Is it going to keep going up?

no

look at median income, median income hasnt risen since 2000. that is 16 years ago, only the top 1% have increased in wealth

18 years ago*

I hope so. The crash those greedy Jews in the Federal Reserve and World Banks will cause will be absolutely devastating. Goodbye society, hello collapse.
And to quote the BBC "that's a good thing."

For as long as all indicators look as good as they do now.
The only dark side now is the high debt, which isn't really a bad point given everything is fine and everyone is able to pay back the debt.

this
load up on 'wealth' they can steal from a more productive society before they crash it and force the nwo

The stock market is highly reactive to news, in late 2016 was when we knew Trump won the election so the economy reacted towards it.

AKA "I want to give Trump credit for Obama's economy that was essentially left unchanged until early 2018"

>implying the stock market means jack shit to the average wage cuck

New Normal!

It does if they have a 401k.

It means jack shit for people looking to start new families, i.e. the people needed for long term economic growth. If nobody is fucking or buying houses because their wages are stagnated and inflation is high then it doesn't matter that they'll get money when they turn 65.

Obviously it can't go down, there are spiky things down there. Up up UP!

Only thing I give a shit about is wages as a % of GDP, that's it.

It's a better measure of economy then median income. Median income measures in terms of income distribution on top of economy, not economy alone.

I hereby summon the obamaleaf to defend this.

Nah. It is an accurate measure of investor confidence in the economy but it does not translate to economoc growth for the entire population.

Thank god for the policies obama implemented on november 8 2016

If you look at markets in the past prior to higher inflationary periods, historically equity markets are highly overvalued. What is in the cards ? Most certainly inflation. Hyper inflation ? I wouldn't rule it out.

>But it was Trumps fault whenever there was a temporary downturn
we know

No, after midterms when Republicans gain seats in the senate but lose the house majority, and democrats clog up Trump's presidency permanently with hundreds of ridiculous investigations (the house has this authority) the market will crash hard.

DOW will always go up. Whenever there is a crash they kick the losers out of the index and replace them with rising stars.

Kind of like "I want to blame Trump when illegal children are locked in cages even though Obama did it too and I didn't give a fuck then."

i need a better answer than that

>muh 1%
shut up commie faggot

>a poorfag shaming others for calling out anarchic capitalist

>anarchic capitalist
What? The US is a quasi socialist state. But you wouldn't know that, memeflag.

>a
>fucking
>burger

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The economy will crash within the next 4 years. It's nothing that is necessarily Trumps fault, but he could have chosen the right path.

The problem is our spending is out of control and we are spending even more now (!) under Trump. We are in a bubble and we've been in one for a while now. 2008 was just the housing market crashing and frankly is just the tip of the ice berg.

If the economy is so great right now have ask your self or your friends why our debt is the highest its ever been. There are no savings and no maxing out of retirement funds because its all a sham. Those are not signs of an economy doing "good" those are signs of a failing economy that is being propped up.

Wages continue to be stagnant as inflation and cost of living continues to rise (among record high debt). It's over... and you can blame the federal reserve and the previous (((politicians))). Stagflation incoming.

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stock market is based on future results. obviously it should start on 11/8 for Trump.

Lower corporate tax increase corporate profit So what!

Good indicator of Bezos economy

It's a good indicator of how my 401k is doing, that's all I care about.

Your 401k means shit when the economy dumps. Look at other indicators: stagnant wages and record high debt. Good luck in the near future; I hope your 401k is worth anything.

(((the fed))) is already raising interest rates

>Will it last 6 years
Maybe, but most likely no. It is all set and ready to fall to pieces. Just need a catalyst to start the ball and cause some people to try and grab their money.

By the end of it the rich will be across the border with most if not all of their money and you will be lucky to get 10-20% back.

the bear is just around the corner

I really wonder how this is going to affect crypto, it will be the first time we see this

>the middle class profits mostly from stock
the brainlet

I dont follow its value but if I had to risk I would say crypto rises after a crash (with an initial drop as well) given how dependent its value is from the drug trade.
Drugs flourish in times of economic depression.

it's not 2013 anymore though, drugs are just a really tiny part of the trade today. it's mostly just speculation now. I don't remember the % even

regardless it is going to be interesting to see, if stock faggots sell at the top and then push into crypto and cause a lot of strange shit happening there.

And now Jow Forums you will have to choose:
Your beloved God Emporer and Israel
or the Happening man Ron Paul.
Which will you choose?
Whose loyatly do you swear to?
Trump, the Fed, and Israel?
Or Ron Paul.

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I think crypto will be used to traffic money abroad

Not anymore.
Not only has it been grosely inflated for a number of reasons beyond even the performance of the companies themselves, a large obvious chunk has been stock buybacks due to QE and low interest rates.

Stock buybacks are not; investment, mergers/aquisitions, dividend distribution and so on, this market is artificially inflated by every measure we still haven't actually addressed the underlying cracks in the world economy.

