

very unethical. havent you fags read THE SNEETCHES by Dr. Suess?

the only people who win is the rich and the doctors in this scenario since the media and rich can dictate trends and say "only people with the eye color Hamlindigo Blue are master race, go bunch the Nazi Green eyed fags"

This is unironically the plot of Gattaca

Glad you agree, cuckson

> shitter at sports
but
> better looking and more fit for natural selection

Good fucking game

Figures the guy from the country known for being sex-crazed brings up black genitalia. Faggot, no one cares about your false Jow Forums-inspired delusions, haven't you got some male bundas to go gawk at?

>wsj.com/articles/is-it-ethical-to-choose-your-babys-eye-color-1538487936

jews will look whiter in the future becoming the new aryan race

Based on a good Christians outlook this would be eugenics, so no it is not ethical. you are basically aborting the babies you don't want.

you should choose good children based off of who you have them with.

This, and great grandparents as well. My previous post confirms different eye colors can re appear after multiple generations even if the grandparents have different eye colors. Grandparents on my moms side both have brown eyes, on my dads side my grandfather has blue eyes and grandmother has brown eyes. I have green eyes.

You shouldn't mesh with this Khan

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Imagine being shorter than 6 feet 6 inches kek

When a brazilian demonstrate something that goes against my ideas i start to talk about brazilian stereotypes and asses.
Can you tell me ten famous scientists with blonde hair and blue eyes, snowbunny?

Except they all got BTFO and cucked by White men.

Are these 2k year old writings of asshurt shitskins? 2,000 year old Reddit/Twitter?

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*breathes in*
HAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA

Turks are "white men"?
>Are these 2k year old writings of asshurt shitskins? 2,000 year old Reddit/Twitter?
What?

genetic modification will make anime real by making us all pink haired androgynous whitebois

our familiy is 100% blue. i hope it stays so. check your rhesus factor too. i guess negative is the true arian bloodline and blue eyes

Pale eyes is hot as fuck you degenerate fucking leaf.

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genetic engineering is unethical you fucking moron. go search a blueeyed wife and pray that her genes are stronger than yours you faggot

Mexican here with green eyes. Thank you Juan for your conquistador genes senpai.

>muh science is bad me like pretty rocks and caves

we need to nuke italy

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>Find well-known fair-featured scientists!
>t. Gullible person from country with ZERO Nobel laureates

How about Carl Linnaeus you fag?

Yes on women, on men it just looks beta and cuckish.

Linnaeus? Sure...

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A-are grey eyes okay?

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same

>muh science can modify life without negative effects because we are god allready
everyone of you science worship mongrels that believe kike scientists when they say they have cracked the dna should hang. low iq faggots

advances in technologies is the main reason you don't die before the age of 40 idiot

there's no negative effects to science, we don't live in one of your animes

wow you are really that dumb. you know what an average is? most people died at birth or in war. do your math and stop spaming now your nonsense

>Tycho Brahe
>Retzius
>Linus Torvalds
>Emil Christian Hansen
>Motherfucking EULER

>Tycho Brahe
Red
>Retzius
Brown
>Linus Torvalds
Light brown
>Emil Christian Hansen
No colored image of the hair
>Motherfucking EULER
Only image of hair is Grey.

>colored eyes are a mutation dumb ass

so are brown
thats how evaluation works dickhead

>Tycho Brahe
Reddish-blond according to some sources.
Fix'd

>mum has brown eyes
>dad had blue eyes
>me and my brother both have green eyes

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>has never seen a model

Duh faggot it originates with white people

You have blue eyes but you'd rather have brown eyes?
Why? I'm the opposite. Fuck genetic RNG. Blue eyes are way more aesthetic.

OFFICIAL WHITE EYE COLORS:

Green
Blue
Grey/Silver
Amber/Gold/Orange
Light Brown
Every other color mixture

NOT WHITE:

Literally just medium brown and darker

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>Have brown eyes so less maculat degeneration and less light exposure
>Fuck up my eyesight from computer screens amyway
fml