Not only that but the world failed to deleverage like most people had hoped. Both private and public debt. This is all a game and prelude to war.

>only counting obamas second term

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Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.

t. economist

> abnormal environment
> permament plateu
.t poor economist*

>This is all a game and prelude to war.
kinda spooky but yeah this can happen.

all the tradewars too and protectionism... look what has happened each fucking time in history with that shit too lol

^This
There will be a massive re-correction of the market soon. That, plus the massive debt that the average person holds would be devastating.

crash in mid 2022 buy the dip screencap this

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Learn some history, son. That shit went right over your head.

until they arent

>all fine and everyone is able to pay back the debt
or until the debt is called in

Sure. Why not?

Money system
youtu.be/EC0G7pY4wRE

youtu.be/wgazsNiu3BA

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_cycle

Spending is the only way to pay off debt, you have to create more debt to continue the retarded kike system. It's all rigged. Look at the links above it explains everything.

>>all fine and everyone is able to pay back the debt
>or until the debt is called in
They wont do that, besides, the banks never actually take depots or loan real dollars.
The bank takes your deposit and creates a balance sheet with what it owes you.
They also don't loan, they purchase a security from you for an amount then the money is created in an account. It's never transferred from anywhere to anywhere.

I love you too gorgeous.
It's weird as an ancap because it's like "we need to free the economy, get rid of all this debt, reset things a bit and take back some of our freedoms" but then it's also like "legit Mao Zedong 2.0 has just been elected to lead the most powerful communist country left for life and they are clearly escalating things over the next 10 years to the point where war will be inevitable as the US is pushed out of the first and 2nd island chains so I kinda hope Trump goes militaristic as fuck in response or else we get to deal with hegemonic Communism before we've reached any of these other goals" and who's going to deal with that? The EU? lmao

true, but there is the internet now. and much leas reason for nation states to openly war with one another.

i think the violence will originate from:
1) economic crash
2) people live very far from food production, everything is dependent on costly infrastructure and huge amounts of fossil fuels and energy
3) the food and gas stop coming/become greatly restricted because money evaporated
4) people fight amonst each other and government crackdowns get very severe

this is my guess for america at least. rural areas will fare better than cities i imagine. the rural parts of europe will also be good because yall actually have mature/sensible agriculture systems.

we on the other hand grow corn and basedbeans and have huge population centers very far from arable land.

> there is the internet now. and much leas reason for nation states to openly war with one another.
Except China doesn't have a real open internet and they have plenty of reasons to start shit. Like of course we're not going to go to war with Russia or Europe again, Islam seems inevitable, China seems inevitable and Russia has some reasons like demographics and oil but beyond that I'd agree with ya for sure.

So what you're saying is that banks create money from nothing and then ask you for more money?

You doom and gloom faggots should learn something from OP's chart. 2001/2002 was the bubble popping and 9/11. 2008/2009 was the housing bubble crashing and the deepest recession since the Great depression.

If you're not a retard, have a decent education/job, and can save around 25%, you do two things: dollar cost average 10% of the 25%, and use the remaining 15% to sit on a cash position while the market is within 10% of it's highs. When it dips 20% during a correction start moving cash back into the market.
Wait 5 years for recovery (since you're not a retard/democrat/dependent on welfare/unemployment), and you're rolling.

I won't be a giving a fuck during the next correction thanks to the two previous big recessions.

They can't they went into real estate in 2008 and the stock market is all goy money. Nothing will make them sell their real estate.

If he finds a way to offset the consequences of quantitative easing, sure.

>Nothing will make them sell their real estate.
nothing short of a population crash

chinas power comes from trade. war disrupts trade.

i do think the fight for africa will be real though. a lot of undeveloped resources in africa.

> chinas power comes from trade. war disrupts trade.
That's the thing though, they don't control their major shipping lanes and they want to, they also have weird aspirations both communistic and ancient to become a super power independent of US control.

Everytime you hear they've built a new island in the South china sea, or news helicopters or naval vessels have been warned off around the Spratly Islands or the Chinese navy has surrounded and cut off the Ayungin Shoal, then you've got examples of them probing these island chains they want to control.

War is weird because it can break out due to misconceptions about deterrance and literal accidents or misunderstandings. But there is a reason China is building up its navy, missile program, artificial islands and is bullying Taiwan and fucking with other people's islands, it's sort of like lebenstraum but more like trading room.

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If you think it's a matter of "spending" vs "not spending" then you are fucking ignorant and need to just stop talking. Far more important is *what* is being spent on.

>Chinas power comes from trade.
This is true, But if you also look at their lending and deals like with Pakistan and with other of its neighboring countries you can see that they really crave land! They are going to make their moves in the next decade Laos, Vietnam, Cambodia are all on the chopping block first. I don't think the US will be strong enough to fight them by then.

Pretty sure emperor trump will live longer than that.

>The bear will leave its cave forever.